Russia Invades Ukraine. Again by captaincrunch

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

SECOND- a never-ending fount of disinfo.

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Tuesday, June 13, 2023 8:42 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND- a never-ending fount of disinfo.

Is this the one that made you mad?

Reuters saw at least three dead Russian soldiers lying in the street, including one whose fly-blown body lay by an abandoned Russian military vehicle. Artem, a member of a Ukrainian territorial defence unit, who gave no surname said the advancing Ukrainian troops had watched from a drone as Russians initially tried to evacuate their comrade, only to dump him where he lay and flee.

It was the first independent confirmation of Ukraine's advance in the area, roughly 90 km southwest of the city of Donetsk . . . No surprise that Russians leave Russians behind to die. They have been abandoning tens of millions of Russians to death since before the Great Patriotic War. Such a fine bunch of people. So loyal, trustworthy, and caring.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ceding-ground-ukraine-russia-kill
s-civilians-apartment-block-strike-2023-06-13/

Or was it this one, Signym?

Social media video footage circulated on June 12 reportedly shows Russian barrier troops – specialized units that threaten to shoot their own retreating personnel or compel offensives – shooting Russian forces that abandoned their positions somewhere in Ukraine.[54] ISW is unable to confirm whether the footage is authentic at this time. The United Kingdom Ministry of Defense reported in November 2022 that Russian forces in Ukraine probably started deploying “barrier troops” and “blocking units” to Ukraine and that Russian generals likely want their subordinate commanders to shoot deserters, including possibly authorizing personnel kill their own deserting servicemen.[55]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-12-2023

It is completely predictable that Russians would be POOR compared to EU citizens since Russians can't trust other Russians to not kill them when convenient. To grow wealthy requires citizens to trust that fellow citizens won't murder them.

Unlike the US in all wars of the 20th and 21st centuries, Russia does NOT keep a list of every soldier who dies because Russia does NOT give a damn how many millions of its citizens die. Back in 1990, Russia had killed 62 million of its own citizens as proof Russia does NOT care who dies.

From the book Lethal Politics: Soviet Genocide and Mass Murder since 1917 by R. J. Rummel
Download the free book from https://libgen.unblockit.click/search.php?req=R.+J.+Rummel
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/B073RQ94KF/

1 61,911,000 Victims: Utopianism Empowered, 1917-1987

2 3,284,000 Victims: The Civil War Period, 1917-1922

3 2,200,000 Victims: The NEP Period 1923-1928

4 11,440,000 Victims: The Collectivization Period, 1929-1935

5 4,345,000 Victims: The Great Terror Period 1936-1938

6 5,104,000 Victims: Pre-World War II Period 1939-June 1941

7 13,053,000 Victims: World War II Period, June 1941-1945

8 15,613,000 Victims: Postwar and Stalin’s Twilight Period, 1945-1953

9 6,872,000 Victims: Post-Stalin Period, 1954-1987

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Tuesday, June 13, 2023 9:10 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Huh, which one of your innumerable lies should I focus on?
Troll.

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Wednesday, June 14, 2023 6:15 AM

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Putin discussed the progress of the Ukrainian counteroffensive and signaled that he believes Russia can outlast Western military support for Ukraine. Putin stated that Russian objectives have not fundamentally changed, reiterating boilerplate rhetoric and false narratives accusing Ukraine and NATO of initiating the war.[10] Putin added that the West can push Ukraine into negotiations with Russia by stopping the supplies of military aid to Ukraine.[11] Putin noted that Ukrainian forces launched a ”massive” counteroffensive on June 4 and noted that Ukrainian forces attacked in southwestern Donetsk and Zaporizhia oblasts, claiming they suffered significant losses. Putin claimed that Ukraine has lost 160 tanks and claimed that 30 percent of Ukraine’s casualties are killed in action, whereas Russian forces have lost only 54 tanks. Putin may be attempting to systematically amplify and misrepresent Ukrainian losses of Western military equipment to portray Ukraine’s counteroffensive as failed and discourage the West from continuing to support Ukraine. Former Russian officer and ardent ultranationalist Igor Girkin observed that Putin’s comments indicate that the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) continues to misinform him about the true situation on the battlefield.[12]

Putin indicated that he is unwilling to announce a second wave of mobilization or declare martial law, despite maintaining his maximalist objectives in Ukraine. Putin acknowledged that some Russian “public figures” are discussing the urgent need for mobilization but noted that there “is currently no need today” for mobilization. Putin boasted about Russian contract service recruitment efforts using rhetoric consistent with ISW’s previous assessments that Putin is disinterested in announcing another mobilization wave and is instead prioritizing volunteer recruitment.[13] Putin also downplayed milbloggers’ concern over the Kremlin’s decision to not declare full-scale martial law throughout Russia, stating that Russia needs to expand its law enforcement rather than declare martial law. ISW continues to assess that Putin is a risk-averse actor who is hesitant to upset Russian society by ordering another mobilization wave or establishing martial law throughout Russia, indicating that Putin has not yet decided to fully commit to fighting a total war. Putin’s statements likely aim to reassure his constituencies that he does not intend to expand the “special military operation” further.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-13-2023

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Wednesday, June 14, 2023 6:56 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Huh, which one of your innumerable lies should I focus on?
Troll.

Russians murdering ten million Russians is the only reason Russia is poor compared to the EU. Russia denies it all, denies that the best Russians emigrated, leaving murderers to run the country. Instead, Russia has an alternate explanation: the EU, UK, and US made Russia poor. By denying the truth of its murder rampages, including the ongoing one in Ukraine, Russia can feel good knowing that the dead won't crawl out of the grave and beseech living Russians to atone for murder.

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Wednesday, June 14, 2023 7:21 AM

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Vladimir Putin's full-scale invasion of Ukraine has spurred NATO members to plan in detail what has been unthinkable since the end of the Cold War — a direct conflict with Russia.

However, ahead of the bloc's summit in Vilnius, Lithuania, starting on July 11 when countering Russia will be top of the agenda, Sir Richard Shirreff, the former Deputy Supreme Allied Commander Europe, said NATO was not ready for a war with Moscow.

"It needs a real kick up the backside," he told Newsweek, as he took aim at dwindling military budgets across alliance members, although there are exceptions, such as Poland.

"There is a massive war going on in Eastern Europe. It's a land war and it's an air war, and so you need to invest in air and land, and that hasn't been done," Shirreff said. "Last year at its Madrid summit, (Alliance Secretary General) Jens Stoltenberg announced that NATO would ramp up its very high readiness forces to 300,000 — that simply hasn't happened."

The former British general said that the U.K. Army was an example of such cuts across the bloc being run down to a "ludicrous size" as he believed that the defense establishment had believed that China, not Russia, was the major long-term threat.

"Geography matters here and Russia is the wolf nearest the sledge," said Shirreff, the managing partner at the consultancy Strategia Worldwide. He believed there has been a "failure of deterrence" by the alliance, which missed an opportunity to build up capability after Putin seized Crimea in 2014.

"Am I confident that NATO will really be able to generate conventional forces ready for a conventional war with Russia? No, I'm not."

https://www.newsweek.com/nato-ukraine-russia-war-footing-1806011

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Wednesday, June 14, 2023 7:51 AM

Fuck NATO.

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

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"Blocking units," sometimes called "barrier troops," are tasked with enforcing Russian military discipline, which includes preventing soldiers from running away from battle.

Asked about barrier troops in a previous story on the drone footage, Jason Jay Smart, a political adviser on post-Soviet and international politics, told Newsweek that "Russians shooting their own troops has a long tradition in Russian military history, and it has been commonplace throughout this war."

He added, "This incident, showing a total lack of concern or interest in preserving human life, is the epitome of how the Russian military thinks and behaves."

https://www.newsweek.com/russian-soldiers-admit-military-shooting-its-
own-members-1806729

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Wednesday, June 14, 2023 3:22 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Huh, which one of your innumerable lies should I focus on?
Troll.

SEVIND: Russians murdering ten million Russians is the only reason Russia is poor compared to the EU.

Oh, I thought it was bc Russia kept threatening with nukes and was JUST LIKE NORTH KOREA. (Another stupid idea!) At least that's what you'd been yammering about for some 20+ posts.

You see? That's why I don't take anything you post seriously. All I have to do is wait a few posts and you'll undercut YOURSELF!
Troll!

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Wednesday, June 14, 2023 6:57 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Huh, which one of your innumerable lies should I focus on?
Troll.

SEVIND: Russians murdering ten million Russians is the only reason Russia is poor compared to the EU.

Oh, I thought it was bc Russia kept threatening with nukes and was JUST LIKE NORTH KOREA. (Another stupid idea!) At least that's what you'd been yammering about for some 20+ posts.

You see? That's why I don't take anything you post seriously. All I have to do is wait a few posts and you'll undercut YOURSELF!
Troll!

Signym, Russia and North Korea both build nukes so that nobody outside the country can make those countries behave decently. Russia and North Korea also killed their own people by the millions so that nobody inside those countries can make those countries behave decently. What is the result? No decent person outside those countries trusts those countries. That lack of trust is why both countries are poor. Russia is less poor because it does have cheap oil and natural gas to export, but North Korea does not have that good fortune.

Signym, compare Russia's and Canada's economy: https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/russia/canada

Russia does poorly because nobody decent trusts Russia. But Canada does well. You could do the same comparison between North Korea and South Korea. When was the last time you saw a product from North Korea in a store? Meanwhile, South Korean products cruise down the streets all over the world and can be found in kitchens and living rooms everywhere.

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Wednesday, June 14, 2023 7:32 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Huh, which one of your innumerable lies should I focus on?
Troll.

SEVIND: Russians murdering ten million Russians is the only reason Russia is poor compared to the EU.

Oh, I thought it was bc Russia kept threatening with nukes and was JUST LIKE NORTH KOREA. (Another stupid idea!) At least that's what you'd been yammering about for some 20+ posts.

You see? That's why I don't take anything you post seriously. All I have to do is wait a few posts and you'll undercut YOURSELF!
Troll!

Best you leave the thinking to the adults comrade.

T

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Wednesday, June 14, 2023 9:19 PM

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Quote:
SIGNY:
Huh, which one of your innumerable lies should I focus on?
Troll.

SECOND: Russians murdering ten million Russians is the only reason Russia is poor compared to the EU.

SIGNY: Oh, I thought it was bc Russia kept threatening with nukes and was JUST LIKE NORTH KOREA. (Another stupid idea!) At least that's what you'd been yammering about for some 20+ posts.
You see? That's why I don't take anything you post seriously. All I have to do is wait a few posts and you'll undercut YOURSELF!
Troll!

THUGR: Best you leave the thinking to the adults comrade.

How would you know, son?

Your reply is a perfect example of STUPID THUGR-TROLL. It's obvious you can't demonstrate that I'm wrong so you resort to

childish name-calling (comrade), which might sting if it were even a tiny bit true, but it's not, And

dumb insults (implying that I can't think when clearly it's your brain that can't get in gear)

Seriously, son. As the saying goes: "Better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt"

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Thursday, June 15, 2023 7:18 AM

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Russian forces reportedly doubled the trained dolphins defending the Russian naval base in Sevastopol in occupied Crimea. Online news outlet Naval News reported on June 14 that Russian forces have likely increased the number of dolphins defending the naval base from about three to four to about six to seven and will likely increase their patrol frequency.[54]

The Kremlin continues efforts to incentivize foreigners to serve in the Russian military. The Russian State Duma adopted the second reading of a bill aimed at simplifying the process of issuing residence permits to foreign highly skilled workers who signed contracts with the Russian military since the start of the war in February 2022.[48] The law will only apply to highly skilled workers who have already worked in Russia in their specialties for a minimum of two years.[49] ISW has previously reported on Russian legislation aimed at incentivizing military service, which now appears to be extending to incorporate foreigners living in Russia.[50]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-14-2023

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Thursday, June 15, 2023 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Huh, which one of your innumerable lies should I focus on?
Troll.

SEVIND: Russians murdering ten million Russians is the only reason Russia is poor compared to the EU.

Oh, I thought it was bc Russia kept threatening with nukes and was JUST LIKE NORTH KOREA. (Another stupid idea!) At least that's what you'd been yammering about for some 20+ posts.

You see? That's why I don't take anything you post seriously. All I have to do is wait a few posts and you'll undercut YOURSELF!
Troll!

Best you leave the thinking to the adults comrade.

T

T

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Thursday, June 15, 2023 12:19 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Huh, which one of your innumerable lies should I focus on?
Troll.

SECOND: Russians murdering ten million Russians is the only reason Russia is poor compared to the EU.

SIGNY: Oh, I thought it was bc Russia kept threatening with nukes and was JUST LIKE NORTH KOREA. (Another stupid idea!) At least that's what you'd been yammering about for some 20+ posts.
You see? That's why I don't take anything you post seriously. All I have to do is wait a few posts and you'll undercut YOURSELF!
Troll!

SECOND: Signym, the USA build nukes so that nobody outside the country can make the USA behave decently. The USA also brainwashed their own people and killed foreigners by the millions so that nobody inside those countries can make those countries behave decently. What is the result? No decent person trusts the USA. That rapaciousness is why the USA elites are rich.

Fixed it for you.
Once other nations realize that the USA is no longer the only military and financial power and they stop cowering in fear, USA living standard (for the typical person) will decline even faster than it has been for the past 30 years.

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Thursday, June 15, 2023 6:42 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
No decent person trusts the USA. That rapaciousness is why the USA elites are rich.
Fixed it for you.
Once other nations realize that the USA is no longer the only military and financial power and they stop cowering in fear, USA living standard (for the typical person) will decline even faster than it has been for the past 30 years.

Do you read too much Russian propaganda, Signym? When I was 10 years old, 61 years ago, the same complaints you are making were being made by angry poor white trash in East Texas. The white trash kept complaining and eventually switched to Trump, but it did no good because those people are no better at understanding where wealth comes from now than they were 61 years ago. That is the reason why Median wealth per US adult is on the low side now as it was back then:

List of Countries by Median wealth per adult, in US dollars
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_per_adult

Iceland $375,735
Luxembourg $350,271
Australia $273,903
Belgium $267,887
New Zealand $231,257
Hong Kong $202,376
Denmark $171,175
Switzerland $168,084
Canada $151,248
Netherlands $142,994
United Kingdom $141,552
France $139,169
Norway $132,482
Japan $119,999
Taiwan $113,938
Italy $112,138
Spain $104,163
Qatar $100,014
Malta $97,524
Sweden $95,051
United States $93,271
South Korea $93,141
Singapore $93,133

Russia $6,919

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Thursday, June 15, 2023 11:44 PM

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When I was 10 years old, 61 years ago

You were 10 years old 15 years ago. Your mom hates you.

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Friday, June 16, 2023 7:09 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
When I was 10 years old, 61 years ago

You were 10 years old 15 years ago. Your mom hates you.

I am old enough to remember Civil Defense Bomb Shelters. The expectation was that the Russians would nuke the US, which is why the US built bomb shelters and spent more than $10 trillion on its own nukes to dissuade Russia from doing what it continually threatened to do once Russia built its very first nukes.

Russia keeps making the same old threats to nuke the US, but the US has taken a calm attitude toward Russia. Instead of fearfully building more nukes as a threat to potentially retaliate against Russia, the US is methodically sending weapons to Ukraine to actually retaliate against Russia. Supplying weapons to Ukraine is far cheaper for the US than spending another $10 trillion on building even more nukes targeting Russia. And, unlike the US nukes, these weapons kill Russians right now, almost magically turning bad Russians into dead Russians without the collateral damage of killing Russian children like a nuking Moscow would do:

Putin Tells Russian Ex-Pats to 'Stay Away From Our European Nuclear Bomb Targets'

The Kremlin warned ex-patriots to evacuate areas close to several Russian-assigned European nuclear bomb targets, RadarOnline.com has learned.

In a chilling development to come as Vladimir Putin’s ongoing war against Ukraine continues to escalate, a close ally of the 70-year-old Russian leader suggested that nuclear attacks against Europe may “become necessary” and that Russian expatriates needed to be warned before the potential strikes.

Segey Karaganov, who chairs the Council of Foreign and Defense Policy, also revealed that the Kremlin may approve nuclear strikes as a way to force countries to back down from aiding Ukraine.

Nuclear concerns recently arose after both the United Kingdom and the United States supplied Ukraine with weaponry to combat Putin’s invading Russian forces. Putin is allegedly “offering nuclear weapons” to countries that join the war to help Moscow.

"This is a morally terrible choice – we use the weapons of God, dooming ourselves to severe spiritual losses,” the Putin ally said this week, according to Daily Star. "But if this is not done, not only Russia may perish, but, most likely, the entire human civilization will end."

Karaganov also mocked President Joe Biden and called the U.S. leader the "madman in the White House" who would have no choice but to retaliate against strikes on Europe by sacrificing “Boston for Poznan.” https://www.google.com/search?q=Poznan

As RadarOnline.com previously reported, Putin recently heightened nuclear tensions in Europe by moving a number of nukes from Russia into Belarus.

Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko intensified the nuclear tensions further after announcing that he would have "no hesitation" in “pushing the big red button” to start a nuclear war, and, most likely, World War III.

"God forbid, I will have to make a decision on the use of these weapons in modern times,” Lukashenko said earlier week. “But there will be no hesitation, if only there is aggression against us."

The United States said Putin’s decision to move nuclear warheads into Belarus, and Lukashenko’s chilling comments, were “irresponsible.”

"It's the latest example of irresponsible behavior that we have seen from Russia since its full-scale invasion of Ukraine over a year ago,” U.S. State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller said.

"We have seen no reason to adjust our strategic nuclear posture or any indications that Russia is preparing to use a nuclear weapon,” he added.

https://radaronline.com/p/vladimir-putin-warns-russians-stay-away-euro
pean-nuclear-bomb-targets/

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Saturday, June 17, 2023 6:55 AM

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This week, Putin again threatens to nuke the West.

The Russian president has threatened or hinted at the possibility of using nuclear weapons so many times since the war in Ukraine began that experts and civilians alike are increasingly ignoring him. An expert on Russia and Ukraine told Insider last year that the president's threats are most likely meant to manipulate global society by sowing confusion and fear.

https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-warns-west-russian-tactical-nuke
s-being-put-in-belarus-2023-6

Putin has mental problems, as does his apprentice dictator for life Kim Jong Un:

N Korea opens key party meeting to discuss defence
North Korea fired two short-range missiles off its east coast on Thursday, less than an hour after it warned of an “inevitable” response to military drills staged earlier in the day by South Korean and US troops. North Korea has long maintained that such drills threaten its security and are conducted in preparation for a possible invasion of its territory one day.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/17/n-korea-opens-key-party-meeti
ng-to-discuss-defence-diplomacy

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The Russian MoD is attempting to monetarily incentivize the destruction of Ukrainian military equipment, likely to bolster ongoing recruitment efforts and portray Russian forces as capable defenders against Ukrainian attacks. The MoD claimed that it issued payments to over 7,064 Russian military personnel for destroying 4,415 units of Western-made military equipment in Ukraine in 2022. The MoD also claimed that it issued payments of 50,000-300,000 rubles (roughly $598 — $3,593) for intercepting Ukrainian drones, rockets, missiles, and destroying various pieces of Soviet and Western-made equipment.[52] The MoD also claimed that Russian forces are destroying Western-provided tanks in the South Donetsk and Zaporizhia directions, but did not mention the claimed payout per unit.

Russian Deputy Prime Minister Marat Khusnullin announced that Russia intends to complete the construction of a 1,400-kilometer highway that will circle around the Sea of Azov in Russian and occupied Ukrainian territories.[60]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-16-2023

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A new poll shows dismal support for Putin’s use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine – a possibility Putin almost immediately reinforced he is considering.

The polling center – considered the most accurate for insights regarding the public reaction to the Kremlin’s increasingly autocratic governance – left open-ended the main question it posed to respondents, who are typically wary of publicly criticizing Putin’s regime.

“Some believe that in order to win in Ukraine Russia must use nuclear weapons, others believe that it is impossible to use nuclear weapons under any circumstances,” it posed, according to a translation. “And which of these points of view do you most adhere to?”

Putin himself, however, expressed on Friday that he remains undeterred by any opposition to the use of any weapons in his arsenals.

“The use of extreme means is possible if there is a threat to Russian statehood. And in this case, of course, we will use all the forces and means at the disposal of the Russian state,” Putin said at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum in response to a question about nuclear weapons use.

And, predictably, he referenced that the U.S. is the only nuclear-armed country to have employed them in battle.

“Such a precedent has been created – created by the United States,” he said, according to a translation.

Western officials and analysts have fretted in recent months about whether to take seriously Putin’s increasingly aggressive nuclear saber-rattling. He has ordered the deployment of strategic nuclear weapons to Belarus, one of its sole remaining loyal post-Soviet allies and has engaged in other provocative behavior, such as deploying ships armed with hypersonic missiles – which U.S. analysts believe could carry a nuclear warhead – into the Atlantic.

Less catastrophic, but equally perilous for Ukraine, others fear that the mere threats of using nuclear weapons could amount to enough to force Kyiv’s allies in Europe to begin backing away from staunch support for its military, particularly as it escalates its spring offensive.

Other analysts tell U.S. News the possibility Putin would use nuclear weapons is remote, but not impossible.

“The likelihood of Russia choosing – or Putin choosing – to use nuclear weapons directly against the West is astronomically low. It should not even be seriously considered at this stage,” Katherine Lawlor, senior intelligence analyst at the independent Institute for the Study of War, which has fastidiously tracked Russia’s military movements since it first invaded Ukraine, said in February.

“Putin would love it if Western leaders believed that he might. He is many things, but he is not suicidal,” Lawlor said. She adds that Putin ultimately does not want war with NATO – particularly given the current state of the Russian army. “He couldn’t even win a conventional war in Ukraine.”

Lawlor adds these circumstances could change if Russia feels it is squarely in a defensive position and needs to prevent “all-out disaster” – a scenario with renewed significance in light of Ukraine’s offensive.

“You have to think about the human response to nuclear use,” she said, describing the effect on a Ukrainian soldier who witnesses a rising mushroom cloud several miles away toward the front lines. “The Russians may assume it would have a devastating effect on the morale of the surviving Ukrainian forces.”

https://www.usnews.com/news/world-report/articles/2023-06-16/russians-
dont-want-putin-to-use-nuclear-weapons-in-ukraine

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Saturday, June 17, 2023 1:33 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Ukraine's 'counteroffenive' must not be going well, eh THUGR?

You just tried to bury this thread by resurrecting at least six... SIX!... pointless necroposts in a row.

I see a whole lot of 'copium' going on.

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Saturday, June 17, 2023 1:38 PM

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Ukraine's 'counteroffensive' must not be going well, eh THUGR?

You just tried to bury this thread by resurrecting at least six... SIX!... pointless necroposts in a row.

I see a whole lot of 'copium' going on.

Nope, they're still probing. Most of what they have is still in the rears.

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Saturday, June 17, 2023 2:18 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Oh, I see, 'Probing' is what they're calling it.

Remember what I posted? That if a smallish number of troops gets slaughtered they'll call it 'probing', if a larger number of troops gets massacred they'll call it 'reconnaissance in force' and if an even larger force gets creamed they'll call it 'shaping the battlefield'?

With about 7000 men killed and wounded and fifteen pct* of their fancy new western toys taken out of action, that's a mighty expensive 'probe'. If they keep 'probing' like that, seven more tries and they'll have no army left. Literally.

*that's why Zelensky is even now going around Europe and the world begging for more toys.

****

EVERYONE knows that Ukraine's 'counteroffensive' has begun. Kiev refusing to call it doesn't fool anyone; after all they still refuse to acknowledge they lost Bakhmut.

Quote:
Ukraine’s counteroffensive is now underway. Here’s what’s happened so far
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/17/europe/ukraine-counteroffensive-explain
ed-hnk-intl/index.html

Ukraine’s counteroffensive begins: What do we know so far?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/13/ukraines-counteroffensive-beg
ins-what-do-we-know-so-far

Ukraine's Counteroffensive Is Underway. How It's Going Isn't Clear
https://time.com/6287830/ukraine-counteroffensive-slow-progress/

And yes, Kiev does have more toys in the rear (unless Russia destroys them with distance weapons, that is.) But even Milley has downgraded expectations for what EVERYONE now recognizes is Ukraine's long-awaited 'couteroffensive':

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Ukraine’s fight a ‘marathon’ not a ‘sprint,’ Secretary of Defense says
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/06/15/ukraines-f
ight-a-marathon-not-a-sprint-secretary-of-defense-says/

USA military not impressed with Ukraine's launching attacks in five different directions, losing lots of donated western weapns in the process. Kiev needs to change tactics.

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Putin Ally Says Nuclear Weapons 'Must' Be Used to Strike NATO Countries

By Andrew Stanton On 6/17/23 at 12:12 PM EDT

"The approach is very simple. I think tactical nuclear weapons will be used, and it is inevitable. I believe that tactical nuclear weapons must be used on the crossings over the Dnieper, on entry points of railroad transport from Western countries which supply arms, on Boryspil," he said.

Solovyov continued to say that Russia should use nuclear weapons against places where Western equipment is being stored to be used by Ukrainian soldiers in countries such as Poland, Germany and Slovakia, as well as places where Ukrainians are being trained—even if those areas are in NATO countries.

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-ally-says-nuclear-weapons-must-used-str
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Russian State TV Guest Says Country Invaded Ukraine To Avoid War

By James Bickerton On 6/17/23 at 7:59 AM EDT

"We were forced to launch this special military operation when the leadership of the country realized that everything was going to happen by June 22.

"That a powerful army would be prepared, in fact, an army of Ukrainian zombies, slaves, that would invade here and there would be a big war. In order not to have this big war they had to start this special military operation."

Markov didn't provide any evidence that Ukraine had been planning to invade Russia, a view almost universally regarded as ludicrous by international relations experts.

https://www.newsweek.com/russian-state-tv-guest-invaded-ukraine-avoid-
war-1807421

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Putin: I can destroy any building in Kyiv city centre, but I won't. Why? I will not say

Putin assures that he can "destroy any building in the centre of Kyiv" without nuclear weapons, but does not do this "for a number of reasons"; yet, the Russian dictator refused to reveal those reasons.

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Saturday, June 17, 2023 4:53 PM

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Well, yes he can. Russia's missiles are accurate enough, and powerful enough. His destruction of Kiev's GRU building proves exactly that.

Why won't he? Well, one possible answer that makes sense is bc he has human assets embedded in Kiev's decision-making centers and he doesn't want to (literally) burn them bc the intel.they provide is very valuable. If that's the case, what do you expect him to say? "I won't destroy your buildings because I have assets embedded there"?

I can guess. Maybe you can't.

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Saturday, June 17, 2023 5:18 PM

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Republican senator mentions nuclear strikes when asked about possible US action against Russia (2021)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/roger-wi
cker-ukraine-russia-nuclear-b1971691.html

President Zelensky Suggests Ukraine May Pursue Nuclear Weapons To Counter Russia, Putin Responds (2022)
https://www.dailywire.com/news/president-zelensky-suggests-ukraine-may
-pursue-nuclear-weapons-to-counter-russia-putin-responds

Senior fellow at major think-tank American Enterprise Institute wants to give tactical nukes to Ukraine

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Can Biden Deter a Russia Nuclear Attack on Ukraine? Yes, if He Gives Ukraine Tactical Nukes (June 12, 2023)
https://www.aei.org/op-eds/can-biden-deter-a-russia-nuclear-attack-on-
ukraine-yes-if-he-gives-ukraine-tactical-nukes/

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, yes he can. Russia's missiles are accurate enough, and powerful enough. His destruction of Kiev's GRU building proves exactly that.

Why won't he? Well, one possible answer that makes sense is bc he has human assets embedded in Kiev's decision-making centers and he doesn't want to (literally) burn them bc the intel.they provide is very valuable. If that's the case, what do you expect him to say? "I won't destroy your buildings because I have assets embedded there"?

I can guess. Maybe you can't.

If Putin was a useful man, he would not be following the path that Kim Jong Un of North Korea follows in making NK citizens poor compared to South Koreans. Instead, Putin would be following the Canadian path which made Canadian citizens richer than United States citizens. See below, where the median Canadian is richer than the median American. If Canada can do it, Russia could do it better, but Putin's path is definitely not helping Russian citizens.

List of Countries by Median wealth per adult, in US dollars
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_per_adult

Iceland $375,735
Luxembourg $350,271
Australia $273,903
Belgium $267,887
New Zealand $231,257
Hong Kong $202,376
Denmark $171,175
Switzerland $168,084
Canada $151,248
Netherlands $142,994
United Kingdom $141,552
France $139,169
Norway $132,482
Japan $119,999
Taiwan $113,938
Italy $112,138
Spain $104,163
Qatar $100,014
Malta $97,524
Sweden $95,051
United States $93,271
South Korea $93,141
Singapore $93,133

Russia $6,919

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Saturday, June 17, 2023 7:37 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Russia is getting much richer.
America is getting poorer.
Troll.

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Saturday, June 17, 2023 7:46 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russia is getting much richer.
America is getting poorer.
Troll.

Time will tell if your prediction is correct, but Canada took a path to more wealth for citizens than Russia or US. Canada did this without war, without nukes, and without becoming a new pole in the Russian multipolar world.

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Saturday, June 17, 2023 10:51 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Yeah, that whole concept of not spending on WAR? This is where our tax dollars are hemorrhaging.

Now, Canada and many EU nations got away with spending their budgets on social programs instead bc we were hemorrhaging money on weapons. (Stupid, dysfunctional, expen$ive weapons, but everybody was entranced with the idea of the USA being the mightiest military in the world, and budgeted accordingly.)

That's what we get for trying to control everyone, everywhere.

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Saturday, June 17, 2023 11:21 PM

Yeah.

I keep telling everyone that Justina Tredeau and whoever is currently running the shitshow called Mexico would have to shut their fucking mouths up tight if they didn't have Daddy US Military on their borders.

The same goes for everyone in Europe too. NATO and the UN wouldn't even exist if we didn't go into even more debt that will never be paid off every single year for military expenses.

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, yes he can. Russia's missiles are accurate enough, and powerful enough. His destruction of Kiev's GRU building proves exactly that.

Why won't he? Well, one possible answer that makes sense is bc he has human assets embedded in Kiev's decision-making centers and he doesn't want to (literally) burn them bc the intel.they provide is very valuable. If that's the case, what do you expect him to say? "I won't destroy your buildings because I have assets embedded there"?

I can guess. Maybe you can't.
If Putin was a useful man, he would not be following the path that Kim Jong Un of North Korea follows in making NK citizens poor compared to South Koreans. Instead, Putin would be following the Canadian path which made Canadian citizens richer than United States citizens. See below, where the median Canadian is richer than the median American. If Canada can do it, Russia could do it better, but Putin's path is definitely not helping Russian citizens.

List of Countries by Median wealth per adult, in US dollars
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_per_adult

Iceland $375,735
Luxembourg $350,271
Australia $273,903
Belgium $267,887
New Zealand $231,257
Hong Kong $202,376
Denmark $171,175
Switzerland $168,084
Canada $151,248
Netherlands $142,994
United Kingdom $141,552
France $139,169
Norway $132,482
Japan $119,999
Taiwan $113,938
Italy $112,138
Spain $104,163
Qatar $100,014
Malta $97,524
Sweden $95,051
United States $93,271
South Korea $93,141
Singapore $93,133

Russia $6,919

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Second finally learned the lesson I tried many times to teach him and he used median instead of mean.

Good doggy.

Only $93k in the US, huh? Sad.

I'm freakin' killing it. Especially for a guy who hasn't worked since summer of 2019.

Just call me Iceleand.

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Sunday, June 18, 2023 2:46 AM

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Actually, we should be looking at modal income and modal wealth (i.e. where most people are,"typical"). If you were to plot (for example) number of people on the vertical axis against income on the horizontal axis, you would find at least one peak.

The typical family gets appx $20,000 in income.

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The New York Times (NYT) released a report supporting ISW’s prior assessment that Russian forces most likely destroyed the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant (KHPP) dam.[22] NYT cited multiple US and Ukrainian engineering experts who examined diagrams of the KHPP dam, imagery of the destroyed dam foundation, footage of the initial breach, and seismic data. The experts determined that the degree of damage to the dam’s internal structures is consistent with an explosion from within the dam’s internal structures rather than from prior damage. NYT also quoted a senior US military official as saying that the US ruled out an external attack, such as from a missile, rocket, or other projectile, as causing the explosion, and that the US believes that Russian forces most likely caused the internal explosion that caused the dam’s collapse. ISW has assessed since the destruction of the KHPP dam on June 6 that the preponderance of available evidence, reasoning, and rhetoric suggests that Russian forces deliberately damaged the dam.[23]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-17-2023

An Inside Job

By James Glanz, Marc Santora, Pablo Robles, Haley Willis, Lauren Leatherby, Christoph Koettl and Dmitriy Khavin, June 16, 2023

A dam in Ukraine was designed to withstand almost any attack imaginable — from the outside. The evidence suggests Russia blew it up from within.

Deep inside the dam was an Achilles’ heel. And because the dam was built during Soviet times, Moscow had every page of the engineering drawings and knew where it was. The dam was built with an enormous concrete block as its foundation. A small passageway runs through it, reachable from the dam's machine room. It was in this passageway, the evidence suggests, that an explosive charge detonated and destroyed the dam. At 2:35 a.m on June 6, seismic sensors in Ukraine and Romania detected the telltale signs of large explosions. As the water levels further dropped this week, they fell below the top of the concrete foundation. The section that collapsed was not visible above the water line — strong evidence that the foundation had suffered structural damage, engineers said. In the chaotic aftermath, with each side blaming the other for the collapse, multiple explanations are theoretically possible. But the evidence clearly suggests the dam was crippled by an explosion set off by the side that controls it: Russia.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230617202758/https://www.nytimes.com/int
eractive/2023/06/16/world/europe/ukraine-kakhovka-dam-collapse.html

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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yeah, that whole concept of not spending on WAR? This is where our tax dollars are hemorrhaging.

Now, Canada and many EU nations got away with spending their budgets on social programs instead bc we were hemorrhaging money on weapons. (Stupid, dysfunctional, expen$ive weapons, but everybody was entranced with the idea of the USA being the mightiest military in the world, and budgeted accordingly.)

That's what we get for trying to control everyone, everywhere.

Signym, I believe that looking only at how many $billions the US spends on defense is absolutely the wrong way to look at what went wrong with the US.

Defense spending as a percentage of gdp gives a different and better answer.
https://www.google.com/search?q=defense+spending+percentage+of+gdp

List of countries by military expenditures ($ billions) and gdp %

0 World total $2,240 2.2% 100%
1 US $877.0 3.5% 39%
2 China $292.0 1.6% 13%
3 Russia $86.4 4.1% 3.9%
4 India $81.4 2.4% 3.6%
5 Saudi Arabia $75.0 7.4% 3.3%
6 UK $68.5 2.2% 3.1%
7 Germany $55.8 1.4% 2.5%
8 France $53.6 1.9% 2.4%
9 S Korea $46.4 2.7% 2.1%
10 Japan $46.0 1.1% 2.1%
11 Ukraine $44.0 34% 2.0%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditur
es

The US spends 3.5% of gdp on defense and Ukraine spends 34%

If you were spending 3.5% of your income on alcohol and drinking it all, it would seriously addle your brain and lower your income (cutting it in half or worse) because of hangovers. But if you poured the alcohol down the drain or gave it to friends who are alcoholics rather than drinking it yourself, your life would be almost unaffected by wasting 3.5% of your income. Every time the US spent 3.5% of gdp to send US troops overseas, the entire US got a hangover. See the Iraq War or the Afghanistan War for recent examples. It is much better to NOT send US troops. Send US money instead and avoid the terrible hangover.

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Sunday, June 18, 2023 7:26 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

why send either troops or money?

Are not many of these other nations that receive our foreign aid, troops, and/or protection themselves prosperous, developed nations able to look after their own national security? As I recall, that was the reason for Trump's inisistance that the NATO nations pay at least 2.2 pct of their GDP into military spending. After all, an aliance is supposed to be about MUTUAL defense, not giving 32 other nations a free ride forever.

Altho IMHO NATO has morphed into an aggressive entity not a muual defense pact.
It should be reduced and reconstituted, and ALL member nations should be equally responsible for defense.

In addition, every single one of our deployments has been to fight as aggessors on foreign soil. The USA has not fought a war to defend itself since the War of 1812. Or, some would say, the Civil War. What did the FF say about avoiding foreign entanglements?

Anyway, to get to prosperity for a moment: IMHO a nation cant be TRULY properous unless it has a productive, balanced economy as much as it is able. And that means ... yes, actually prosucing things. Tons of steel. Tons of grain. Barrels of oil, cubic meters of gas, tons of cement, chips, fertilizer, basic industrial chemicals, pharamceuticals, wood products, textiles, whatever it can produce it should. Many nations bc of historical accident are too small and have too few resources to be even modestly self sufficient; Japan and Cuba for example lack nearly every critical resource necessary for a modern economy. The USA, Russia, Canada, India and Brazil tho have great promise.

USA elites ditched production in favor of financialism, where costs are lower and returns are higher. Altho technically richer, if you discount non-productive entries int our GDP like the 'value' homeowners MIGHT receive IF they were torent their homes (yes, such bullshit really does enter into our so-called 'GDP') or look at purchasing power parity (PPP) or modal living standards, the USA doesnt stack up so hot

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Russia is getting much richer.
America is getting poorer.
Troll.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
why send either troops or money?

Because Russia has been threatening to nuke the US since Russia got its first nukes? Because those Russian threats cost the US at least $10 trillion for its own nukes to deter Russia from nuking the US? Or because Russia deserves a pummeling? For example:

She thought she was unshockable, then two castrated Ukrainian soldiers arrived

Sexual violence against men is an under-reported part of the Ukraine war. A psychologist describes the impact on her patients of their torture by Russians

https://archive.is/2023.06.17-184144/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/articl
e/4561e12a-0d14-11ee-aa7c-6e26d8c3ad9b

There have been multiple reports of this, even since 2014 when they invaded Donetsk region. And same happened in Georgia in 2008 and Chechnya in the 90s. Afghanistan, Syria, African countries….the list goes on.

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Russian occupation officials are continuing to prioritize medical treatment for Russian military personnel in occupied Mariupol, reportedly significantly increasing the civilian mortality rate in the city. The Ukrainian Resistance Center reported on June 18 that the civilian mortality rate in Mariupol from “natural” causes significantly intensified to a peak of 400 deaths per week – 2.6 times higher than Ukraine’s national mortality rate during the peak of the Covid-19 pandemic. The Ukrainian Resistance Center reported that Mariupol has no functional medical system because all medical facilities are treating Russian military personnel. Russian forces have consistently used civilian medical infrastructure in occupied Ukraine for their own needs, and are struggling to compensate for the resulting shortage in available healthcare personnel and beds.[50]

A Wall Street Journal (WSJ) interview with Russian prisoners of war (POWs) indicates continued significant morale and command issues among frontline Russian units and the continued Russian use of “barrier forces” to shoot retreating soldiers.[11] WSJ amplified the statements of three unidentified Russian POWs who voluntarily surrendered to Ukrainian forces during Ukrainian counteroffensive operations near Velyka Novosilka, on the administrative border between Donetsk and Zaporizhia oblasts. The POWs reported widespread fear of a Ukrainian counteroffensive among Russian forces on the frontlines. The POWs indicated that the Russian military command sees Russian conscripts and penal recruits as expendable, and claimed Russian officers order injured personnel deemed unfit for service back to the front line and use “barrier forces” to prevent penal recruits in “Storm-Z” units from retreating. Barrier forces are specialized units that threaten to shoot their own personnel either to prevent retreats or to force them to attack, and unverified social media footage recently circulated depicting Russian barrier troops shooting retreating Russian forces in Ukraine.[12] The POWs also indicated that Russian forces struggle to supply and staff their units, including struggling to crew tanks and armored vehicles.[13] The POWs expressed concern about returning to Russia in a POW exchange due to Russian laws prohibiting voluntary surrender to the enemy.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-18-2023

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Russian spy chief flags 'suspicious' Ukrainian nuclear activity

(Reuters) - One of Russia's top spymasters said on Monday he hoped that the U.N. nuclear watchdog and the European Union would look into Ukrainian nuclear activity that he said might signal Kyiv was working on a "dirty bomb".

Sergei Naryshkin, the head of Russia's SVR foreign intelligence service, did not provide documentary evidence to back his assertions.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-spy-chief-flags-suspiciou
s-ukrainian-nuclear-activity/ar-AA1cK8Hu?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=e2a005c948ec4b54a85f5bcc0e2472d5&ei=102

We all know this means Russia is considering using one themselves. This is about deflecting blame to Ukraine. Isn't that right comrade signym?

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Monday, June 19, 2023 9:22 AM

Fuck Ukraine.

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Monday, June 19, 2023 9:35 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Fuck Ukraine.

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6ix, you should assign to one key the following sentences: "Trump will be fine. LOL. Fuck Ukraine. Trump will be your next President." Making your responses a single keystroke will save you hours per year.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Monday, June 19, 2023 12:53 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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why send either troops or money?

SECOND: Because Russia has been threatening to nuke the US since Russia got its first nukes?

WTF good would THAT do? Beside painting targets on other nations?

Maybe if WE stopped escalating and got back to handling this like adults ... neotiatig treaties AND STICKING WITH THEM... we might fix the problem.

BTW, if "sexual violence against men" was a real story, you'd think it would be splashed all over the internet instead of tucked away in some obscure little article. I don't know who you think you're fooling with your little 'stories'.
troll

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Monday, June 19, 2023 2:56 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
why send either troops or money?

SECOND: Because Russia has been threatening to nuke the US since Russia got its first nukes?
WTF good would THAT do? Beside painting targets on other nations?

Maybe if WE stopped escalating and got back to handling this like adults ... neotiatig treaties AND STICKING WITH THEM... we might fix the problem.

BTW, if "sexual violence against men" was a real story, you'd think it would be splashed all over the internet instead of tucked away in some obscure little article. I don't know who you think you're fooling with your little 'stories'.
troll

Firefly has lessons on how to handle Russians. Did you see Serenity? The big moment in Serenity was River standing on a pile of dead Reavers. Think Reavers as Russians. River did not capture the Russians and assign them POW status. River didn't contact the International Criminal Court prosecutors and present evidence that the Russians were guilty of War Crimes. Instead, River methodically killed all Russians. Nobody but the Russians would mourn the Russians passing away because Russians are horrible people who have killed tens of millions of Russians and also killed millions of innocent people who aren't Russian. Signym, if you keep insisting the Russians are not murderers, you are worse than a Russian. The Russians will die as Ukrainians slaughter the Russian horde because Russians don't listen to reason, Russians are trying to grow wealthy by stealing Ukrainian land, Russians won't stop murdering people, and Russians can no more stop lying than Signym can. Obviously, a movie like Serenity would not sell many tickets to Russians if the Russians understood that River Tam is extremely prejudiced against people behaving as Russians behave. Renaming the Russians as Reavers doesn't obscure what the movie is about.

Serenity's METASCORE = 76
Generally favorable reviews based on 34 Critic Reviews
https://www.metacritic.com/movie/serenity

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Monday, June 19, 2023 3:07 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

You believe in fantasy?
Troll.

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Monday, June 19, 2023 3:55 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
why send either troops or money?

SECOND: Because Russia has been threatening to nuke the US since Russia got its first nukes?
WTF good would THAT do? Beside painting targets on other nations?

Maybe if WE stopped escalating and got back to handling this like adults ... neotiatig treaties AND STICKING WITH THEM... we might fix the problem.

BTW, if "sexual violence against men" was a real story, you'd think it would be splashed all over the internet instead of tucked away in some obscure little article. I don't know who you think you're fooling with your little 'stories'.
troll
Firefly has lessons on how to handle Russians. Did you see Serenity? The big moment in Serenity was River standing on a pile of dead Reavers. Think Reavers as Russians. River did not capture the Russians and assign them POW status. River didn't contact the International Criminal Court prosecutors and present evidence that the Russians were guilty of War Crimes. Instead, River methodically killed all Russians. Nobody but the Russians would mourn the Russians passing away because Russians are horrible people who have killed tens of millions of Russians and also killed millions of innocent people who aren't Russian. Signym, if you keep insisting the Russians are not murderers, you are worse than a Russian. The Russians will die as Ukrainians slaughter the Russian horde because Russians don't listen to reason, Russians are trying to grow wealthy by stealing Ukrainian land, Russians won't stop murdering people, and Russians can no more stop lying than Signym can. Obviously, a movie like Serenity would not sell many tickets to Russians if the Russians understood that River Tam is extremely prejudiced against people behaving as Russians behave.

Racist.

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