Russia Invades Ukraine. Again by captaincrunch

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Usually you make more sense, so please explain...
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SIX, if "The Interagency" has such a tight grip on foreign policy, money supply and all that, what Congress does or doesn't do hardly makes a difference. At this point Congress is mostly a bunch of feckless twats stroking each other and grandstanding for the electorate.

But aside from that, AFA Ukraine is concerned, Russia is in the driver's seat. It's not up to the President, Congress, or "The Interagency" what happens next, unless Biden dementedly starts a nuclear war. As long as it remains conventional, the various American and European factions will continue to squabble with each other and amongst themselves until Ukraine surrenders. After that, Russia will start addressing NATO directly.

It's not in Congress's hands, even if they like to think so.
Chill.

SIX: I just don't seeing our TDS suffering elected officials getting us one step closer to joining some sort of EU.
Is that even an issue? And ... that's a good thing, right? I don't understand your point.

I must have been tired when I wrote that or something. I meant to say "I just don't like seeing". This is not a good thing. I view this vote as taking us one step closer to joining some sort of EU.

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SIX: The countries with the most are the ones giving up their quality of life for everyone else.

It's bad enough that we're giving the whole damn country away to illegal foreign invaders as it is.

The countries that are suffering the most are in the EU, and AFAIK Germany and Britain are suffering the most.
So IDK what this point is either.

That's exactly my point. Whatever we join, we're the losers. We don't even have to be in any organization at all and we're always splitting up and devaluing the US dollar everyday with those printing presses constantly running and giving it all away to foreign countries while the homeless keep mounting in the streets here.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

That's exactly my point. Whatever we join, we're the losers. We don't even have to be in any organization at all and we're always splitting up and devaluing the US dollar everyday with those printing presses constantly running and giving it all away to foreign countries while the homeless keep mounting in the streets here.

There is a federal program to end homelessness, but the homeless say what 6ix says: "I'm doing fine. I don't want the Federal government telling me what to do with my life." And so the drunken fools lie around all day doing nothing other than picking up aluminum cans for money because they refuse to allow anybody to stop them from being proud fools.

Federal Funding for Homelessness Programs HUD's McKinney-Vento Homeless Assistance Grants program is at the core of federal efforts to end homelessness. Each year, HUD awards Homeless Assistance Grants to communities that administer housing and services at the local level.
https://endhomelessness.org/ending-homelessness/policy/

There is an Ending Homelessness Act of 2023 that will never pass because Republicans don't want it to pass: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/4232/text

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Sunday, December 17, 2023 8:06 AM

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The United States has provided more than $71 billion in aid to Ukraine since the start of the war. That includes $43.9 billion in military assistance, more than the next 11 donating countries combined, according to a tracker maintained by Germany’s Kiel Institute.

https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tra
cker/

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The Financial Times (FT) reported on December 15 that the G7 may consider using frozen Russian assets to fund Ukraine.[24] FT reported that US officials circulated a discussion paper about how G7 members and other states could seize Russian sovereign assets in a way “consistent with international law” as a “countermeasure to induce Russia to end its aggression” in Ukraine during G7 committee meetings. FT reported that the G7 could use a portion of the $300 billion worth of frozen Russian assets to fund assistance packages to Ukraine and that a US official stated that G7 leaders may discuss the proposal at their meeting in February 2024.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-december-16-2023

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Sunday, December 17, 2023 8:25 AM

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What happens in Ukraine if US aid disappears?

Countries will take the lesson from a defeat of Ukraine — which gave up the nuclear weapons on its territory in the 1990s in exchange for security guarantees from Russia and the United States — that they should acquire a nuclear deterrent of their own. This is particularly true for countries with their own belligerent neighbors such as Japan, South Korea, even NATO countries. They worry about how much the US would actually support them when they needed it, and how vulnerable they are to pressure or attack by another nuclear power.

Earlier this year, in a speech in Warsaw after his landmark visit to Ukraine, Biden described Russia’s invasion as a test not only for Ukraine but for the United States and the democratic world. Russia, he said, had met the “iron will of America and the nations everywhere that refused to accept a world governed by fear and force.”

Other countries will take note if this “iron will” starts to bend.

https://www.vox.com/world-politics/24002840/ukraine-russia-war-united-
states-aid-volodymyr-zelensky-vladimir-putin-europe-congress-border

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Sunday, December 17, 2023 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

That's exactly my point. Whatever we join, we're the losers. We don't even have to be in any organization at all and we're always splitting up and devaluing the US dollar everyday with those printing presses constantly running and giving it all away to foreign countries while the homeless keep mounting in the streets here.
There is a federal program to end homelessness, but the homeless say what 6ix says: "I'm doing fine. I don't want the Federal government telling me what to do with my life." And so the drunken fools lie around all day doing nothing other than picking up aluminum cans for money because they refuse to allow anybody to stop them from being proud fools.

That's a boldfaced lie.

There are homeless programs, but it's a grift that very few people get rich off of while it does absolutely nothing to help homeless people.

I thought you guys were the party of "don't blame the victims".

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Sunday, December 17, 2023 1:22 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Usually you make more sense, so please explain ...

SIX: I just don't seeing our TDS suffering elected officials getting us one step closer to joining some sort of EU.

SIGNY: Is that even an issue? And ... that's a good thing, right? I don't understand your point.

SIX: I must have been tired when I wrote that or something. I meant to say "I just don't like seeing". This is not a good thing. I view this vote as taking us one step closer to joining some sort of EU.

OK! Makes sense now! (Just keep an eye on your blood sugar, there have been more uninterpretable sentences lately, and you're MUCH more on top of your posts than that.)

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SIX: The countries with the most are the ones giving up their quality of life for everyone else.
It's bad enough that we're giving the whole damn country away to illegal foreign invaders as it is.

SIGNY: The countries that are suffering the most are in the EU, and AFAIK Germany and Britain are suffering the most.
So IDK what this point is either.

SIX: That's exactly my point. Whatever we join, we're the losers. We don't even have to be in any organization at all and we're always splitting up and devaluing the US dollar everyday with those printing presses constantly running and giving it all away to foreign countries while the homeless keep mounting in the streets here.

Right now the USA is climbing on the drowning EU's back. Since we convinced them to sanction Russian energy and blew up their pipeline, their energy costs ... the base for any modern industrial economy .... roughly pentupled and their industries are moving here, they say, where energy is cheaper.

Not that you'd notice it from our industrial production, tho!

I'm really REALLY not a big fan of us joining international organizations that remove sovereign rights from USA and prevent our government from representing OUR .... i.e. the American people's and society's ... interests. But our elite manage to screw that up even without joining anything.

Heck, look at Ukraine: Is it part of NATO??? Then WTF are we doing there? I could say the same for most of the Mideast, Africa, and S and Central America, where we wasted trillions upon trillions of dollars doing shit that didn't help anyone except the rich get richer.

It's a matter of corruption. DC is almost to a person corrupt and, at this point, so well insulated from the real world as to be stupefied and delusional.

And Americans have been so comfortable in their belief that America is the only nation that counts they pay no attention at all to foreign policy.

It just reminds me of the book "When society becomes an addict".
We are addicted to comforting ideas about us, about the world, but these ideas are dysfunctional in the real world. Look at JO753. Look at THUGR. Look at SECOND.

Instead of demanding jobs in a vibrant economy, we're stuck on demanding handouts, "reparations", blaming all kinds of "isms", living on credit cards and social media... WTF kind of society and economy is THAT???

We may have to hit hottom, have a nationwide red pill moment, throw out the entire echelon of politicos and elites and media whores on their collective asses, and reconstitute ourselves with a better grip on reality.

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Monday, December 18, 2023 9:01 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

It just reminds me of the book "When society becomes an addict".
We are addicted to comforting ideas about us, about the world, but these ideas are dysfunctional in the real world. Look at JO753. Look at THUGR. Look at SECOND.

Instead of demanding jobs in a vibrant economy, we're stuck on demanding handouts, "reparations", blaming all kinds of "isms", living on credit cards and social media... WTF kind of society and economy is THAT???

We may have to hit hottom, have a nationwide red pill moment, throw out the entire echelon of politicos and elites and media whores on their collective asses, and reconstitute ourselves with a better grip on reality.

Matthew Perry died last week because he did not have a 24/7 guardian who could not be fired and who would consistently tell him that, no, he could not use those drugs and if he even tried the guardian would zap him with a cattle prod. That lack of a guardian is what is wrong with most Americans. They can't control themselves, nobody is doing it for them, and they won't voluntarily behave well 24/7, all of which gets them into trouble and shortens their lives. They are feckless.

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Monday, December 18, 2023 9:08 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

That's a boldfaced lie.

There are homeless programs, but it's a grift that very few people get rich off of while it does absolutely nothing to help homeless people.

I thought you guys were the party of "don't blame the victims".

6ix, you talk nonsense. If you don't blame the fucking victim, they go off and victimize themselves until they are dead, all the time wondering why bad things happen to them. 6ix, your drunkenness was all your fault. You bought the beers and you drank them. If you had kept it up and drank the money that should be used to pay your taxes on your house, you'd be homeless, too. No power in America could stop you from ruining yourself. If you stop using insulin and stop replacing your diabetes monitor, you are dead. Again, if you stop, you ruin yourself and it is your fault.

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Monday, December 18, 2023 9:11 AM

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If the US stops supporting Ukraine there will be bad consequences for America. Not immediately, but eventually and very expensively:

Putin’s reassurances about his peaceful intentions toward NATO ring hollow in the context of the threats he and Kremlin pundits have recently been making against NATO member states. Putin threatened Poland on July 21, stating that Russia would respond “with all the means” at its disposal after Warsaw sent troops to the Belarusian-Polish border due to the redeployment of Wagner Group fighters to Belarus.[8] Deputy Chairman of the Russian Security Council Dmitry Medvedev threatened on August 29 that Russia had “an opportunity to act within the framework of jus ad bellum against everyone in NATO countries” when commenting on Western support of Ukrainian strikes on occupied Crimea.[9] Medvedev similarly threatened Poland in November when he stated that Russia deems Warsaw to be a “dangerous enemy” that could lose its “statehood.”[10] A Russian propagandist suggested on Russian state TV on December 2 that Baltic states would be Russia’s next military target and that they would fall shortly after Ukraine.[11] Russian propagandist Vladimir Solovyov, Medvedev, and other pundits consistently threaten to use nuclear weapons against the United States and other NATO countries.[12] These threats are part of long-standing Russian narratives about attacking NATO that predated Finland’s application and acceptance into the alliance on April 4.[13] The statements of Russian pundits do not pose a military threat to NATO countries, to be sure, but they are important context for Putin’s ostensible effort to calm the waters during his December 17 interview. Putin’s proclamation that Russia has no interest in invading NATO is also very similar to the Kremlin’s persistent claims in late 2021 and early 2022 — including right up to the eve of the invasion — that Russia did not intend to invade Ukraine.[14] The interview was likely a deliberate attempt to reamplify the Kremlin’s efforts to misrepresent the Russian military threat as an imaginary and artificial NATO invention.[15]

Putin’s worldview suggests that Putin regards anything less than full Western surrender to Russian grand strategic objectives as insufficient.[43]

This zero-sum world view of geopolitics is indicative of Putin’s personal philosophy, which prizes power above all else and frames any compromise as defeat. Putin implied in the Rossiya 1 interview that he did not apologize to his mother as a child (despite her punishments and numerous requests for an apology) but held firm until she finally wavered in punishing him.[44] This anecdote, bizarrely intruded into a conversation about Russian strategic objectives, may have been an indirect reference to Putin’s commitment to force those opposed to him to capitulate. This view is also clearly seen in the key thesis of Putin’s quasi-auto-biography First Person, which argues that Putin concluded that it was necessary to impose his will upon the world for Russia’s survival.[45]

The Kremlin's repeated rhetoric about its hostile intent towards NATO, coupled with Russia’s potential future military capabilities in the event of Russian victory in Ukraine, poses a credible — and costly — threat to Western security. If Russia were able to achieve its stated maximalist objective of full Ukrainian capitulation, likely leading to a Russian military occupation of Ukraine, Russia would be able to deploy forces right up to NATO’s border from the Black Sea to the Arctic Ocean.[46] ISW recently assessed that the sudden collapse of Western aid would likely lead sooner or later to the collapse of Ukraine’s ability to hold off the Russian military.[47] Given Russia’s demonstrated hostile intent towards NATO and its potential military capabilities along almost the entirety of NATO’s eastern border, the West would be obliged to prepare to defend against possible Russian action against NATO. The cost of these defensive measures would be astronomical and would likely be accompanied by a period of very high risk.[48] Support for Ukraine offers the West the best opportunity to avoid these costs and the expanded Russian threat.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-december-17-2023

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Monday, December 18, 2023 11:24 AM

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That's a boldfaced lie.

There are homeless programs, but it's a grift that very few people get rich off of while it does absolutely nothing to help homeless people.

I thought you guys were the party of "don't blame the victims".
6ix, you talk nonsense.

I'm quoting dumbfuck shitlibs from websites you read everyday.

Vox: A safety campaign blames pedestrians for getting hit by cars. This response is perfect.

https://www.vox.com/2015/3/31/8319189/pedestrian-safety-campaign

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What Browne is pointing out here is that the original ad is engaging in a bit of victim-blaming.

Yes, if you're a pedestrian, wearing bright colors reduces your risk of getting hit by a car. But ultimately, it's drivers that are responsible for running over pedestrians — and there's something weird about putting up safety ads on buses that focus on pedestrians' choice of attire instead.

Vox: Things not do in anti-rape campaigns: blame the victim

https://www.vox.com/2014/8/4/5966593/anti-rape-campaign-victim-blaming

Vox: Megan Thee Stallion, Me Too, and hip-hop’s cycle of misogynoir

The outcome of the Tory Lanez shooting trial won’t erase Megan Thee Stallion’s pain.

https://www.vox.com/culture/23494788/megan-thee-stallion-tory-lanez-as
sault-trial

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There’s a very real combination of slut-shaming and victim-blaming that is happening in this case, as well.

Vox: Stop calling them “accidents”

From car crashes to environmental spills to workplace injuries, author Jessie Singer encourages us to reconsider the word “accident.”

https://www.vox.com/23016529/there-are-no-accidents-jessie-singer

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When someone is killed in an “accident,” let’s say a car crash, for example, people almost always ask questions like, “Was he in the crosswalk? Was she wearing a helmet? What color clothes were they wearing?” Why is it that we feel compelled to do that?

Questions of blame are really important to us when things get scary. This is especially true with accidents because they seem random, because we’re focused on that last person who made a mistake. It seems like there could have been no other conditions under which that mistake was made.

Seemingly random horrors and tragedies are terrifying. As a result, victim blaming, or even perpetrator blaming, is a comfort because it’s a way of feeling in control of an uncontrollable situation.

Vox: Quiz: Are you blaming the victim?

https://www.vox.com/2014/7/25/5937977/what-is-victim-blaming-quiz

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Stephen A. Smith, one of ESPN's marquee sports commentators, felt the wrath of Twitter Friday afternoon after an on-air conversation about domestic violence took a controversial but familiar turn. Smith was discussing NFL player Ray Rice, who recently received a two-game suspension from the Baltimore Ravens as punishment for a February arrest for assaulting his now-wife.

Smith noted that violence against women is wrong, but he also cautioned women to "make sure [they] don't do anything to provoke wrong actions" and to do their part "in making sure [an assault] doesn't happen." This sparked some heavy debate about how much responsibility women might carry for violence committed against them by men, as well as accusations of victim-blaming.

It's an issue around which there is much confusion. So what is blaming the victim? Are you doing it? Click below to find out.

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If you don't blame the fucking victim, they go off and victimize themselves until they are dead, all the time wondering why bad things happen to them.

I agree. 100%.

Vox would disagree with you. Maybe you should stop supporting them and/or believing everything else they tell you.

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6ix, your drunkenness was all your fault. You bought the beers and you drank them. If you had kept it up and drank the money that should be used to pay your taxes on your house, you'd be homeless, too. No power in America could stop you from ruining yourself.

I agree. 100%.

I've never once said otherwise.

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If you stop using insulin and stop replacing your diabetes monitor, you are dead. Again, if you stop, you ruin yourself and it is your fault.

I agree. 100%.

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I don't even understand why you posted this in your reply.

All it does is confirm that I agree 100% with what you posted about my alcoholism being my own fault.

But the fact of the matter is, even though programs to "help" the homeless exist, they are nothing more than a grift that politicians and their friends and families get rich off of. These expensive programs with little oversight do nothing to actually help homeless people.

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Monday, December 18, 2023 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

It just reminds me of the book "When society becomes an addict".
We are addicted to comforting ideas about us, about the world, but these ideas are dysfunctional in the real world. Look at JO753. Look at THUGR. Look at SECOND.

Instead of demanding jobs in a vibrant economy, we're stuck on demanding handouts, "reparations", blaming all kinds of "isms", living on credit cards and social media... WTF kind of society and economy is THAT???

We may have to hit hottom, have a nationwide red pill moment, throw out the entire echelon of politicos and elites and media whores on their collective asses, and reconstitute ourselves with a better grip on reality.

SECOND: Matthew Perry died last week because he did not have a 24/7 guardian who could not be fired and who would consistently tell him that, no, he could not use those drugs and if he even tried the guardian would zap him with a cattle prod. That lack of a guardian is what is wrong with most Americans.

Our Congresspeople and "officials" need a cattleprod to remind them to behave well.
They can't control themselves, nobody is doing it for them, and they won't voluntarily behave well 24/7, all of which gets them into trouble and ruins America. They are feckless.

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Monday, December 18, 2023 1:33 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Our Congresspeople and "officials" need a cattleprod to remind them to behave well.
They can't control themselves, nobody is doing it for them, and they won't voluntarily behave well 24/7, all of which gets them into trouble and ruins America. They are feckless.

My Congressmen are Ted Cruz, John Cornyn, and Brian Babin. They are Republicans and none of them did a damn thing admirable as private citizens and they were worse once in government. I know Trumptards. They love to talk about how competent and farsighted they are but none of you ever anticipate problems before they become crises, not in your personal lives and definitely not in your politics. You Trumptards screw up yourselves and you want to expand into ruining other people's lives with your lack of wisdom and inability to foresee the obvious, whether it is climate change or Russia invading Europe after Ukraine, rehanging the old Iron Curtain:

Cruz, Cornyn vote down Ukraine aid
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/12/06/ted-cruz-john-cornyn-texas-ukr
aine-israel-border/

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Monday, December 18, 2023 1:43 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

How about a recap of SECOND'S endless diarrhea of the brain?

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?Ukraine has won a major victory over Russia

The net result of the ‘pushing back’ of the Black Sea Fleet to the east is that the water between the Ukrainian port of Odesa and Snake Island is now fairly safe for merchant shipping

Er, no. Russia could EASILY sink any ship with its extensive array of medium-range anti-ship missiles, and could easily mine the sea lanes. It doesn't bc being seen interfering with grain shipments would be bad politics with the "global south".

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[A]s Christopher Fettweiss and others have pointed out, the theory of Realism was falsified by events since the end of the Cold War. So-called Realism predicted that large states always seek to maximize their power and aggrandize their preeminence, but the Soviet Union voluntarily went out of existence.

Wow. That undercuts SECOND'S whole premise that Russia will inevitably invade Europe. Leave it to SECOND for an "own goal"!

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Russian Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Maria Zakharova emphasized that Russia's maximalist objectives in Ukraine have not changed, repeating the Kremlin’s demand for full Ukrainian political capitulation and Kyiv’s acceptance of Russia’s military and territorial demands rather than suggesting any willingness to negotiate seriously.

Demilitarization, de-Nazification, neutrality. How far they need to go to achieve these goals is up to the west. Russia was willing to negotiate in 2022. The west was not. The west STILL isn't ready to negotiate.

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Hazing ... In 2006, [ seventeen years ago ] as Lenta.ru reported, the then-prosecutor-general of Russia, Vladimir Ustinov, even admitted in a speech to President Vladimir Putin and his prosecutor colleagues that he “is unable to do anything about the criminality in the armed forces.”

The survivors of this hazing say the main goal is to break young men. They are turned into submissive, intimidated, and obedient drones who will not ask unnecessary questions nor show any independent thought or initiative.

You wouldn't know it by how their armed forces fight.

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Where the Russia-Ukraine war is headed in 2024
by Mark Temnycky [a Kiev functionary in the Atlantic Council]
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4350387-where-the-russia-ukr
aine-war-is-headed-in-2024/

To date, the U.S. has provided more than $46 billion in defense assistance to Ukraine and sent more than $26 billion in financial and humanitarian aid. The slow pace at arming Ukraine was alarming, and it may have prolonged the war.

The USA was stuffing Ukraine with weapons from 2014 onwards. If the collective west is no longer supplying weapons it's bc we have none to spare. Beating on us isn't going to make artillery shells and Patriot Systems and tanks magically appear. Russia was willing to negotiate in 2022. The west wasn't. The west STILL isn't ready to negotiate.

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US intelligence reportedly assessed that Russian offensive operations in eastern Ukraine in fall 2023 and through the upcoming winter aim to weaken Western support for Ukraine instead of achieving any immediate operational objectives.

Demilitarize, de-Nazify, neutrality. Russia was willing to negotiate in 2022. AFA western support: we can give Kiev money, but that won't solve their military problem bc they're running out of weapons and soldiers. Russia was ready to negotiate in 2022. The west wasn't. The west STILL isn't.

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The Kremlin appears to be returning to expansionist rhetoric last observed before Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in an effort to resurface its claims that Ukraine is part of historically Russian territory and discuss the borders Russian leaders regard as appropriate for a rump Ukrainian state.

Rusdia was willing to negotiate in 2022. The west coast wasn't. The west STILL isn't ready to negotiate. Since the west refused to honor previous agreements or negotiate a way forward, Russia has shifted to a military solution.

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There is a Path to Victory in Ukraine
The Delusions and Dangers of Defeatist Voices in the West
By Dmytro Kuleba [a Kiev functionary]

Thru Crimea??? Been there, tried that. All it did was lose Ukraine a
tons of armored vehicles and tens of thousands of soldiers.

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The Possessed
By Viktor Erofeyev (2001)
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2001/03/29/the-possessed/
Rasputin slumbers in the heart of every Russian.

Irrelevant psychological nonsense.

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Putin doubles down on war in Ukraine. ‘Victory will be ours.’

“There will be peace when we will achieve our goals,” President Vladimir Putin said concerning the Ukraine war. At an end-of-year conference on Dec. 14, the Russian president talked military strategy while reaffirming authority for his reelection campaign.

True. Russia was willing to negotiate in 2022. The west wasn't. The west STILL isn't ready to negotiate. We keep pushing for more weapons, more money, different tactics ... as long as we are committed to military action, Russia will continue militarily, and Russia will win.

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If you stop using insulin and stop replacing your diabetes monitor, you are dead. Again, if you stop, you ruin yourself and it is your fault.

I agree. 100%.

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I don't even understand why you posted this in your reply.

All it does is confirm that I agree 100% with what you posted about my alcoholism being my own fault.

I see what is wrong with you. There have been thousands of years of experience with alcoholism, so you could NOT be unaware of what you were doing before you became an alcoholic, but you drank for years despite that history. You most certainly lack something if you cannot anticipate what is going to happen and foolishly allow bad experiences to teach you what is already well known. The same is true of all of Russian history as it is true of all the history of alcohol. It is obvious that Russia and alcohol are problems. The entire record of both are two parallel stories of human suffering.

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How about a recap of SECOND'S endless diarrhea of the brain?

Er, no. Russia could EASILY sink any ship with its extensive array of medium-range anti-ship missiles, and could easily mine the sea lanes. It doesn't bc being seen interfering with grain shipments would be bad politics with the "global south".

Wow. That undercuts SECOND'S whole premise that Russia will inevitably invade Europe. Leave it to SECOND for an "own goal"!

Demilitarization, de-Nazification, neutrality. How far they need to go to achieve these goals is up to the west.

You wouldn't know it by how their armed forces fight.

The USA was stuffing Ukraine with weapons from 2014 onwards. If the collective west is no longer supplying weapons it's bc we have none to spare. Beating on us isn't going to make artillery shells and Patriot Systems and tanks magically appear.

Demilitarize, de-Nazify, neutrality. Russia was willing to negotiate in 2022. AFA western support: we can giveKiev money, but that won't solve their military problem bc they're running out of weapons and soldiers.

Rusdia was willing to negotiate last year. Since the west refused to honor previous agreements or negotiate a way forward, Russia has shifted to a military solution.

Thru Crimea??? Been there, tried that. All it did was lose Ukraine a
tons of armored vehicles and tens of thousands of soldiers.

True. Russia was willing to negotiate in 2022. Not any more.

Signym, Russia has killed about 100 million Russians since 1900 by incompetence at growing food, incompetence at making war, and incompetence at running a government. This is not what happens to normal, rational, sane people. And now the Russians are bringing their uniquely defective personalities to Ukraine.

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More diarrhea of the brain, SECOND? Are you saying that the Russian of today is the same as the Russia of 1900?
Man, you are stuck in some sort of fantasy, aren't you???

What will you do when reality catches up with you??

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More diarrhea of the brain, SECOND? Are you saying that the Russian of today is the same as the Russia of 1900?
Man, you are stuck in some sort of fantasy, aren't you???

What will you do when reality catches up with you??

The belief system that motivated Texans to join the Confederacy is very much alive in East Texas. If there weren't laws against it, slavery and Civil War murder would rampage across the former Confederate States of America. While America has changed for the better since 1900, Russia has failed to leave its horrifying past behind. This is why Russia continuously threatens to nuke the West, split Korea into North and South which is still killing millions of North Koreans, held on to Eastern Europe until the Soviet Union collapsed, held on to the Kuril Islands despite Japan demanding the return of the islands, and why Russia invaded Ukraine.

On February 7, 2023, the 168th anniversary of the 1855 Treaty of Shimoda, Japan reaffirmed its position that it considers the four islands to be illegally occupied by Russia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuril_Islands_dispute#Japan_reaffirms_it
s_position_that_the_islands_are_illegally_occupied

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Fuck Texas and Fuck you.

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Monday, December 18, 2023 6:40 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Yep!
SECOND is still stuck in fantasy-land!

*****

Why did Germans allow themselves to be screwed over by USA neocons and con-artist globalists?

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Monday, December 18, 2023 7:05 PM

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SnowStorm | Sumy Front | A Complete Mess On The Combat Contact Line. Military Summary For 2023.12.17

A Wiretap Was Found In Zaluzhny Office | Russians Attack Supply Routes. Military Summary 2023.12.18

SnowStorm | Ukraine Retreats From Novomykhailivka | Ivanivske Pincers. Military Summary 2023.12.18

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A combination of artillery ammunition shortages and delays in the provision of Western security assistance is likely causing Ukrainian forces to husband materiel and may delay future Ukrainian counteroffensive operations. Ukrainian Tavriisk Group of Forces Commander Brigadier General Oleksandr Tarnavskyi stated in an interview with Reuters published on December 18 that Ukrainian forces have shortages of 122mm and 152mm shells along the entire frontline.[1] Tarnavskyi stated that the shortages are prompting Ukrainian forces to redistribute artillery ammunition and replan military tasks.[2] Ukrainian Deputy Defense Minister General Ivan Havrylyuk also acknowledged on December 18 that Ukrainian artillery ammunition shortages will continue.[3] Tarnavskyi stated that Russian forces are also having issues with artillery ammunition, although Ukrainian and Western officials have reportedly assessed that the Russian forces are currently conducting artillery fire at a rate five to seven times greater than the Ukrainian forces.[4]

Both Russian and Ukrainian forces have likely expended large portions of their Soviet-era stocks of 122mm and 152mm artillery shells, forcing both to look abroad for other stocks of this artillery ammunition. Russia has recently received large quantities of these shells from North Korea, and Ukraine and its Western partners have engaged in efforts to source these shells from foreign stocks.[5] It is unclear what delays or impediments there may be in Ukrainian and Western efforts to source 122mm and 152mm shells and how any such delays may be contributing to current Ukrainian shortages. Ukrainian forces are increasingly using Western-provided 155mm artillery systems along the front, and possible delays in Western security assistance may impact available supplies of 155mm shells, although US assistance packages have recently included 155mm shells.[6] Havrylyuk stated that Ukraine is currently focusing on the domestic production of drones to offset artillery shortages and is planning to produce 155mm ammunition in Ukraine with Western companies in 2024.[7]

Artillery shortages and delays in Western security assistance will create uncertainty in Ukrainian operational plans and likely prompt Ukrainian forces to conserve resources, which may force Ukrainian forces to make tough decisions about prioritizing certain sectors of the front over sectors where limited territorial setbacks are least damaging. BBC’s Russian service reported that Ukrainian officials said that they make periodic changes to what could be considered rough operational plans for 2024 based on the situation at the front.[8] A Ukrainian official reportedly stated that it is difficult to make military calculations for these plans due to the significant reduction in Western aid to Ukraine since September 2023.[9] Tarnavskyi stated that Ukraine is preparing reserves for further large-scale actions.[10] Artillery shortages and delays in Western aid will very likely decrease Ukraine’s ability to plan and prepare for these actions. Delays in concrete Ukrainian operational planning and the materiel necessary for counteroffensive preparations will likely in turn delay 2024 counteroffensive operations.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
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Fuck Texas and Fuck you.

Wrong response from your vast repertoire of empty words from an empty drunk, temporarily dry. Instead, tell me that Trump will be the next President and he'll end the war in one day. How? He would never allow this to happen to Putin, the man who can blackmail Trump:

Give Russia’s Frozen Assets to Ukraine Now

Putin should pay for the damage his invasion has caused, and the money is needed immediately.

By Anne Applebaum | December 18, 2023, 6 AM ET

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/12/ukraine-russia-froze
n-assets/676390/

A majority of Americans and a majority of Congress want to help Ukraine win the war against Russia, and to stop the spread of autocracy into Europe. A majority of people in the European Union and a majority of EU leaders want the same. But small minorities of lawmakers — some inspired by Russian President Vladimir Putin or his money, some bent on bargaining for other things — have managed to block or delay that aid.

On both sides of the Atlantic, the crunch has arrived. The far-right faction that now controls the Republican Party captured the House last year and has successfully blocked a new spending bill for many months. The prime minister of Hungary, himself a de facto autocrat, is also blocking an EU financial package for Ukraine. Eventually the European prime ministers and the Biden administration alike may well do deals and allocate the money. But in the meantime — and just in case they fail — there is something else that American and European governments can do.

At the very beginning of the conflict, the U.S., the EU, the United Kingdom, and other democratic governments jointly froze more than $300 billion in Russian sovereign assets, mostly in Europe. This is money that Russia cannot sell or borrow against. Nor can Russia make use of any of the interest this money earns. At the time, many believed that the decision to freeze these assets would shock the Russian government into pulling back. That did not happen. After nearly two years, the countries that hold these assets — all of them — should take the next step and transfer the money to Ukraine.

Laurence Tribe, the American constitutional scholar, has been promoting this idea for some time. In September, he and a team of lawyers published a 187-page report making the “legal, practical, and moral case” for transferring Russian assets to Ukraine. https://rdi.org/articles/making-putin-pay/ The moral argument is the easiest: Russia should pay for the damage it has done to Ukraine. The fundamental legal case, Tribe told me, rests on the many treaties that Russia broke by invading Ukraine, destroying whole cities, murdering civilians, deliberately damaging power grids and grain storage. By doing so, Russia lost any standing to complain about the violation of its sovereignty or property rights, since it denies those to Ukraine.

In truth, we in the West already crossed that bridge when we froze the assets in the first place. “If you have the authority to freeze the assets,” Tribe told me, “you have taken them away from the sovereign that claimed to be their owner. Why should they now have to lie idle while a country is decimated?” The frozen assets would solve some of Ukraine’s immediate budgetary and financial problems. More important, $300 billion is a reasonable down payment on the reparations that Russia should pay to Ukraine. Russian money should rightly compensate Ukrainians for the harm that Russia has done, and help rebuild the Ukrainian infrastructure that Russia destroyed.

The strongest Western objections to transferring the frozen Russian money to Ukraine have been practical ones. Tribe cited an “inchoate concern that hegemony of the dollar will be threatened, and people’s willingness to park reserves in the U.S. and other Western countries will be jeopardized.” Some countries may fear that their own assets could be at risk if kept in Western financial institutions, and will instead place them in China or elsewhere. A handful of Europeans fear that redistributing the money would set a precedent, encouraging others to take their own national assets. A range of public officials, including former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers and former World Bank President Robert Zoellick as well as David Cameron, the new British foreign secretary and former prime minister, have nevertheless argued in favor of the seizure. There isn’t an alternative reserve currency to the dollar right now, or anywhere safe outside the Western-dominated financial system for investors to go. Besides, as Tribe’s report argues, “assisting Ukraine in its time of need is worth the speculative risk to the dollar.”

This part of the argument has more significance now than it did in September, when Tribe and his colleagues published their report, because the stakes for Ukraine are higher and the need to take risks is greater. The crisis in Western funding — a crisis caused, I repeat, by pro-Russian politicians and factions in our own societies, some of whom are coordinating their activity with Russia — is now acute. It is also visibly emboldening Putin, who last week gave a press conference restating his goal in Ukraine, which is the same as it was two years ago: the destruction of the Ukrainian state. The dysfunction in Washington and Brussels is bolstering Putin’s belief that he will win the war simply by waiting for the West to give up.

Handing $300 billion of Russian assets to Ukraine will put a dent in this confidence. It will show Putin that the West is willing to take creative, even unprecedented, measures to win the war. It will also be popular, not only in Ukraine but in the U.S. and Europe. Most people will intuitively understand the fairness of making Russia pay for its own acts of vandalism. Whatever reputational damage this transfer of assets might cause for the West, it is vanishingly small in comparison with the reputational damage that the West will suffer if Russia succeeds in conquering Ukraine. The sooner we make this decision, the more quickly the impact will be felt on the ground. What are we waiting for?

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Yep!
SECOND is still stuck in fantasy-land!

Signym, you will never stop dodging Russia's history of murdering a hundred million Russians, will you? Russians deny the full scope of their history because talking about it would make them the next victim of the Russian government. Russia killing 4 million Ukrainians in the Holodomor? Mentioning that in an overheard conversation will get a Russian imprisoned.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Holodomor

Russia has killed about 100 million Russians since 1900 by incompetence at growing food, incompetence at making war, and incompetence at running a government. This is not what happens to normal, rational, sane people. And now the Russians are bringing their uniquely defective personalities to Ukraine.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Russia+has+killed+about+100+million+Ru
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Here's a list of how many millions of babies have been murdered in the US since 1973.

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SECOND is still stuck in fantasy-land!

SECOND: Signym, you will never stop dodging Russia's history of murdering a hundred million Russians, will you?

I'm not dodging Russian history. I don't dodge AMERICAN history either, which is also full of injustices like the genocide of natives, slavery, and murder across the globe.

BUT I DONT BLAME AMERICANS FOR WHAT WAS DONE A GENERATION AGO. I DON'T BLAME TODAY'S AMERICANS FOR SLAVERY. I DON'T BLAME TODAY'S GERMANS FOR THE HOLOCAUST. I DON'T BLAME TODAY'S RUSSIANS FOR WHAT HAPPENED A CENTURY AGO.

Doing so is PROPAGANDA AND LIES. And I reject propaganda and lies from any direction. Even yours.

Blame people, blame a nation, blame the decisons-makers for what THEY are doing or have fone.

Identify the act you believe is criminal. Find EVIDENCE for your allegations.

Anything else is just lies, propaganda, and bullshit, and you know it.

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Tuesday, December 19, 2023 12:25 PM

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Im still trying to figure out what Russia has in mind. Officials are all singing the same tune: Ukraine's only way out is surrender. And they all seem confident.

A year ago, Russia would probably have negotiated.

Since NONE of their objectives (demilitarization, de-Nazification, neutrality, protection for Russian-speaking people) included TAKING TERRITORY, they agreed early on to setting aside the status of Luhansk, Donetsk, and Crimea in return for Ukrainian neutrality, protected by security guarantees from Russia and the west.

It would have been a sweet deal for Ukraine. Ukraine would have kept its borders, and even EU membership was open. But since westen objectives had nothing to do with Ukraine and everything to do with regime change in Russia and subsequent depredations by BlackRock etc., the west forced Ukraine to give up that deal and keep fighting.

"We will support you as long as it takes" BoJo said. "But if you accept this deal you can forget about security guarantees from us". A carrot and big, big stick.

I wouldn't be surprised if money changed hands, and oligarchs and officials were looking to cash in on the money flow. Shades of Afghanistan!

*****

Well, Russia has withstood sanctions and the Great Counteroffensive, and Ukraine's army broke against the Russian wall. Most of Russia's army isn't even at the front line. Local offensives ("active defense") IMHO are practice runs for when Russia TRULY goes on the offensive. They are testing which tactics and weapons work best against Ukrainian defense. Their plan, now, is to take a large part of Ukraine including Odessa and absorb it into Russia.

In turn, the USA has sent a three star general to directly oversee Kiev's military. I think that they are advising Ukraine to go on defense, build the equivalentof a "Surovikin line", and hold on thru next year's election while they rebuild yet another Ukrainian army. I'm sure Russia is planning for that. It may even work into Russian plans to slowly demilitarize NATO.

So Russia's envisioned outcome is a neutral, demilitarized, landlocked, "rump" Ukraine.

They still have eastern NATO nations to deal with, especially those American missile bases in Poland and Romania. I can't imagine us negotating in good faith with Russia over that (or anything) unless the entire USA government and functionaries are sacked, and that's not about to happen in my lifetime. But Russia might slowly pick the EU apart, negotiating concessions from individual nations. Those nations might be willing to give up some American installations, if they see the USA powerless in Ukraine. That will necessitate regime changes in Europe. Not gonna happen quickly.

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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yep!
SECOND is still stuck in fantasy-land!

SECOND: Signym, you will never stop dodging Russia's history of murdering a hundred million Russians, will you?

I'm not dodging Russian history. I don't dodge AMERICAN history either, which is also full of injustices like the genocide of natives, slavery, and murder across the globe.

BUT I DONT BLAME AMERICANS FOR WHAT WAS DONE A GENERATION AGO. I DON'T BLAME TODAY'S AMERICANS FOR SLAVERY. I DON'T BLAME TODAY'S GERMANS FOR THE HOLOCAUST. I DON'T BLAME TODAY'S RUSSIANS FOR WHAT HAPPENED A CENTURY AGO.

Doing so is PROPAGANDA AND LIES. And I reject propaganda and lies from any direction. Even yours.

Blame people, blame a nation, blame the decisons-makers for what THEY are doing or have fone.

Identify the act you believe is criminal. Find EVIDENCE for your allegations.

Anything else is just lies, propaganda, and bullshit, and you know it.

I'm guessing you have never visited East Texas or been around whites who live close to Indian Reservations. The Whites feel, but do not behave, as nasty as they were in the 19th century. What changed? The government changed. The Federal government, but not Texas state government, would punish those Whites if they did what they talked about doing.

The same is true in Germany. The rotten behavior of would-be or wanna-be Nazis in the 21st century would be severely punished. Those people are forced to behave themselves.

How about Russia? The people do NOT behave well. Why? Because the government never repudiated their rotten past, the Iron Curtain, stealing the Kuril Islands, setting up North Korea on land owned by Korea, the Holodomor in Ukraine, the Gulag everywhere, the constant threats to nuke the West, etc. The government has not punished anybody, or even taken down the statues of the criminals who ruled Russia. (In the US, the former Confederate states have a similar problem with Civil War statues honoring Civil War "heroes" who should have been hanged rather than allowed to live free. But at least they have not yet reinstated slavery or ended Blacks' voting rights because it was made illegal at the Federal level, but not at the state level.) The angry poor white trash of Texas would go fully back to the Antebellum Era if not for the Federal government forbidding it.

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More diarrhea of the brain, SECOND? Are you saying that the Russian of today is the same as the Russia of 1900?
Man, you are stuck in some sort of fantasy, aren't you???

What will you do when reality catches up with you??

- SIGNYM

Panic among Russian ranks as 'Mouse Fever' ravages troops

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/panic-among-russian-ranks-as-mo
use-fever-ravages-troops/ar-AA1lJFPr?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f5db32157b874d84a808afd697150c9c&ei=62

Laughing here comrade...

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Russian President Vladimir Putin is increasingly invoking the Kremlin's pre-invasion pseudo-historical rhetoric to cast himself as a modern Russian tsar and framing the invasion of Ukraine as a historically justified imperial reconquest. Putin addressed the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) Collegium on December 19 and largely reiterated boilerplate Kremlin rhetoric on the war in Ukraine by blaming NATO and the collective West for encroaching on Russia's borders and exculpated himself for issues faced by the Russian Armed Forces in Ukraine by deflecting the blame towards the Russian MoD bureaucracy.[1] Putin additionally lauded Russian battlefield operations and Russia's defense industrial base’s net output in 2023, furthering several of his standard talking points. Putin once again invoked the concept of "compatriots abroad" when discussing residents in "southeastern Ukraine" who, he asserted, have historical, cultural, and linguistic attachments to Russia, in order to justify the invasion of Ukraine on ideological grounds. ISW previously assessed that Putin rhetorically contextualized Russia's maximalist objectives in Ukraine within a wider framing of Russian "sovereignty" at Putin’s “Direct Line” event on December 14.[2] Putin notably claimed that while Russia is the sole guarantor of Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity, Russia will also not interfere in "territorial disputes" in western Ukraine, where he claimed that many residents want to return to either Poland, Romania, or Hungary, concluding that "history will put everything in its place."

Putin's claim that Russia can be the only true guarantor of Ukraine's sovereignty is not a new narrative. In a 2021 essay entitled "On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians," Putin similarly claimed that "true sovereignty of Ukraine is possible precisely in partnership with Russia."[3] In the same essay, Putin also utilized a pseudo-historical framework of Ukraine’s and Russia's relationship that essentially defines the lands of modern, sovereign Ukraine as either part of Malorossiya (Little Russia), Novorossiya (New Russia), or fragments of other historical empires.[4] This essay dismissed Ukraine's historical claim to its own sociocultural development, historical sovereignty, and territorial integrity, which the Russian Federation formally recognized and, indeed, guaranteed, in 1994.[5] During the December 19 Collegium Address, Putin further engaged with this pseudo-historical framing to suggest that western Ukraine is also not truly Ukrainian and claimed that Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin "gave it away" to Ukraine from pieces of Poland, Romania, and Hungary following the Second World War.[6] Putin baselessly claimed that people living in western Ukraine want to return to their "historical homeland," suggesting that western Ukraine could feasibly return to 17th-century conceptions of state borders and become parts of Poland, Romania, or Hungary. This statement suggests that Putin is selectively weaponizing facets of Eastern and Central European history as they suit his ideological line to further rhetorically strip Ukraine of its internationally recognized sovereignty.

Putin's MoD Collegium claims are rife with rhetorical contradictions and are dependent on tenuous historical allegories that fall apart when considered in different historical contexts. During a November 28 speech at the World Russian People's Council, Putin defined the concept of the "Russian World" (Russkiy Mir) as "all other peoples who have lived and are living in [Russia]," geographically defined as what belonged to Ancient Rus (Kyivan Rus), the Kingdom of Muscovy, the Russian Empire, the Soviet Union, and the contemporary Russian Federation, which suggests that Putin was broadly including parts of eastern European states such as Poland and Romania in this conception of the Russian World.[7] During the December 19 Collegium Address, however, Putin appeared to diverge from this maximalist interpretation of the Russian World by differentiating Poland, Romania, and Hungary as having their own historical claims to western Ukraine.[8] These contradictions emphasize the fact that Putin relies on historical narratives that intentionally ignore contemporary contexts when they are suitable to the Kremlin narrative. The contradictions also exhibit another known characteristic of Russian information operations, which is that Russian information operations often are not necessarily internally consistent with each other. Based on Putin's interpretation of eastern European history, the modern map of Europe could also ridiculously be redrawn with Poland and Sweden controlling the Baltic States and parts of Belarus and Russia, and the Russian borders extending to Alaska and the California coast.[9] One could also make an absurd and nonsensical argument that a revived Kingdom of Poland and Lithuania has rights to most of eastern Europe and parts of western Russia. Putin’s selective references to convenient historical “claims” reflect the facile nature of his narrative.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-december-19-2023

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Putin remains committed to the fantasy that the old Russian Empire can be recreated. That means neither Ukraine nor the rest of Europe will have peace until he and his political project are soundly defeated.

By Carl Bildt | Dec 19, 2023
Carl Bildt was Sweden’s foreign minister from 2006 to 2014 and prime minister from 1991 to 1994

https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/putin-russia-must-be-defe
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STOCKHOLM – In his annual press conference, Russian leader Vladimir Putin made it clear that he will be ready for a peace settlement with Ukraine only after he has achieved his goals, which have not changed since he launched his full-scale invasion on Feb. 24, 2022. He wants Ukraine to be demilitarized, meaning subjected to Russian military and security control of its territory; and he wants “denazification,” meaning Ukraine would be put under Russian political control. In other words, Russia would absorb Ukraine so that the latter ceases to exist as an independent nation-state.

Time and again, Putin has declared that there is no historical justification for Ukraine, since it comprises territories that were long held by the Russian Empire. But something similar can be said of countries across Europe today. Many previously fell under the yoke of the Ottoman, Austro-Hungarian, Wilhelmine, or Russian empires. And globally, the vast majority of the 193 countries that make up the United Nations became independent only in the aftermath of World War II. In the historical period that preoccupies Putin, many of today’s countries did not exist even in people’s imaginations.

The problem, for Putin, is that the age of empires is long gone. He stubbornly refuses to accept that we now live in the age of nation-states, with an international order organized around the UN Charter’s principle of territorial integrity, which prohibits any redrawing of national borders by force. Instead, he fantasizes about recreating the Russian Empire by swallowing up Ukraine and Belarus (followed, perhaps, by many other neighboring countries).

More at https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/putin-russia-must-be-defe
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Wednesday, December 20, 2023 10:53 AM

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I heard they found Putin crying in a closet.

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I heard they found Putin crying in a closet.

How old are you?
Four?

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Wednesday, December 20, 2023 9:29 PM

I heard they're going to find Zelensky dead in the closet... (yanno, because he's a closeted homosexual and child rapist)

Defying Biden’s plea, Congress skips town without passing aid for Ukraine, Israel

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/dec/20/defying-bidens-plea-c
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Thursday, December 21, 2023 7:19 AM

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I heard they're going to find Zelensky dead in the closet... (yanno, because he's a closeted homosexual and child rapist)

6ix, did you graduate from a Russian University class on how to write falsehoods? Or are you just naturally this way?

Moscow State University (MGU) is reportedly ending its master's program in “information and hybrid warfare” aimed at teaching students how to create information operations and conduct hybrid warfare, generating outrage from Russian propagandist Vladimir Solovyov. MGU Higher School of Telecommunications Dean Vitaly Tretyakov defended MGU’s decision to discontinue the master’s program on Solovyov’s show on December 18 because students graduating from the program would face difficulties finding employment abroad.[23] Tretyakov also argued that the master’s program, which offers a course in “special propaganda” (a Russian term for information and psychological operations), would threaten MGU’s reputation.[24] Solovyov dismissed Tretyakov’s explanations and questioned the patriotism of MGU’s students and faculty.[25] Solovyov praised the now-closing master’s program and noted that Russian universities need to teach “special propaganda” and combat Western narratives of history.[26] Former Duma Deputy Elena Panina echoed Solovyov’s support for the program and claimed that the Russian government should fund similar programs at various universities.[27] MGU announced the creation of the master’s program in 2022, the same year it admitted its first class of students, reportedly to teach and promote Russian objectives for the war in Ukraine.[28] MGU also is reportedly closing the program due to the low salaries of the professors teaching its courses and an ongoing scandal regarding faculty bribery.[29]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
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Thursday, December 21, 2023 7:41 AM

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To overstress the Kremlin’s training establishment and trigger a downward spiral in Russian military readiness, Ukrainian forces need to kill or maim at least 100,000 Russian troops in 2024, according to a recent assessment by the Estonian defense ministry.

“If undisrupted, Russia has the capacity to train approximately 130,000 troops every six months into cohered units and formations available for launching operations,” the Estonian defense ministry concluded.

260,000 fully-trained new recruits a year sustain a deployed force of around 420,000 troops. “Additional troops can be mobilized and pushed into Ukraine as untrained replacements, but these do not provide effective combat power,” the ministry in Tallinn estimated.

Kyiv should aim to inflict so many losses on Moscow that the Russian training system must increase output, by speeding up basic training. The less training a new recruit or draftee gets, the less value they have on the battlefield and the more likely they are themselves to become casualties.

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Thursday, December 21, 2023 7:50 AM

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When Ukraine’s summer counteroffensive ended this fall and Russia’s attempt to capture the eastern city of Avdiivka slowed to a bloody grind, a war of maneuver in Ukraine became a war of attrition.

It’s apparent neither Ukraine nor Russia possesses the excess combat power it would need to achieve a major breakthrough that swiftly and radically could alter the course of Russia’s 22-month wider war on Ukraine.

Instead, the ultimate winner might be the country that attrits enough of the enemy’s forces to cause a military-wide collapse. According to the Estonian defense ministry, Ukraine can ensure Russia’s defeat in 2025 by killing or maiming 100,000 Russian troops in 2024.

That’s a lot of Russians. But then, the Ukrainians have been killing ... a lot of Russians. According to the best estimates, Ukrainian troops so far have killed or wounded 315,000 Russian troops. That’s 172,000 per year.

“If undisrupted, Russia has the capacity to train approximately 130,000 troops every six months into cohered units and formations available for launching operations,” the Estonian defense ministry concluded.

260,000 fully-trained new recruits a year sustain a deployed force of around 420,000 troops. “Additional troops can be mobilized and pushed into Ukraine as untrained replacements, but these do not provide effective combat power,” the ministry in Tallinn estimated.

Kyiv should aim to inflict so many losses on Moscow that the Russian training system must increase output, by speeding up basic training. The less training a new recruit or draftee gets, the less value they have on the battlefield and the more likely they are themselves to become casualties.

This dynamic is on bloody display around Avdiivka, where the Ukrainian garrison has killed or wounded an estimated 13,000 attacking Russians—many of them minimally-trained draftees—in just two months.

Replacement troops with less preparation fight worse and die faster, requiring the training base further to speed up training. That in turn could lead to more losses, more quickly. Killing at least 100,000 Russians in 2024 could decrease the Russian training base’s output to just 80,000 fully-trained new recruits a year, according to Tallinn. Forcewide erosion could become irreversible.

This feedback loop of dead and injured Russians might be the most direct path to a Ukrainian victory. “By redoubling our military support efforts, the attrition pace of Russian manpower and particularly the associated military equipment is bound to accelerate to unsustainable levels for Russia,” the Estonians wrote.

Of course, the Ukrainians must kill 100,000 Russians while mitigating their own losses.

“Ukraine’s army expanded from 150,000 ground forces to over 700,000 in 2022,” according to the Estonian defense ministry. But Ukrainian forces have suffered nearly 200,000 casualties—dead and wounded—in 22 months.

“There was heavy attrition among experienced field officers and soldiers alike,” the Estonian ministry explained. With too few experienced staff officers, the Ukrainians have been unable to organize complex operations.

“The effective span of control of a brigade for offensive operations is therefore approximately two companies,” according to the Estonians. “The result is that the [Ukrainian military] plans and executes operations with a horizon of exploitation limited to approximately 1,200 meters.”

Ukraine’s foreign allies have trained more than 100,000 Ukrainian troops since Russia widened the war in February 2022. But the standard course for a Ukrainian trainee is just five weeks long. Basic training for U.S. Army recruits is 10 weeks—and those new soldiers also get months of additional training for their particular speciality.

“It is time for us to set new objectives, a new pace and a new standard of quality in training” for Ukrainian recruits and draftees, the Estonians advised. Expanded foreign training of Ukrainian troops should include intensive, 10-week courses for staff officers, so that Ukrainian brigades finally can begin fighting as brigades.

By killing Russian troops faster than the Kremlin can train good replacements while also boosting their own training efforts, Ukrainian forces could win the battle of attrition in 2024—and set conditions for successful offensives in 2025.

This requires endurance and patience by Ukraine and its allies. Patience the Kremlin doesn’t believe its enemies possess. “Russia’s regime remains confident that it has more resolve than we do, still believing it is able to outlast Ukraine and the Euro-Atlantic community,” the Estonian defense ministry warned.

“We are in the midst of a battle of wills,” the ministry added. But if the will is there, the way for Ukraine to win is clear: kill 100,000 Russians next year, and wait for the Russian armed forces to unravel.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/12/17/to-win-the-ukrainians
-must-kill-or-maim-100000-russians-in-2024/

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I heard they're going to find Zelensky dead in the closet... (yanno, because he's a closeted homosexual and child rapist)
6ix, did you graduate from a Russian University class on how to write falsehoods? Or are you just naturally this way?

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I heard they're going to find Zelensky dead in the closet... (yanno, because he's a closeted homosexual and child rapist)
6ix, did you graduate from a Russian University class on how to write falsehoods? Or are you just naturally this way?
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6ix, every time you or Signym post a comment, or Trump opens his mouth, you are showing me why you have so many personal problems. You think you are only expressing "opinions" or "facts," but you are only showing the malfunctionality that is causing your personal problems. Please don't deny you have a myriad of problems. I don't think you can make the connection (or don't want to because it's too painful) between what you are and what inevitably happens to you. You're all malfunctioning all the time.

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Thursday, December 21, 2023 1:00 PM

Blah, blah, blah....

We know dude. You're perfect, and so is every person who has ever voted Democrat. You're all going to live forever without any health issues because voting Democrat is the key to immortality and perfection.

Heard it already.

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Thursday, December 21, 2023 5:40 PM

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When Ukraine’s summer counteroffensive ~~ended~~ , ~~failed~~ WAS DEFEATED this fall and Russia’s attempt to capture the eastern city of Avdiivka slowed to a bloody grind, a war of ~~maneuver~~ attrition in Ukraine ~~became a war of attrition~~ CONTINUED.

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This dynamic is on bloody display around Avdiivka, where the Ukrainian garrison has killed or wounded an estimated 13,000 attacking Russians—many of them minimally-trained draftees—in just two months.

That's about 216 a day.

This sounds bogus. According to Ukrainian videos, their forces mostly attack with PFV drones. But bc the explosive power of most drones is limited, even the best drone operators can only manage 5-8 soldiers per day. You would need 30-40 drone operators plugging away day after day, EVERY day, only in the Avdiivka area, just to reach those figures. And that's not happening. Not even according to Kiev.

And then there are mines and the few anti-tank missiles. Russian tanks require 2-3 operators, depending on model. Tanks are often damaged and disabled by drone, but the operators escape. You'd have to hit a tank with an ATGM for a sure kill, and I've seen very few of those. You could have a total of 200 disabled tanks on the field (and I haven't seen anything like that number) but that doesn't mean 400-600 dead operators, and that doesn't come close to adding up to the number that Kiev is blathering about either.

So while I'm certain that Russia is taking losses ... this is war, after all ... I've been kind of keeping a mental tally of potentially dead Russians from Kiev's brag videos. My guesstimate is 50 dead Russians on a bad day, with 25 being more typical. Not 216 a day. That's ludicrous.

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But it looks like Ukraine is going on the defensive, which they should have done more than 6 months ago. It's far easier to defend than to attack. And ina war of attrition, the defender has the advantage.

Russia has a huge advantage in weapons and munitions. They're being sparing of their soldiers by preparing their targets with missiles, artillery, bombs, and drones before they send in infantry.
Missiles are good for distant, high-value targets (bunkers, command centers, large munitions and fuel depots, infrastructure and the like) and guided bombs and artillery are good for reducing fortifications, buildings etc. Drones are good for smaller targets - individual artillery pieces, radar dishes and communications relays, tanks, and APCs, trenches, squads, etc.

But IMHO preparation only works up to a point. It gets down to the individual soldier in a machine gun nest or foxhole, and only the infantry is useful.

Tanks seem to be last war's weapon. There are now so many anti-tank strategies - mines, drones, RPGs, ATGMs, etc etc., that they seem to be less and less useful on the battlefield.

Just my $0.02.

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Japan is reportedly preparing to revise its defense equipment export policy to backfill US stockpiles of Patriot missiles and UK artillery ammunition stores.[11] The Japanese government will reportedly meet on December 22 to finalize plans to allow for Japan’s first export of lethal military equipment since 1967, when Japan established its Three Principles on Arms Exports, which prohibits the export of defense equipment to countries party to a conflict.[12] The revision will reportedly allow Japanese manufacturers to export completed defense equipment to the country in which the manufacturing license for that weapon originated.[13] Japanese Patriot missiles exported to the US will help fill US stockpiles, allowing the US to send more Patriot missiles to Ukraine. The Financial Times (FT) reported on December 21 that Japan is also considering exporting 155mm artillery shells to the United Kingdom (UK) to indirectly aid Ukraine in a similar way.[14]

ISW has assessed that the collapse of Western aid would likely lead to the eventual collapse of Ukraine’s ability to hold off the Russian military and that the current positional war in Ukraine is not a stable stalemate because the current instable balance could readily be tipped in either direction by decisions made in the West.[5] Continued Western security assistance that empowers Ukrainian forces to repel ongoing and future Russian offensive efforts and to liberate more Ukrainian territory is the only course of action at this time that can make the Russian failure to achieve Putin’s maximalist objectives in Ukraine permanent.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
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Friday, December 22, 2023 6:09 AM

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Blah, blah, blah....

We know dude. You're perfect, and so is every person who has ever voted Democrat. You're all going to live forever without any health issues because voting Democrat is the key to immortality and perfection.

Heard it already.

You always bring up the word "perfect". That is where typical Trumptard thinking goes wrong. Think of it more like driving a car, which does not require perfection, but only requires drivers to not make fatal mistakes. Trumptards make fatal mistakes often, but unlike in driving, their deaths are time delayed by months or years.

If it is smoking, death from cancer is delayed, not immediate. If it is a Trumptard marriage, the death of the marriage is delayed by the amount of time the wife can tolerate her husband's mistakes. If it is a Trumptard business, the death of the business is delayed by the time customers can tolerate the business mistakes the owner makes. If a career, the death of the career is delayed only by the tolerance of the boss for the Trumptard employee's mistakes.

Russia has made a mistake by invading Ukraine. Putin is calculating that he will be dead from old age before the delay is over. See the collapse of the Soviet Union from Gorbachev's mistakes for what can happen to Russia once the time delay is over between Putin's mistakes and Russia's fate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Gorbachev#1931%E2%80%931950:_chi
ldhood

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The Kremlin accused the Wall Street Journal of publishing “pulp fiction” on Friday after it reported that the death of mercenary boss Yevgeny Prigozhin in a plane crash had been orchestrated by Russian security official Nikolai Patrushev.

The WSJ reported that Prigozhin’s private plane was downed by a small bomb placed under a wing, citing interviews with Western intelligence agencies, former US and Russian security and intelligence officials, and former Kremlin officials. The report also said the Kremlin’s denial of involvement and Putin’s suggestion that a hand grenade had detonated onboard were false.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said he had seen the story but would not comment on it, before adding: “Lately, unfortunately, the Wall Street Journal has been very fond of producing pulp fiction.”

The Journal said the assassination was two months in the making and approved by Putin’s ally and former spy, Nikolai Patrushev, according to Western intelligence officials and a former Russian intelligence officer.

“On the tarmac of a Moscow airport in late August, Yevgeny Prigozhin waited on his Embraer Legacy 600 for a safety check to finish before it could take off,” the report said.

“Through the delay, no one inside the cabin noticed the small explosive device slipped under the wing. When the jet finally left, it climbed for about 30 minutes to 28,000 feet, before the wing blew apart, sending the aircraft spiraling to the ground.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/dec/22/russia-ukraine-war-
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Friday, December 22, 2023 10:04 AM

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Blah, blah, blah....

We know dude. You're perfect, and so is every person who has ever voted Democrat. You're all going to live forever without any health issues because voting Democrat is the key to immortality and perfection.

Heard it already.
You always bring up the word "perfect".

Because perfection is how you portray yourself.

Write a better character.

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Friday, December 22, 2023 3:39 PM

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It's amazing how often SECOND drags the thread off topic. It's almost as if he's trying to bury it.

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Friday, December 22, 2023 10:58 PM

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I had to snicker

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Friday, December 22, 2023 11:14 PM

$4.99? What a ripoff.

Even in 2023 toilet paper and kindling are a lot cheaper than that price.

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