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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 11:42 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/23/world/europe/putin-speech-russia-uk
raine.html


Word by Word and Between the Lines: A Close Look at Putin’s Speech


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Thursday, February 24, 2022 2:33 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Hey. There he is.

Ted's been crying since you've been gone.

How's the first terrible year of Biden*'s horrible presidency treating you?


P.S.

Barack Obama is President: Putin invades Crimea.

Donald Trump is President: Putin doesn't do shit.

Joe Biden* is President: Putin invades Ukraine.

One of these things is not like the other.

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 2:34 PM

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Well get ready because China is going to move next, and keep an eye on Iran

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 2:55 PM

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November can't come fast enough.

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 4:07 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Barack Obama is President: Putin invades Crimea.

Donald Trump is President: Putin doesn't do shit.

Joe Biden* is President: Putin invades Ukraine.

One of these things is not like the other.

Putin is a thug; Ukraine is more or less blameless in all this; Donald Trump should be ashamed of himself; ditto for much of the Republican Party and its poltroonish "Putin is only doing this because Biden is weak" crap; every Western country should toss out Russian nationals and restrict visitor visas to one week; Europe needs to get more serious about military power; this is the first major European war in which one country has invaded another with the intent of permanently taking its territory.

Russia under Putin is a pariah nation. Whatever else you can say about the US invasion of Iraq—and you can say plenty—it was never an attempt to annex territory permanently. This is. Russia needs to be isolated from the rest of the world as long as it pursues this kind of war.

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 4:36 PM

THG


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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.






Hey G. Can you stick around a bit? It would be so so good to have another sane person keeping tabs on this. Also, its' good to see you're good.

T



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Thursday, February 24, 2022 8:34 PM

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Yes. Please. Stick around G. One more screaming and crying voice to watch fall apart when November comes around and Democrats are never in power again.

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 9:41 PM

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I thought pizmo beach was in CA. Maybe it's actually in Ukraine. Which explains a lot.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 9:49 AM

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I thought pizmo beach was in CA. Maybe it's actually in Ukraine. Which explains a lot.



I think heard somewhere that Putin has been captured by Ukrainian special ops.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 9:54 AM

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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.






Hey G. Can you stick around a bit? It would be so so good to have another sane person keeping tabs on this. Also, its' good to see you're good.

T





Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.

You might think this is a satirical story from The Onion, but it is the New York Times:

Putin Threatens Nuclear War Against The Planet, As Experts Question His Sanity

Putin made clear his true target is America’s “empire of lies,” and he threatened “consequences you have never faced in your history” for “anyone who tries to interfere with us.”

Given Russia’s nuclear arsenal, he said, “there should be no doubt that any potential aggressor will face defeat and ominous consequences should it directly attack our country.” He added: “All necessary decisions have been taken in this regard.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20220225074515/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/02/24/world/europe/us-putin-nuclear-war-nato.html


Somebody needs to talk to Putin like Mal talked to the Operative in Serenity: "You do that, best make peace with your dear and fluffy lord."

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Friday, February 25, 2022 10:48 AM

WHOZIT


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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.

You might think this is a satirical story from The Onion, but it is the New York Times:

Putin Threatens Nuclear War Against The Planet, As Experts Question His Sanity

Putin made clear his true target is America’s “empire of lies,” and he threatened “consequences you have never faced in your history” for “anyone who tries to interfere with us.”

Given Russia’s nuclear arsenal, he said, “there should be no doubt that any potential aggressor will face defeat and ominous consequences should it directly attack our country.” He added: “All necessary decisions have been taken in this regard.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20220225074515/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/02/24/world/europe/us-putin-nuclear-war-nato.html


Somebody needs to talk to Putin like Mal talked to the Operative in Serenity: "You do that, best make peace with your dear and fluffy lord."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Bull, when the war is over in Ukraine in a few weeks the EU will want to be friends with Vlad again and he knows this.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by whozit:

Bull, when the war is over in Ukraine in a few weeks the EU will want to be friends with Vlad again and he knows this.

I think Ukraine has already lost. The President of Ukraine just hasn't fled, yet, but this guy was NOT ready. Even last week he would not admit war was about to happen to him.

The governments of the EU which are actually controlled by the richest 1% of population will very possibly want to be friends with Putin, next year, because to permanently stop trading with Russia would reduce the wealth of the 1% wealthiest. As for the rest of voters, they don't want the high fuel prices and shortages caused by not trading with Russia, and they will express themselves when voting.

To see EU actually blow up the Kremlin and Putin? That would be too disruptive for EU to even think about it. They'd worry about who'd replace Putin. Much easier for America to give some anti-tank weapons to Ukraine and the EU be disappointed when Ukrainian soldiers use a few of the missiles and then resell the rest for a profit after fleeing Ukraine.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 11:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.






Hey G. Can you stick around a bit? It would be so so good to have another sane person keeping tabs on this. Also, its' good to see you're good.

T





Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.





I hear you G. Truth be told I could chose to leave tomorrow, but for today I’m here.

I have long dispelled any notion of a firefly reboot G but with Disney now owning it there is hope. Disney is up to its neck in space shows. If it is rebooted this site will bang back to life unless all that are left are trolls. If there is to be a reboot it may not be too long off. Pushing back against the trolls may be what’s needed at the moment to allow a fireflyfans reboot as well.


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Friday, February 25, 2022 12:17 PM

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I think Ukraine has already lost. The President of Ukraine just hasn't fled, yet, but this guy was NOT ready. Even last week he would not admit war was about to happen to him.

The governments of the EU which are actually controlled by the richest 1% of population will very possibly want to be friends with Putin, next year, because to permanently stop trading with Russia would reduce the wealth of the 1% wealthiest. As for the rest of voters, they don't want the high fuel prices and shortages caused by not trading with Russia, and they will express themselves when voting.

To see EU actually blow up the Kremlin and Putin? That would be too disruptive for EU to even think about it. They'd worry about who'd replace Putin. Much easier for America to give some anti-tank weapons to Ukraine and the EU be disappointed when Ukrainian soldiers use a few of the missiles and then resell the rest for a profit after fleeing Ukraine.



That's the spirit, second!

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Friday, February 25, 2022 12:18 PM

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‘This might be the last time you see me alive,’ Ukrainian president says.

Zelenskyy said in the same speech that he was “target No. 1” for Russian forces.

Zelenskyy said his family was target No. 2.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-ukraine-live-updates-this-
might-be-the-last-time-you-see-me-alive-ukrainian-president-says/ar-AAUax9O


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Friday, February 25, 2022 12:48 PM

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I hear you G. Truth be told I could chose to leave tomorrow, but for today I’m here.

I have long dispelled any notion of a firefly reboot G but with Disney now owning it there is hope. Disney is up to its neck in space shows. If it is rebooted this site will bang back to life unless all that are left are trolls. If there is to be a reboot it may not be too long off. Pushing back against the trolls may be what’s needed at the moment to allow a fireflyfans reboot as well.



1. Disney destroys everything it touches. If Disney reboots firefly, it won't have more than one season, and this time it will be well earned.

2. You need to get it out of your head that you are special or important. You are neither. None of us are. Nobody here is keeping a Firefly reboot from being made, and nobody here is going to do anything to make sure that one is made.

3. If this site stays up for the long haul, history will show that you were on the wrong side the whole time. You are not the good guy.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 1:05 PM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

That's the spirit, second!

It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:

UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/25/sport/champions-league-final-russia-ukr
aine-sport-reaction-spt-intl/index.html


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Why the US won’t send troops to Ukraine

In 1990, Iraq invaded Kuwait in a naked war of territorial aggression. The next year, the US and an allied coalition intervened under the auspices of the United Nations Security Council, repulsing the Iraqi invasion. Today, as Russia is engaged in a similar aggressive war against Ukraine, there is no similar American effort in the offing — even as Ukrainian leaders have pleaded for Western assistance. Not gonna get it.

There are many dissimilarities between the situations in 1991 and 2022, but the biggest one is this: Saddam Hussein, rather famously, did not have nuclear weapons. Vladimir Putin has approximately 6,000 of them. And that makes all the difference.

Both before the invasion and afterward, the Biden administration has consistently ruled out the deployment of US troops. “Let me say it again: Our forces are not — and will not — be engaged in the conflict with Russia in Ukraine,” the president said in a Thursday address. Despite the warnings of American involvement from commentators on the Trumpist right and “anti-imperialist” left, there are no signs of this policy changing. Nuclear weapons are the chief reason why.

The logic of mutually assured destruction that defined the Cold War still works, to some degree: Russia’s arsenal makes any direct intervention in Ukraine riskier than any rational American leader could tolerate. In a sense, then, Russia’s nuclear weapons make it less likely that the conflict will kick off World War III.

But in another sense, Russia’s nuclear arsenal also helped create the conditions where Putin’s invasion could happen in the first place.

Political scientists call this the “stability-instability paradox,” the notion that nuclear deterrence has had the paradoxical effect of making certain kinds of conventional warfare more likely. Russia can be relatively confident that the United States and its allies won’t come to Ukraine’s defense directly, because such a clash carries the threat of nuclear war. This could make Putin more confident that his invasion could succeed.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2022/2/25/22949351/ukraine-rus
sia-us-troops-no-fly-zone-nuclear-weapons


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Friday, February 25, 2022 1:34 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:

‘This might be the last time you see me alive,’ Ukrainian president says.

Zelenskyy said in the same speech that he was “target No. 1” for Russian forces.

Zelenskyy said his family was target No. 2.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-ukraine-live-updates-this-
might-be-the-last-time-you-see-me-alive-ukrainian-president-says/ar-AAUax9O







If they get him, it is because he is an ass. Everybody but him seemed to realize you can't set up shop in a city that can be quickly taken over. That same stupidity kept him telling his people Russia won't invade. At first maybe to keep calm but even then, he should have had them prepare.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 1:58 PM

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He should find out where Justin Trudeau was hiding for weeks.

One of the safest places on the planet.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 2:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:
UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.



I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 4:14 PM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.

Less symbolism and more materialism, if the EU was not pouring HUGE quantities of money into Russia, Putin wouldn't feel invulnerable.

Putin believes the EU will keep buying his Russian brand of fuel. If Putin's belief is correct, he can invade Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania and only expect more symbolism from the EU. The EU is gonna have to decide whether to either say goodbye to the Baltic States or goodbye to Russian fuel. If Putin is right and the EU will not cut back on fuel purchases than the EU can only fight him with more symbolism, and more words, and more refugees from Ukraine. I'm absolutely sure Putin will be pleased to send the EU many more refugees who don't speak Russian as their first language.

Russia’s economy is highly dependent on exports of commodities with revenues from sales of crude oil, petroleum products, and natural gas accounting for about a half of Russia’s federal budget. Russia’s main exports are: fuels and energy products (63 percent of total shipments) . . .

https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/exports

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Friday, February 25, 2022 7:05 PM

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I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. . . .

News from Feb 25, 2022 -- Question marks surround the U.S.-licensed Haas team, which has connections to Russia through its title sponsor Uralkali and driver Nikita Mazepin, a Russian-born driver who joined Haas in 2021. Mazepin’s father Dmitry, who controls the Uralkali firm that specializes in potash fertilizer, is a close confidant of Putin. Mazepin, 22, drove the car on Friday morning but did so in an all-white livery after its red and blue, which drew comparisons to the Russian flag, was removed.
https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a39222996/haas-f1-team-sudde
nly-headache-russian-connections
/

I'm sure Putin doesn't care if some Russian kid drives, or doesn't. If a million Russian drivers couldn't race, it still wouldn't make Putin even blink at leaving Ukraine.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 11:38 PM

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Originally posted by second:
It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:
UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.



I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.





They've sanctioned Putin directly now which is unheard of. It makes the statement that they are done politically with him. That he is illegit. That's huge, and they are close to shutting down any commutations between Russia and any financial institutions outside of Russia. Again, that's huge.

Putin annexed both Crimea and Georgia and it was a cake walk. Neither of them nor the world fought back. He could not have seen this shit coming.

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Saturday, February 26, 2022 12:24 AM

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If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

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Saturday, February 26, 2022 8:03 AM

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If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.


Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.


Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.






I reject your premise that we need bullies and corrupt bad guys to deal with their bullies and corrupt bad guys. I further reject your premise that Russia China and Iran can take over half the world unless they currently hold that much territory. Their expansionism will be checked. Especially now since they are seeing the consequences Russia is and are going to suffer.

So far, it’s said the Russians have lost 14 planes, 8 helicopters, 102 tanks, 536 BBM, armored combat vehicles, 15 heavy machine guns, and 1 BUK missile since Feb. 24, according to Ukraine's military. The Kremlin also lost over 3,500 soldiers. Remember, this does not include the sanctions, and China is watching.

They’re getting their clocks cleaned by an army with half their resources and training. China is even less capable of actual fighting. Iran and North Korea are little more than an irritant. As for America being to woke to fight back, think again.

Without firing a shot America and our allies have helped Ukraine shame the Russian army. If Putin wants he’ll commit the rest of his troops and shut the active war down but the Ukrainian army has sent a chilling message to Moscow. And it is prepared to fight as an insurgency going forward.

You want to talk about woke? Europe has been woke. Reminded why they stand united as NATO. It’s one of the biggest consequences of Russia’s behavior. NATO now has a huge new commitment to sustaining, improving and expanding.

tick tock


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Saturday, February 26, 2022 10:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

You're such a drama queen, 6ix. 6ix probably doesn't understand SWIFT. What is it?

The Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT) was founded in 1973 to replace the telex and is now used by over 11,000 financial institutions to send secure messages and payment orders. With no globally accepted alternative, it is essential plumbing for global finance.

Removing Russia from SWIFT would make it much harder for financial institutions to send money in or out of the country, delivering a sudden shock to Russian companies and their foreign customers — especially buyers of oil and gas exports denominated in US dollars.

What happens if Russia is removed from SWIFT?

There is precedent for removing a country from SWIFT.

SWIFT unplugged Iranian banks in 2012 after they were sanctioned by the European Union over the country’s nuclear program. Iran lost almost half of its oil export revenue and 30% of foreign trade following the disconnection, according to Shagina.

Senior Russian lawmakers have said that shipments of oil, gas and metals to Europe would stop.

“If Russia is disconnected from SWIFT, then we will not receive foreign currency, but buyers, European countries in the first place, will not receive our goods — oil, gas, metals and other important components,” Nikolai Zhuravlev, vice speaker of Russia’s upper house of parliament, said last week, according to state media outlet TASS.

More at https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/25/business/swift-russia-putin

6ix, without SWIFT, Europe and Russian trade would switch to bartering rather than payments in money. But the bartering could be cut off by closing railroads and pipelines from Russia, which takes more physical effort than disconnecting Russia from SWIFT.

Russia has taken steps in recent years to blunt the trauma should it be removed from SWIFT.

Moscow established its own payment system, SPFS, after it was hit by Western sanctions in 2014 following its annexation of Crimea. SPFS now has around 400 users, according to Russia’s central bank. Twenty percent of domestic transfers are currently done through SPFS, according to Shagina, but the size of messages are limited and operations are limited to weekday hours.

China’s fledgling Cross-Border Interbank Payment System, or CIPS, may provide another alternative to SWIFT. Moscow could also be forced to resort to using cryptocurrencies.

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Saturday, February 26, 2022 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by THG:
I reject your premise that we need bullies and corrupt bad guys to deal with their bullies and corrupt bad guys. I further reject your premise that Russia China and Iran can take over half the world unless they currently hold that much territory. Their expansionism will be checked. Especially now since they are seeing the consequences Russia is and are going to suffer.

So far, it’s said the Russians have lost 14 planes, 8 helicopters, 102 tanks, 536 BBM, armored combat vehicles, 15 heavy machine guns, and 1 BUK missile since Feb. 24, according to Ukraine's military. The Kremlin also lost over 3,500 soldiers. Remember, this does not include the sanctions, and China is watching.

They’re getting their clocks cleaned by an army with half their resources and training. China is even less capable of actual fighting. Iran and North Korea are little more than an irritant. As for America being to woke to fight back, think again.

Without firing a shot America and our allies have helped Ukraine shame the Russian army. If Putin wants he’ll commit the rest of his troops and shut the active war down but the Ukrainian army has sent a chilling message to Moscow. And it is prepared to fight as an insurgency going forward.

You want to talk about woke? Europe has been woke, reminded why they stand united as NATO. It’s one of the biggest consequences of Russia’s behavior. NATO now has a huge new commitment to sustaining, improving and expanding.

tick tock




Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other, more coldly practical hand, it might be easier and a hell of a lot less deadly to hope for a swift capture of Ukraine so A) fighting would stop, and B) sanctions and the corner that Putin has put himself into will just get darker and darker until some able bodied Russian puts a slug in his head.

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Saturday, February 26, 2022 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.


Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.



Do you know how much junk the US buys from China? A hell of a lot more than Russia does. I personally sent a lot of money to China via Amazon over the last 2 years. They're not cutting us off any time soon.

And Iran? Really?

And why do Trump people watch so much CNN? I don't get it.

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Saturday, February 26, 2022 10:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
I reject your premise that we need bullies and corrupt bad guys to deal with their bullies and corrupt bad guys. I further reject your premise that Russia China and Iran can take over half the world unless they currently hold that much territory. Their expansionism will be checked. Especially now since they are seeing the consequences Russia is and are going to suffer.

So far, it’s said the Russians have lost 14 planes, 8 helicopters, 102 tanks, 536 BBM, armored combat vehicles, 15 heavy machine guns, and 1 BUK missile since Feb. 24, according to Ukraine's military. The Kremlin also lost over 3,500 soldiers. Remember, this does not include the sanctions, and China is watching.

They’re getting their clocks cleaned by an army with half their resources and training. China is even less capable of actual fighting. Iran and North Korea are little more than an irritant. As for America being to woke to fight back, think again.

Without firing a shot America and our allies have helped Ukraine shame the Russian army. If Putin wants he’ll commit the rest of his troops and shut the active war down but the Ukrainian army has sent a chilling message to Moscow. And it is prepared to fight as an insurgency going forward.

You want to talk about woke? Europe has been woke, reminded why they stand united as NATO. It’s one of the biggest consequences of Russia’s behavior. NATO now has a huge new commitment to sustaining, improving and expanding.

tick tock




Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other, more coldly practical hand, it might be easier and a hell of a lot less deadly to hope for a swift capture of Ukraine so A) fighting would stop, and B) sanctions and the corner that Putin has put himself into will just get darker and darker until some able bodied Russian puts a slug in his head.





An equally cold assessment G is, the longer it goes on Russia’s military loses more of its assets which is better for Europe. And in the long run the world. If the reports of what they’ve lost so far are true, that’s massive.

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other . . .

I don't think NATO does that sort of thing. NATO writes:

NATO’s success was reflected in the fact that, throughout the entire period of the Cold War, NATO forces were not involved in a single military engagement.

NATO’s first military operation -- In August 1995, NATO launched Operation Deliberate Force to compel an end to Serb-led violence in Bosnia-Herzegovina (BiH). This successful air campaign paved the way to the signing of the Dayton Peace Accords in December 1995. https://www.nato.int/summit2009/topics_en/02-introduction_to_nato_oper
ations.html


Since Bosnia-Herzegovina, NATO has tried a few military missions, but NATO has never before taken on a force as big as Russia. Since USA refuses to attempt to do the job, NATO forces won't step in. The job is too big for NATO.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_52060.htm



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Saturday, February 26, 2022 10:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.


Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.



Do you know how much junk the US buys from China? A hell of a lot more than Russia does. I personally have sent a lot of money to China via Amazon over the last 2 years. They're not cutting us off any time soon.

And Iran? Really?

And why do Trump people watch so much CNN? I don't get it.





Agreed G. Russias’ GDP was $1.638 trillion in 2021. The European Union's GDP was estimated to be $18.8 trillion in 2018. Add to that the U.S. gross domestic product which was $23.9 trillion for the fourth quarter of 2021. Why the fuck would China go full bore with backing Russia? They’ve got their own problems and their desperate not to make their situation worse. America is China's economy.

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Saturday, February 26, 2022 11:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other . . .

I don't think NATO does that sort of thing. NATO writes:

NATO’s success was reflected in the fact that, throughout the entire period of the Cold War, NATO forces were not involved in a single military engagement.

NATO’s first military operation -- In August 1995, NATO launched Operation Deliberate Force to compel an end to Serb-led violence in Bosnia-Herzegovina (BiH). This successful air campaign paved the way to the signing of the Dayton Peace Accords in December 1995. https://www.nato.int/summit2009/topics_en/02-introduction_to_nato_oper
ations.html


Since Bosnia-Herzegovina, NATO has tried a few military missions, but NATO has never before taken on a force as big as Russia. Since USA refuses to attempt to do the job, NATO forces won't step in. The job is too big for NATO.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_52060.htm

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Agreed. It would be a mistake. I remember them from Bosnia-Herzegovina times. They seemed mostly a deterrent - bodies in uniforms - than an actual fighting force. I would not trust them to win any ground.

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Saturday, February 26, 2022 11:44 AM

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Guy tries to stop convey with his body.

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Saturday, February 26, 2022 11:48 AM

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All these years exposing Signym as a commie bastard and now she has no place to hide. And let's not forget Polish Russian Collaborator 1kiki who's hiding under a rock somewhere.

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Saturday, February 26, 2022 6:03 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:
UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.



I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.





They've sanctioned Putin directly now which is unheard of. It makes the statement that they are done politically with him. That he is illegit. That's huge, and they are close to shutting down any commutations between Russia and any financial institutions outside of Russia. Again, that's huge.

Putin annexed both Crimea and Georgia and it was a cake walk. Neither of them nor the world fought back and because of that he could not have seen this shit coming.

T





Here we go baby. The knockout punch. Russian banks cut off from SWIFT. The world has had enough of this guy. Watch the video. It's not long and wow, there is a finality in her speech about Russia's future.

Hey comrades signym and kiki what do you think, will Putin's own people will put a bullet in his head? The sooner the better I say.

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"It is outrageous, if unsurprising, that Trump would praise Putin’s murderous invasion of Ukraine as an act of 'genius.' It should concern us all that Putin is exactly the kind of leader Trump would like to be, and that so few Republicans have the courage to say this out loud."
- SEN. BERNIE SANDERS

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bernie-sanders-scolds-trump-putin-pra
ise-unsurprising


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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Here we go baby. The knockout punch. Russian banks cut off from SWIFT. The world has had enough of this guy. Watch the video. It's not long and wow, there is a finality in her speech about Russia's future.

Hey comrades signym and kiki what do you think, will Putin's own people will put a bullet in his head? The sooner the better I say.




I love that video! She’s not fcking around.

Here’s another. America IS in the war, even if remotely. American made Javelin tank killers.



“Holy shit!” God bless America.

Fwiw - Every US citizen should think about Ruski retaliation. Especially if fckhd gets more desperate. Cyber disruption, which means electric grid attacks, etc. Their tanks may be rolling death traps, but they have great hackers. Trust me!

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Saturday, February 26, 2022 9:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Here we go baby. The knockout punch. Russian banks cut off from SWIFT. The world has had enough of this guy. Watch the video. It's not long and wow, there is a finality in her speech about Russia's future.

Hey comrades signym and kiki what do you think, will Putin's own people will put a bullet in his head? The sooner the better I say.




I love that video! She’s not fcking around.

Here’s another. America IS in the war, even if remotely. American made Javelin tank killers.



“Holy shit!” God bless America.

Fwiw - Every US citizen should think about Ruski retaliation. Especially if fckhd gets more desperate. Cyber disruption, which means electric grid attacks, etc. Their tanks may be rolling death traps, but they have great hackers. Trust me!





I going to post my response to you G and then watch the video again.

Holy shit is right. At last count yesterday the Ukrainians took out 102 Russian tanks. After watching that demonstration it’s no wonder. They also took out over 500 armored personal carriers. Putin has to be shitting himself. He’s watching his army dissolve right in front of his eyes. I’ve heard it from different professional sources that the Russian military is scared shitless of our military. It's easy to see why.

As far as the hackers go, I was surprised like most he hasn’t used them more. Turns out the Russian military needs to use many of those same services themselves; go figure.


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“Simpsons” showrunner, Al Jean, spoke to The Hollywood Reporter: "I hate to say it, but I was born in 1961, so 30 years of my life were lived with the specter of the Soviet Union. So, to me, this is sadly more the norm than it is the prediction," Jean observed. "We just figured things were going to go bad."

"Historical aggression never really goes away, and you have to be super vigilant," he continued.

He offered up a more in-depth explanation: "In 1998, when this clip aired, it was maybe the zenith of U.S.-Russia relations. But, ever since [Russian President Vladimir] Putin got in, almost everybody has made it clear that he’s a bad guy and bad things are going to happen. There is the kind of prediction, where we reference something that has happened, happening again — we hope it wouldn’t, but sadly, it does."

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/simpsons-al-jean-says
-russia-ukraine-prediction-not-coincidental-1235099000
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Putin's getting his H-bombs ready

Putin warned last week that countries who interfere with his invasion of Ukraine will face "consequences you have never seen."

Putin ordered the Russian defense minister and the chief of the military's General Staff to put the nuclear deterrent forces in a "special regime of combat duty." The move signals tensions could boil over into a nuclear war.

Putin spoke at a meeting Sunday with his top advisers and said NATO powers had made "aggressive statements" and that the West was imposing hard-hitting financial sanctions against Russia and himself.

"Western countries aren’t only taking unfriendly actions against our country in the economic sphere, but top officials from leading NATO members made aggressive statements regarding our country," Putin said in televised comments.

U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Linda Thomas-Greenfield said Sunday on CBS's "Face the Nation" that Putin's order is an unacceptable escalation.

"It means that President Putin is continuing to escalate this war in a manner that is totally unacceptable and we have to continue to stem his actions in the strongest possible way," she said.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/putin-orders-nuclear-deterrent-forces-be
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Trump at CPAC calls Putin ‘smart,' Ukraine attack a ‘travesty,’ and Biden ‘dumb’

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Yeah. But what about Covid?

--------------------------------------------------

Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Yeah. But what about Covid?

On one hand: “Nobody dies of Covid.” - 6ixStringJack
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64782&mid=11496
47#1149647


On the other hand: 972,956 are dead.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

On the third hand: my United States Congressman Brian Babin, D.D.S., Proudly Serving The 36rd District of Texas wrote me an email on Sunday that says nobody dies of Covid but Ukraine is all Biden’s fault. I’m beginning to think this D.D.S. is not a very good dentist. Reading all the way to end of his loony email, I can tell this dentist is addicted to laughing gas.

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Sunday, February 27, 2022 3:02 PM

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Yup. Nobody dies of Covid.

Just wondering why the Media isn't terrorizing dummies like you about it anymore now that they've orchestrated a war for the war machine and why you're never going to hear from "Dr." Fauci again is all.



I honestly resent that I have to share oxygen with complete wastes of carbon such as yourself.

--------------------------------------------------

Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Sunday, February 27, 2022 3:07 PM

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All flights out of Russia, commercial or otherwise, are prohibited from flying over Europe.

That's huge...

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Kiev surrounded, says the mayor.

https://california18.com/live-kiev-surrounded-follow-the-news-of-the-w
ar-in-ukraine/3558542022
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