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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Monday, April 14, 2025 7:07 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote: SECOND Signym, you have written Fuck Ukraine a hundred times
Monday, April 14, 2025 7:12 PM
Tuesday, April 15, 2025 6:13 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: More BS from SECOND'S ridiculous sources.
Tuesday, April 15, 2025 6:22 AM
Tuesday, April 15, 2025 10:45 AM
Tuesday, April 15, 2025 3:17 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by second: Trump blames Zelensky for starting war https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg5q0mev07lo Donald Trump has blamed Volodymyr Zelensky for starting the war with Russia – a day after a massive Russian attack killed 35 people and injured 117 others in Ukraine. "You don't start a war against someone 20 times your size and then hope that people give you some missiles," he told reporters at the White House, also blaming former US President Joe Biden for the conflict. Trump's comments come after widespread outrage over Russia's attack on the Ukrainian city of Sumy on Sunday, which was the deadliest Russian attack on civilians this year. The conflict in Ukraine goes back more than a decade, to 2014, when Kyiv's pro-Russian president was overthrown. Russia then annexed Crimea and backed insurgents in bloody fighting in eastern Ukraine. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Wednesday, April 16, 2025 8:34 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: That's just silly. Barack Obama started that war. Zelensky is just a child rapist and former not-funny comedian.
Wednesday, April 16, 2025 9:43 AM
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Quote: Urainian officials reported ...
Thursday, April 17, 2025 2:35 PM
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Friday, April 18, 2025 7:43 AM
Quote:"He's always looking to purchase missiles. Listen, when you start a war, you gotta know you can win a war. You don't start a war against somebody that's 20 times your size and then hope that people give you some missiles."
Friday, April 18, 2025 8:37 AM
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Quote:Growth Of Ukraine's Azov Units Follow Path Of Waffen-SS The rise of Nazism in Germany was accompanied by the rise of its armed militants. These were used to fight opposing political parties and militia formations. They were ruthless. The units were later known as the Waffen-SS: After release from prison Hitler decided that he needed a paramilitary group to protect him personally. That group should be steadfastly faithful and loyal to him alone; not least to protect him from possible SA intrigues. Therefore Hitler established a personal bodyguard in his hometown München (Munich). Initially this group numbered only ten men with one officer. It was first called "Stoßtruppe Hitler" (Shock Troops Hitler). Again the title derived from divisional assaults groups from World War I. Later it was renamed "Schutz Staffel" (SS or Protection Squad). ... By 1932 the SS had some 30,000 men, ... ... In March 1935 Hitler renounced the Treaty of Versailles and announced the expansion of the German Army and the formation of the SS Verfügungstruppen (SS VT or SS special purpose troops) as the core of a full military division. This unit was financed by the police budget to counter any Army fears. After the start of the war the 'armed evil' grew further: By 1939, four regiments (Standarten) had been organized. ... During the following winter and spring, regiments that had fought in Poland were expanded into brigades and later divisions. ... These three divisions were to be the nucleus of the Waffen-SS in its subsequent rapid expansion. ... At the end of 1940, the Waffen-SS numbered slightly more than 150,000 men. By June 1944, it had grown to 594,000. Intended as an elite force, the Waffen-SS evolved due to the exigencies of war from the original SS concept of a military organization imbued with Nazi ideology and loyalty to Hitler into a polyglot force of decreasing combat effectiveness.a ??? The Waffen-SS was not part of the regular army. It had its own financial resources. It recruited and trained its own officers through Nazi youth organizations. These were 'true believers' . There are a lot of parallels between the rise of the Waffen SS and the Ukrainian Nazi formation known as Azov. Azov started as a violent hooligan gang in Kharkov. It mixed nordic myth and Nazi ideology. It found rich oligarchs as sponsors and in exchange provided them with the necessary muscles to solve 'business conflicts'. It has its own youth organization and international network. Already in 2014, after the U.S. instigated a coup against the elected government of Ukraine, the fascist background of the newly installed government was shining through. Prime Minister Yatsenyuk, selected by the State Department's Victoria Nuland, designated the Russian speaking people in east Ukraine who opposed him as "subhumans" i.e Untermenschen in Nazi speak. In December 2014 the BBC(!) warned of the growing Nazi menace in Ukraine: the ultra-nationalists have proven to be effective and dedicated fighters in the brutal war in the east against Russian-backed separatists and Russian forces, whose numbers also include a large contingent from Russia's far right. As a result, they have achieved a level of acceptance, even though most Ukrainians are unfamiliar with their actual beliefs. The volunteer Azov Battalion is a case in point. Run by the extremist Patriot of Ukraine organisation, which considers Jews and other minorities "sub-human", external and calls for a white, Christian crusade against them, it sports three Nazi symbols, external on its insignia: a modified Wolf's Hook, a black sun (or "Hakensonne") and the title Black Corps, which was used by the Waffen SS. Azov is just one of more than 50 volunteer groups fighting in the east, the vast majority of which are not extremist, yet it seems to enjoy special backing from some top officials: Interior Minister Arsen Avakov and his deputy Anton Gerashchenko actively supported the parliament candidacy of Andriy Biletsky, the Azov and Patriot of Ukraine commander Vadim Troyan, another top Azov official and Patriot of Ukraine member, was recently named police chief for the Kiev region Mr Korotkykh is also an Azov member Ukraine's media have been noticeably silent on this subject. ... [A]lthough Ukraine is emphatically not run by fascists, far-right extremists seem to be making inroads by other means, as in the country's police department. Ukraine's public is grossly under-informed about this. The question is, why doesn't anyone want to tell them? A year after the 2014 coup the CIA secretly started to train Ukrainian paramilitary groups for an insurgency against an eventual Russian invasion: The CIA is overseeing a secret intensive training program in the U.S. for elite Ukrainian special operations forces and other intelligence personnel, according to five former intelligence and national security officials familiar with the initiative. The program, which started in 2015, is based at an undisclosed facility in the Southern U.S., according to some of those officials. The trainees included Azov units: Despite sometimes open acknowledgement of its Nazism — its former commander once said the “historic mission” of Ukraine is to “lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade for their survival” in “a crusade against the Semite-led Untermenschen” — Azov was incorporated into the country’s National Guard in 2014, owing to its effectiveness in fighting Russian separatists. US arms have flowed to the militia, NATO and US military officials have been pictured meeting with them, and members of the militia have talked about their work with US trainers and the lack of background screening to weed out white supremacists. Given all this, it would be more of a surprise that the neo-Nazis of Azov haven’t been trained in the CIA’s clandestine make-an-insurgency program. And we’re already seeing the early signs of blowback.
Sunday, April 20, 2025 7:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Growth Of Ukraine's Azov Units Follow Path Of Waffen-SS . . . Given all this, it would be more of a surprise that the neo-Nazis of Azov haven’t been trained in the CIA’s clandestine make-an-insurgency program. And we’re already seeing the early signs of blowback.
Quote:A first taste of the backlash from the western support for Nazis in Ukraine has created came with an assassination attempt against then presidential candidate Donald Trump: Yesterday one avid U.S. supporter of the fascists in Ukraine tried to assassinate the Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump . . .
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Quote:Signym: And double-fuck Ukrainian Nazis.
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Quote: High-Level Ukraine Peace Talks Scrapped After Rubio, Witkoff Pull Out Last Minute
Wednesday, April 23, 2025 6:14 PM
Wednesday, April 23, 2025 10:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: I can't believe that Zelensky is still alive this far into 2025. He won't survive this. -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
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Quote:Originally posted by second: Heads, Ukraine Loses. Tails, Russia Wins. Trump is giving Putin what he wants and pushing Zelensky to accept it. By Phillips Payson O’Brien | April 23, 2025, 4:26 PM ET https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/04/trump-ukraine-russia-war-deal/682560/ The Trump administration is presenting Ukraine with a choice between two bad options: Either Kyiv must accept an American peace plan that rewards Russia for invading Ukrainian territory, or the United States will abandon its efforts to broker an end to the war.
Friday, April 25, 2025 7:09 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Trump's team needs to think outside the box. Big picture, guys. BIG picture.
Friday, April 25, 2025 7:23 AM
Friday, April 25, 2025 10:39 AM
THG
Friday, April 25, 2025 11:23 AM
Quote: On April 22, 2025, at the 51st GRAU Arsenal, large explosions occurred. The Russians officially claim that these were the result of a fire and a "violation of safety rules," while the Ukrainians have not confirmed their involvement in the incident. Nevertheless, the destruction of much of the vast ammunition depot is attributed [BY WHO??] to Ukrainian drones.
Quote: "We had achieved everything we wanted. Our goal was to, first, stop the threat, or at least to delay the war – to secure eight years to restore economic growth and create powerful armed forces.
Quote: "I thought that the introduction of NATO accession of Ukraine and Georgia, discussed in 2008, was wrong [for that time]. The countries did not have the necessary prerequisites for this, nor was it fully understood what the consequences of such a decision would have been, both with regard to Russia’s actions against Georgia and Ukraine, as well as NATO and its rules of assistance. And the Minsk Agreement of 2014 was an attempt to give Ukraine time [to be ready to join NATO]. Ukraine used this time to become stronger, as you can see today.
Quote: "Yes, Angela Merkel is right on this point," he told the Kiev Independent media outlet, while commenting on Merkel’s remark that the Minsk agreements allowed Kiev to gain time, but by no means prevented further hostilities in the Donbass. "Since 2014, Ukraine has strengthened its military posture. Indeed, the Ukrainian army was completely different from that of 2014. It was better trained and equipped. It is the merit of the Minsk agreements to have given the Ukrainian army this opportunity."
Quote: Zelenskyy admitted that he had previously told German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Emmanuel Macron that the Minsk agreements were "impossible" and he did not plan to implement them. "As for Minsk as a whole, I told Emmanuel Macron and Angela Merkel: we will not be able to implement it like that," Zelenskyy said in an interview with Spiegel published on Thursday.
Quote:Originally posted by SECOND Signym, you were born without hands, but are trying to get a job requiring dexterity. Blah blah blah ...
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Quote: Moscow hails North Korean ‘solidarity’ in Kursk Region liberation Russia is looking forward to further strengthening its ties with Pyongyang, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova has said North Korea has shown a high level of solidarity with Russia by deploying its forces to help Moscow repel the Ukrainian incursion into Russia’s Kursk Region, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova has said. The long-rumored presence of North Korean forces in the area was officially confirmed earlier in the day during a televised meeting between Russian President Vladimir Putin and the country’s chief of the General Staff, Valery Gerasimov. North Korean forces were deployed into the area under the Comprehensive Strategic Partnership Agreement between Moscow and Pyongyang, which came into force last December. Among other things, the treaty envisions mutual military assistance “by all means available” in the event of an attack, Zakharova noted. Russia praises North Korean ‘heroism’ in Kursk Region READ MORE: Russia praises North Korean ‘heroism’ in Kursk Region “The solidarity shown by our Korean friends is a manifestation of the high, essentially allied level of our relations. We are confident that our ties will continue to strengthen and develop,” Zakharova told the newspaper Komsomolskaya Pravda. The DPRK troops “demonstrated high professionalism, courage, and heroism in battle,” according to Gerasimov. The Army general hailed the country’s forces for their “resilience” and praised their contribution to the liberation of the area around the town of Sudzha, which was occupied by Ukrainian troops. Kiev and its Western backers had long alleged that North Korean troops were involved in the hostilities in Kursk Region, which was invaded by Ukrainian forces last August. Prior to Saturday, Pyongyang and Moscow neither confirmed nor denied the rumors, while the Russian president had previously said it was up to the two nations to determine how they fulfill their obligations under the partnership pact.
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