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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Sunday, June 19, 2022 8:16 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Monday, June 20, 2022 7:18 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: I don't look at all of these sites all of the time. They don't all agree with each other but then, I don't expect them to.
Monday, June 20, 2022 7:48 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: THUGR is too stupid to notice that ZH links IT'S sources, or too lazy to follow them up.
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: But I have never promoted ZH as THE place to get news.
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: It's 90pct garbage, and I ignore most of it. It is, however, convenient, if you don't mind filtering out the bull.
Monday, June 20, 2022 8:13 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Monday, June 20, 2022 8:19 AM
Monday, June 20, 2022 9:32 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: THUGR is too stupid to notice that ZH links IT'S sources, or too lazy to follow them up. CAPON: I have from time to time, and it's more of the same BS. Not unlike Truth Social - more MAGA grifters grifting MAGAs. ZH working their grift selling bs and sh*t.
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: But I have never promoted ZH as THE place to get news. CAPON: It is THE most popular source for you.
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: It's 90pct garbage, and I ignore most of it. It is, however, convenient, if you don't mind filtering out the bull. CAPON. So, much, much worse than cnn - check.
Quote: SIGNY: AFA other sources Military Summary - CAPON: almost unwatchable.
Quote: CAPON: The Duran "some Biden officials..." which ones? Unsourced, youtube viewer fodder.
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: I don't look at all of these sites all of the time. They don't all agree with each other but then, I don't expect them to. CAPON: Accurate reporting should reflect the same truths, whichever "side" they work for (or we think they do).
Monday, June 20, 2022 9:43 AM
Quote: At 12.30 PM, Kalibr high-precision long-distance sea-based missiles were launched at a command post of the Ukrainian troops near the village of Shirokaya Dacha (Dnepropetrovsk region). At that moment a working meeting of the commanders of the Aleksandriya operational-strategic group was in progress. More than 50 generals and officers of the AFU was eliminated. This included the General Staff of the Kakhovka group, airborne assault troops and units that operate towards Nikolayev and Zaporozhye. ALSO At 08.20 AM, Kalibr high-precision long-distance missiles destroyed 10 M777 155-mm howitzers and up to 20 armoured combat vehicles delivered by the West to the Kiev regime over the past 10 days that were located in a transformer plant in Nikolayev.
Monday, June 20, 2022 1:15 PM
Monday, June 20, 2022 1:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by CAPON: ZIGGY: ZH is aimed primarily at the retail investor, with a dose of capitalist libertarianism and an even bigger dose of clickbaitism. They do, however, often link to WSJ or other "mainstream" publications. Clearly, you don't know the website. >>> Yes, I know it better than you do.
Quote: ZIGGY: (ZH) Because it is CONVENIENT new AGGREGATOR. Intresting articles on ZH are a flag to look up the topic elsewhere. Howevever, I have often cautioned ppl to put their "shit-filters" (that exact phrase) in place before they go swimming in ZH. As usual, you chose to misrepresent my posting history. >>> You agree with me that ZH is the most popular quoted source by you "Because it is CONVENIENT." And then you say I "misrepresent my posting history." You twist yourself up in knots.
Quote: ZIGGY: It's 90pct garbage, and I ignore most of it. It is, however, convenient, if you don't mind filtering out the bull. The only problem is, you BELIEVE the shit that CNN dumps out. >>> Except I don't. As I've said so many times, if I want to know if a physical event, like a school shooting has occurred, then cnn is almost unparalleled as a source. Otherwise they can't be totally trusted on their own. They're not bad though - not anywhere as bad as you say your main source ZH is, "It's 90pct garbage, and I ignore most of it."
Quote: ZIGGY: AFA other sources - Military Summary - ("Unwatchable") Why? Because they talk about military action in Ukraine, with maps and everything? Or because they don't echo your preferrred "narrative"? Too factual, perhaps, for your taste? >>> More coffee shop intellectuals fawning and straining to sound intelligent & desperate to feel relevant. I've been to college, I know these people.
Quote: ZIGGY: Oh, you mean EXACTLY like CNN, MSNBC, WaPo etc? Seriously, CAPON, if you filter out "anonymous oficials" from your preferred soures, there would be nothing left! >>> The whoever or whatever the fck the Duran is needs to establish credibility before they can say, "I heard somebody somewhere say something about somebody."
Quote: CAPON: NYTimes etc have establish a looong track record.
Quote: ZIGGY: OMFG! TOO FUNNY!!! Weren't you JUST defending the M$M's bullshit-amplification-without-verification as "reporting"? CAPON: OMFG! TOO WRONG!!! No, scroll up and re-read.
Quote: ZIGGY: But then, nobody ever accused you of honesty, consistency, or respect for truth!
Monday, June 20, 2022 4:18 PM
THG
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: At 12.30 PM, Kalibr high-precision long-distance sea-based missiles were launched at a command post of the Ukrainian troops near the village of Shirokaya Dacha (Dnepropetrovsk region). At that moment a working meeting of the commanders of the Aleksandriya operational-strategic group was in progress. More than 50 generals and officers of the AFU was eliminated. This included the General Staff of the Kakhovka group, airborne assault troops and units that operate towards Nikolayev and Zaporozhye. ALSO At 08.20 AM, Kalibr high-precision long-distance missiles destroyed 10 M777 155-mm howitzers and up to 20 armoured combat vehicles delivered by the West to the Kiev regime over the past 10 days that were located in a transformer plant in Nikolayev. http://thesaker.is/sitrep-operation-z-%f0%9f%92%a5-theme-kalibr-kaboom/
Monday, June 20, 2022 4:22 PM
Monday, June 20, 2022 4:52 PM
Monday, June 20, 2022 7:29 PM
Quote:THUGR: The Saker' is a pseudonym of Andrei Raevsky, an ex-patriot Russian domiciled in Florida. In other words comrade, bullshit. Just more of Putin's propaganda.
Monday, June 20, 2022 7:53 PM
Monday, June 20, 2022 8:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Looks like none of you idiots had anything to talk about today except for Russia. I can't blame you. There literally is nothing good to say about how Democrats are running the country (into the ground). -------------------------------------------------- Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
Monday, June 20, 2022 9:01 PM
Quote: Contrary to Washington’s triumphalist pronouncements, Russia is winning the war, Ukraine has lost the war. Any longer-term damage to Russia is open to debate. American sanctions against Russia have turned out to be far more devastating to Europe than to Russia. The global economy has slowed and many developing nations face serious food shortages and risk of broad starvation. There are already deep cracks in the European façade of so-called “NATO unity.” Western Europe will increasingly rue the day that it blindly followed the American Pied Piper to war against Russia. Indeed, this is not a Ukrainian-Russian war but an American-Russian war fought by proxy to the last Ukrainian. Contrary to optimistic declarations, NATO may in fact ultimately emerge weakened. Western Europeans will think long and hard about the wisdom and deep costs of provoking deeper long term confrontations with Russia or other “competitors”of the US. Europe will sooner or later return to the purchase of inexpensive Russian energy. Russia lies on the doorstep and a natural economic relationship with Russia will possess overwhelming logic in the end. Europe already perceives the US as a declining power with an erratic and hypocritical foreign policy “vision” premised upon the desperate need to preserve “American leadership” in the world. America’s willingness to go to war to this end is increasingly dangerous to others.
Tuesday, June 21, 2022 7:58 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Who said this? Quote: Contrary to Washington’s triumphalist pronouncements, Russia is winning the war, Ukraine has lost the war. Any longer-term damage to Russia is open to debate. American sanctions against Russia have turned out to be far more devastating to Europe than to Russia. The global economy has slowed and many developing nations face serious food shortages and risk of broad starvation. There are already deep cracks in the European façade of so-called “NATO unity.” Western Europe will increasingly rue the day that it blindly followed the American Pied Piper to war against Russia. Indeed, this is not a Ukrainian-Russian war but an American-Russian war fought by proxy to the last Ukrainian. Contrary to optimistic declarations, NATO may in fact ultimately emerge weakened. Western Europeans will think long and hard about the wisdom and deep costs of provoking deeper long term confrontations with Russia or other “competitors”of the US. Europe will sooner or later return to the purchase of inexpensive Russian energy. Russia lies on the doorstep and a natural economic relationship with Russia will possess overwhelming logic in the end. Europe already perceives the US as a declining power with an erratic and hypocritical foreign policy “vision” premised upon the desperate need to preserve “American leadership” in the world. America’s willingness to go to war to this end is increasingly dangerous to others. You get three guesses. Putin? Medvedev? Saker? Someone else?
Tuesday, June 21, 2022 8:20 AM
Tuesday, June 21, 2022 1:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH: Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Who said this? Quote: Contrary to Washington’s triumphalist pronouncements, Russia is winning the war, Ukraine has lost the war. Any longer-term damage to Russia is open to debate. American sanctions against Russia have turned out to be far more devastating to Europe than to Russia. The global economy has slowed and many developing nations face serious food shortages and risk of broad starvation. There are already deep cracks in the European façade of so-called “NATO unity.” Western Europe will increasingly rue the day that it blindly followed the American Pied Piper to war against Russia. Indeed, this is not a Ukrainian-Russian war but an American-Russian war fought by proxy to the last Ukrainian. Contrary to optimistic declarations, NATO may in fact ultimately emerge weakened. Western Europeans will think long and hard about the wisdom and deep costs of provoking deeper long term confrontations with Russia or other “competitors”of the US. Europe will sooner or later return to the purchase of inexpensive Russian energy. Russia lies on the doorstep and a natural economic relationship with Russia will possess overwhelming logic in the end. Europe already perceives the US as a declining power with an erratic and hypocritical foreign policy “vision” premised upon the desperate need to preserve “American leadership” in the world. America’s willingness to go to war to this end is increasingly dangerous to others. You get three guesses. Putin? Medvedev? Saker? Someone else? Lemme guess. You found a fifth person in the world that spins the same bs as you?
Quote: Graham E. Fuller (born November 28, 1937) is an American author and political analyst, specializing in Islamist extremism.[1] Formerly vice-chair of the National Intelligence Council,[2] he also served as Station Chief in Kabul for the CIA. A "think piece" that Fuller wrote for the CIA was identified as instrumental in leading to the Iran–Contra affair.[3][4] After a career in the United States State Department and CIA lasting 27 years,[5] he joined Rand Corporation as senior political scientist specializing in the Middle East.[3][6][7] As of 2006, he was affiliated with the Simon Fraser University in Vancouver, British Columbia, as an adjunct professor of history.[8] He is the author of a number of books, including The Future of Political Islam.[9]
Tuesday, June 21, 2022 2:00 PM
Tuesday, June 21, 2022 2:40 PM
Tuesday, June 21, 2022 4:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: In the meantime ... RUSSIA!RUSSIA! is nothing but a big distraction from USA!USA! Maybe we should put the focus back where it belongs. Eventually Russia will win in Ukraine. And I hope y'all will FINALY take a lesson on how you've been lied to for decades, and you'll stop believing the M$M which just amplifies lies by "anonymous officials". Learn to look for evidence, broaden your sources, STOP LYING, use logic to parse conflicting narratives. Until then, peace out.
Tuesday, June 21, 2022 4:35 PM
Tuesday, June 21, 2022 5:28 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Oh, THAT'S a cheap shot: telling someone to shut up AFTER they left the room. You think you're so clever, but all you wind up doing is looking cowardly. Again, peace out.
Quote:The UK will ‘physically cease to exist’ if the latest stand-off in Lithuania triggers a nuclear World War Three, a retired Russian general claimed. Speaking on Russian state TV this week, lieutenant general Evgeny Buzhinsky said the West is playing with fire in blockading the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad, in order to prevent sanctioned goods from reaching the territory via Nato state Lithuania. The military expert also lashed out at British general Sir Patrick Sanders, who took command of Britain’s land forces this week and announced his arrival with a chilling message saying troops should be prepared to fight Russia and defend Europe. ‘He doesn’t understand that as a result of the Third World War Britain will physically cease to exist,’ said Lieutenant Buzhinsky. ‘The island will vanish, so I’ve no idea where he or his descendants will live.’ In a chest-beating message sent to troops on his fourth day in charge of the armed forces, General Sanders said: ‘I am the first chief of the general staff since 1941 to take command of the Army in the shadow of a land war in Europe involving a continental power… ‘The scale of the enduring threat from Russia shows we’ve entered a new era of insecurity. ‘It is my singular duty to make our Army as lethal and effective as it can be. The time is now and the opportunity is ours to seize.’ In response, Lieutenant general Buzhinsky claimed alongside the war in Ukraine the situation in Kaliningrad was ‘deeply serious’, and urged president Vladimir Putin to move nuclear weapons to the exclave in order to protect Russian interests. Formerly the Prussian outpost of Königsberg, the city of Kaliningrad is Russia’s most westerly territory and has been a key strategic outpost since the end of World War Two. It is wedged in between Lithuania and Poland, and acts as the headquarters of the Kremlin’s Baltic Fleet. ‘This is a long game to push us out from the Baltic Sea, an attempt to block and cut Kaliningrad off, and finally to take it away from us,’ he claimed. Lieutenant general Buzhinsky, who served in senior positions in the Russian defence ministry, said the West intended to ‘block Kaliningrad economically, completely, until our people howl from destitution’. He added Putin should nullify the Soviet recognition of Lithuania’s independence, switch off its energy and take control of its borders. ‘And then finally we must take military measures,’ he concluded. ‘We’ve got to do something. We’ve got to strengthen our military presence at the border with Lithuania as we did in December last year, and January this year at the border with Ukraine.’ Elsewhere in the interview Lieutenant general Buzhinsky confirmed Russia was now effectively at war with Nato, adding any attempts to impede on Russia’s sovereign territory could make the situation in Ukraine look like ‘a joke’. Elsewhere this week, Putin’s spokesperson Dmitry Peskov warned all trust has now evaporated between the West and Moscow. ‘Relations between Russia and the West will not be back to the previous level, because Moscow will never again trust such “partners”,’ he told US TV channel MSNBC. ‘It will be a lengthy crisis, but we will never trust the West again.’ Between 2002 and 2009, Lieutenant general Buzhinsky, 72, was head of the International Treaty Directorate and deputy head of the Main Directorate for International Military Cooperation at the Russian Ministry of Defence.
Tuesday, June 21, 2022 7:37 PM
Tuesday, June 21, 2022 9:04 PM
Tuesday, June 21, 2022 10:29 PM
Wednesday, June 22, 2022 2:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Nobody cared when this started. Even less people care today. -------------------------------------------------- Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
Wednesday, June 22, 2022 5:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Nobody cared when this started. Even less people care today. -------------------------------------------------- Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus Seriously. When ppl are facing rampant inflation on a day-to-day basis, who cares about some country they can't find on a map?
Quote:On the evening of October 24, 1978, President Jimmy Carter sat up straight behind the Resolute desk in the Oval Office, interlocked his hands, and began reading from the prepared remarks laid out in front of him. “I want to have a frank talk with you tonight about our most serious domestic problem,” Carter told the camera. “That problem is inflation.”
Wednesday, June 22, 2022 8:09 AM
Wednesday, June 22, 2022 2:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Seriously. When ppl are facing rampant inflation on a day-to-day basis, who cares about some country they can't find on a map?
Wednesday, June 22, 2022 3:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Seriously. When ppl are facing rampant inflation on a day-to-day basis, who cares about some country they can't find on a map? So why do you keep posting in these threads?
Wednesday, June 22, 2022 4:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: But liars are gonna lie - especially paid liars like you - and stupid people are going to believe the lies. And if even reality doesn't stop the lying my posts aren't gonna stop the lies either. But I may point out now and again that you're still lying.... And now and again, when events PROVE that you're lying, I may point that out too.
Wednesday, June 22, 2022 4:46 PM
Wednesday, June 22, 2022 7:28 PM
Wednesday, June 22, 2022 9:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: CBS NEWS: Russia's ruble is the strongest currency in the world this year https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-ukraine-ruble-currency-russian-economy-2022/ There you go, you dumb shits. LET'S GO BRANDON! -------------------------------------------------- Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
Thursday, June 23, 2022 9:55 AM
Thursday, June 23, 2022 10:00 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: How much has the Consumer Price Index changed over the Putin Era, going back to 2000? If the price was 100 in 2000, it is now 798 in 2022 for Russians. It is 172 in 2022 for Americans.
Thursday, June 23, 2022 10:40 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by second: How much has the Consumer Price Index changed over the Putin Era, going back to 2000? If the price was 100 in 2000, it is now 798 in 2022 for Russians. It is 172 in 2022 for Americans. Wait, are you saying Biden screwed up Russia's economy also???? Don't mess with people's heads with facts, second - they're over-taxed mentally already.
Thursday, June 23, 2022 8:38 PM
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Friday, June 24, 2022 7:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: CBS NEWS: Russia's ruble is the strongest currency in the world this year
Saturday, June 25, 2022 7:27 AM
Saturday, June 25, 2022 9:13 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: CBS NEWS: Russia's ruble is the strongest currency in the world this year Russia's ultimate goal is clearly stated. There is no longer any need to read between the lines when Putin compares himself with Peter the Great. Putin’s justification: “In order to claim some kind of leadership – I am not even talking about global leadership, I mean leadership in any area – any country, any people, any ethnic group should ensure their sovereignty. Because there is no in-between, no intermediate state: either a country is sovereign, or it is a colony, no matter what the colonies are called.” The implication is clear: there are two categories of state. The sovereign and the conquered. In Putin’s view, Ukraine falls into the latter category. From Russian official statements in the last months, Finland, the Baltic states and Europe itself fall into the latter category. The Conqueror must have the strongest currency in the world. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jun/21/pacificsm-is-the-wrong-response-to-the-war-in-ukraine The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Saturday, June 25, 2022 10:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: You just linked a pro-war article from a Leftist trash shill site. THIS is what Democrats are now. You suck. Your party sucks. We are watching the death of the Democratic Party. And I'm sitting up top here with the blacks and the Mexicans and watching the white racists fall apart. -------------------------------------------------- Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
Sunday, June 26, 2022 7:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: But liars are gonna lie - especially paid liars like you - and stupid people are going to believe the lies. And if even reality doesn't stop the lying my posts aren't gonna stop the lies either. But I may point out now and again that you're still lying.... And now and again, when events PROVE that you're lying, I may point that out too. You accuse me of lying... by lying. Yup. Let me know if anyone intelligent or interesting or funny or insightful or worldy or mature or sophisticated or worth while or just above average shows up...
Sunday, June 26, 2022 10:15 PM
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