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Bolton is out, finally!

POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Thursday, September 12, 2019 14:55
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Tuesday, September 10, 2019 10:56 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



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Tuesday, September 10, 2019 11:10 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, September 10, 2019 11:22 PM

BRENDA


This made the news up here.

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Tuesday, September 10, 2019 11:25 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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I mean, yeah... celebrate if you want, I suppose.

I've lived long enough to know that the devil you know is usually better than the next guy or gal that steps in.

Would be much happier if the headlines read "NSA dissolved, Bolton and all of his subordinates better learn how to code".

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, September 10, 2019 11:42 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I saw that and had a brief flash of joy, until I wondered if he'll worm his way back in.

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Tuesday, September 10, 2019 11:45 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Anyone come up with anything better?

Bolton - BOLTED!

Bolton got screwed.

Aw nuts. Bolton's gone.

Bolton - nailed.

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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 1:31 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Who will fill the hole that Bolton left?

Bolton, unbolted.



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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 9:45 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Just another brick in the wall.

I'm sure the next guy is going to turn it all around and make a newer, nicer NSA that cares deeply about your privacy and constitutional rights.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:02 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Oh, the problem with Bolton is that he apparently monkey-wrenched (get it? "Monkey-wrenched"?) most of Trump's foreign policy. According to everyone who pays attention to such thnigs, he torpedoed the talk between Trump and Kim Jong-Un (N Korea) in Vietnam, between Trump and Zarif (Iran) at the UN, and between Tump and the Taliban (Afghanistan) at Camp David, and was the originator of the disasterous plan to back "Random Guy" Guaido to overthrow Madurao (Venezuela) when Random Guy had almost no support.

Has nothing to do with internal surveillance.

I can't tell if this is an exceptionally clever plan by Trump to trot out the neocons one by one and then watch while they blow themselves up on the world stage (because no military support) or Trump himself is just being a random guy, appointing people willy-nilly to foreign policy positions because he's not a "detail" guy.

In any case, at least he knows how to say YOU'RE FIRED!


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You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:33 PM

WHOZIT


Bolton never saw a war he didn't like, good riddance.

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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:45 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Bolton never saw a war he didn't like, good riddance.

HAHA! No kidding!

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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:50 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Apparently THE straw that broke the camel's back ... one of many ... is that Trump wanted to negotiate an easing of sanctions with Rouhani (Iran) and Bolton disagreed.

NEVER get in the way of the "master negotiator" wanting to negotiate!

https://www.thedailybeast.com/did-trump-and-bolton-break-over-iranor-t
he-leaks


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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 1:03 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Has nothing to do with internal surveillance.



There's 24 hours in a day. Unless he too was de-hoarding his house and doing structural repair work to it, I'm sure there was plenty of time in his busy work schedule to do both.

No matter who's running the spook agencies, I strongly believe that we're very close to the day where we all are given a single online ID for all of our online interactions.

This wouldn't help the government in a direct fashion, since I also strongly believe they have the automated ability to not only track every single step we've made online, but catalog it going decades back. VPN's are useless when they can see exactly where you're being bounced around on the chain.

Where it will help the Government, however, is completely curtailing any "wrongthink" overnight by allowing all of the useful idiots to shame and censor each other. They really wouldn't even have to pass any laws further restricting free speech either. The entire internet would be scrubbed clean as a safe space for kids. Nobody would risk their job or their lively hood to post an opinion that isn't part of the narrative. Look at Second... He loves telling you all about how he fires people left and right for their political opinions already.


At that point, only a clone of our existing internet popping up could save us from it. But eventually that too would grow in popularity, then ads would start creeping in and the companies providing the ad revenue would start dictating terms and once it got large enough it would eventually all just be co-opted by the original internet.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 7:13 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 8:47 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Bolt On Bolt Off.

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Thursday, September 12, 2019 8:46 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Not one to unite, the Left didn't like him, Greens spoke against him, Libertarians and old school Republicans don't like him. Bolton wanted the Vietcong dead was a supporter of the Vietnam War, but purposely avoided military service in Vietnam, did some National Guard stuff like Bush, wear the boots at home but then in the Harvard, Frat, Masonic, Skull and Bones and Yale reunions people would heard Bolton say how the man 'had no desire to die in a Southeast Asian rice paddy' but was fine sending others off to Asia to die. What does such a departure mean for the Jewish global Israeli dual citizen world, the Saudis never called out for their role in 911 and who knows how far the rabbit hole goes, there is media talk he collected big sums who know if it all adds up it could be million or more from Deutsche Bank and HSBC and other groups, some of these groups of course named in that Epstein black book, what is really pulling the strings. The political spin, he was fired or he resigned depending on what you read.

Bolton once gave speeches about a subject called "Beyond the Axis of Evil" in response to President Bush's State of the Union Address (where Bush characterized Iran, Iraq, and North Korea as part of an "Axis of Evil") of course no mention of the special Saudis who got to fly out of America after 911 and no talk of those missing 28 pages. If the 'Deep State' exists I feel Bolton was part of it, a tougher version of Jeane Kirkpatrick, the new Bolton politic, an Exceptional Neo-Con Policy on steroids. What did people vote for in the US election? Trump seems to have been elected as a kind of protest vote, an America first, maybe even the Anti-War platform, people did not want a Hillary or another Bush. Bolton live on record, quotes he admits All of These Wars Are For Oil? He supported the NATO-led military intervention in Libya that toppled the regime of Muammar Gaddafi. Bolton criticized the British "political class" for not implementing the Brexit vote... and Ron Paul asking was John Bolton the New Dick Cheney? The media news unclear whether he resigned or was fired by Trump.

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Thursday, September 12, 2019 11:51 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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I'm waiting to see how far Trump can push the lefties of today.

They fell in love with Comey, and now are the party that supports all the alphabet spook agencies.

They did a complete 180 on Mueller since the days of GWB.

They argued that war-hawk neo-con John McCain was a war hero when he died shortly after having bad things to say about Trump.

I'm waiting to hear about what a great guy Bolton was.

Maybe if Bolton was in long enough he would have given the Trump administration the Libya Model and been a hero to the Dems.






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Thursday, September 12, 2019 2:40 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
They fell in love with Comey, and now are the party that supports all the alphabet spook agencies.



"They" hated Comey for what he did to Clinton - many Clinton supporters blame his late comments on her loss.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
They did a complete 180 on Mueller since the days of GWB.

More like they are pissed at Pelosi for not taking Mueller's work to the next, obvious step.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
They argued that war-hawk neo-con John McCain was a war hero when he died shortly after having bad things to say about Trump.



He was both. He was a hero to the men he was imprisoned with, I'll wager. He survived something you would have probably died from by shi*tting yourself.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm waiting to hear about what a great guy Bolton was.



You don't follow politics at all, do you?

Pretty obvious that your posting strategy these days is to post stupid sh*t just to post stupid sh*t. Can't imagine what some Dem did to you for you to have such a h-on for f*cking with them on a mostly deserted forum. Must have been brutal.

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Thursday, September 12, 2019 2:55 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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