Russia Invades Ukraine. Again by captaincrunch

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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Friday, July 11, 2025 2:51 PM

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As of July 11, 2025, estimates indicate that approximately 1,031,620 Russian military personnel have been killed or wounded since the beginning of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine on February 24, 2022.

Independent sources have confirmed the identities of 118,000 Russian military personnel killed during this conflict, with actual numbers likely being higher due to underreporting

So, let's be generous and say that 150,000 Russian soldiers have been killed. That's increasing the verified figure by almost 50%. That's not as dramatic as the 1 million figure that western establishment has decided they're going to talk about.

We really don't know how many have been wounded, and of those, how many were treated and returned to service and how many were permanently removed from battle.

THGR, I watched that video about trench warfare. It presents a cogent story that hangs together pretty consistently. The problem is that it doesn't match the day to day videos posted by both sides, which I follow almost every day on Military Summary channel.

It's true that Russia has taken to attacking in smaller units - 3 men, usually. That attack IDs Ukrainian defensive positions, which are the attacked by artillery or drone, depending on how hardened the position is.

But those defensive positions are rarely trenches, according to the videos. Most often they're tree lines or buildings. And not sure how accurate his map is, but he does indicate trenches and major fortifications, and it seems the Russian army tends to go around them and cut off their supply lines, rather than tackling them head-on.

In fact, attacking logistics... surrounding important targets, aiming for roadways, bridges, and intersections, and creating cauldrons seems to be Russia's favorite tactic. Once an area is a mostly encircled, Russia just bombs and drones the remaining route (the "golden bridge") being used to either reinforce or evacuate the cauldron, and then drones or shells/ bombs whatever is inside the cauldron..

If you look at a current map, you'll see that Kupiansk, Konstantinovka, and Pokrovsk are all more than 2/3 encircled, with the intervening areas also being whittled down in a series of smaller cauldrons.

AFA chemical weapons ... well, the West accused Russia of poisoning people with very sketchy evidence, or no evidence at all. They SAY they have evidence but don't say what that is. Given a history of lying and literally making up data, I put that accusation in a giant mental warehouse called "unproven".

Finally... given the intensity of the fighting, the fact that ONLY 13,000 civilians have been killed (they say) is over 3.5 years of intense air attack just goes to show that Russia really is aiming at military targets. It's not a war crime to kill civilians. It's a war crime to TARGET civilians. If they wanted to kill civilians, the death toll would be in the hundreds of thousands. Just look at Gaza.

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Friday, July 11, 2025 3:12 PM

THG

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Some of the highlights from this thread

WHOZIT'S paranoia:
Well get ready because China is going to move next, and keep an eye on Iran

Poor lonely THGR/ THGRII/ JJ:
Hey G. Can you stick around a bit? It would be so so good to have another sane person keeping tabs on this. Also, its' good to see you're good.

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An equally cold assessment G is, the longer it goes on Russia’s military loses more of its assets which is better for Europe. And in the long run the world. If the reports of what they’ve lost so far are true, that’s massive.
THUGR has been banging this drum since day 1.

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Putin has to be shitting himself. He’s watching his army dissolve right in front of his eyes. I’ve heard it from different professional sources that the Russian military is scared shitless of our military.

Oh, how wrong you were, THUGR!

THUGR: I can tell you don't even know what is truly happening. Putin is losing more than a thousand a day. That's 30 thousand a month and so on.

Putin’s Soldiers Fall Like Dominoes to Ukraine's WWI Tactics. Putin is desperate. He is using chemicals again.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-soldiers-fall-like-domino
es-to-ukraine-s-wwi-tactics/vi-AA1IhbNK?ocid=BingNewsSerp

If you're using msn as a source, you need to get better sources.

SECOND is posting more about Russian losses right after your post here. We both know my sources are reputable when yours include the likes of zerohedge. You’re like Jack. Deny the facts and push on. Continue to post propaganda.

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Friday, July 11, 2025 4:58 PM

SIGNYM

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No, THGR, your sources are ESTABLISHMENT. Based on what Kiev, the CIA, and MI6 say. Not verified by evidence, and with a long track record of lying for propaganda purposes.

My sources are backed by videos and statements from both sides, maps adjusted based on geolocations, and research using publicized data and transparent methods.

All you have is "someone said". And that's all SECOND has, too.

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Saturday, July 12, 2025 6:19 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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No, THGR, your sources are ESTABLISHMENT. Based on what Kiev, the CIA, and MI6 say. Not verified by evidence, and with a long track record of lying for propaganda purposes.

My sources are backed by videos and statements from both sides, maps adjusted based on geolocations, and research using publicized data and transparent methods.

All you have is "someone said". And that's all SECOND has, too.

Signym, your sources and statements are paid by Putin, so shove your self-righteousness up your ass. Your response will be something like: "You can't prove Putin paid." Signym, you do not even have these sources' real names, locations, and affiliations. You need all of that even to begin a tentative claim that Putin isn't paying them.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, July 12, 2025 6:20 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Britain promises Ukraine 5,000 drone-killing missiles. Russia would burn through them fast.
5,000 missiles might sound like a lot—until you do the math. At current launch rates, they wouldn’t last long.

By David Axe | 11 July 2025

https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/07/11/britain-ukraine-5000-missiles/

The United Kingdom is buying 5,000 Lightweight Multirole Missiles from arms firm Thales—and plans to donate them to Ukraine. The 13-kg LMM, fired one at a time from a shoulder launcher, ranges as far as 8 km under infrared guidance.

The 5,000 missiles, built at Thales’ Belfast factory, could cost as much as $3.4 billion. ($680,000 each, or $52,300 per kilogram, more expensive than platinum at $45,500 per kilogram) https://www.apmex.com/platinum-price/1-kilo-platinum-price The UK government announced it will loan the money to the Ukrainian government—with generous repayment terms spread over 19 years.

The LMM buy, first floated in March, “is not only a major boost to the UK’s defense capabilities but will also keep Ukraine in the fight, boosting their defense against Russia’s illegal full-scale invasion,” the government in London stated.

But 5,000 missiles alone can’t keep Ukraine in the fight for very long. Russia is already overwhelming Ukraine’s air-defenses with vast numbers of explosive drones.

The LMM is just the thing to shoot down a relatively low- and slow-flying target such as Russia’s 200-kg Shahed attack drones, which range thousands of miles with 90-kg warheads.

In three years, Russia has launched around 29,000 Shaheds—also known as Gerans—at Ukrainian positions and cities.

Ukrainian forces shot down or jammed most of them. But Ukraine’s air-defenses are running low—and new models of the 440-pound, propeller-driven drone have additional satellite navigation receivers, making them jam-resistant.

Meanwhile, the pace of Shahed launches is increasing—meaning more and more of the drones are striking their targets … and killing or maiming Ukrainians.

Ukrainian analysis group Frontelligence Insight crunched the numbers. “The 2,736 drones launched in June, many targeting Kyiv, make up nearly 10% of the total” number of Shaheds launched since Russia widened its war on Ukraine.

This proves “growing production,” explained the Frontelligence Insight’s founder, Tatarigami.

“This aligns with earlier warnings from Ukrainian intelligence, which estimated Russia’s monthly output at around 2,700 Shahed-type UAVs and roughly 2,500 decoys,” Tatarigami noted. The decoys distract Ukrainian defenses, helping the armed Shaheds reach their targets.

In August 2024, Ukrainian officials said Russia was producing about 500 Shaheds a month. “Since then, output has multiplied, and the drones have become deadlier: the warhead weight has increased from 50 kg to 90 kg, and maneuverability has improved,” Tatarigami wrote.

Robert Brovdi, the commander of Ukraine’s Unmanned Systems Forces, warned that Shahed production could soon exceed 1,000 per day. “I’m not intimidating anyone,” Brovdi wrote. His warning is based on “analysis of the intelligence,” he said.

“The growing scale is a serious problem for Ukraine,” Tatarigami intoned.

Ukraine is shooting down the drones with mobile gun teams, surface-to-air missile batteries, fighter jets, gunship helicopters and interceptor drones. It’s also sending them off course with electronic warfare systems.

But the sheer number of drones overwhelms Ukraine’s defenses. Part of the problem is that many of the munitions the Ukrainians use to down the Shaheds are more expensive than the drones are.

An LMM costs more than $500,000. (($680,000 each)) A Shahed costs $200,000. 5,000 LMMs costing $3.4 billion, if they struck 100% of the time, would be enough to destroy a few weeks worth of Shaheds costing $1 billion.

For the Ukrainians, “it’s not just about increasing production” of anti-drone systems, “but also about reducing the cost per interception—making it much cheaper to intercept drones than to manufacture them,” Tatarigami explained.

The cheapest defense is jamming. It costs roughly $8 million to surround a city with jammers such as the Night Watch electronic warfare team’s Lima. The few cities that have enjoyed Night Watch’s protection have suffered almost no Shahed strikes for months at a time.

The Russians can jam-proof a drone by adding more antennas for satellite navigation, compelling the Ukrainians to add more channels to their jammers—or risk the electronic defenses failing. Right now, the Russians are evolving their drones faster than the Ukrainians are evolving their jammers, the Night Watch rep admitted.

Asked if Ukraine was losing the war on the Shaheds, a representative of Ukraine’s Night Watch electronic warfare team responded simply. “Yes, it is.”

5,000 missiles that cost slightly too much for anti-Shahed duty may not change that.

Keep reading: Ukraine's perfect German missiles never miss—but Russia's drone factories never sleep
https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/07/09/ukraine-german-missiles-vs-russ
ian-drones/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, July 12, 2025 6:29 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

It is a BIG IF, but if Ukraine can increase production 100-fold to 65,000 every 6 months for a cost of $620 million, equivalent to $9,550 each, Ukraine has the Russian drone problem solved:

Ukraine continues to expand its production and innovation of interceptor drones for use against Shahed-type drones. Kyiv City Military Administration Head Timur Tkachenko announced on July 11 that Kyiv City will allocate 260 million hryvnia ($6.2 million) to Ukraine’s Clean Sky program aimed at using interceptor drones to defend Kyiv against nightly Russian long-range drone strikes.[8] Tkachenko stated that the program will fund additional equipment, the creation of an interceptor drone training center, and several mobile interceptor drone units. Tkachenko stated that the project has downed 550 Russian drones over Kyiv City in the last four months. Kyiv Oblast Military Administration Head Mykola Kalashnyk estimated that the project has downed almost 650 drones over Kyiv Oblast more broadly.[9] Ukrainian Minister of Digital Transformation Mykhailo Fedorov stated that interceptor drones are downing dozens of Russian long-range drones each night.[10] Ukraine’s interceptor drones will play a critical role in lowering the cost of defense against nightly Russian drone and missile strikes, although US-provided Patriot air defense systems remain the only system capable of downing Russian ballistic missiles.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-july-11-2025

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, July 12, 2025 6:33 AM

SIGNYM

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No, THGR, your sources are ESTABLISHMENT. Based on what Kiev, the CIA, and MI6 say. Not verified by evidence, and with a long track record of lying for propaganda purposes.

My sources are backed by videos and statements from both sides, maps adjusted based on geolocations, and research using publicized data and transparent methods.

All you have is "someone said". And that's all SECOND has, too.
Signym, your sources and statements are paid by Putin, so shove your self-righteousness up your ass. Your response will be something like: "You can't prove Putin paid." Signym, you do not even have these sources' real names, locations, and affiliations. You need all of that even to begin a tentative claim that Putin isn't paying them.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

No, they aren't. So sit on it and spin.

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