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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Monday, September 29, 2025 3:26 PM

THG

Keep it real please



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Monday, September 29, 2025 3:26 PM

THG

Keep it real please


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

14,000 killed over 3.5 years. That's 10 a day. I imagine that if Russia was TRULY targeting civilians, they could do better than that!

But maybe we should compare that to Palestinians, where the death toll is estimated at 600,000. Or Ukrainian soldiers, where the death toll is somewhere between 450,000 and 1.4 million. THAT'S what happens to targets in ethnic cleansing or war.

You refuse to face facts.

THUGR:

The world's press reports daily on how Putin keeps bombing cities. Everybody knows* it, except comrade signym that is.



OF COURSE Russia is bombing cities!

But do you think Russia is just dropping bombs at random?
OF COURSE NOT.

According to Military Summary, they're targeting drone manufacturing facilities, weapons and ammo storehouses, oil refineries or depots, military command offices, electrical generating plants or substations, weapon repair factories, military training grounds etc. I can sometimes tell what was hit when I see things like secondary detonations (a sure sign of weapons storage) or big plumes of black oil smoke or if the power goes out.

When civilians are killed it's bc of things like falling debris, an incoming missile gone astray, air defense missiles themselves falling on civilian areas, and the occasional night watchman.

I can recall only two civilian targets being hit. One was about a year ago, a pizza place next to a hotel where a high-level meeting with western military commanders was going on. The other was the Building of Ministers, and that was at night when the building was empty.

* A billion flies eat shit.

You are remarkably uninformed/ misinformed, THGR. Stop being such a little boy and learn about the real world.
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We are talking about Russia. Not whataboutism. You're a very sad lady. That said, everybody knows what Putin the butcher is doing, everybody but comrade signym.

The top priority for Pope Francis' peace envoy in his meeting with U.S. President Joe Biden was the repatriation of children forcibly deported from Ukraine to Russia, the papal nuncio to the United States said.

"The cardinal is very realistic, we try to do what is possible," Pierre said.

https://www.ncronline.org/vatican/vatican-news/repatriating-ukrainian-
children-topped-papal-envoys-agenda-biden


Russia’s bombing campaign is killing record numbers of Ukrainian civilians

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/russias-bombing-cam
paign-is-killing-record-numbers-of-ukrainian-civilians
/



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Monday, September 29, 2025 5:58 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
14,000 killed over 3.5 years. That's 10 a day. I imagine that if Russia was TRULY targeting civilians, they could do better than that!
But maybe we should compare that to Palestinians, where the death toll is estimated at 600,000. Or Ukrainian soldiers, where the death toll is somewhere between 450,000 and 1.4 million. THAT'S what happens to targets in ethnic cleansing or war.
You refuse to face facts.

THUGR:
The world's press reports daily on how Putin keeps bombing cities. Everybody knows* it, except comrade signym that is.

SIGNY:
OF COURSE Russia is bombing cities!
But do you think Russia is just dropping bombs at random?
OF COURSE NOT.
According to Military Summary, they're targeting drone manufacturing facilities, weapons and ammo storehouses, oil refineries or depots, military command offices, electrical generating plants or substations, weapon repair factories, military training grounds etc. I can sometimes tell what was hit when I see things like secondary detonations (a sure sign of weapons storage) or big plumes of black oil smoke or if the power goes out.

When civilians are killed it's bc of things like falling debris, an incoming missile gone astray, air defense missiles themselves falling on civilian areas, and the occasional night watchman.

I can recall only two civilian targets being hit. One was about a year ago, a pizza place next to a hotel where a high-level meeting with western military commanders was going on. The other was the Building of Ministers, and that was at night when the building was empty.

* A billion flies eat shit.

You are remarkably uninformed/ misinformed, THGR. Stop being such a little boy and learn about the real world.
ger


THUGR:
We are talking about Russia. Not whataboutism.



You're so stupid! YOU claimed that Russia was "targeting civilians". I provide proof that they're not.

So you switch to "Russia is bombing cities".
IT'S NOT.
It's bombing military targets IN cities, not just dropping missiles and drones willy nilly.
I back that up with videos, which is Military Summary's claim to fame: they don't declare something happened without proof.

What do you have??
"Everybody knows"?


A billion flies eat shit, son. Don't be a fly.

Quote:

The top priority for Pope Francis' peace envoy in his meeting with U.S. President Joe Biden was the repatriation of children forcibly deported from Ukraine to Russia, the papal nuncio to the United States said.

Dragged from the loving arms of their family?
NOPE!
Quote:

Ukrainian children have been abducted by the Russian state after their parents had been arrested by Russian occupation authorities or killed... or after becoming separated from their parents in an active war zone. Children have also been abducted from Ukrainian state institutions [orphanages, juvenile detention] in occupied areas...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abductions_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_
War


So, parents: dead, arrested, unknown location, not in custodial care of their children.
What was Russia supposed to do? Leave them wandering the streets in n active war zone?
Another nonsense argument.

Quote:

Russia’s bombing campaign is killing record numbers of Ukrainian civilians

"Record" compared to what? Compared to Dresden WWII? Compared to Gaza? Compared to 2022? A meaningless statement.

You're so intent on being outraged you don't even care if you're right or not.

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Monday, September 29, 2025 7:11 PM

THG

Keep it real please


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/23/world/europe/putin-speech-russia-uk
raine.html


Word by Word and Between the Lines: A Close Look at Putin’s Speech






Explain this comrade signym.

tick tock

T


Russia in CRISIS: New 2026 Budget Is a Train wreck



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Monday, September 29, 2025 7:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Signym has always defended Putin saying he is bombing military targets. For years we have been watching him mostly target civilians.



If Putin was targeting "mostly" civilians, given the level of ordnance involved, hundreds of thousands of civilians would be dead by now. Just look at Palestine. Instead, it's about 14,000, according to the UN https://ukraine.ohchr.org/en/Number-of-civilians-killed-and-injured-in
-Ukraine-reaches-three-year-monthly-high-in-July-2025-UN-human-rights-monitors-say
Yanno, I went thru this calculation with you before. I guess you prefer fiction over fact.

Take Mariupol as a case in point. Before the war, it was home to nearly 450,000 people. After months of encirclement and bombardment in 2022, city officials estimated that 25,000–75,000 civilians had been killed. Those numbers alone would eclipse the UN’s entire civilian death toll for the war, but they’re not reflected in official statistics. Mariupol is still under occupation. Independent investigators have not been allowed in. What happened there remains largely unrecorded.

https://kyivindependent.com/undercounted-and-erased-the-world-has-unde
restimated-how-many-civilians-russia-has-killed-in-ukraine
/

Today, Russian propaganda exploits the UN’s undercount to deny war crimes, minimize Ukraine’s suffering, and subvert international resolve to hold the aggressor accountable.

In 1942, the Evening Star reported that 2 million Jews had already been killed in Nazi’s genocide — a figure based on incomplete, unverified sources. It was speculative by necessity, but the alternative was worse: to demand death certificates from the gas chambers or wait in silence for the proper count. The journalists who published it are not remembered as alarmists. They’re remembered for recognizing the scale of the crime as it was unfolding.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045462/1942-11-25/ed-1/seq
-2
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, September 29, 2025 7:36 PM

THG

Keep it real please


T

Guns Over Butter: Russia is Going Broke



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Tuesday, September 30, 2025 6:43 AM

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Kremlin officials are trying to preemptively deter the United States from providing Ukraine with Tomahawk missiles.

Kremlin Spokesperson Dmitry Peskov questioned on September 29 whether it would be Ukrainian or American forces that would be launching the Tomahawk missiles into Russia and questioned who would be conducting the targeting for the Ukrainian strikes.[22] Peskov claimed that the Kremlin must determine which forces will be involved in the process before it can determine its response. Peskov attempted to downplay the effect Ukrainian Tomahawk strikes could have on the Ukrainian war effort, claiming that Tomahawk missiles will not change battlefield dynamics.[23]

First Deputy Chairperson of the Russian State Duma Defense Committee Alexei Zhuravlev claimed that US provisions of Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine will be a new stage in the war, with the United States becoming a direct participant.[24] Zhuravlev threatened that Russia will respond by moving its Oreshnik ballistic missiles closer to the United States, possibly to Venezuela.

Chairperson of the Federation Council Committee on Constitutional Legislation and State Building Alexei Pushkov claimed on September 29 that Ukraine would conduct “dangerous” provocations with US-provided Tomahawk missiles, directly involving the United States in the war.[25]

The Kremlin is attempting to portray US Tomahawk deliveries to Ukraine as a dangerous escalation to deter the United States from sending such weapons to Ukraine, just as the Kremlin has previously employed similar tactics when the United States was discussing sending the Ukrainian Army Tactical Missile Systems (ATACMS), High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), F-16 fighter jets, and Abrams tanks.[26] These efforts are part of Russia’s long-standing reflexive control campaign that aims to push the West to make decisions that actually benefit Russia.

Previous Ukrainian strikes using US-provided long-range weapons systems did not trigger an escalatory Russian reaction, and the West and Ukraine have repeatedly violated Russia’s alleged “red lines” in the past with no resulting escalation, as the Kremlin warned.[27]

https://understandingwar.org/research/russia-ukraine/russian-offensive
-campaign-assessment-september-29-2025
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, September 30, 2025 6:49 AM

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Hungary’s Orban dismisses Ukraine’s sovereignty and independence

By Eric Malinowski | September 29, 2025, 01:48 PM

https://english.nv.ua/nation/hungary-s-orban-dismisses-ukraine-s-sover
eignty-50548879.html


Dismissing Kyiv’s reports of UAVs flying into Ukrainian airspace from Hungary, Hungarian PM Viktor Orban denied Ukraine being an independent or sovereign country, Hungarian outlet HVG.hu reported on Sept. 29.

“I believe my ministers, but let's say it [a drone] would have actually flown a few meters there, so what,” Orban said.

“Ukraine is not an independent country. Ukraine is not a sovereign country; Ukraine is financed by us, the West gives it funds, weapons.”

He insisted Hungary had no intention of attacking Ukraine and suggested Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy should focus on the war in eastern Ukraine instead.

“Ukraine is not at war with Hungary; it is at war with Russia. It should be concerned with the drones on its eastern border,” the PM said.

Orban then questioned the value of Russian agents flying reconnaissance UAVs into western Ukraine from Hungarian territory, suggesting it makes little sense, given that the main theater of the war is in the east. The PM apparently has not considered that Moscow would benefit from scouting the locations of Ukraine’s munitions plants in Zakarpattya Oblast, built as far away as possible from the frontline.

On September 26, Zelenskyy stated that Ukrainian troops had recently detected what were likely Hungarian drones near the Ukrainian-Hungarian border, which may have been conducting reconnaissance.

Hungarian Foreign Minister Péter Szijjártó responded harshly to Zelenskyy’s remarks about Hungarian drones in Ukraine, saying the Ukrainian president was “starting to lose his mind.”

Hungary’s Defense Ministry denied Zelenskyy’s statement, claiming the information “does not correspond to reality.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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