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Wednesday, June 11, 2025 2:08 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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"For three years, we’ve been warning that the Russians are preparing a provocation — specifically, plans to seize part of the Baltic states, declare sovereignty there, and cover it with nuclear weapons. This would demonstrate NATO's weakness and give Russia its greatest geopolitical victory,” the expert explained.


In the meantime, Baltic states have attempted to seize ships in international waters that they suspect of being part of a "ghost fleet", leading Russia to consider armed convoys for commercial ships.

We don't have to worry about a Russian provocation. The chihuahua nations are already yapping and snapping.

Signym, I strongly suspect you were raised on the Russian version of Baltic History. The Baltic Version of Baltic History goes like this:

While there has been a broad international consensus that the Baltic states were illegally occupied and annexed, the Soviet Union never acknowledged that they were forcefully taken over. The post-Soviet government of Russia maintains the claim that the incorporation of the Baltic states was in accordance with international law, and Russian school textbooks state that the Baltic states voluntarily joined the Soviet Union after home-grown popular socialist revolutions. As most Western governments maintained that Baltic sovereignty had not been legitimately overridden, they thus continued to recognize the Baltic states as sovereign political entities represented by the Baltic Legations, which functioned in Washington and elsewhere as governments in exile.

During the 1944–1991 Soviet occupation, many people from Russia and other parts of the former USSR were settled in the three Baltic countries, while the local languages, religion, and customs were suppressed in an "extremely violent and traumatic" occupation. Colonization of the three Baltic countries included mass executions, deportations, and repression of the native population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Baltic_states

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Wednesday, June 11, 2025 2:12 PM

THG


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

ZELENSKY et al fucked themselves hard by going after Russian strategic assets. Both Russia AND the USA have reason to be pissed. Russia says they aren't going to retaliate. Trump, tho, IS apparently retaliating by withholding weapons.

The current hellfire being rained down on Ukraine has nothing to do with Ukraine’s drone strike or their terrorist attack on a passenger train. (The saboteurs waited until a passenger train was on the bridge before blowing it, killing 7 and injuring over 100.) The current combined missile and drone attack needed to have been planned at least several weeks in advance- targets identified, missiles and drones programmed, etc etc. Russia's aerial attack is more probably related to their summer offensive, which seems to have started a couple of weeks ago.

A Russian source for the Duran, however, did say that in response to the terror attack on the passenger train, Russia is in the process of authorizing an assassination of some Ukrainian officials. And if some unintended people are killed ... oh well. Not sure if this is for real or just psyops to sow fear into Kiev's security state, but if it happens I won't be surprised.

Russia treats terrorists very differently than soldiers, and if they upgrade the SMO to an ATO (anti-terror operation) the gloves will come off even more. That includes assassinating those they decide are terrorists.

Meanwhile....

Quote:

Russia Expands Ground War Into Ukraine's Dnipropetrovsk Region For First Time

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-expands-ground-war-ukrai
nes-dnipropetrovsk-region-first-time





Gabbard warns of ‘nuclear holocaust’ in ominous social media video

The director of national intelligence said the world is “closer to the brink of nuclear annihilation than ever before.”

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard warned of a “nuclear holocaust” and chastised “warmongers” for bringing the world “closer to the brink of nuclear annihilation than ever before” in a foreboding video posted to social media on Tuesday.

In the three-minute video, Gabbard details a recent visit to Hiroshima, Japan to learn more about the aftermath of the U.S. nuclear attack on the city in 1945 during World War II. The video features footage of Gabbard’s trip and archival footage showing victims, interspersed with Gabbard speaking directly to camera about the consequences of a nuclear attack.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/10/tulsi-gabbard-nuclear-weapons
-00396586


It was said she was a Russian sympathizer from day one. Just like you comrade signym, just like you. You just don't have the courage to say it.

Gabbard is spreading Russian propaganda just like Trump. Trump was Jeffery Epstein's best friend for 15 years. Putin has the goods on Trump being a pedophile. It's that simple.



This may have nothing to do with Russia. You don't know the deliberations going on behind the scenes. May be related to IRAN. Trump is being advised "all options" related to Iran, and when they say "all" they mean INCLUDING NUCLEAR.

Long story: Iran is a NUCLEAR THRESHHOLD NATION. They have a stockpile of 60% enriched uranium. One more step and it becomes weapons grade. (You only need about 3% for power generation.) They have sophisticated missiles capable of withstanding the heat of re-entry without frying its electronics.

Netanyahu still was refusing a deal with Iran allowing appx 3% enrichment which means no deal. The only MILITARY way to deal with Iran's nuclear facilities, buried deep underground, is with a nuclear weapon.

So ....








Why would it be Iran comrade? You can't trigger a nuclear war with a country that doesn't have nukes. Besides, this is a Putin talking point. Instead of coming to Putin's aid so quickly, try thinking things through before you post. It will save you some embarrassment.

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Wednesday, June 11, 2025 2:37 PM

THG


T

RUSSIAN AIRCRAFT DESTROYED ON RUNWAY, IRAN REJECTS NUKE DEAL!






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Wednesday, June 11, 2025 2:53 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

ZELENSKY et al fucked themselves hard by going after Russian strategic assets. Both Russia AND the USA have reason to be pissed. Russia says they aren't going to retaliate. Trump, tho, IS apparently retaliating by withholding weapons.

The current hellfire being rained down on Ukraine has nothing to do with Ukraine’s drone strike or their terrorist attack on a passenger train. (The saboteurs waited until a passenger train was on the bridge before blowing it, killing 7 and injuring over 100.) The current combined missile and drone attack needed to have been planned at least several weeks in advance- targets identified, missiles and drones programmed, etc etc. Russia's aerial attack is more probably related to their summer offensive, which seems to have started a couple of weeks ago.

A Russian source for the Duran, however, did say that in response to the terror attack on the passenger train, Russia is in the process of authorizing an assassination of some Ukrainian officials. And if some unintended people are killed ... oh well. Not sure if this is for real or just psyops to sow fear into Kiev's security state, but if it happens I won't be surprised.

Russia treats terrorists very differently than soldiers, and if they upgrade the SMO to an ATO (anti-terror operation) the gloves will come off even more. That includes assassinating those they decide are terrorists.

Meanwhile....

Quote:

Russia Expands Ground War Into Ukraine's Dnipropetrovsk Region For First Time

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-expands-ground-war-ukrai
nes-dnipropetrovsk-region-first-time


THG:
Gabbard warns of ‘nuclear holocaust’ in ominous social media video

The director of national intelligence said the world is “closer to the brink of nuclear annihilation than ever before.”

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard warned of a “nuclear holocaust” and chastised “warmongers” for bringing the world “closer to the brink of nuclear annihilation than ever before” in a foreboding video posted to social media on Tuesday.

In the three-minute video, Gabbard details a recent visit to Hiroshima, Japan to learn more about the aftermath of the U.S. nuclear attack on the city in 1945 during World War II. The video features footage of Gabbard’s trip and archival footage showing victims, interspersed with Gabbard speaking directly to camera about the consequences of a nuclear attack.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/10/tulsi-gabbard-nuclear-weapons
-00396586


It was said [BY WHO?] she was a Russian sympathizer from day one. Just like you comrade signym, just like you. You just don't have the courage to say it.

Gabbard is spreading Russian propaganda just like Trump. Trump was Jeffery Epstein's best friend for 15 years. Putin has the goods on Trump being a pedophile. It's that simple.

SIGNY:
This may have nothing to do with Russia. You don't know the deliberations going on behind the scenes. May be related to IRAN. Trump is being advised "all options" related to Iran, and when they say "all" they mean INCLUDING NUCLEAR.

Long story: Iran is a NUCLEAR THRESHHOLD NATION. They have a stockpile of 60% enriched uranium. One more step and it becomes weapons grade. (You only need about 3% for power generation.) They have sophisticated missiles capable of withstanding the heat of re-entry without frying its electronics.

Netanyahu still was refusing a deal with Iran allowing appx 3% enrichment which means no deal. The only MILITARY way to deal with Iran's nuclear facilities, buried deep underground, is with a nuclear weapon.

So ....

THG:
Why would it be Iran comrade? You can't trigger a nuclear war with a country that doesn't have nukes. Besides, this is a Putin talking point. Instead of coming to Putin's aid so quickly, try thinking things through before you post. It will save you some embarrassment.



Not embarrassed.
It's not all about Russia.
Perhaps you're unfamiliar with the "nuclear threshhold" concept and the non-proliferation treaty.
People familiar with nuclear weapons treaties, who have done inspections for nuclear treaties, are worried about it.
I'm not smarter about the issue than he is and neither are you.



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Wednesday, June 11, 2025 3:22 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

War Brewing? US Prepares Departure Of All Nonessential Staff From Iraq, Kuwait, Bahrain Embassies

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/war-brewing-us-prepares-departu
re-all-nonessential-staff-iraq-kuwait-bahrain-embassies


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US military authorizes voluntary departure of troops' dependents across Mideast, officials say

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/us-prepares-order-departure-nonessential-175
510594.html


See what I mean?

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Wednesday, June 11, 2025 3:39 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


#Rootin4Putin

Fuck Ukraine.

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Thursday, June 12, 2025 3:27 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Just to drive a point home, THG:

Israel considering military strike on Iran, sources say
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/national-international/israel-consider
ing-military-strike-on-iran-sources-say/3766314
/

Boy, you REALLY think you know it all, dontcha? And on that base of complete, utter bullshit, you think you're gonna tell me what I'm thinking and where my 'sympathies' are?

You've got Russia on the brain, dood.

Oh, and BTW ...Russia is going to win in Ukraine.



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Thursday, June 12, 2025 5:12 AM

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Russian developers are increasingly relying on Chinese components to integrate artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning (ML) capabilities into Russian drones and expand the use of AI/ML drones on the frontlines in Ukraine. Ukraine's Main Military Intelligence Directorate's (GUR) War&Sanctions project reported on June 9 that Russian forces are actively using V2U strike unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) in the Sumy direction.[3] The War&Sanctions project reported that V2U drones can autonomously search and select targets using AI and that these drones are based on the Chinese Leetop A203 minicomputer and a central processor with an American NVIDIA Jetson Orin module. The War&Sanctions project reported that V2U drones only have one GPS module, which the GUR assessed indicated that Russian forces gave up on using satellite navigation due to Ukrainian electronic warfare (EW) effectiveness. The War&Sanctions project added that V2Us are likely using "computer vision" for navigation, which allows the drone to compare the image obtained from the drones' cameras and pre-loaded photos of the area. The War&Sanctions project noted that Russian drone operators can control the V2U drones as first-person-view (FPV) drones via LTE connection and that an installed modem-router allows the drone to work with Ukrainian mobile operator SIM cards. The War&Sanctions project reported that the base of the modem is of Chinese origin despite Russian markings. The War&Sanctions project added that Russian developers assembled V2U drones mainly with Chinese-made components such as the engine, GPS module, servos, solid-state drive, rangefinder, speed controllers, and batteries. ISW recently assessed that Russia has been increasingly scaling up the development of drones with machine vision in Spring 2025 and increased their use on the battlefield in May 2025.[4]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-force-generation
-and-technological-adaptations-update-june-11-2025


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Thursday, June 12, 2025 5:15 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
#Rootin4Putin

Fuck Ukraine.

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The Kremlin continues to attack Ukraine using rhetoric presenting an anachronistic reading of Ukraine's history, denying the existence of an independent Ukrainian language and culture, and discrediting the Ukrainian government. Russian Presidential Aide Vladimir Medinsky claimed to the Wall Street Journal (WSJ) in an interview published on June 11 that the war in Ukraine is a war between two countries with a shared language and culture and likened the war to "a conflict between two brothers."[4] Medinsky's statement is consistent with other Kremlin rhetoric attempting to portray Ukraine as lacking an independent identity and statehood from Russia — reflective of Russia's war goals that seek Ukraine's complete capitulation to Russia and the installation of a pro-Russian puppet government.[5]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-11-2025-0


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Russian officials continue to promote anti-NATO and anti-Western rhetoric, likely as part of the Kremlin's continued efforts to prepare Russian society for a potential future war against NATO. Ryabkov claimed in the TASS interview published on June 9 that NATO expansion is an "acute problem" and a "root cause" of the contradictions between the United States and Russia, and that it will be impossible to resolve the war in Ukraine without solving the problem of NATO.[14] Ryabkov stated that the Kremlin demanded a legally binding, long-term guarantee from the United States and NATO in December 2021 that NATO would not expand further nor deploy long-range weapons near the NATO-Russia border.[15] Ryabkov reiterated that the Kremlin's position on this matter remains unchanged and called for NATO to reduce the size of the NATO contingent in Eastern Europe. Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) Spokesperson Maria Zakharova overstated on June 11 NATO defensive measures in Eastern Europe and claimed that NATO General Secretary Mark Rutte is trying to intimidate the population of NATO countries by saying that Russia is a threat to NATO.[16] Russian officials have long used anti-Western and anti-NATO rhetoric to justify and consolidate domestic support for a protracted war against Ukraine and to prepare the Russian domestic audience for a potential future conflict against NATO.[17]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-11-2025-0


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Stark statistics paint a picture of huge Ukraine war losses

Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine has proven extremely costly for the Russian military, with the Ukrainian General Staff announcing that one million Russian soldiers have been killed since the war began on February 24, 2022.

By Ryan Fahey and John O'sullivan | 08:06 ET, 12 Jun 2025

https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/putin-russia-ukraine-war-353796
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Historically, Russia sacrificed an estimated 27 to 42 million people during World War II to overcome the Nazi invasion. Putin likely views the current losses as a necessary step toward national glory.

Dr Stephen Hall, a political science lecturer at the University of Bath, suggests Putin will persist in this bloody pursuit, convinced of eventual victory, reports the Mirror.

In a discussion with The Sun, Dr Hall remarked: "Putin believes he's winning the war. The Russian army is moving forward like it or not. He believes that he can outlast the West, that the West is weak."

Dr. Hall suggests that Russia is employing a "meat assault" strategy, reminiscent of tactics used in World War Two. This approach, favored by ruthless Soviet leaders like Stalin, involves overwhelming the enemy with sheer numbers - a case of "ten men to every rifle".

This brutal tactic means soldiers are expected to pick up the weapons of their fallen comrades and continue fighting until they too are killed. Despite the high casualty rate, this method eventually led to the breaching of enemy frontlines during the Soviet era.

According to Dr. Hall, Russians' ability to endure hardship makes them ideal candidates for this sacrificial strategy. In many nations, such a significant loss of young lives could lead to societal collapse, but the Russian populace remains calm, largely due to misinformation from the Kremlin.

Dr. Hall explains: "They're simply not going to be told, especially in the poorer areas where Russia is recruiting - like Buryatia and Bashkortostan and elsewhere."

As international pressure mounts on Kyiv and Moscow to resolve the conflict, Dr. Hall remains skeptical about the prospects of lasting peace. He believes that even if Ukraine were to cede some of its territory, Putin would not accept it as he views himself as defending the motherland against Western influence.

In Dr. Hall's words: "Putin has been very clear. They're not fighting Ukraine. Ukraine is the battleground. They're fighting the West."

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Thursday, June 12, 2025 12:26 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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War Brewing? US Prepares Departure Of All Nonessential Staff From Iraq, Kuwait, Bahrain Embassies


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/war-brewing-us-prepares-departu
re-all-nonessential-staff-iraq-kuwait-bahrain-embassies


Quote:

US military authorizes voluntary departure of troops' dependents across Mideast, officials say

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/us-prepares-order-departure-nonessential-175
510594.html


See what I mean?






Wow, every time I challenge you; you go off topic or post subjective bullshit to make yourself look correct. This time it’s both. Our troops are preparing for repercussions from Iran due to Israel potentially bombing Iran. And while it is about stopping Iran from getting the bomb, they surely don’t have one. Nor are they suggesting they intend to use one.

Putin has; Russia has been threating that forever. They keep suggesting if Europe does this, or America does that, including helping Ukraine, it could ignite a global nuclear war. No, Gabbard was pushing Putins' propaganda for him.

Again, I'll remind you that zerohedge is a propaganda blog you use when the facts don't match what you want them to. So you go to a place that makes them up. I'll repost the thread to remind you.

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Thursday, June 12, 2025 8:40 PM

SIGNYM

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No, son. YOU posted that Tulsi Gabbard was warning against a nuclear risk, and since YOU posted in the Russia thread, the implication was that it's a RUSSIAN nuclear threat.

I was redirecting your RUSSIA!RUSSIA! paranoia to another, MORE LIKELY RISK, which is the mideast.


Quote:

Israel Launches Airstrikes On Tehran: Stock Futures Plunge; Oil And Gold Soar


I was right, and you were wrong.
You should have posted in the "Who Hates Israel" thread.

You have Russia on the brain. Stop it. Seriously. It's bad for you.


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Thursday, June 12, 2025 9:07 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
No, son. YOU posted that Tulsi Gabbard was warning against a nuclear risk, and since YOU posted in the Russia thread, the implication was that it's a RUSSIAN nuclear threat.

I was redirecting your RUSSIA!RUSSIA! paranoia to another, MORE LIKELY RISK, which is the mideast.


Quote:

Israel Launches Airstrikes On Tehran: Stock Futures Plunge; Oil And Gold Soar


I was right, and you were wrong.
You should have posted in the "Who Hates Israel" thread.

You have Russia on the brain. Stop it. Seriously. It's bad for you.






Russia has been threating nukes forever. Iran has none. Russia keeps suggesting if Europe does this, or America does that, including helping Ukraine, it could ignite a global nuclear war. It’s to frighten everyone.

No, Gabbard is pushing Putins' propaganda for him. She is a Russian sympathizer. It was all over the news when she was suggested to become the head of intelligence.

I love that you are having a hissy fit with all the I’m right, you are wrong shit. Although, you have defending Russia on the brain. Stop it. Seriously. It's bad for you.

And I guess I was right. Israel is bombing Iran as I type this. This is why we were sending out alarms to our embassies. Not because Iran was going to start firing nukes and start WW3.

T


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Thursday, June 12, 2025 9:18 PM

SIGNYM

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You'd rather twist your brain into a pretzel than admit you're wrong, even to yourself.

Got it.

Oh, BTW - Russia is going to win in Ukraine.


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Thursday, June 12, 2025 9:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You'd rather twist your brain into a pretzel than admit you're wrong, even to yourself.

Got it.






You say what you think and I say what I think. Trust me, I'm very confident anyone who reads our posts will see who's the con and propagandist comrade.

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Thursday, June 12, 2025 9:35 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Tell your brain worms to shut the fuck up Ted.

You're finished.

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Friday, June 13, 2025 8:23 AM

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Oh, BTW - Russia is going to win in Ukraine.

Putin Has Won: The US Government Now Speaks His Narrative

And Trump Does Not Even Have To Give The Orders

By Phillips P. Obrien | Jun 13, 2025

https://phillipspobrien.substack.com/p/putin-has-won-the-us-government
-now


Over the last few days, if you have not noticed, the two most important US cabinet members who have authority for American foreign and strategic policy released or made statements that previously would have been unthinkable and caused massive outrage. In this case, however, the statements caused only tiny ripples of disquiet. This is important—as now the US government is spreading the Russian narrative, and hardly a word of protest is said. And certainly there is never a retraction or walking back of things that would have been seen as extraordinary only a few months ago.

Yesterday the US State Department released an official statement congratulating Russia and Russians on their national day. It was signed by Secretary of State Marco Rubio and couched as a statement by Rubio himself. It started with this quote.

The United States remains committed to supporting the Russian people as they continue to build on their aspirations for a brighter future.
https://www.state.gov/releases/2025/06/russia-national-day/

Actually, the Russian people through their government are making claims to seize Ukrainian territory and kill Ukrainians, so needless to say people in the State Department, including Rubio himself, had to know that this was being deliberately provocative and would be widely noticed at this extraordinary time.

At the same time, in a series of Congressional testimonies over the last few days, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth made a few notable statements. When it came to sanctions against Russia, Hegseth admitted that the US was, for all of Trump’s threats, not going to ramp up sanctions on Russia and that he (Hegseth) was fine with that. He claimed that the US did not have to use “every tool” at its disposal to make the Russians agree to peace.

This was only the start of a remarkable series of claims that the Secretary of Defense would make to different Congressional committees. Hegseth, for instance, refused to call Ukraine the victim in the war and refused to say that he wants Ukraine to “win” the war. https://kyivindependent.com/republicans-press-pentagon-chief-over-trum
ps-plan-to-end-russias-war-against-ukraine-politico-reports
/

He even prevaricated on the question of whether the US would respond to a NATO article 5 request if Russia invaded a NATO country. https://x.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1933281069756793172

All of this has happened in the last few days—which btw saw the expiry of Trump’s two-week deadline during which he was to decide whether to bring in harsher sanctions on Russia. That deadline passed without the slightest comment from Trump or the Press—though the next time Trump makes one of his fake threats, we will undoubtedly hear about how he really, really, really might bring in harsh sanctions that time.

Now why are the Rubio and Hegseth statements worthy of note? They are actually evidence of the same phenomenon—Trump cabinet members are now speaking the Russian narrative instinctively, regularly and without the slightest hesitation. Russian reflexive control has so taken over US government thinking that the US national security state instantly acts in such a way to reinforce the Russian position.

I’m sure Trump did not have to give the State Department orders to congratulate Russia on its national day, nor did Trump tell Hegseth specifically to downplay any new sanctions on Russia or to the try and avoid the question of not honoring the US commitment to NATO—however both the heads of the State and Defense Departments are now operating with these assumptions inbuilt into their positions.

They know that this is what Trump would want them to do—and they do it without hesitation and prompting.

Its represents almost the complete triumph of Russian reflexive control—a concept I started talking about a few years ago.

At that point I mentioned how the Biden Administration’s fears of Russian nuclear escalation had been shaped by the Russian narrative so that the Russians had created a fear narrative that was shaping US policy.

This is worse, far worse. Now the US government on almost every foreign policy question and on a daily basis, speaks the Russian narrative. And they do it without Trump having to give orders for them to do so.

Putin has won.

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The Kremlin is continuing efforts to prepare the Russian defense industrial base (DIB) for a protracted war with Ukraine and a potential future war with NATO. Russian President Vladimir Putin opened the June 12 round of government discussions about the Russian State Rearmament Program for 2027-2036 that focused on the modernization and improvement of Russian air defense, space, drone, and robotic systems.[13] Putin claimed that Russia’s air defense systems have downed over 80,000 air targets since February 2022, 7,500 of which Putin claimed were operational-tactical and cruise missiles. Putin claimed that almost all these missiles were Western-manufactured. Putin claimed that the war in Ukraine has demonstrated Russia’s need for a "universal air defense system" capable of intercepting all projectiles regardless of their type. Putin also stated that the State Rearmament Program must focus on developing and proliferating advanced digital technologies and artificial intelligence (AI) in Russian military systems and equipment and that Russia must develop a group of unspecified spacecraft to increase Russia's reconnaissance and real-time command and control capabilities. Putin’s statements regarding the need for enhanced Russian air defense systems are likely in part a response to Ukraine’s “Operation Spider Web,” in which Ukrainian forces demonstrated an ability to achieve operational surprise and launch drones against airbases in Russia's deep rear, highlighting the inability of air defenses in these areas to repel short-range Ukrainian first-person view (FPV) drone strikes.[14]

It is unclear how Russia intends to finance these large-scale modernization efforts. Russia’s DIB struggled to fulfill domestic and foreign contractual obligations even before the West implemented sanctions against Russia in response to the full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022.[15] Russia is also investing in the modernization and expansion of the Russian Navy and will need to reconstitute the Black Sea Fleet (BSF), which has suffered significant damage from Ukrainian strikes.[16] Increased oil prices as a result of Israeli strikes against Iran may help Russia finance some of these efforts should oil prices remain high in the medium- to long-term. The Kremlin is likely employing lessons learned in Russia’s war against Ukraine to inform adaptations of Russia’s military and preparing Russia’s DIB for a protracted war against Ukraine and a potential confrontation with NATO.[17]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
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Ukrainian forces continue to conduct long-range strikes against Russia's defense industrial base. The Ukrainian General Staff reported on June 14 that Ukrainian forces struck the Nevinnomyssk Azot Plant in Stavropol Krai on the night of June 13 to 14, which is one of the key manufacturers of basic components for Russian explosives, ammunition, and rocket fuel.[15] Ukrainian Center for Countering Disinformation Head Lieutenant Andriy Kovalenko reported that the Nevinnomyssk Azot plant annually produces up to a million tons of ammonia and over a million tons of ammonium nitrate — a key component for explosives and artillery shells.[16] Kovalenko also noted that the plant synthesizes melamine, acetic acid, methanol, and potassium nitrate — all of which can be used to produce land mines, reactive charges, and grenades. Stavropol Krai Governor Vladimir Vladimirov claimed on June 14 that drone debris fell near the industrial zone in Nevinnomyssk.[17] Russian milbloggers posted footage showing a large fire at an industrial zone in Nevinnomyssk on June 14.[18] The Ukrainian General Staff also reported that Ukrainian forces struck several of the Novokuybyshevsk Petrochemical Company's facilities in Samara Oblast on the night of June 13 to 14 and that the facilities produce explosive material components for the Russian military.[19] Kovalenko reported that Ukrainian forces struck the Novokuybyshev Catalyst Plant in Samara Oblast, which produces catalysts used for oil refineries that produce aviation and rocket fuel as well as diesel. Kovalenko noted that the plant repurposes catalytic material for fuel, lubricants, and explosives.[20] Ukrainian officials announced that they are assessing the damage in the aftermath of the strikes.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
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Putin Has Won



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Russia says it’s winning. The data says otherwise.

Russia has paid an extraordinary price in blood and equipment for marginal gains in Ukraine.

By Riley McCabe | June 12, 2025

Riley McCabe is an associate fellow for the Warfare, Irregular Threats and Terrorism Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/interactive/2025/russia-losing
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Last week, Ukraine carried out one of its most ambitious operations of the war using more than 100 drones to damage dozens of military aircraft at multiple air bases deep inside Russia. The attack, which was planned over many months and launched from within Russia, showed how Kyiv can use limited tools to achieve significant effects.

Russia, by contrast, has spent the past 17 months attempting to grind forward in Ukraine with brute force — and according to new data, it has little to show for its efforts.

These efforts have yielded fewer than 1,800 square miles of new territory seized since January 2024, an outcome that decisively falls short of Moscow’s objective to greatly expand its control of Ukrainian territory. Russian advances in some areas have been slower than Allied forces during the grueling World War I offensive in the Somme, a battle which became a byword for costly and futile military operations.

For these marginal gains, Russia has paid an extraordinary price in blood and equipment. Russian fatalities in Ukraine now exceed the total number of Soviet and Russian soldiers killed in every war since World War II combined. By this summer, Russia will likely pass 1 million total military casualties.

Graphic shows fatalities of Russian soldiers in past wars

Russia has also consistently lost 2 to 5 times more fighting vehicles than Ukraine on the battlefield, including roughly 1,200 armored fighting vehicles, 3,200 infantry fighting vehicles and 1,900 tanks since January 2024.

This brutal reality challenges the narrative that Russia is dictating the terms of the conflict. Yes, Russian forces have been on the offensive since early 2024 (with a limited number of exceptions). But initiative alone is not victory. What matters is not just what Russia has gained, but also what it has lost in exchange.

Russian troops continue to face an extensively fortified front line consisting of minefields, trenches, anti-armor obstacles and artillery positions that shred assaults. Ukraine has also saturated the battlefield with drones, which now account for the majority of battlefield deaths. Ukraine’s defense-in-depth strategy, bolstered by U.S. and European support, has transformed the battlefield into a war of attrition that favors defenders and punishes attackers. Although the Kremlin appears willing to absorb this punishment in a bid to outlast Kyiv, it does not seem to be able to do more than slowly attempt to grind forward.

Indeed, the Kremlin’s path to victory is not through battlefield brilliance. It is through Western abandonment. Without U.S. support, Ukraine could quickly run short of critical munitions, fighting vehicles, air defenses and precision strike capabilities, giving Russian forces an advantage on the battlefield. The psychological blow of U.S. withdrawal could also shatter Ukrainian morale, accelerating collapse not through conquest, but through exhaustion, as happened to Austria-Hungary and the Russian Empire in World War I.

Putin is betting that political fatigue in Washington will deliver him what his military cannot. That bet extends to the negotiating table. Despite Russia’s limited gains and mounting losses, Moscow has shown little interest in serious diplomacy, insisting on maximalist terms while launching new attacks. But beneath the bluster lies a far weaker hand than many in the West assume.

The United States has leverage. But it needs to wield it. U.S. policymakers should evaluate options to extend and accelerate military assistance to Ukraine, particularly air defense systems to protect Ukrainian troops and civilians alike, long-range precision strike systems to target Russian airfields and command hubs, and munitions to repel Russian assaults across an extended front. The United States should also raise the economic costs of continued war on Moscow. Congress is currently considering bipartisan legislation to impose new sanctions on Russia and secondary sanctions on countries enabling Russia’s wartime economy. One analysis suggests that secondary sanctions could cut Russian oil revenue by 20 percent while raising U.S. gas prices by just 15 cents a gallon.

Russia is not on the march. It is bleeding personnel and equipment for mere meters of ground. And it will only translate into victory if Washington lets it.

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We must listen to the Baltic States. The Russian hybrid threat is growing

Western Europe has too often accused the easterly Nato allies of crying wolf. This is a grave mistake

By Samuel Ramani | 15 June 2025 8:28pm BST

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/15/russia-putin-nato-europe-b
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During his visit to London last week, Nato Secretary General Mark Rutte issued this dire warning about the threat of Russian aggression: “Russia could be ready to use military force against Nato within five years. Let’s not kid ourselves, we are all on the Eastern flank now.” Rutte warned that Russia produces more ammunition in three months than Nato manufactures in a year and spotlit Chinese technology’s critical role in reconstituting Russia’s military arsenal.

Rutte’s stark warning aimed to snap European countries out of their state of complacency but received a mixed reception on the continent. As Russia helplessly watched the destruction of some of its most-prized strategic bombers and struggles to gain a decisive offensive advantage in eastern Ukraine, Rutte’s framing seemed hyperbolic to many in Western Europe.

For the Baltic States, however, Rutte’s rhetoric was not nearly strident enough. Due to his past support for the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline and sluggish approach to increasing defence spending as Dutch Prime Minister, Rutte was already an unpopular figure in the Baltic States. Rutte’s latest comments reawakened those critiques as they depicted Russia as a long-term danger rather than an urgent threat to Nato’s security.

The Baltic States have compelling reasons to be frustrated with Rutte’s incrementalism. By illegally transiting its shadow fleet of oil tankers through the Baltic Sea, weaponising migration across land borders and carrying out disruptive cyberattacks, Russia has demonstrated that it is on a war footing with the Baltic States. By dismissing these aggressive actions as mere hybrid threats, Nato risks trivialising an existential threat to the cogency of its alliance.

The mood of frustration in the Baltic States is especially pronounced because of the long build-up to Russia’s current escalations against them. When I spoke to senior Estonian officials last month, they argued that Russia never truly viewed the Baltic States as sovereign after they restored their independence in 1991.

As Estonia pushed for Nato membership during the 1990s, Russian ultranationalists began issuing apocalyptic threats. After earning a plurality of votes in the 1993 legislative elections, LDPR leader and ultranationalist firebrand Vladimir Zhirinovsky warned Estonians to flee to Sweden on fishing boats and threatened to deport the Estonians who stayed home to Siberia.

But instead of being recognised for presciently warning about the Russian threat, the Baltic States were all-too-often accused of crying wolf.

Even after Russia displayed its true hand by illegally annexing Crimea in 2014 and launching a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the Baltic States still struggled to get their message heard. In response to tightening sanctions against Belarus, President Alexander Lukashenko warned in May 2021 that he would allow drugs and migrants to flood into European Union (EU) territory. Lukashenko’s threats came to pass as illegal migrants overwhelmed Latvia and Lithuania’s border defences in the autumn of 2021. Despite the scale of this threat, the EU refused to finance the construction of a border wall on Lithuania’s frontiers.

In response to the unresponsiveness of key Nato countries to their concerns, the Baltic States have taken matters into their own hands. From announcing 5 per cent of GDP defence spending targets to Lithuania’s investment of $1.2 billion in border security with Belarus and Russia, three of Nato’s smallest member states are setting a positive example for the rest of the alliance.

These states are also trying to steer Nato towards committing to a firmer response to security threats that fall below the threshold of conventional war. Their argument is that Russia’s hybrid threats are steps on an escalation ladder that could lead to full-scale war. Lithuanian officials justified this contention by arguing that shadow-fleet ships could escalate from cutting undersea cables to destroying liquefied natural gas terminals and use disruptive GPS jamming to down civilian aeroplanes. Based on its track record, Russia would maintain a level of deniability around these aggressive actions and any Baltic retaliation could lead to an invasion.

As Nato’s Article 5 security guarantees do not clearly extend to hybrid threats, former Estonian president Toomas Hendrik Ilves and former Lithuanian foreign minister Gabrielius Landsbergis recently called for the creation of a new permanent discussion forum on hybrid threats and the potential construction of a Baltic regional security organisation with robust military capabilities.

In the European Parliament and Nato gatherings, Baltic officials are calling for European countries to re-evaluate their risk aversion in confronting Russian aggression head-on and to more thoroughly sanction the financial infrastructure that supports the shadow fleet. The efficacy of Ukraine’s cross-border operations and the limitations of Russia’s retaliatory capacity has caused some Baltic officials to view an exclusive focus on deterrence as obsolete.

Ahead of the Nato summit in the Hague later this month, there will be a major focus on Ukraine’s future within the organisation. Time should also be devoted to addressing the concerns of the Nato alliance’s three most vulnerable and committed participants.

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Putin Isn’t Actually Enjoying This

Trump is turning out to be a liability for the Kremlin.

By Andrew Ryvkin | June 16, 2025

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2025/06/putin-isnt-a
ctually-enjoying-this/683183
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Within weeks of Donald Trump’s second inauguration, pundits began saying that his return to office opened new doors for Vladimir Putin, offering Moscow opportunities it hadn’t seen in years. The deference the new administration afforded the Kremlin appeared to be rivaled only by its hostility toward its own national-security establishment.

Trump entered negotiations to end the war in Ukraine by presenting Putin with a bouquet of inexplicable concessions. Washington ruled out NATO membership for Ukraine—then proposed that it might recognize the illegally occupied Crimean peninsula as Russian (in a reversal of long-standing U.S. policy), allow Russia to retain most of the territory it had seized since 2022, and lift sanctions. The U.S. even sided against its European allies when they presented a resolution at the United Nations condemning Moscow—and then it drafted a peace proposal that omitted any criticism of Russia.

You’d think Putin would be delighted by all of this. Instead, he’s been thrown on his heels. Trump’s efforts at rapprochement have left Russia’s propaganda apparatus, foreign policy, and economic stability in worse shape than they were before January 20.

Whatever the intent, Washington has robbed the Kremlin of its north star: opposition to the United States. After years of routinely threatening to drown the Eastern Seaboard, Moscow can no longer afford the luxury of calling America its enemy No. 1. Thanks to Trump, the Kremlin now has to portray Washington as a rational negotiating partner—even as American-made missiles continue to rain down on Russian troops. The title of Russia’s civilizational enemy has been reassigned to the European Union. The Russian propaganda machine has some flexibility, but being locked in an existential struggle with the Netherlands is far less flattering to the imperial mindset than going up against the world’s leading superpower.

And so Russia’s information mills seem to be glitching out. In a May 25 Truth Social post, Trump wrote that Putin was absolutely “CRAZY” for bombing Ukrainian cities in the middle of negotiations. “We are really grateful to the Americans and to President Trump personally,” Putin’s spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said in response. The last time I scanned Russia’s top propaganda sites, I couldn’t find a single hostile reference to the United States. On May 20, Konstantin Kosachev, the deputy speaker of the Russian senate, described two emerging camps: a “Russian American” one “discussing prospects for achieving peace,” and a “Ukrainian European” one “exploring options for continuing the war.”

The reversal isn’t just a problem for Putin’s media proxies. The Russian leader himself has been forced to improvise. For years, Putin claimed that direct talks with Ukraine were impossible because President Volodymyr Zelensky’s government was illegitimate and, more important, Ukraine wasn’t a real country—merely a proxy for the American imperial project. He framed the war as a conflict that only Russia and the U.S. could resolve, in a Yalta-style deal between great powers—preferably in occupied Yalta itself. Along came Trump, who repeatedly sidelined Ukraine and the EU to speak with Putin one-on-one. Putin looked set to get what he wanted. But then that changed, as all things Trump tend to do: By May, Putin wasn’t carving up Europe with Trump—he was competing with Zelensky to convince the White House that the other side was out of control.

Trump’s point man for Russia is the billionaire real-estate developer Steve Witkoff, whose bewilderingly affectionate approach to Putin continues to flummox the Western media. His meetings with the Russian dictator last for hours. He forgoes American translators (relying instead on Russian intelligence assets), sits alone with top Kremlin negotiators, and emerges voicing Moscow’s talking points without even being able to name the Ukrainian regions Russia claims as its own. Even seasoned diplomats have to resist being crushed by Russia’s imperial grandeur when they are received like state dignitaries inside the Kremlin complex. Someone who devoted his life to building condos barely stands a chance. Still, the Kremlin surely knows that Witkoff has no authority over what America can offer Russia. Only Trump does. For now, the man trying to rebuild the Russian empire is forced to negotiate with the king of Manhattan real estate.

And negotiate he must, because Trump has made forging a settlement between Russia and Ukraine a defining foreign-policy objective. The goal is an elusive one: Washington has so far failed to secure even a 30-day cease-fire. On May 1, the administration threatened to withdraw from the peace talks. Many in the West expected that this would translate into a win for the Kremlin: Trump, they assumed, would abandon Ukraine and strike a separate deal with Moscow. But Russia has reason to be wary that a thwarted Trump administration might not prove so amenable. The U.S. president apparently wants a diplomatic victory, and if he feels that he’s been pushed aside, he may have less reason to end arms shipments to Ukraine—especially now that Kyiv is purchasing munitions—and more reason to blame Moscow for sabotaging the peace process.

For the Kremlin, standing between Trump and the Nobel Peace Prize is risky, but agreeing to a cease-fire while Russia is making steady, if incremental, gains on the battlefield is a step too far. So it opted for a third path: Putin held a rare late-night press conference inviting Ukraine to bilateral negotiations, dodging the cease-fire while handing Trump a symbolic win that he could sell as a breakthrough. For the Russian dictator, whose foreign and domestic policy is shaped by Brioni-clad men playing by prison-yard rules, the need to appease the U.S. president in this way is a distinctly uncomfortable—and demeaning—shift from the predictable antagonism of the Joe Biden years.

Trump frequently holds out the prospect of lifting sanctions or striking lucrative deals as incentives for Moscow to end the war. Russia was even spared from Trump’s sweeping tariffs. But what the U.S. can offer Russia is ultimately underwhelming. The sanctions that hurt Russia the most—an oil-export ban, the freezing of two-thirds of its foreign reserves, and its exclusion from the SWIFT bank-to-bank payment network—all came from the EU. Russian exports to the United States were at their peak in 2011—before the annexation of Crimea, the full-scale war in Ukraine, and the U.S. energy boom—and amounted to just $34.6 billion worth of goods. That figure offers little hope for meaningful bilateral trade, especially now.

What does matter to Russia is oil sales. And in the months before the renewed conflict between Israel and Iran, oil prices dropped by 20 percent, largely because of the Trump administration’s global tariff war. This forced Moscow to revise its federal budget for 2025–26; triple this year’s expected budget deficit, from 0.5 to 1.7 percent of GDP; and, as a result, tap its fiscal reserves for $5.51 billion, or about one-tenth of its liquid assets, to balance the budget. It also cost Russia $39 billion in anticipated hydrocarbon revenue—more than the proposed deals with the U.S. could make up for. In other words, without imposing a single new sanction, Trump has significantly intensified fiscal pressure on the Kremlin simply by dint of his erratic economic policies.

Washington’s public stance on Russia has certainly changed. One popularly circulated YouTube clip shows Secretary of State Marco Rubio refusing to call Putin a war criminal during a House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing on May 21. But as someone who once worked with the Kremlin (I produced a talk show for Russian state media in the late 2000s), I can assure you: Putin would much rather be labeled a war criminal with oil at $70 a barrel than a rational leader looking to end the war with oil at $56.

During the first three years of Russia’s all-out war in Ukraine, the United States and the EU presented a united front against Russia that proved, perhaps paradoxically, manageable for the Kremlin, in terms of both propaganda and strategic positioning. Trump has shattered that coherence, and now the Kremlin finds itself in an uncomfortable position, despite its triumphalist rhetoric and maximalist demands: It’s scrambling to keep pace with an American president who has no idea where he’s going.

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Russia-Ukraine war
The Kerch Bridge is ‘doomed’

Series of attacks on the bridge suggests Ukraine’s determination to sever the link to the Russian mainland at all costs.

By Danylo Hawaleshka | 16 Jun 2025

https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2025/6/16/the-kerch-bridge-is-doomed

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Tuesday, June 17, 2025 12:54 PM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


There's been a "land bridge" to Crimea for over two years. The Kerch Bridge is militarily irrelevant as it now serves only civilian traffic.

Of course, if Ukraine wants to target civilians (AGAIN) I suppose that's their choice.

But that's not a war I'd want to start with Russia. Russia is very serious about terrorism. Remember Grozny?

So far, despite propaganda otherwise, Russia hasn't targeted civilians. Or scheduled political or military assasinations. But if Russia turns their SMO into an ATO, that changes.

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Largest Russian Strikes In Months Hit Ukrainian Capital, Killing 15 & Wounding Over 100
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2025 - 07:35 AM

So far, that's almost the exact equivalent to the # of passengers killed or wounded in Ukraine's terror attack on a passenger train.

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Russia overnight unleashed one of its largest and sustained attacks on the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv in recent months, resulting in 15 people killed and over one hundred wounded.

The assault, which lasted some ten hours, involved a coordinated barrage of drones, ballistic, and cruise missiles - and severely impacted residential areas, including a direct hit on a nine-story apartment building in the city's Solomyanskyi district.
Via Al Jazeera

Part of the building collapsed after being struck by Shahed drones and a ballistic missile. Emergency crews were responding to the smoke-filled scene through the morning hours.

Mayor Vitali Klitschko said that "every minute the number of injured and dead is increasing, we cannot say for certain how many casualties there have been."

Speaking to journalists at the scene, Kyiv Mayor Vitali Klitschko said that “every minute the number of injured and dead is increasing, we cannot say for certain how many casualties there have been.”

The aftermath of the attack has been documented at two dozen separate sites across Kyiv’s Solomianskyi, Sviatoshynskyi, Darnytskyi, Dniprovskyi, Podilskyi and Obolonskyi districts.

City authorities indicated fires raged into Tuesday in at least to locations of the capital, and further described:

"Today, the enemy spared neither drones nor missiles," Klymenko said, describing the attack as one of the largest against Kyiv since Russia launched its full-scale invasion of the country in February 2022.

Thirty apartments were destroyed in a single residential block, and emergency services were searching through the rubble for possible survivors, Klymenko added.


Attempting to get Washington's attention, Ukrainian Minister of Foreign Affairs Andrii Sybiha suggested the "massive and brutal strike" was deliberately timed and so is a serious insult to President Donald Trump.

Yep! If you want to try and get America involved, just prick Donald's ego! Problem is, we're too busy with Iran right now.

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Via Telegram

"Putin does this on purpose, just during the G7 summit. He sends a signal of total disrespect to the United States and other partners who have called for an end to the killing," he stated on social media. There are reports that an American citizen died in the attack.

"During the attack on Kyiv, a 62-year-old U.S. citizen died in a dwelling in the Solomianskyi district opposite where medics were providing assistance," Klitschko said. "Medics noted his clinical, biological death."



https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/largest-russian-strikes-months-
hit-kiev-killing-15-wounding-over-100


Altho it makes sense for this to be Russia's response to the terror attack, I wonder whether this particular apartment block be a false flag. So far, Russia's only been targeting drone factories and weapons stockpiles and things like that.

I guess we'll see.


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Nobody gives one single fuck about Ukraine.

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Well, I do, actually. When I see all those fortress-like apartment high rises being destroyed, all those carefully tended farmhouses blown open, fields and carefully tended treelines being destroyed, that's decades and decades of human effort.

And I've seen some awfully gruesome videos of soldiers in heavily laid minefields, with their legs getting blown off, crawling towards help, trailing bloody chunks. Or being burned alive by drone in an APC.

War is carnage. I pray the Ukraine government surrenders soon instead of throwing everything and everyone they have into the meat grinder.


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Well, I do, actually. When I see all those fortress-like apartment high rises being destroyed, all those carefully tended farmhouses blown open, fields and carefully tended treelines being destroyed, that's decades and decades of human effort.

And I've seen some awfully gruesome videos of soldiers in heavily laid minefields, with their legs getting blown off, crawling towards help, trailing bloody chunks. Or being burned alive by drone in an APC.

War is carnage. I pray the Ukraine government surrenders soon instead of throwing everything and everyone they have into the meat grinder.



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Russians' Grassroots Fundraising for Ukraine War Collapses – Vyorstka

June 16, 2025

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/06/16/russians-grassroots-fundrais
ing-for-ukraine-war-collapses-vyorstka-a89463


Grassroots fundraising for the Russian military slowed significantly during the third year of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, according to an analysis by the exiled news outlet Vyorstka. https://verstka.media/my-sami-sebya-obespechivaem-kak-v-rossii-tri-god
a-sobirayut-dengi-na-vojnu

“Volunteers transfer to the front not only drones and thermal imagers, but also bags for corpses”

In the early days of the invasion, support for the war effort surged across the country as reports of undersupplied and underequipped soldiers being sent to the front made national headlines. Over three years later, that momentum is fading even as the supply problems largely persist.

Vyorstka reviewed activity across 75 pro-war Telegram channels and volunteer groups and found that while the number of fundraising posts fell only slightly in 2024 compared to 2023, donations slowed to 11.8 billion rubles (roughly $150 million) in 2024, down from 39.1 billion rubles ($500 million) the previous year.

What once took hours to fund in the first two years of the war now takes weeks, according to Vyorstka. Fundraisers have turned to increasingly emotional — and sometimes guilt-laden — appeals to try to maintain engagement.

“A cup of coffee might seem like nothing, but 100 of them buys an evacuation bukhanka [army van] that can save 50-100 of our wounded,” read one recent post from the pro-war Telegram channel Troika.

Another pro-war channel, Dva Maiori (Two Majors), urged “every third” reader to send 41 rubles for thermal imagers for large-caliber machine guns used by the Russian Navy in the Black Sea.

Other channels launched campaigns calling for 100-ruble donations, telling followers that “if you have enough for daily public transit in Moscow, then you have enough for the army.”

In June 2025, several pro-war channels simultaneously posted a message that fundraising was drying up, as Russians interpreted ongoing peace talks as a sign that the fighting would soon come to an end.

“Many people feel like the war is over, or that it never really began,” the message said. It warned that complacency was dangerous, insisting that “the outcome of the special military operation will determine the future of every Russian.”

One anonymous serviceman told Vyorstka that many people posing as volunteer fundraisers appeared to be running businesses under the guise of humanitarian work.

Most donations are collected through personal bank cards, with few detailed reports about where the money goes. Fundraisers often share how much they raised and post photos from the front, but rarely provide receipts or itemized reports. Some use cryptocurrency wallets.

Even registered nonprofit groups, which once published financial statements, have largely stopped doing so or now file zero-activity reports, Vyorstka said.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Ukraine’s new bike unit mirrors Russia’s dumbest suicidal tactic — and that’s a strategic problem

Ukraine’s new bike unit adopts a Russian-style tactic: fast, deadly, and often doomed. It’s a gamble Kyiv may not be able to afford.

By David Axe | June 15, 2025

https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/06/15/ukraine-bike-unit-russia-tactic/

Russian motorcycle assault tactics have spread to the southern front of Russia’s 40-month wider war on Ukraine. The result in the south is the same as in the east. A lot of Russia’s southern bike troops are getting killed by Ukrainian mines, drones and artillery.

But as in the east, the few southern bikers who survive can make dangerous dents in Ukrainian lines. The bike attacks are almost always fatal for the troops who attempt them, but that doesn’t mean they don’t work.

Ukrainian commanders should think twice before copying the method, however. The Russians can afford to lose troops. The Ukrainians can’t.

The Ukrainian armed forces’ southern task force claimed the Russians attacked “in the Malynivka area” on Friday. But analysts geolocated the site of the attack in Nesteryanka, 40 miles to the east in the same oblast.

In any event, the attack failed as around a dozen bike troops ran over mines, got plinked by drones or blasted by artillery. “Their plan was doomed to failure,” the Ukrainian southern task force stated. “Our soldiers met the motorcycle assaults with dense fire, and as a result, all the enemy equipment burned down! Not a single occupier passed!”

The Ukrainian defenders, possibly from the 65th Mechanized Brigade, were lucky. The thinking behind the Russian bike attacks is perverse, but not insane. “It involves heavy losses, but it still has certain results,” the Ukrainian Peaky Blinders drone unit explained.

“For example, 20 motorcycles are going, some of them are destroyed by artillery, some by drones, someone is eliminated by mining and our infantry will get someone in a gun battle. But several motorcycles still have a chance to jump into the landing.”

It only takes a few infiltrating Russian troops to create a lodgement inside Ukrainian lines—one that can grow into a larger breach. In deploying large numbers of bike troops, Russian commanders are playing the odds—and betting that a few will eventually ride unscathed past Ukrainian mines, drones and artillery.

“Behind them is the same group, then more and more,” Peaky Blinders warned. The Friday bike attack in Zaporizhzhia may have failed, but the next one might not.

Abundant manpower

This costly assault method only works for the Kremlin because it has manpower in abundance. Motivated by generous enlistment bonuses and apparently believing Russia is winning the wider war, 30,000 fresh troops sign up for Russia’s war effort every month. That’s slightly more troops than Russia loses every month in Ukraine. Even the “suicidal bike attacks” haven’t tipped Russia’s manpower balance into a monthly deficit.

But Ukraine doesn’t have a durable manpower surplus. So it’s worth questioning the decision by one elite Ukrainian unit to form its own motorcycle assault group. The 425th Separate Assault Regiment organized its bike company, the first in the Ukrainian armed forces, last month.

“During the training, the fighters spent hundreds of hours behind the wheel and practiced shooting in motion, firing thousands of rounds,” the regiment announced. “As a result, we have a modern cavalry whose main task is to rapidly break into enemy positions, carry out assault actions and quickly change the direction of strike.”

But can the regiment afford to lose almost all the bike troops it sends into battle? And will the Ukrainian people accept the loss of life?

The Russians are determined to advance north in Zaporizhzhia Oblast. “Russian troops conduct six to seven attacks daily in the direction of Malynivka,” the Ukrainian Center for Defense Strategies noted. One of these attacks may eventually succeed, opening a gap in Ukrainian lines that Russian reinforcements can exploit.

Even if the effort succeeds, it will come at the cost of most of the bike troops carrying out the initial assaults. “The majority of these bikers are suicidal,” Peaky Blinders observed. “But apparently they are completely satisfied with it.”

Ukrainians might not be so satisfied dying like that.

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Russian forces conducted the third largest combined drone and missile strike against Ukraine since the start of Russia's full-scale invasion on the night of June 16 to 17. . . . a Ukrainian source posted footage reportedly showing a Russian missile with cluster munitions striking Kyiv City overnight.[3]

The United Nations Human Rights Monitoring Mission in Ukraine (UN HRMMU) reported that the last strike against Kyiv City with comparable or higher civilian casualties was the July 8, 2024 strike that killed at least 32 civilians and injured 85, including at the Kyiv City Okhmatdyt Children's Hospital.[10]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-17-2025




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The Conscription Comeback and the Social Contract

By Minna Ålander | Jun 18, 2025

https://phillipspobrien.substack.com/p/the-conscription-comeback-and-t
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Western Europe is currently trying to catch up on the military buildup that was, amazingly, still largely neglected over the past three years of Russia’s war. How come defence production capacity was not ramped up immediately after, if not before, Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine is a question that boggles pretty much everyone’s mind in the analytical community.

The truth is that although the perception of Ukraine, and with it Ukraine’s place, decisively shifted in Europe as a result of the war, the Russian threat never reached all of Europe. It took Trump’s comeback to jolt Western Europe into action. For northeastern Europeans, Russia has historically been the main threat and the full-scale invasion of Ukraine immediately activated that threat perception, but for Western Europe the threat remained more distant and in some ways also more abstract or improbable. However, the transatlantic partnership has been the cornerstone of Western European security since NATO’s founding in 1949. The threat that Trump poses to the alliance’s existence is perceived as acutely in Western Europe as the Russian threat is in Europe’s northeast. So now we are finally all more or less on the same page.

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