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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Sunday, December 31, 2023 11:40 AM
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Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: According to Military Summary Channel, Ukraine followed up its drone attack on civilians in Belgorod with a cluster munitions attack on them A war crime, as even Dima points out. SIGNYM
Sunday, December 31, 2023 12:52 PM
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Sunday, December 31, 2023 1:24 PM
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So, your response to videos and widespread reports of UKRAINE'S WAR CRIMES is a stupid CARTOON? I suppose it would be too much for you to adress THE FACTS? Dood, stop rerunning the propaganda movie playing in your head. Trump is not colluding with Russia. Russia is not colluding with Trump. And stop kidding yourself that you post FACTS. You post crude propaganda, and none of us are stupid enough to believe it, or you.
Sunday, December 31, 2023 1:30 PM
Quote:Yesterday [three days ago now] Russia has send swarms of missiles to strike Ukraine: " Russia fired more than 150 missiles and drones at Ukraine on Friday in one of the largest bombardments of the war, [Ukrainian] officials said, hitting schools, parks, homes, a hospital and other civilian infrastructure, and rupturing the relative calm of an otherwise quiet winter on the conflict’s static front lines. The scale of the attack confirmed what many in Ukraine have feared for months — that Russia was conserving its missile stocks throughout the fall for massive strikes in the winter." It [was] however not schools, parks, homes or hospitals that were the targets. As Strana [Strana is a top-5 online Ukrainian newspaper founded by journalist Igor Guzhva, in opposition to the current Ukrainian government. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strana.ua ] writes (machine translation): "Commander-in-Chief Zaluzhny said that "critical infrastructure, industrial and military facilities were attacked." Indeed, judging by many sources, this missile attack was directed primarily at military enterprises and warehouses. Or on other infrastructure. At the same time, unlike last year's massive strikes, the current attack did not focus on energy facilities." https://strana.news/news/454083-raketnaja-ataka-po-ukraine-29-dekabrja-2023-osnovnye-fakty.html The Economist confirms the targeting of weapon production facilities: [A] "source in Ukraine’s defence industry suggests Russia had predominantly targeted defence facilities. Some were connected to missile and drone production. “The attacks had strategic meaning for the enemy, with the aim of reducing our capacity to strike,” the source says. Both sides are locked in a competition to degrade the enemy. “It’s a battle to see who can destroy more of the enemy’s long-range weapons.” " https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/12/29/russia-tries-to-overwhelm-ukraine-with-missiles
Quote: This comes three days after the Ukrainian president Zelenski boosted about domestic Ukrainian weapon production: " Ukraine tripled its domestic production of equipment and weapons in 2023 compared to the year before, President Volodymyr Zelensky said on Dec. 27. Amid rising uncertainty surrounding military aid from key partners like the U.S., Ukraine is looking to increase its own weapons production capacity. Speaking at a meeting with Ukrainian defense industry workers, Zelensky said there has also been an "extremely significant" increase in domestic ammunition production, especially for artillery. The production of drone ammunition is being "systematically expanded," Zelensky said. In 2024, "special attention will be paid to the production of explosives and gunpowder, which are in short supply in the world." " https://news.yahoo.com/zelensky-ukraine-triples-weapons-production-161314865.html Zelenski is putting his hope on foreign cooperation: "According to Zelensky, Ukraine's defense complex will become further integrated with the international defense system. In 2023, Ukraine joined forces with German arms manufacturer Rheinmetall to repair Western-produced military vehicles and ultimately produce them domestically in Ukraine. The joint Rheinmetall-Ukrainian Defense Industry enterprise was registered on Oct. 18. "The creation of a joint enterprise is, without exaggeration, a landmark event that takes cooperation between our countries to a qualitatively new level," Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal said. Rheinmetall CEO Armin Papperger said on Dec. 2 that the company plans to build the first armored vehicles on-site in Ukraine in the summer of 2024. Later in December, Ukrainian and U.S. officials signed a statement of intent on the co-production of weapons." I do not know what Rheinmetall's CEO Papperger is smoking, but if he believes that his weapon production facility in Ukraine can survive more than a few weeks it must be some very strong stuff. More Strana (machine translation): "Judging by the locations of the strike, the main targets were warehouses and military enterprises. A Ukrainian specialist in electronic warfare and drones, Sergey Beskrestnov, recently stated on one of the YouTube channels that "Russia is actively tracking down our defense enterprises," and among their employees there are many informants of the Russian Federation. "We, unfortunately, have a lot of traitors, pensioners (factory workers - Ed .) merge where, what, where is sent... A hangar with finished products was destroyed at one production enterprise, and very large damage was suffered. When they began to deal with the counter-measures, it turned out that my grandfather, who was the chief engineer there, for a ten - dollar bill (10 thousand - Ed .) reported when it was necessary to do this (strike)," said Beskrestnov. "Hunting" for enterprises is a predictable strategy of the Russian Federation in light of the fact that Ukraine has announced its intentions to develop military production on its territory and increase the production of drones and ammunition, as well as the capacity to repair armored vehicles". https://strana.news/news/454083-raketnaja-ataka-po-ukraine-29-dekabrja-2023-osnovnye-fakty.html Those problems will occur again and again. There is hope to get more air defense systems from other countries. However, their international availability is limited. The U.S. had to put strong pressure on Japan because it itself can not produce enough for Ukraine to survive: "Japan is set to announce that it will approve the sale of advanced air defense systems to the United States, a significant shift in its postwar policies restricting the export of weapons and military hardware, and a move that could help Washington support Ukraine in its fight against Russia." https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/21/world/asia/japan-postwar-missile-defense-sales.html Those systems, when delivered, will also get destroyed. Just recently a complete Patriot system, which had previously taken down some Russian jets, was eliminated at the Kherson railway station. Russia also announced the elimination of an IRIS-T and other such shorter range systems provided by western countries: "Operational-Tactical and Missile Troops of the Russian Groups of Forces eliminated combat vehicles of air defence systems, namely, one Norwegian-made NASAMS, one German-made IRIS-T, one French-made Crotale-NG, one S-300 air defence system radar, and three U.S.-made AN/TPQ-50 counterbattery warfare radar stations. There are not enough air defenses to cover each and every production facility in Ukraine and Russia can send a practically unlimited amount of missiles: "Therefore, it is likely that the Ukrainian command will try to cover important defense facilities with additional air defense systems as much as possible in the near future. Although here a big role will be played by the ability of the allies to supply them in the necessary volumes. As well as Russia's ability to further increase the intensity of strikes." https://strana.news/news/454083-raketnaja-ataka-po-ukraine-29-dekabrja-2023-osnovnye-fakty.html But what about those schools, parks, homes or hospitals that were hit and damaged?
Quote: They are simply collateral losses caused by Ukrainian air defenses: Ihnat, the [Ukrainian] air force spokesman, said that it was unclear what exactly the Russians were targeting, as some missiles were intercepted by Ukrainian air defense, and damage was caused by falling fragments. “When certain objects get hit, you can conclude that they were trying to aim for it,” Ihnat said. “But there are also things like debris.” “If a flying rocket is hit, this is a large mass of metal, burning rocket fuel and so forth,” he said. “And the explosives can also still be undetonated. So when the debris of this rocket falls down, it can still have serious consequences on the ground. The work of air defense, even when it’s successful, can still have serious consequences.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/29/ukraine-russia-missile-barrage-power/ Air defense systems In Ukraine are just like all those other western super-weapons. Their alleged supremacy gets defeated by Russia before they are able to do any serious damage. - Posted by b on December 30, 2023 at 12:33 UTC
Sunday, December 31, 2023 3:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So, your response to videos and widespread reports of UKRAINE'S WAR CRIMES is a stupid CARTOON? I suppose it would be too much for you to adress THE FACTS? Dood, stop rerunning the propaganda movie playing in your head. Trump is not colluding with Russia. Russia is not colluding with Trump. And stop kidding yourself that you post FACTS. You post crude propaganda, and none of us are stupid enough to believe it, or you. SIGNYM
Sunday, December 31, 2023 3:50 PM
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Sunday, December 31, 2023 3:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Oh, that old gem again. We've been over this before ad nauseam. If you're living in a place where the average personal income is $9,733 per year, then everything you buy from food to clothing to transportation to entertainment costs a LOT less than somewhere where the average income is $40k per year. You don't even have to travel out of the country to see that this is true. Somebody working and living in NYC or LA is making a ton more than somebody doing the same job in bumfuck Kentucky doing the same job, but somebody in bumfuck Kentucky isn't paying $3,500 per month for a 600 sq ft. studio apartment.It's pretty obvious you have very few foreign stamps in your passport. Oh? You don't need a passport? You've seen all you need to know from a screen? Russians are pretty much the same since they get all their "facts" about the Failing West from Putin. Trumptards hear about the Failing NYTimes and Failing California from Trump.
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Oh, that old gem again. We've been over this before ad nauseam. If you're living in a place where the average personal income is $9,733 per year, then everything you buy from food to clothing to transportation to entertainment costs a LOT less than somewhere where the average income is $40k per year. You don't even have to travel out of the country to see that this is true. Somebody working and living in NYC or LA is making a ton more than somebody doing the same job in bumfuck Kentucky doing the same job, but somebody in bumfuck Kentucky isn't paying $3,500 per month for a 600 sq ft. studio apartment.
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Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: That's odd, bc Dima has shown videos of HIMARS getting destroyed. Not many, but more than none.
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Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: That's odd, bc Dima has shown videos of HIMARS getting destroyed. Not many, but more than none. SIGNYM
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Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Ukraine is still thrashing around how to conscript 500,000 soldiers.
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Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: More real news... Having been warned agianst it by the IMF, Central Banks, economists, and scholars of international law, Biden* looks determined to steal Russia's frozen assets and give them to Ukraine, with the EU's blessing. The downside?
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Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: "Ukraine says..." is your tipoff to a lie. The chance of a Patriot missile hitting a Kinzhal, if the Patriot system is mated with Israel's fancy ultrafast predictive radar (as was done recently), is about 10-15%.
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Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Russia launched another huge missile strike against Ukraine after Orthodox Christmas (which was Jan 7).
Monday, January 8, 2024 11:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Russia launched another huge missile strike against Ukraine after Orthodox Christmas (which was Jan 7).And yet Russian victory does not arrive because Russia does not have a sufficient number of multi-million dollar missiles. It's time for Russia to bring out the nukes, which it has more than sufficient numbers of and which it never stops hinting that it will use one day soon. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Tuesday, January 9, 2024 7:20 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Russia is attriting Ukraine and, by extension, NATO and the USA. As had been said, you want to wear your opponent down so much that at the end you can knock him down with a feather. Not at that point yet.
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Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Fuck Ukraine.
Tuesday, January 9, 2024 9:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Russia launched another huge missile strike against Ukraine after Orthodox Christmas (which was Jan 7).And yet Russian victory does not arrive because Russia does not have a sufficient number of multi-million dollar missiles. It's time for Russia to bring out the nukes, which it has more than sufficient numbers of and which it never stops hinting that it will use one day soon. Russia is attriting Ukraine and, by extension, NATO and the USA. As had been said, you want to wear your opponent down so much that at the end you can knock him down with a feather. Not at that point yet. SIGNYM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Russia launched another huge missile strike against Ukraine after Orthodox Christmas (which was Jan 7).And yet Russian victory does not arrive because Russia does not have a sufficient number of multi-million dollar missiles. It's time for Russia to bring out the nukes, which it has more than sufficient numbers of and which it never stops hinting that it will use one day soon.
Tuesday, January 9, 2024 9:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Fuck Ukraine.For explanations of why Russians are that way there are Russian novels. For explanations of why 6ixStringJack is this way, there is the movie Joker. 6ix, your sympathizing with the Joker's situation revealed your inner self. http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=36&tid=63327&mid=1085785#1085785 The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Tuesday, January 9, 2024 10:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Fuck Ukraine.For explanations of why Russians are that way there are Russian novels. For explanations of why 6ixStringJack is this way, there is the movie Joker. 6ix, your sympathizing with the Joker's situation revealed your inner self. http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=36&tid=63327&mid=1085785#1085785 The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly That tired line again, huh? Fuck Ukraine.
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Every time there was a show that me and my old man liked and it got cancelled, I'd just say instead of leaving it on a cliffhanger like The Sarah Connor Chronicles, they should have just had one final episode where the entire planet gets nuked and everyone dies. Firefly could have had the sun go supernova and everyone dies. Freaks and Geeks? Maybe North Korea fired the first nuke and everyone dies. You can't cancel my show. I'm going to destroy it first. Let's just kill off pretty much all the main characters on both sides at the end and call it a day. -------------------------------------------------- But I'm glad they just killed everyone off and made it so that the entire season didn't matter since the network killed it. -------------------------------------------------- I like the idea of a supernova just killing everybody in the solar system off, because FOX killed Firefly anyhow, so Joss should have just said fuck it and made a huge catastrophe outside of anybody's control just coming in and making the entire show as pointless as FOX decided it was. -------------------------------------------------- How you do anything is how you do everything.
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