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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Friday, June 30, 2023 3:40 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: [some] ukrainians will keep fighting bc the USA keeps telling them to. other ukrainians are fighting on the other side. But when we (or they) have to use WMD and start targeting masses of civilians, it's clear that we (or they) don't have support of 'the people '. Btw- Zelenskiy cancelled elections for the foreseeable future. Hooray for democracy! so ... whatever. troll.Russians killed 62 million Russians in the last century. That means the Russians are mass murderers. The Ukrainians know all about this, even if you don't, Signym. That is why the Ukrainians fight Russians. Lethal Politics: Soviet Genocide and Mass Murder since 1917 by R. J. Rummel Download the free book from http://libgen.is/search.php?req=R.+J.+Rummel https://www.amazon.com/Lethal-Politics-Soviet-Genocide-Murder-ebook/dp/B073RQ94KF/ The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: [some] ukrainians will keep fighting bc the USA keeps telling them to. other ukrainians are fighting on the other side. But when we (or they) have to use WMD and start targeting masses of civilians, it's clear that we (or they) don't have support of 'the people '. Btw- Zelenskiy cancelled elections for the foreseeable future. Hooray for democracy! so ... whatever. troll.
Friday, June 30, 2023 5:51 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Blaming "Russians" for things that happened a century ago is as nuts as blaming "Germans" for the Holocaust or blaming "Americans" for genocide of the indigenes and slavery. So let's put those responsible on trial: the Tsar, and Lenin, and Trotsky, and Stalin....and while we're at it Hitler, Mao, and Truman, and all former American slave owners.. and Albright, Kissinger, and GWB and Hillary! What, you say? Only Hillary and Kissinger and GWB are reachable? Sod off, troll.
Friday, June 30, 2023 5:55 PM
Friday, June 30, 2023 6:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Blaming "Russians" for things that happened a century ago is as nuts as blaming "Germans" for the Holocaust or blaming "Americans" for genocide of the indigenes and slavery. So let's put those responsible on trial: the Tsar, and Lenin, and Trotsky, and Stalin....and while we're at it Hitler, Mao, and Truman, and all former American slave owners.. and Albright, Kissinger, and GWB and Hillary! What, you say? Only Hillary and Kissinger and GWB are reachable? Sod off, troll.It is a long-established pattern that Russians will murder and then follow that up with endless lies.
Friday, June 30, 2023 6:18 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Blaming "Russians" for things that happened a century ago is as nuts as blaming "Germans" for the Holocaust or blaming "Americans" for genocide of the indigenes and slavery. So let's put those responsible on trial: the Tsar, and Lenin, and Trotsky, and Stalin....and while we're at it Hitler, Mao, and Truman, and all former American slave owners.. and Albright, Kissinger, and GWB and Hillary! What, you say? Only Hillary and Kissinger and GWB are reachable? Sod off, troll.It is a long-established pattern that Russians will murder and then follow that up with endless lies. We could say the same of Americans. At least Russians kill Russians (you say). We kill EVERYBODY! Since the founding of our nation, in fact. And then we memory-hole it. That probably explains why so many people in the world hate us. Which we also refuse to recognize. Troll.
Friday, June 30, 2023 7:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Blaming "Russians" for things that happened a century ago is as nuts as blaming "Germans" for the Holocaust or blaming "Americans" for genocide of the indigenes and slavery. So let's put those responsible on trial: the Tsar, and Lenin, and Trotsky, and Stalin....and while we're at it Hitler, Mao, and Truman, and all former American slave owners.. and Albright, Kissinger, and GWB and Hillary! What, you say? Only Hillary and Kissinger and GWB are reachable? Sod off, troll. SECOND: It is a long-established pattern that Russians will murder and then follow that up with endless lies. SIGNY: We could say the same of Americans. At least Russians kill Russians (you say). We kill EVERYBODY! Since the founding of our nation, in fact. And then we memory-hole it. That probably explains why so many people in the world hate us. Which we also refuse to recognize. Troll. SECOND: Signym, you have the worst case of Whataboutism I have ever seen. It is a technique Russians habitually use to "win" every argument blah blah blah
Friday, June 30, 2023 7:25 PM
THG
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Blaming "Russians" for things that happened a century ago is as nuts as blaming "Germans" for the Holocaust or blaming "Americans" for genocide of the indigenes and slavery. So let's put those responsible on trial: the Tsar, and Lenin, and Trotsky, and Stalin....and while we're at it Hitler, Mao, and Truman, and all former American slave owners.. and Albright, Kissinger, and GWB and Hillary! What, you say? Only Hillary and Kissinger and GWB are reachable? Sod off, troll.It is a long-established pattern that Russians will murder and then follow that up with endless lies. We could say the same of Americans. At least Russians kill Russians (you say). We kill EVERYBODY! Since the founding of our nation, in fact. And then we memory-hole it. That probably explains why so many people in the world hate us. Which we also refuse to recognize. Troll. ----------- "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
Friday, June 30, 2023 7:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Oh, and implying that anyone I'm Russian is YOUR go-to response when you don't have an on-target response?? Say, don't you care about America? Don't you care about what America does, whether we're doing more harm than good, whether or not we have a solid economic, financial and social foundation? Why the hyperfocus on RUSSIA!RUSSIA? Russian history? Russian power structures? One would think that YOU'RE Russian! Trying to distract from the ROT at the heart of America?
Friday, June 30, 2023 7:50 PM
Saturday, July 1, 2023 12:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Oh, and implying that anyone I'm Russian is YOUR go-to response when you don't have an on-target response?? Say, don't you care about America? Don't you care about what America does, whether we're doing more harm than good, whether or not we have a solid economic, financial and social foundation? Why the hyperfocus on RUSSIA!RUSSIA? Russian history? Russian power structures? One would think that YOU'RE Russian! Trying to distract from the ROT at the heart of America? SECOND: Funny how every person I know who now defends Trump...
Quote: ... was a rotten person years before Trump came along.
Saturday, July 1, 2023 2:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Prigozhin May Be Gone, but Not the Failings He Ranted About
Saturday, July 1, 2023 6:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: ... was a rotten person years before Trump came along. I've never been a rotten person and CERTAINLY not a lying, sociopathic killer like you.
Saturday, July 1, 2023 6:26 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by second: Prigozhin May Be Gone, but Not the Failings He Ranted About MORE NYT BS.
Saturday, July 1, 2023 7:01 AM
Sunday, July 2, 2023 4:39 PM
Quote: Also, as some might have seen recently, a new video was released showing the full bore devastation and horror of AFU’s failed Zaporozhye assault on the Orekhov direction. It’s one of the more graphic videos of the war thus far, but it’s extremely enlightening in terms of how Russia’s now-famous minefields truly wreaked havoc on the elite 47th brigade. Warning, it’s brutal but shows the intractable horror of mine warfare and how even their precious M2 Bradleys couldn’t help them: Video Link.
Sunday, July 2, 2023 5:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: OMG, this is sickening. But it is the reality of war.
Sunday, July 2, 2023 6:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: OMG, this is sickening.
Sunday, July 2, 2023 8:10 PM
Sunday, July 2, 2023 8:25 PM
Sunday, July 2, 2023 9:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: OMG!!! HORRIBLE! Children evacuated from a war zone! I'll bet there's no video. Just more blah blah blah from SECOND's endless wellspring of psyops.
Sunday, July 2, 2023 11:23 PM
Sunday, July 2, 2023 11:27 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Monday, July 3, 2023 4:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: If Russia ruins the power plant -which it controls, is in its territory, and supplies electricity to its portion of the former Ukraine - not only will it lose electricity from the Europe's largest npp, it will face a monumental cleanup of the facility itself and the surrounding area.Signym, you know I check your statements. All 6 reactors are shutdown, producing no electricity. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-asks-iaea-ensure-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-plant-security-2023-06-23/ In a final show of contempt for Ukrainians and their property and farmlands, if Russia blows up these reactors because it lost the war, Russia will not clean this up any more than clean up the damage Russia has done elsewhere in Ukraine. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: If Russia ruins the power plant -which it controls, is in its territory, and supplies electricity to its portion of the former Ukraine - not only will it lose electricity from the Europe's largest npp, it will face a monumental cleanup of the facility itself and the surrounding area.
Monday, July 3, 2023 6:04 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Why in god's name would they blow up their own reactors? There's no benefit to Russia, and all cost. ZNPP may not be producing electricity today, but it can, and will, in future. Depriving yourself of a vital resource is just plain stupid. And so far, Russia has been conducting it's war and economy in a risk-aversive, methodical, professional fashion. It's the west that's been taking big gambles.
Monday, July 3, 2023 6:06 AM
Monday, July 3, 2023 9:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: I could tell you that I know how to fight a war, but you wouldn't believe me.
Monday, July 3, 2023 6:23 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Why in god's name would they blow up their own reactors? There's no benefit to Russia, and all cost. ZNPP may not be producing electricity today, but it can, and will, in future. Depriving yourself of a vital resource is just plain stupid. And so far, Russia has been conducting it's war and economy in a risk-aversive, methodical, professional fashion. It's the west that's been taking big gambles. SECOND; The reactors aren't Russia's.
Quote: If Putin kept a tally of the cost he wouldn't be destroying Ukrainian real estate. Instead, he'd be hitting very different targets.
Quote: I could tell you that I know how to fight a war, but you wouldn't believe me.
Tuesday, July 4, 2023 7:16 AM
Tuesday, July 4, 2023 7:27 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Why in god's name would they blow up their own reactors? There's no benefit to Russia, and all cost. ZNPP may not be producing electricity today, but it can, and will, in future. Depriving yourself of a vital resource is just plain stupid. And so far, Russia has been conducting it's war and economy in a risk-aversive, methodical, professional fashion. It's the west that's been taking big gambles. SECOND; The reactors aren't Russia's. ATM they are, and they will continue to be until/unless NATO can take them back.
Tuesday, July 4, 2023 9:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Signym, you have very strange and confused ideas about what ownership means and who is fighting, but then most Russians and Trumptards do which is why neither prospers in comparison to those who hold diametrically opposite ideas.
Tuesday, July 4, 2023 10:09 AM
Tuesday, July 4, 2023 10:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: OMG!!! HORRIBLE! Children evacuated from a war zone! I'll bet there's no video. Just more blah blah blah from SECOND's endless wellspring of psyops. How about you allow the parents to decide whether or not their children should be moved to the country that invaded them?
Tuesday, July 4, 2023 10:48 AM
Tuesday, July 4, 2023 11:06 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: You cannot engage in truth telling by addressing facts with lies, whataboutisms, or fallacy of relative privations. Or by referring to your same topic, too address all other topics. Some here continue to do so because they are, well, stupid. wink wink nod nod T
Tuesday, July 4, 2023 11:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by THG: You cannot engage in truth telling by addressing facts with lies, whataboutisms, or fallacy of relative privations. Or by referring to your same topic, too address all other topics. Some here continue to do so because they are, well, stupid. wink wink nod nod T
Tuesday, July 4, 2023 12:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: You cannot engage in truth telling by addressing facts with lies, whataboutisms, or fallacy of relative privations. Or by referring to your same topic, too address all other topics. Some here continue to do so because they are, well, stupid. wink wink nod nod SIX: You still refuse to denounce THUGR: No, what I refuse to do is allow you to accuse me of being something I am not, then spend my time trying to convince you I am not. Or, trying to convince you that I do not believe something is good that I don’t, and never said I did. Shit you’ve completely made up, lies. You’ve been trying to do this same thing again and again. All in an attempt to control my conversations by lying about me. It never works Jackass. All it ever accomplishes is to expose your ignorance and complete lack of class. So, why am I responding to more of your posts? Because, everything I’ve been saying these past few years was going to happen with Trump and his cronies that you’ve been saying won’t, is happening. I’m reminding you what an ass you are, and who is always right by posting current events that prove it. I do this while you continue to crawl in the gutter.
Tuesday, July 4, 2023 1:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by THG: You cannot engage in truth telling by addressing facts with lies, whataboutisms, or fallacy of relative privations. Or by referring to your same topic, too address all other topics. Some here continue to do so because they are, well, stupid. wink wink nod nod T
Tuesday, July 4, 2023 1:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: somebody else must be posting for you, THUGR. or else your sockpuppet persona is slipping bc, suddenly, you're a student of rhetoric?
Tuesday, July 4, 2023 7:33 PM
Quote: Zelenskiy: Russia may be preparing to trigger nuclear plant explosion President cites Ukraine intelligence that Moscow has mined Zaporizhzhia nuclear station and sent away staff Lorenzo Tondo and Luke Harding in Kyiv Sat 1 Jul 2023 11.55 EDT Last modified on Sat 1 Jul 2023 13.53 EDT Russia could be ready to provoke a localised explosion at Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant, Ukraine’s President Zelenskiy has said. Zelenskiy cited Ukrainian intelligence as the source of his information and called for greater international attention to the situation at the facility, the largest nuclear plant in Europe. Since seizing it last year, Moscow has turned it into a military base from which it has bombarded Ukrainian towns across the Dnipro reservoir. “There is a serious threat because Russia is technically ready to provoke a local explosion at the station, which could lead to a [radiation] release,” Zelenskiy told a joint news conference in Kyiv with the visiting Spanish prime minister, Pedro Sánchez.
Tuesday, July 4, 2023 7:52 PM
Tuesday, July 4, 2023 7:56 PM
Tuesday, July 4, 2023 8:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Democrats destroyed the American electoral process and put the world through two and a half years of lockdown hell and the resulting economic downturn to remove the only man who would have kept any of this from happening. Well done, idiots. -------------------------------------------------- How you do anything is how you do everything.
Tuesday, July 4, 2023 10:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Democrats destroyed the American electoral process and put the world through two and a half years of lockdown hell and the resulting economic downturn to remove the only man who would have kept any of this from happening. Well done, idiots. -------------------------------------------------- How you do anything is how you do everything. I've been wringing my hands over our direction for decades, and for the most part it's gone from bad to worse. If Trump could have controlled his administration I think he would have saved us from lot of trouble. Yanno, solutions to a lot of our problems are blindingly obvious, but they would clip TPTB's wings, and that -of course- would NEVER be allowed. ----------- "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM
Wednesday, July 5, 2023 5:04 AM
Wednesday, July 5, 2023 12:12 PM
K2PO
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Kiev may attempt a nuclear false flag.
Wednesday, July 5, 2023 6:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by THG: You cannot engage in truth telling by addressing facts with lies, whataboutisms, or fallacy of relative privations. Or by referring to your same topic, too address all other topics. Some here continue to do so because they are, well, stupid. wink wink nod nod SIX: You still refuse to denounce THUGR: No, what I refuse to do is allow you to accuse me of being something I am not, then spend my time trying to convince you I am not. Or, trying to convince you that I do not believe something is good that I don’t, and never said I did. Shit you’ve completely made up, lies. You’ve been trying to do this same thing again and again. All in an attempt to control my conversations by lying about me. It never works Jackass. All it ever accomplishes is to expose your ignorance and complete lack of class. So, why am I responding to more of your posts? Because, everything I’ve been saying these past few years was going to happen with Trump and his cronies that you’ve been saying won’t, is happening. I’m reminding you what an ass you are, and who is always right by posting current events that prove it. I do this while you continue to crawl in the gutter. somebody else must be posting for you, THUGR. or else your sockpuppet persona is slipping bc, suddenly, you're a student of rhetoric? the fallacy of the "fallacy of whataboutism": you PRETEND to care about morals, ethics, 'freedom', justice, righteousness, humaneness etc etc but anyone points out america's or the DNC's or the deep state's (horrific) misdeeds, you use 'whataboutism' to avoid/deny having to discuss 'your side's' moral, ethical, and inhumane failings. seeing as you posit 'your side' as moral, ethical, righteous, just, and humane, discussing YOUR side's failings is completely on-topic. so either you address 'your side's' failings or paint yourself as a mssive hypocrite. when YOU can discuss moral failings in an objective manner, i will too. the fallacy of the fallacy of relative privation: dood, in the REAL WORLD it's ALL about 'relative privation' bc not all privations are equal. having no food or water or shelter is, in reality, more important than not having the latest style footware. not being killed wantonly (LIFE) is more important than freedom (LIFE, liberty, and pursuit of happiness). don't bring up this 'fallacy' again bc it's fallacious ad hominem: 'what I refuse to do is allow you to accuse me of being something I am not' is generally called LIBEL. and it is a CRIME, and yet, you do it ALL THE TIME. 'COMRADE' you don't like being treated the same? OH, TOO BAD! maybe i should start doing the same. eh, pervert? calling someone a liar: if you look up LIBEL, you'll see it's a specific form of lie. now, you may in your heart deeply 'believe' something to be true, but if there is no proof, you will, in a court of law, be found GUILTY. so, like everything else you post, and think, you might wanna be sure of your evidence b4 you start slinging accusations around bc in the REAL WORLD of real consequences, your 'beliefs'.no matter how strongly felt, don't count so, show this to your older brother, or whoever is posting for you, and they can 'splain to you how false accusations can get you in trouble.
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