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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Friday, May 12, 2023 9:40 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Saturday, May 13, 2023 7:35 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Nobody cares.
Saturday, May 13, 2023 7:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I think what we're seeing is reality seeping into SECOND's fevered brain. He senses that Ukraine is on the losing side of this war... by extension so is NATO ... and he just can't cope.
Sunday, May 14, 2023 5:13 AM
Sunday, May 14, 2023 5:27 AM
Monday, May 15, 2023 7:37 AM
Monday, May 15, 2023 9:57 AM
Monday, May 15, 2023 9:58 AM
Monday, May 15, 2023 11:46 AM
Monday, May 15, 2023 1:40 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Monday, May 15, 2023 3:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I heard about the four lost Russian military aricraft, but been too busy to read in detail.
Monday, May 15, 2023 4:06 PM
Monday, May 15, 2023 4:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Prigozhin has spent the last month+ trash-talking the Russian MoD. But what goes around comes around: WaPo has an article claiming that Prigozhin offered to give Kiev the locations of Russia's forces in exchange for w/drawal from Bakhmut. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/05/14/prigozhin-wagner-ukraine-leaked-documents/ I think the guy needs a long, long vacation. He's not a military man and after having bonded with his forces, but without the military command training that desensitizes commanders to the inevitable loss of their soldiers, my guess is that Prigozhin is suffering from PTSD.
Monday, May 15, 2023 6:20 PM
Tuesday, May 16, 2023 4:00 PM
Quote: Russia Says It Took Out US-Supplied Patriot Missile In Hypersonic Strike On Kiev Russia's military may have taken out a US-supplied Patriot anti-air battery in Ukraine, which if true would be a very significant first since the advanced Raytheon-made defense weapon was deployed there. This came as Ukrainian officials have cited an exceptionally dense attack on Kyiv overnight, which included cruise missiles and drones, and even allegedly Kinzhal hypersonic missiles. Ukraine was hit by at least 18 missiles and nine drones were sent, with media reports saying some six ballistic missiles (including Kinzhal) were launched. But the Ukrainians are claiming that most or all of them were intercepted.
Tuesday, May 16, 2023 5:25 PM
Tuesday, May 16, 2023 8:00 PM
K2PO
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Russia Says It Took Out US-Supplied Patriot Missile In Hypersonic Strike On Kiev
Quote: Russia Says It Took Out US-Supplied Patriot Missile In Hypersonic Strike On Kiev
Tuesday, May 16, 2023 8:39 PM
Tuesday, May 16, 2023 9:23 PM
Quote:Originally posted by K2PO: Russia also "took out" 5 Ukrainian anti-aircraft missiles at the weekend... with its planes and helicopters
Tuesday, May 16, 2023 11:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I saw a bunch of missiles being launched but not, apparently, intercepting anything. What would be the coup de grace would be if the launchers themselves were destroyed. (You can't launch a missile without a launcher) Or if a bunch of launchers (battery) along with their radar system (installation) went POOF! Another possibility - altho not what happened in this case, AFAIK- would be to destroy missiles and launchers on the ground, or in the wharehouse.
Wednesday, May 17, 2023 8:05 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I saw a bunch of missiles being launched but not, apparently, intercepting anything. What would be the coup de grace would be if the launchers themselves were destroyed. (You can't launch a missile without a launcher) Or if a bunch of launchers (battery) along with their radar system (installation) went POOF! Another possibility - altho not what happened in this case, AFAIK- would be to destroy missiles and launchers on the ground, or in the wharehouse. SECOND: Kyiv said ....
Wednesday, May 17, 2023 8:07 AM
Wednesday, May 17, 2023 8:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: BTW, it was the Patriot system that failed to stop Houthi drones from damaging a Saudi oil storage and loading facility.
Wednesday, May 17, 2023 11:21 PM
Thursday, May 18, 2023 7:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Patriot Missiles have been used by Saudi Arabia since 1991. It's the Saudis only air defense system, and it has failed to protect Saudi Arabia from numerous drone and cruise missile attacks over many years. ***** The Patriot missile story in Kiev In sum, Kiev claimed (hoax warning!) that the Patriot missile system took down 6 of 6 Kinzhal missiles. Meanwhile, as Kiev was claiming a miraculous score, Russia said that Kiev doesn't know what missiles Russia fired, but that there were a lot fewer Kinzhals than Kiev claimed, and that the missile(s) that Russia fired against the Patriot system hit their target(s). And to put a cap on Kiev's ridiculous claim, the Pentagon said that a Patriot installation had been "damaged". Alex supposes, and it sure sounds plausible, that there is a big procurement up for air defenses using Patriot Missiles, and this whole sequence of events... the original claim that a Patriot missile brought down a Kinzhal missile, followed up by Kiev's ridiculous claim of 6 of 6 hypersonic missiles downed... was just one giant advert for Raytheon. And if it hadn't been for the video uploaded by bloggers we would all be none the wiser. Oh, and apparently the bloggers who uploaded the video were arrested by the SBU.
Thursday, May 18, 2023 7:35 AM
Thursday, May 18, 2023 7:38 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Anna Nemtsova is a Daily Beast correspondent and a contributing writer for the Atlantic.
Thursday, May 18, 2023 7:42 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Patriot Missiles have been used by Saudi Arabia since 1991. It's the Saudis only air defense system, and it has failed to protect Saudi Arabia from numerous drone and cruise missile attacks over many years. ***** The Patriot missile story in Kiev In sum, Kiev claimed (hoax warning!) that the Patriot missile system took down 6 of 6 Kinzhal missiles. Meanwhile, as Kiev was claiming a miraculous score, Russia said that Kiev doesn't know what missiles Russia fired, but that there were a lot fewer Kinzhals than Kiev claimed, and that the missile(s) that Russia fired against the Patriot system hit their target(s). And to put a cap on Kiev's ridiculous claim, the Pentagon said that a Patriot installation had been "damaged". Alex supposes, and it sure sounds plausible, that there is a big procurement up for air defenses using Patriot Missiles, and this whole sequence of events... the original claim that a Patriot missile brought down a Kinzhal missile, followed up by Kiev's ridiculous claim of 6 of 6 hypersonic missiles downed... was just one giant advert for Raytheon. And if it hadn't been for the video uploaded by bloggers we would all be none the wiser. Oh, and apparently the bloggers who uploaded the video were arrested by the SBU.If those six Kinzhal missiles didn't hit six targets in Kyiv equivalent to the White House and the Capitol building and the Pentagon, those six missiles were misses. It is deer versus deer hunter in Ukraine. If the hunter (Russia) does NOT come back with meat, then the hunter missed the deer (Ukraine). Where is the meat? The fabrication of one Kh-47 Kinzhal hypersonic missile costs about US$10 million.[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-47M2_Kinzhal The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Thursday, May 18, 2023 7:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Oh, so now you're COMPLAINING that Russians don't fight like barbarians? Yanno, like the USA fights, bombing and destroying indiscriminately?
Thursday, May 18, 2023 8:05 AM
Thursday, May 18, 2023 8:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Fuck Ukraine. #Rootin4Putin
Thursday, May 18, 2023 4:38 PM
Quote:SECOND: The TV talking heads can repeat “no collusion” over and over, but Trump does keep saying all those complimentary things about Vladimir Putin, no matter what atrocities the Russian president commits.
Quote:$77 Billion sent to Ukraine
Quote: NYC building that once housed 'Brooklyn's hippest hotel' turned into migrants shelter https://t.co/8T1mfecEcr via @nypmetro >><> A shelter for illegal aliens – while at the same time homeless citizens, some hungry and mentally ill – get ZERO resources.
Thursday, May 18, 2023 5:07 PM
Thursday, May 18, 2023 5:43 PM
Quote: Ukraine’s Suicidal Offensive is Bleeding Out While the CIA Loses Its Mind Comment... “Russians actually want this nazi offensive to happen, to destroy vast amounts of Ukranazistani equipment and manpower, which would allow freedom for a Russian offensive to develop. ” Agreed. As I have noted in other comments, this is exactly what the Soviet trained Iraqis repeatedly did to the US trained Iranians in the Iran-Iraq War in the 80’s. When the UAF launches its offensive expect: 1. Token resistance from the forward line of defense, followed by withdrawal in good order to the second line. 2. Stiffer resistance from the second line, followed by withdrawal in good order to the third line. 3. As the UAF advances into the salient, they enter a pre-planned and targeted kill zone, 4. 2 or 3 weeks of slaughter, 10’s of thousands of Ukrainian dead. 5. After the Ukrainian offensive is shattered, there may be an opportunity for a Russian breakthrough that could unhinge Ukraine’s entire defensive line in the Donbas.
Thursday, May 18, 2023 9:49 PM
Thursday, May 18, 2023 10:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Meanwhile, back on topic (which SECOND persistently tries to derail)... Russian missiles are striking far into western Ukraine, targeting foreign weapons warehouses, ammo dumps, air defenses and command centers. THAT'S how you win a war. Not by targeting civilian administrative buildings. Poor SECOND. So wrapped up in delusion.
Friday, May 19, 2023 1:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Meanwhile, back on topic (which SECOND persistently tries to derail)... Russian missiles are striking far into western Ukraine, targeting foreign weapons warehouses, ammo dumps, air defenses and command centers. THAT'S how you win a war. Not by targeting civilian administrative buildings. Poor SECOND. So wrapped up in delusion.Did you forget that the US firebombed Tokyo, the Capital of Japan? No nukes. Ordinary ordinance. Nothing was spared, except the Emperor, because he was needed by the US after WWII. Everything else burned. The equivalent would be to firebomb Kyiv, the Capital of Ukraine, except that Volodymyr Zelenskyy would not be spared because he is merely a President, not an Emperor, and the culture of Ukraine is not similar to Japan's. For some unknown reason, the Russians can't get their bombers over Kyiv. I wonder what is stopping them? A more recent example? The US bombing Baghdad, the Capital of Iraq. Saddam Hussein's residences were not spared. That ended the Iraq War pretty damn quickly. Why don't the Russians try Shock and Awe? I wonder what is stopping them? Shock and Awe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_and_awe The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Friday, May 19, 2023 7:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Oh, you want Russia to go berserk, like you? Scratch a virtue-signaller and find a sociopath.
Friday, May 19, 2023 7:28 AM
Friday, May 19, 2023 8:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Oh, you want Russia to go berserk, like you? Scratch a virtue-signaller and find a sociopath. SECOND: In Ukraine, Russia is repeating WWII as if the Eastern Front was a big success rather than a huge slaughter of Russians by Russians. If Russia does not change its ineffective methods carried over from 1940-1945, Russia will kill many millions of Russians before the Ukrainian War is all over,
Friday, May 19, 2023 9:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Russians aren't losing hundreds of thousands of soldiers in Ukraine, Kiev is. Russians didn't use "human wave" tactics in WWII either. If you could just take a peek at reality once in a while you might correct some of that misinformation encrusting your brain, but I know you won't.
Friday, May 19, 2023 12:42 PM
Friday, May 19, 2023 2:02 PM
Friday, May 19, 2023 2:06 PM
Friday, May 19, 2023 2:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Biden says US will help Ukraine with F-16s: President Biden has told G-7 leaders during his trip to Japan that the U.S. will back an allied effort to train Ukrainian pilots on some aircraft, including F-16s, according to a CNN first report Friday morning. The months-long training probably won’t happen in the U.S. — instead taking place in Europe. But U.S. personnel may take part in the effort, according to CNN’s sources. It was already reported overnight that the Biden administration had signaled to European allies that the F-16 fighter jets would be sent to Ukraine. https://thehill.com/newsletters/1230-report/4012353-the-hills-1230-report-more-developments-in-the-us-involvement-in-ukraine/ The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Friday, May 19, 2023 8:23 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Of course. Every wunderwaffe that NATO has provided... javelins, HIMARS, Patriot missiles, leopard tanks, APCs, Storm Shadow missiles etc has pretty much turned out to be a dud. Bc really, if any of these had turned the tide, if Ukraine was WINNING!, would we be supplying YET ANOTHER weapons system? How long will it take us, do you think, before we finally reach into our back pocket and pull out a nuke?
Saturday, May 20, 2023 6:04 AM
Saturday, May 20, 2023 12:17 PM
Quote: Wagner Declares Full Capture Of Bakhmut After 224 Days Of Fighting Head of the Russian private military group Wagner, Yevgeny Prigozhin, has announced Saturday that after months of grinding warfare and heavy casualties, Russia has now taken full control of the strategic city of Bakhmut.
Saturday, May 20, 2023 1:03 PM
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