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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Thursday, January 26, 2023 12:39 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Thursday, January 26, 2023 12:41 PM
Quote: Ukraine Pivots To F-16 Fighter Jets Hours After Securing Tanks The Ukrainian side is of course fully aware that its strategy to keep pressing the West for bigger and more advanced weapons at all costs is working. The aforementioned defense ministry adviser explained to Reuters further: "They didn’t want to give us heavy artillery, then they did. They didn’t want to give us HIMARS systems, then they did. They didn’t want to give us tanks, now they’re giving us tanks," Sak said. "If we get them, the advantages on the battlefield will be just immense," he added. "It’s not just F-16s: fourth generation aircraft, this is what we want." And then this amazing, brazen admission: "Apart from nuclear weapons, there is nothing left that we will not get," Sak added. What is the limiting principle at this point? Because all we ever hear is the robotic mantra, "whatever Ukraine needs." Next week they may claim to "need" a nuclear warhead...? — Michael Tracey (@mtracey) January 26, 2023
Thursday, January 26, 2023 1:04 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Ukraine Pivots To F-16 Fighter Jets Hours After Securing Tanks https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-presses-hard-f-16-fighter-jets-immediately-after-securing-tanks Oh Jeez. More taxpayer dollars. At what point is Z going to ask for NATO soldiers? This is playing out like Vietnam
Thursday, January 26, 2023 1:26 PM
Thursday, January 26, 2023 1:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: You forget, SECOND,a Ukrainian President was already removed. That's what started this whole thing. Z's corrupt buddies have already died, been fired, or quit. And there's no need to remove him, since he's doing exactly what the neocons want: fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian.
Thursday, January 26, 2023 2:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: You forget, SECOND,a Ukrainian President was already removed. That's what started this whole thing. Z's corrupt buddies have already died, been fired, or quit. And there's no need to remove him, since he's doing exactly what the neocons want: fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian.Where is Viktor Yanukovych living, today? Russia. Of all the places he could be, he picks Russia. Back in Jan 2019, he was guilty of treason. It is not farfetched that a President would commit treason. There was this thing about Nixon committing treason, too. Did Nixon serve out his 4-year term or was he forced from office early? Nixon's V.P., Spiro Agnew, was forced from office for cheating on his taxes. Ukraine's ex-president Viktor Yanukovych found guilty of treason https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/25/ukraine-ex-president-viktor-yanukovych-found-guilty-of-treason Did Nixon Commit Treason in 1968? What The New LBJ Tapes Reveal. https://www.google.com/search?q=nixon+guilty+of+treason The fall of Spiro Agnew https://www.upi.com/Archives/1973/10/13/The-fall-of-Spiro-Agnew/5948130122572/ The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Thursday, January 26, 2023 2:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Yanukovich was never guilty of treason, you lying sack of shit. But nice try rewriting history.
Thursday, January 26, 2023 4:06 PM
Thursday, January 26, 2023 4:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Yeah, tried in absentia by a politicized court. Bullshit. Just like "Trump colluded with Russia" and I'm a Russian troll. You pass manure as reliably as a cow.
Thursday, January 26, 2023 4:42 PM
Thursday, January 26, 2023 5:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: It should not have been held at all, liar.
Friday, January 27, 2023 8:31 AM
Friday, January 27, 2023 2:06 PM
Friday, January 27, 2023 2:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: It should not have been held at all, liar. Ukrainian ex-President Viktor Yanukovych is not the only ex-President charged with treason. Petro Poroshenko has been charged, but he showed up for the legal proceedings, unlike Putin's choice for President. Poroshenko is even allowed to come and go from Ukraine. Apparently, Poroshenko trusts the Ukrainian legal system to give him a fair trial. I wonder why Yanukovych didn't trust the system? Could it be because 100 witnesses testified under oath that Yanukovych was working for Putin? Yanukovych was bribed by Putin, same as, for an American example, Nixon's Vice-President Spiro Agnew, who was fined $10,000 for not paying his income taxes on bribes he received. Agnew resigned as part of the leniency deal he got. Ukraine’s Ex-president Poroshenko Leaves Country for Political Meeting by Lulu Saghie June 25, 2022 https://theowp.org/ukraines-ex-president-poroshenko-leaves-country-for-political-meeting/ The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Friday, January 27, 2023 2:17 PM
Friday, January 27, 2023 2:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: It should not have been held at all, liar. Ukrainian ex-President Viktor Yanukovych is not the only ex-President charged with treason. Petro Poroshenko has been charged, but he showed up for the legal proceedings, unlike Putin's choice for President. Poroshenko is even allowed to come and go from Ukraine. Apparently, Poroshenko trusts the Ukrainian legal system to give him a fair trial. I wonder why Yanukovych didn't trust the system? Could it be because 100 witnesses testified under oath that Yanukovych was working for Putin? Yanukovych was bribed by Putin, same as, for an American example, Nixon's Vice-President Spiro Agnew, who was fined $10,000 for not paying his income taxes on bribes he received. Agnew resigned as part of the leniency deal he got. Ukraine’s Ex-president Poroshenko Leaves Country for Political Meeting by Lulu Saghie June 25, 2022 https://theowp.org/ukraines-ex-president-poroshenko-leaves-country-for-political-meeting/ The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly You think aftr being VIOLENLY OVERTHROWN and running for his life, Yanukovich should trust Ukraine's "justice system"? You're confabulating, SECOND. That's what nutty people do, and people with Alzheimer's. Might want to get a checkup from the neckup.
Quote:Ukrainian security officials say the killings of protesters in Kyiv in February occurred "under the direct leadership" of ousted President Viktor Yanukovych, and accused Russian security services of involvement in the repression. Interior Minister Arsen Avakov told a news conference in Kyiv on April 3 that Yanukovych "issued the criminal order...to open fire against protesters on February 18-20." More than 100 people were killed during the protests which started in November, most of them between February 18 and February 20. Many of those who died appeared to have been killed by snipers. Yanukovych fled the day after the worst of the killings by sniper fire on February 20 and was later ousted by parliament. In Moscow, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that "huge amounts of evidence" contradicted the statement by Ukrainian authorities that snipers loyal to Yanukovych opened fire on Kyiv protesters. Lavrov told reporters that "the truth about snipers has to be established in a transparent way."
Friday, January 27, 2023 2:38 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Friday, January 27, 2023 5:41 PM
Friday, January 27, 2023 6:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Yeah, and Milosevic was accused of genocide. He died in prison but, hey! He was (eventually) found innocent! You should know all about bogus accusations, SECOND. You make them all the time!
Friday, January 27, 2023 6:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Yeah, and Milosevic was accused of genocide. He died in prison but, hey! He was (eventually) found innocent! You should know all about bogus accusations, SECOND. You make them all the time! Oh, and ... Fuck Ukraine. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Do you think anyone actually reads your walls of gibberish, SECOND?
Saturday, January 28, 2023 6:42 AM
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Quote: Rickards: Has World War III Begun? Friday, Jan 27, 2023 - 06:45 PM via DailyReckoning.com, Has World War III already begun? That’s a serious question and deserves serious consideration by investors. A wave of analysts and commentators have warned that the war in Ukraine could spin out of control and escalate into World War III. One variation on that theme is that the war could escalate into a nuclear war with tactical nuclear weapons deployed. Most point a finger at Russia as the party that will launch a nuclear strike out of desperation at a failing campaign in Ukraine. Actually, the opposite is true. The Russian campaign is not failing (it has been on hold for several months awaiting the right conditions to launch a winter offensive). You just don’t hear about it in the mainstream media, which is essentially a propaganda outlet for Ukraine. And the party most likely to use nuclear weapons first is the U.S. in order to save face and destabilize Russia once Ukraine is on the brink of collapse. Reality Check Many people have a hard time believing that. They’ve been told that Putin is the devil incarnate and would probably like to destroy the world. We like to think that in modern times we’re sophisticated and above falling prey to propaganda. Unfortunately, it isn’t true. The fact is the U.S. did wage the only nuclear war in history from Aug. 6–9, 1945 and had a successful outcome. I’m not getting into the morality of it here, one way or the other. I’m just being objective. Either way, another nuclear war could not be contained and it would be tantamount to World War III. It amounts to the same thing. But my point is different. It’s not that we may be headed to World War III; it’s that we’re already there. The issue of when wars in general and world wars in particular begin and end is not as clear cut as many believe. There are many examples. When Does a War Officially Begin? It’s Complicated When did World War I begin? There were many precursors including the Agadir Crisis in Morocco (1911), the Italian-Turkish War (1911–12) and the Balkan Wars (1912–1913). Clearly, the First World War was in a countdown phase as early as 1911. More specifically, did World War I begin with the assassination of the Archduke Franz Ferdinand on June 28, 1914? The Austria-Hungary declaration of war on Serbia on July 28, 1914? Germany’s declaration of war on Russia on Aug. 1, 1914? The fact is the beginning of World War I (then called the Great War) was a series of blunders. There were many other mistakes in addition to those just mentioned. Of course, the U.S. did not enter World War I until April 6, 1917. The end of World War I was also a muddle. Most students recite Nov. 11, 1918, as the day the war ended. That’s not quite right. That is the day an armistice was signed and the shooting stopped. But an armistice is a ceasefire, not a peace treaty. The actual Versailles Treaty that ended the war was signed on June 28, 1919. There’s nothing new about blurry lines on when wars begin and end. The Korean War stopped with an armistice signed on July 27, 1953, but it’s still technically not over; there has never been a peace treaty. The most interesting case (and the one most pertinent to the war in Ukraine) is the beginning of World War II. When Did World War II Really Begin? Most Americans reflexively date this from Dec. 7, 1941, when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. That’s the right date for U.S. entry, but of course, the war began on Sept. 1, 1939, when Germany invaded Poland. The U.K. and France declared war on Germany on Sept. 3. Yet did World War II actually begin much earlier? Japan invaded Manchuria on Sept. 18, 1931. They established a puppet regime there called Manchukuo led by Emperor Puyi (the infamous “Last Emperor” of China, and a descendant of the Qing Dynasty). This was followed by a full-scale invasion of China by Japan in 1937 and the horrific Rape of Nanjing in December 1937. Of course, the European and Pacific theaters of World War II were different and geographically separated, but it is at least arguable that World War II began in China in 1931 or 1937 at the latest. I lean to that view personally. And let’s not ignore the Spanish Civil War (1936–1939) in which Germany bombed Guernica, Russia financed the Popular Front and mercenaries formed the International Brigades, including the American Abraham Lincoln Brigade. The spectacle of the U.S. and Russia fighting Germany on Spanish soil was a neat preview of World War II. The influx of foreign fighters to the war in Ukraine offers a modern parallel. The Case for the Start of World War III So the case for fuzzy beginnings and endings of wars is clear. What’s the case for saying World War III has already begun based on the situation in Ukraine? The first point is the number of nations directly involved. It’s nonsense to say that NATO members are cheering on Ukraine from the sidelines. Those countries are directly involved in supplying weapons, intelligence, money, ammunition and boots on the ground. Polish troops are operating as mercenaries in Ukrainian uniforms. U.S. and U.K. special operators are inside Ukraine supplying intelligence, weapons training and help with logistics. (These special operators are often hired as contractors by the CIA and MI6 to disguise their connections to U.S. and U.K. intelligence.) Poland and Lithuania are supplying sophisticated Leopard tanks to Ukraine. The U.K. is preparing to supply their most sophisticated tank — the Challenger II, as well. The U.S. is providing Bradley Fighting Vehicles and Stryker armored vehicles. The U.S. is also supplying HIMARS (long-distance guided missile artillery) and Patriot anti-missile batteries. The West is providing Ukraine with ammunition, cash, drones, satellite imaging, signals intelligence (SIGINT) and human intelligence (HUMINT). Russia has been no slouch when it comes to enlisting allies and mercenaries. The Wagner Group, a privately owned mercenary army, has been on the front lines near Soledar and Bakhmut. Russia is getting drones from Turkey and Iran. Fighters are arriving from Syria. China is providing financial support and offering technology that helps Russia to build its weapons and continue its missile attacks. Up the Escalation Ladder Physical warfighting has occurred in Poland (a misguided Ukrainian missile), Belarus (also a misguided Ukrainian missile), Russia (drone attacks on airbases inside Russia with nuclear weapons nearby) and Germany (the sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines). There have also been naval battles on the Black Sea. Of course, a long list of countries is providing support for Ukraine by participating in U.S.- and EU-led financial and economic sanctions. The countries now directly involved in the war in Ukraine with weapons, money, intelligence, mercenaries or financial sanctions include the U.S., the U.K., Germany, France, Poland, Lithuania, Canada, Australia, Ukraine, Russia, China, Syria, Iran, Turkey, Japan, Romania, Belarus and Moldova. These countries span four continents. The economic ramifications are global. If this is not a world war, it’s not clear what is. The Third World War is here. It may be at the 1937 stage rather than the 1941 stage. Let’s hope that status prevails. It likely will not. Importantly for investors, this war is not close to a conclusion. It is far more likely to expand in terms of affected nations, financial sanctions and kinetic warfare. The danger of escalation to a nuclear exchange is real and growing. Will anyone stop it before it’s too late?
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THG
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Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Brian Berletic, of the New Atlas, with Donbass Devushka . Donbass Devushka explains the Russian Battalion Tactical Group (BTG) - why it was created, how it is formed, its relationship to its brigade, how it operates, its command structure etc Unlike some of THUGR's videos, this is probably informative.
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Tuesday, January 31, 2023 3:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The end stage of McFaul's twitch is giving nukes to Ukraine. McFaul doesn't understand that none of our conventional weapons are superior in number or capability to Russia's. As Obama pointed out, Russia has "escalatory dominance". That leaves only one option. And neocons are rabid enuf to go there. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Tuesday, January 31, 2023 4:33 PM
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Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: lol I can't wait until the Leftists are purged from the mainstream. We're getting there.
Tuesday, January 31, 2023 6:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: lol I can't wait until the Leftists are purged from the mainstream. We're getting there.You are channeling...
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