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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Saturday, November 12, 2022 6:06 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: PS: The USA is at war with Russia.
Saturday, November 12, 2022 6:11 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Nobody cares. I'm flat out rooting for Russia now. -------------------------------------------------- I'm a Democrat now. Let's erase history, burn everything down and start over. China's going to end up owning everything anyways.The longer this war goes on, the longer Russia can't find buyers for its natural gas, which just so happens to be very profitable for Texas, which can sell all the natural gas it produces since Texas is not at war with anybody. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two Except, if course, for the bottleneck of turning nat gas into LNG and shipping it overseas. Russia has no problems selling natgas to China and India. The high prices are a result of the EU and UK shooting themselves in the foot and blowing up the Nordstreams. Now they have to pay ANY price for non-Russian natgas, and since this is a global commodity spot prices rise everywhere. PS: The USA is at war with Russia. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Nobody cares. I'm flat out rooting for Russia now. -------------------------------------------------- I'm a Democrat now. Let's erase history, burn everything down and start over. China's going to end up owning everything anyways.The longer this war goes on, the longer Russia can't find buyers for its natural gas, which just so happens to be very profitable for Texas, which can sell all the natural gas it produces since Texas is not at war with anybody. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Nobody cares. I'm flat out rooting for Russia now. -------------------------------------------------- I'm a Democrat now. Let's erase history, burn everything down and start over. China's going to end up owning everything anyways.
Saturday, November 12, 2022 7:18 PM
Saturday, November 12, 2022 8:19 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: November 09, 2022 - Democratic President Joe Biden, with little congressional review, has sent nearly $20 billion in arms and humanitarian aid to Ukraine since the war started in late February. https://www.voanews.com/a/democrats-republicans-say-they-will-back-ukraine-whoever-controls-congress/6827454.html Biden's 2023 Budget Proposal Sees Another $6.9 Billion For Ukraine, NATO https://www.rferl.org/a/biden-budget-ukraine-nato/31774703.html
Saturday, November 12, 2022 11:38 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Sunday, November 13, 2022 1:56 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Surovikin’s Difficult Choice Russia Abandons Kherson Big Serge <-- WHO IS THIS? Ultimate, there seems to be no deal that satisfies both sides, and this reflects that the innate hostility between the two nations must be resolved on the battlefield. Only Ares can adjudicate this dispute. As for Ares, he has been hard at work in Pavlovka. While the world was fixated on the relatively bloodless change of hands in Kherson, Russia and Ukraine fought a bloody battle for Pavlovka, and Russia won. Ukraine also attempted to break Russia’s defenses in the Svatove axis, and was repulsed with heavy casualties. Ultimately, the main reason to doubt news of a secret deal is the fact that the war is continuing on all the other fronts - and Ukraine is losing. This leaves only one option.
Quote:To all those who may be dooming or wildly rejoicing. This war is not between Russia and Ukraine. This is not even war, this is a special military operation and for good reason. Let me elaborate. First things first this struggle is between American empire and Russia, not Russia and the west, and certainly not Russia and Ukraine. The empire chose to precipitate matters maybe as an example for China or to have Russia defeated before attacking China. Regardless why, what was intended was for Russia to come in all guns blazing takeover all of Ukraine in short order and THEN get mired in a long bloody insurgency loosing men materiel and treasure. The freezing of assets and overwhelming sanctions would then further deteriorate the internal conditions such as that political instability would set in finally resulting in regime change. Russia could then be raped dismembered devoured by the empire at leisure. This is why the special military operation is a special military operation and not a war. The objective here is not simply to defeat the Ukrainian army, it is rather designed to bring maximum damage to the empire while keeping the costs for Russia manageable. The Russian campaign is running on simmer being careful not to let the situation boil over at any point. The pace of operations is glacial on purpose. The longer the conflict is drawn out the more harm the empire and it's allies will endure. Their policies will result in self inflicted pain, their hubris will not let them walk back to more sensible positions. The empire is trapped in a pit it has dug, its allies are mere hostages. Is there a point of pain that can be reached where the citizens of Europe may demand of their leaders to revolt against the empire? Who knows if such a point exists, if it is reached this winter or the next? However there is another sphere where the battle is taking place and that is in the nation's that are not in the hallowed west. Here in the nations some poor and some not so much an evaluation of prospects is being done. Siding with the west is safe from reprisals but in the emerging economic scenario might be tantamount to suicide. Even the dimmest leaders know their fate if they fail to keep their citizens fed and supplied with essentials. Considerable shifts have already materialised and more are sure to follow as things get tighter. The empire potentially losing European allies or losing influence across the globe are far more valuable objectives than a quick roll up of the Ukrainian army. Signym, that is a long paragraph, but the propaganda is just getting started: On the tactical side the Ukrainian leadership continues to throw it's troops onto prepared Russian defences and continues to suffer unfavorable casualty ratio of at least 1 to 5 if not more. Can Ukraine continue this frivolous behaviour for another six months a year two years? Can they continue to be supplied for as long? Can the West ,will the west continue to foot the bill to keep Ukraine running and fighting? How many more Ukrainian refugees will Europe accomodate? 10 mln? 20 mln? Russian aim of denazification will be accomplished either by destruction on the contact line of those willing to fight or by emigration of those unwilling to fight. Signym, that's not the end of the comment, but there is no truth here.
Sunday, November 13, 2022 2:00 AM
Sunday, November 13, 2022 2:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: All you do is post propaganda dude. -------------------------------------------------- Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
Sunday, November 13, 2022 4:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: All you do is post propaganda dude. -------------------------------------------------- Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.6ix, it was just last week that you predicted the Democratic Party is dead.
Sunday, November 13, 2022 7:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: All you do is post propaganda dude. -------------------------------------------------- Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.6ix, it was just last week that you predicted the Democratic Party is dead. Mail in fraud is a thing that needs to be taken care of. Have you stopped to ask yourself just how in the hell the Republicans won the popular vote in the mid-terms? That hasn't happened once before in my life. All it takes is a bunch of harvested, unsolicited mail-in fraud ballots in swing states to win. You guys have done it twice now. The funny thing is that you never do it in states like California and New York because you should always win those and look what happened there. A few surprises, huh? My predictions are sound. You guys keep cheating and you'll get that Civil War you keep talking about. Fuck around and find out. -------------------------------------------------- Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
Sunday, November 13, 2022 8:20 AM
Sunday, November 13, 2022 9:46 AM
Sunday, November 13, 2022 12:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: All you do is post propaganda dude. -------------------------------------------------- Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.6ix, it was just last week that you predicted the Democratic Party is dead. Mail in fraud is a thing that needs to be taken care of. Have you stopped to ask yourself just how in the hell the Republicans won the popular vote in the mid-terms? That hasn't happened once before in my life. All it takes is a bunch of harvested, unsolicited mail-in fraud ballots in swing states to win. You guys have done it twice now. The funny thing is that you never do it in states like California and New York because you should always win those and look what happened there. A few surprises, huh? My predictions are sound. You guys keep cheating and you'll get that Civil War you keep talking about. Fuck around and find out. -------------------------------------------------- Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.6ix, you are insane.
Sunday, November 13, 2022 12:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Surovikin’s Difficult Choice Russia Abandons Kherson Big Serge SECUND: <-- WHO IS THIS?
Quote:Big Serge: ... hard at work in Pavlovka. While the world was fixated on the relatively bloodless change of hands in Kherson, Russia and Ukraine fought a bloody battle for Pavlovka, and Russia won. Ukraine also attempted to break Russia’s defenses in the Svatove axis, and was repulsed with heavy casualties. ... https://bigserge.substack.com/p/surovkins-difficult-choice SECOND: Signym, this is a load of bullshit from the anonymous BigSerge.
Quote: SECOND: The comment section is pure Russian propaganda:
Sunday, November 13, 2022 1:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: It's not what Big Serge posted, so ... Did what he write make sense? Is it consistent with the facts? It seems so to me. Why aren't you addressing that instead of going off in the comments? Oh, I know. It's bc you can't. I notice that whenever your argument runs into trouble you change the topic. Usually you post something about Trump and insult people. So obvious.
Sunday, November 13, 2022 2:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: It's not what Big Serge posted, so ... Did what he write make sense? Is it consistent with the facts? It seems so to me. Why aren't you addressing that instead of going off in the comments? Oh, I know. It's bc you can't. I notice that whenever your argument runs into trouble you change the topic. Usually you post something about Trump and insult people. So obvious. SECOND: Consistency and logic are easy to create, Signym. Novelists create consistency and logic as a way of life. Perhaps you read The Lord of the Rings? Tolkien's world creation is consistent and logical, but it is not real. blah blah blah ...
Sunday, November 13, 2022 2:49 PM
Sunday, November 13, 2022 3:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: There's one thing missing from your bullshit... well, there ate several things missing from your crap splatter, SECOND. Logic. And consistency. Bc you CONSTANTLY contradict yourself.
Sunday, November 13, 2022 3:29 PM
Sunday, November 13, 2022 4:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Didn't even bother to read, SECOND. It prolly contradicts your immediately previous post. I hope you don't mind. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Monday, November 14, 2022 7:45 AM
Monday, November 14, 2022 8:39 AM
Monday, November 14, 2022 9:44 AM
Monday, November 14, 2022 12:26 PM
THG
Monday, November 14, 2022 1:22 PM
Monday, November 14, 2022 3:43 PM
Monday, November 14, 2022 5:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I haven't bothered to read, SECOND. It probably contradicts your immediately previous post. I hope you don't mind. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Hahaha!! I don't know, but I'm glad it hasn't been driiled into my head, yet! When was it aired?? I generally DON'T listen to music. I knew people at work, it was their passion. They went to Coachella every year and it was like a competition almost to find the newest most under- appreciated group/singer before anyone else did. I think the only time I listen is when somebody brings something tomy attention. I heard "some of us" on Bones and "Hallelujah" in Shrek. When I was reviewing data somebody brought me a thumb drive of compiled videogame music, so that started me on PrimeCronus. Or I would hear something that somebody was playing at work that was interesting. One of the posters here (I forget who) put me on to Two Cellos, and that popped up the Pentatonix. And if course there's Favorite Songs that exposes me to music I might not have heard otherwise. I bunny trailed my way to the call to prayer (it's quite beautiful), church bells, and other liturgical music. But mostly, I don't listen. Lots of music passes me by. I actually listen to geopolitical podcasts when I'm working in the kitchen, it keeps me from getting bored but it's what I call "bubblegum for the mind"- I chew on it while it's there but when it's gone, it's gone. I should probably find a more productive use fro my ears. Stock picks, or something. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Monday, November 14, 2022 5:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I haven't bothered to read, SECOND. It probably contradicts your immediately previous post. I hope you don't mind.
Monday, November 14, 2022 5:33 PM
Quote: I haven't bothered to read, SECOND. It probably contradicts your immediately previous post. I hope you don't mind. SECIND: I have a theory that Signym leaves clues to what is wrong with Signym's mind. blah blah blah
Monday, November 14, 2022 6:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: I haven't bothered to read, SECOND. It probably contradicts your immediately previous post. I hope you don't mind. SECIND: I have a theory that Signym leaves clues to what is wrong with Signym's mind. blah blah blah Son, you don't leave "clues" you leave great sweeping walls of incoherence. And libel, personal insults, and red herrings. When you start putting some thought into your posts, they might be worth reading. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Tuesday, November 15, 2022 3:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I haven't bothered to read, SECOND. It probably contradicts your immediately previous post. I hope you don't mind. SECOND: I have a theory that Signym leaves clues to what is wrong with Signym's mind. blah blah blah SIGNY: Son, you don't leave "clues" you leave great sweeping walls of incoherence. And libel, personal insults, and red herrings. When you start putting some thought into your posts, they might be worth reading. [ SECOND: A new clue for Signym, but about Russia rather than about Signym: EU at UN-NY @EUatUN tweeted: Adopted Today @UN General Assembly recognizes Russia must be held accountable for its aggression against Ukraine. Adopted by 94 to 14 votes,
Tuesday, November 15, 2022 5:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Let's see... 193 members. That's 94 for, 14 against, and 85 abstentions. Since arithemtic isn't your thing, there were more no votes and abstentions (99) than votes for. Not a ringing endorsement, is it? You know what this is about? Ursula van der Crazy is trying to find a way to seize the Russian assets that they froze last year. The EU is just trying to find a way to steal Russia's money. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Tuesday, November 15, 2022 10:07 AM
Tuesday, November 15, 2022 12:32 PM
Tuesday, November 15, 2022 4:32 PM
Quote: The Kherson question November 15, 2022 22 Comments Notes and reflections by Nora Hoppe for the Saker blog To retreat or not to retreat Preface: I have no idea about war… I have never experienced one. I understand nothing of military campaigns, strategies, manoeuvres, weapons, etc. I’ve only seen several war films, read novels featuring war and followed the news on various wars… * * * I have heard that each war is different, and that comparisons are only useful for “certain aspects”. I follow the news regularly on Russia’s Special Military Operation in Ukraine. And I have recently read and heard many varying and divisionary views on the withdrawal of Russian troops from Kherson, a city that is now lawfully part of Russia. Dispensing with the views of the pro-NATO side, which are of no interest, I am observing the division of thought amongst analysts, journalists and commenters in forums siding with the Russians: There are those who are outraged and see the withdrawal from Kherson as “a disgrace”, “a sign of weakness”, “an embarrassment”, “a poor strategy”, “unattractive optics”, etc. Others see it as the outcome of a difficult but wise decision – that was primarily made to save the lives of Russian soldiers, who would have been cut off by a massive flood if NATO were to blow up the Kakhovka Dam. (There may well be additional tactical reasons for the withdrawal, but they are not (yet) known to the public.) When people speak of the “optics not looking good“… a film set immediately comes to my mind (I have worked in the film world for many years). And that immediately tells me how some people view this operation – as spectators: it has to have a good catchy script, suspense, uninterrupted action and – heaven forbid – no lulls! It has to ultimately supply a dopamine release. It has to have a “Dirty Harry Catharsis”. This reminds me of similar reactions to the prisoner exchange in mid-September, where some saw it as a sign of weakness to even think of releasing Azov prisoners… or when the Chinese government did not deliver a dramatic retort when Pelosi went to do her skit in Taiwan. What is at the base of these kinds of reactions? Why such impatience? Why such concern with “appearances”? Why such a need to satiate one’s own personal sense of justice and retribution? Does it have something to do with consuming? Especially in the western world one has become an addicted consumer of not only things but “experiences” that can be lived indirectly. Today we witness events of other peoples’ wars and battles on computer screens from the comfort of our homes or on our tiny phones from chic cafés… these events can accessed at any moment – just press a key… and they appear – like a scene in a film, a game, a contest, a sports match. Even the dead bodies that lie mangled, bloodied or in gory stumps strewn over the mud become the pieces of a broken puppets on a stage. “Hell, one gets used to it…” The sacredness of Life is gone. We have become spectators… and our world has become a spectacle. Untitled:Users:Nora:Desktop:image-20151104-21235-9z091s.jpg In his philosophical work and critique of contemporary consumer culture, “The Society of the Spectacle”, Guy Debord describes modern society as one in which authentic social life has been replaced with its representation: “All that once was directly lived has become mere representation.” He argues that the history of social life can be understood as “the decline of being into having… and having into merely appearing.” This condition is the “historical moment at which the commodity completes its colonisation of social life.”
Quote:I don’t want to veer off into the film world or into a philosophical discourse here… but I just want to ask the question: When are we going to wake up to the real, authentic world? When are we going to stop fussing about “cool appearances”, “sensational manoeuvres” and “snappy rebuttals”… and start remembering what this operation is all about in the first place? Isn’t it essentially about LIVES? Not only about the lives of those who have been suffering injustices and atrocities in Donetsk and Lugansk (and elsewhere) since 2014 (at least)… but also the lives of those fighting for the salvation and survival of those other lives… and – by extension – the lives of sovereign human beings on the planet who yearn to live in a better, multipolar world?
Quote: President Vladimir V. Putin had tried to avoid a military response in Ukraine for many long years until the Russian people and Russia began to be faced with its devastation from outside, especially with the burgeoning NATO menace and the enhanced cultivation of the neo-Nazi regime in Ukraine. It is not an easy decision to take risky military measures to confront an inevitable clash. In his speech on National Unity Day before the historians and representatives of Russia’s traditional religions on 4th November he visibly expressed his horror and personal pain over the profound tragedy of this clash and over what was befalling the Ukrainian people: “The situation in Ukraine has been driven by its so-called ‘friends’ to the stage where it has become deadly for Russia and suicidal for the Ukrainian people themselves. And we see this even in the nature of the hostilities, what is happening there is simply shocking. It’s just as if the Ukrainian people do not exist. They are thrown into the furnace and that’s it.” Perhaps the “transient” retreat from Kherson is not a setback and can be even seen as a victory, another kind of victory – a moral victory.
Quote: In his powerful masterpiece, “War and Peace”, Lev Nikolaevich Tolstoy depicts the Battle of Borodino as the greatest example of Russian patriotism… The collective engagement of all those involved in the Battle of Borodino is what ultimately attained the end result: despite all their losses and the sacrificial need to evacuate Moscow and burn its resources – in order to save the army and Russia, the Russians, achieved a moral victory in this battle… which ultimately led to the comprehensive victory of the Russian army and the entire campaign.
Quote: “Several tens of thousands of the slain lay in diverse postures and various uniforms on the fields and meadows belonging to the Davýdov family and to the crown serfs—those fields and meadows where for hundreds of years the peasants of Borodinó, Górki, Shevárdino, and Semënovsk had reaped their harvests and pastured their cattle. At the dressing stations the grass and earth were soaked with blood for a space of some three acres around. Crowds of men of various arms, wounded and unwounded, with frightened faces, dragged themselves back to Mozháysk from the one army and back to Valúevo from the other. Other crowds, exhausted and hungry, went forward led by their officers. Others held their ground and continued to fire.” [“War and Peace” – book 10; chapter 39]
Tuesday, November 15, 2022 6:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I thought this was interesting. I can't claim to know what the Kiev leadership, or the individual soldiers, are fighting for. Or what the Russian leadership and soldiers are fighting for. I'm overall wary of a fight for an ideology... "freedom", "god", "religion", "patriotism" or something equally evanescent. IMHO if you're going to fight for something, it had better be specific.
Tuesday, November 15, 2022 6:50 PM
Tuesday, November 15, 2022 7:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: OMG SECIND, you are so stupid. The point bounced off your fender-head. You're posting an analogy as a purpose. "Putin is like Stalin". I dispute the analogy. But more importantly, your post doesn't explain what Russia is fighting FOR. Dunderhead. * Walks away, muttering* ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Tuesday, November 15, 2022 7:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: OMG SECIND, you are so stupid. The point bounced off your fender-head. You're posting an analogy as a purpose. "Putin is like Stalin". I dispute the analogy. But more importantly, your post doesn't explain what Russia is fighting FOR. Dunderhead. * Walks away, muttering* SECIND: Putin declared what Russia is fighting for. Pick whichever reasons from Putin's list that you think are real reasons, or pick all of them. I think all of Putin's reasons are lies. He invaded Ukraine for his personal glorification in the history books as the next Peter the Great,
Tuesday, November 15, 2022 8:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: You've posted so many conflicting opinions ... Russians support the war in Ukraine. Except when they don't. Russian soldiers are brave and stalwart when the confront their military. Except when they commit atrocities. Russians don't know how to fight wars/kill efficiently. Except when they use standoff weapons, and then they're cowards. We're not at war with the Russian people. Except they're no better than orcs. We're not at war with Russia. Except we want to destroy it. I'm sure you'll post some other bullshit in the next post or two that will completely contradict what you just posted. The incoherence of your posts is why I rarely bother with more than a sentence or two. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Tuesday, November 15, 2022 10:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: You've posted so many conflicting opinions ... Russians support the war in Ukraine. Except when they don't. Russian soldiers are brave and stalwart when the confront their military. Except when they commit atrocities. Russians don't know how to fight wars/kill efficiently. Except when they use standoff weapons, and then they're cowards. We're not at war with the Russian people. Except they're no better than orcs. We're not at war with Russia. Except we want to destroy it. I'm sure you'll post some other bullshit in the next post or two that will completely contradict what you just posted. The incoherence of your posts is why I rarely bother with more than a sentence or two. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake Russians are traumatized people.
Tuesday, November 15, 2022 10:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Hahaha!!! See what I mean? In another post or two you'll change your mind. If you're going to blame their inconsistency on trauma, SECOND... what does that say about you? Bc I don't believe they're inconsistent. It's you. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Wednesday, November 16, 2022 12:53 AM
Quote: Originally posted by SIGNYM: Hahaha!!! See what I mean? In another post or two you'll change your mind. If you're going to blame their inconsistency on trauma, SECOND... what does that say about you? Bc I don't believe they're inconsistent. It's you. SECOND: Signym, you might think you're making sense, but you haven't looked at Russia 1985-1999: TraumaZone. The Russians have been in the middle of a mental crisis for decades. blah blah blah.. will be an excuse to go crazy on another country after Ukraine.
Wednesday, November 16, 2022 7:20 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Originally posted by SIGNYM: Hahaha!!! See what I mean? In another post or two you'll change your mind. If you're going to blame their inconsistency on trauma, SECOND... what does that say about you? Bc I don't believe they're inconsistent. It's you. SECOND: Signym, you might think you're making sense, but you haven't looked at Russia 1985-1999: TraumaZone. The Russians have been in the middle of a mental crisis for decades. blah blah blah.. will be an excuse to go crazy on another country after Ukraine. Your problem, SECOND, is that you think of "Russians"... or "Trumptards"... or "Jehovah's Witnesses"... as if they're all the same. You land on one characteristic ... Russians under the Tsars craved authoritarianism. Or, were backward. Superstitious. What-have-you. And then you apply it to ALL Russians, from time immemorial to the indefinite future. You land on ANOTHER characteristic... Russians lost too many people fighting WWII .. and you apply THAT to all Russians throughout time and space. And then you land, like a fly, on yet another characteristic: Russians are traumatized. And you apply it to Russians who suffered thru the breakup of their union and the depredations of the west, to those who never did. You're dredging up anything negative that you can find and you splatter it liberally, whether it fits or not. In my observation, SECOND, people who spend as much time AS YOU virtue-signalling how great they are and trying to break others down feel anxious, depressed, and massively guilty about themselves Why do you feel like shit, SECOND? **** And now, back to our regularly scheduled topic. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Wednesday, November 16, 2022 11:34 AM
Wednesday, November 16, 2022 1:10 PM
Quote: Originally posted by SIGNYM: Hahaha!!! See what I mean? In another post or two you'll change your mind. If you're going to blame their inconsistency on trauma, SECOND... what does that say about you? Bc I don't believe they're inconsistent. It's you. SECOND: Signym, you might think you're making sense, but you haven't looked at Russia 1985-1999: TraumaZone. The Russians have been in the middle of a mental crisis for decades. blah blah blah.. will be an excuse to go crazy on another country after Ukraine. SIGNY: Your problem, SECOND, is that you think of "Russians"... or "Trumptards"... or "Jehovah's Witnesses"... as if they're all the same. You land on one characteristic ... Russians under the Tsars craved authoritarianism. Or, were backward. Superstitious. What-have-you. And then you apply it to ALL Russians, from time immemorial to the indefinite future. You land on ANOTHER characteristic... Russians lost too many people fighting WWII .. and you apply THAT to all Russians throughout time and space. And then you land, like a fly, on yet another characteristic: Russians are traumatized. And you apply it to Russians who suffered thru the breakup of their union and the depredations of the west, to those who never did. You're dredging up anything negative that you can find and you splatter it liberally, whether it fits or not. In my observation, SECOND, people who spend as much time AS YOU virtue-signalling how great they are and trying to break others down feel anxious, depressed, and massively guilty about themselves Why do you feel like shit, SECOND? **** And now, back to our regularly scheduled topic. Second: Signym, Russians are measurably crazy.
Wednesday, November 16, 2022 1:58 PM
Quote: Kyiv Demands Access To Poland Blast Site, Doubles Down On 'Russian Attack' Narrative
Quote: Suspected Ukrainian Drone Strikes Fuel Depot Deep In Russian Territory Wednesday, Nov 16, 2022 - 06:05 PM Though all eyes have been on the Polish border blast and resulting back-and-forth on who was to responsible, a separate major attack unfolded in southern Russia near the Ukraine border on Wednesday. Russian authorities described a suspected drone attack after a fuel depot exploded. It took place in Oryol oblast about 125 miles from the Ukrainian border. "Today [Wednesday] at 04:00 [01:00 GMT] a suspected drone blew up a fuel depot in the village of Stalnoi Kon. There were no casualties," the Oryol regional governor said in a statement. Aftermath of drone attack on fuel depot. Source: ogtrk.ru/Moscow Times If confirmed that it was a Ukrainian drone attack, it marks a significant escalation, given the distance of the facility from the border. The AFP/Moscow Times observes, "Most of the attacks occurred against targets only tens of kilometers from the border, which makes Wednesday's incident stand out for taking place deeper into Russian territory." It's likely Ukrainian retaliation for the ongoing devastating Russian airstrikes seeking to degrade and disable Ukraine's energy infrastructure at a moment frigid winter temperatures approach. Starting last Spring, and in the months that followed, Ukraine's military launched a series of attacks on Russia's next door Belgorod region. On Tuesday, Kyiv reported many dozens of Russian strikes across the country which hit as far West as Lviv. Zelensky's office cited that the national energy was "critical" after the sustained attacks. As The Guardian described, "Ukraine’s public broadcaster reported that the strikes targeted Kyiv, Kyiv region, Kharkiv city as well as Poltava, Mykolaiv, Dnipro, Zhytomyr, Khmelnytskiy, Lviv, Volyn, Rivne, Cherkassy, Odesa, Kirovohrad, and Chernihiv regions." State energy company Ukrenergo announced emergency shutdowns "for all categories of consumers have been introduced" in the northern and central regions, which were the areas which suffered the most immediate damage from the strikes.
Wednesday, November 16, 2022 4:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: You see? You're doing it again You take one example, mind-read the shit out of it, then apply it liberally to an entire group of people. The only crazy person here is you. Get yourself fixed, SECOND, or at least stop using this board as your toilet. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Wednesday, November 16, 2022 4:23 PM
Wednesday, November 16, 2022 5:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: How long do you suppose you're going to keep this thread of lies going on, you Neo-Con bootlicking worm? -------------------------------------------------- Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
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