Sign Up | Log In
REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS
Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Monday, November 7, 2022 3:43 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Correction: AMERICANS are interfering with. Using Ukrainian nitwits as cannon fodder. All while Raytheon and the rest of the War Machine gets even richer and puppet President and child rapist crossdresser Zelinsky gets his payouts. You disgust me. -------------------------------------------------- Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibusRussia controlled Poland, East Germany, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania until the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991. Putin was stationed in East Germany until that collapse. He wants to take over those lands, again, plus all the other territory that the Soviet Union lost control over, including Ukraine, which is interfering with Putin's Grand Design. Every time Putin mentions his nukes and all the brand new designs for nuclear weapons he has built since 1999, Putin is telling you what his plans are for World Conquest. 6ix, you should pay attention. That $5,500 billion the US spent for nuclear weapons was intended to stop the Soviet Union from taking over the world. Good thing the money was spent, or else Putin would have already succeed in his Grand Design. The Collapse of the Soviet Union https://history.state.gov/milestones/1989-1992/collapse-soviet-union The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Correction: AMERICANS are interfering with. Using Ukrainian nitwits as cannon fodder. All while Raytheon and the rest of the War Machine gets even richer and puppet President and child rapist crossdresser Zelinsky gets his payouts. You disgust me. -------------------------------------------------- Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
Monday, November 7, 2022 4:30 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Monday, November 7, 2022 4:36 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Oh fuck you. Seriously.
Monday, November 7, 2022 5:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Oh fuck you. Seriously.
Monday, November 7, 2022 5:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Oh Jeezus, SECOND. It's very simple: Putin doesn't want nuclear missiles or NATO forces on his border. He may have to concede on the NATO forces, but he's going to hang rough on the nukes This isn't about occupying territory, you stupid sod. The Russians tried that already and it didn't work well for them. They don't intend to repeat that mistake.
Monday, November 7, 2022 8:41 PM
Monday, November 7, 2022 8:43 PM
Monday, November 7, 2022 8:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: It's very simple, SECOND. So simple, even you can get it! The collective west put nukes near Russias borders, so they put nukes near ours. If that bothers us, maybe we should negotiate agreements. And stick with them this time. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Nobody is using any nukes, you fucking idiot retard simple. Take your fear porn and stick it where you've already got your head. -------------------------------------------------- Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
Monday, November 7, 2022 9:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: In case 6ix can't understand, Putin has a revolver which he points at the US and then pulls the trigger. Just because his modified version of Russian Roulette has not yet killed the US is a bad reason for Putin to keep pulling the trigger, again and again, amusing himself with, perhaps, an unloaded revolver.
Monday, November 7, 2022 11:38 PM
Tuesday, November 8, 2022 1:02 AM
Tuesday, November 8, 2022 6:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: SECOND, dood- I majored in chemistry and minored in physics. I remember the Cuban Missile Crisis. We lived for decades with Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD). The USA has been seeking first strike capability since then, ducking out of treaties and forward-positioning missiles. Reducing the decision time from 30 minutes to 5-10. Russia just put us back to Mutual Assured Destruction, and the neocons' asses are chapped. If they don't like it, they can always negotiate. Honestly, this time. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Tuesday, November 8, 2022 7:58 AM
Tuesday, November 8, 2022 9:58 AM
THG
Tuesday, November 8, 2022 11:03 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: SECOND, dood- I majored in chemistry and minored in physics. I remember the Cuban Missile Crisis. We lived for decades with Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD). The USA has been seeking first strike capability since then, ducking out of treaties and forward-positioning missiles. Reducing the decision time from 30 minutes to 5-10. Russia just put us back to Mutual Assured Destruction, and the neocons' asses are chapped. If they don't like it, they can always negotiate. Honestly, this time. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake You and 6ixStringJack are so silly. 6ix keeps on with his "I'm a brave little boy!" act. It is cute, 6ix, but you are not brave at all. I could test that in person, but you already know it and are trying to hide from yourself.
Tuesday, November 8, 2022 1:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Who's the one spouting nuclear fear porn? Who's the little fraidycat who got jabbed multiple times, Mudblood? SPOILER ALERT: It ain't me. You're a pussy. Oh. And if that's a threat about coming to my house and doing something, you are more than welcome to come here and try. What's that? You don't know where I live? Why not? I know where you live. -------------------------------------------------- Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
Tuesday, November 8, 2022 1:30 PM
Tuesday, November 8, 2022 3:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Who's the one spouting nuclear fear porn? Who's the little fraidycat who got jabbed multiple times, Mudblood? SPOILER ALERT: It ain't me. You're a pussy. Oh. And if that's a threat about coming to my house and doing something, you are more than welcome to come here and try. What's that? You don't know where I live? Why not? I know where you live. -------------------------------------------------- Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus6ix, I didn't know you could get crazier, but you did. It could be the chemical fumes from last night's bamboo table painting got into your brain: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65350&mid=1164254#1164254
Quote:After killing your brain with years of alcohol and, last night, with paint chemicals, 6ix is energized by the thrill of voting for America's Own Fascist Party. http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65350&mid=1164268#1164268
Quote:I have a suggested replacement motto for "Make America Great Again" since that translates as "America Is Not So Great For Angry Poor White Trash".
Tuesday, November 8, 2022 7:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECOND, you and THUGR live in fanatsy worlds. You believe liars, and you lie to everyone including yourselves. The EU isn't prosperous. Southern European countries imploded in 2008 and many haven't recovered. They're facing a cold, dark, hungry winter... and a million or more desperate Ukrainian refugees. This is where their financialism, woo-woo ideology and geopolitical satrapy landed them. Best of luck, EU! AFA as nuclear weapons are concerned, Russia has countered every USA aggression. We are no longer nuclear-dominant. We face two conventional powers, not one. And two nuclear powers, not one. So, best of luck to us! Were going to need it.
Tuesday, November 8, 2022 7:58 PM
Tuesday, November 8, 2022 8:11 PM
Tuesday, November 8, 2022 9:23 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECOND, you and THUGR live in fanatsy worlds. You believe liars, and you lie to everyone including yourselves. The EU isn't prosperous. Southern European countries imploded in 2008 and many haven't recovered. They're facing a cold, dark, hungry winter... and a million or more desperate Ukrainian refugees. This is where their financialism, woo-woo ideology and geopolitical satrapy landed them. Best of luck, EU! AFA as nuclear weapons are concerned, Russia has countered every USA aggression. We are no longer nuclear-dominant. We face two conventional powers, not one. And two nuclear powers, not one. So, best of luck to us! Were going to need it. SECOND: Signym blah blah blah Ukraine is so small and Russia is so large
Tuesday, November 8, 2022 9:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Here you go. I print-screened the map for you because you're stupid. With 74% of the vote in, per CNN, DeSantis leads Crist by just shy of double digits in Miami-Dade fuckin' County. You Dems really dun fucked up. -------------------------------------------------- Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
Wednesday, November 9, 2022 8:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECOND, you and THUGR live in fanatsy worlds. You believe liars, and you lie to everyone including yourselves. The EU isn't prosperous. Southern European countries imploded in 2008 and many haven't recovered. They're facing a cold, dark, hungry winter... and a million or more desperate Ukrainian refugees. This is where their financialism, woo-woo ideology and geopolitical satrapy landed them. Best of luck, EU! AFA as nuclear weapons are concerned, Russia has countered every USA aggression. We are no longer nuclear-dominant. We face two conventional powers, not one. And two nuclear powers, not one. So, best of luck to us! Were going to need it. SECOND: Signym blah blah blah Ukraine is so small and Russia is so large Crocodile tears? Really? I wonder how much $$ Zelenskiy got for turning Ukrainians into cannon fodder. I would love to see you, THUGR, and CAPN wake up and smell the coffee. Yanno, we had a good run as world hegemon, and our petrodollar/ reserve currency status allowed up to splash our money around the globe. And TBH it benefitted the average USA citizen for a while. But that hasn't been the case for at least 30 years (thank you, Clinton, for making us financialists) and our constant war mongering is only benefiting a VERY small elite in the WEF, MIC, and various oligarchs that we shower with $$. And earned us a crapton of blowback So maybe we should sort out our own house first, and prepare to be a nation among nations. Able to stand on our own feet instead of constantly tromping on everyone else's. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Wednesday, November 9, 2022 9:40 AM
Wednesday, November 9, 2022 10:04 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Well... I guess we get to hear about this for two more years now. Anybody want to start a pool for how much of our money Biden* is going to give child rapist cross dresser Zelensky before his single term ends? -------------------------------------------------- Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
Wednesday, November 9, 2022 12:30 PM
Wednesday, November 9, 2022 2:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I got a better one. MAGA = Make Affordable Gas Again. Have fun watching your party get destroyed tonight retard.
Wednesday, November 9, 2022 3:28 PM
Thursday, November 10, 2022 8:33 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: According to various independent analysts, it's been clear as mud what the Russian command would decide about Kherson. They've been making moves ... evacuating citizens and removing historic artifacts... that could be interpreted as either a planned defense or a planned retreat. They've also been building fortifications and trenches, which looked very much like a committed defense. But ultimately I guess the logistics of defending the far (western) side of a wide river looked too difficult and too costly. Well, this is war. It would be unusual for one side or the other to experience unending victory. Inevitably there will be setbacks for both sides. Plus, think this is more in line with Russian strategy, which is NOT to take and hold ground, but to wear down Kiev's military while preserving their own. So once the ground freezes, expect to see a Kiev offensive in Kherson. It will probably come with huge losses for Kiev since the western side of the river will be within artillery range of Russians. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Thursday, November 10, 2022 1:29 PM
Thursday, November 10, 2022 6:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Nah... Russian Security Council always knew it would be Russia v NATO/USA. They've been preparing for this since at least 2007: forging economic ties with China, oil- and gas-producing nations (Iran, Saudi Arabia), erstwhile neutral nations (India), and geographically important nations (Turkey, the 'stans). Building up their military and hardening their economy and financial systems. Looking back, I can see that they hoped their feint towards Kiev would impel Kiev to negotiate. It almost, but ultimately didn't work. But they had backup plans, and backup plans to backup plans. Unlike before, tho, Russia doesn't intend to lose another 26 million in war. That's why the slow approach with standoff weapons. Since we've been invading poor, militarily disorganized nations we've gotten used to seeing a pattern of warfare: bomb the snot out of everything, civilian and military targets alike, and then - when everything is flattened- send in the troops. If anything is still moving, call in an airstrike. Russia doesn't seem to be doing that. They're fighting the whole collective west, so they're being conservative. It's not an easy fight. But it is a fight that I think Russia will ultimately win. What does winning lookike? Not taking Ukraine or any other European nation, that's for sure. I think it means a whole new security architecture. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Thursday, November 10, 2022 6:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: According to various independent analysts, it's been clear as mud what the Russian command would decide about Kherson. They've been making moves ... evacuating citizens and removing historic artifacts... that could be interpreted as either a planned defense or a planned retreat. They've also been building fortifications and trenches, which looked very much like a committed defense. But ultimately I guess the logistics of defending the far (western) side of a wide river looked too difficult and too costly. Well, this is war. It would be unusual for one side or the other to experience unending victory. Inevitably there will be setbacks for both sides. Plus, think this is more in line with Russian strategy, which is NOT to take and hold ground, but to wear down Kiev's military while preserving their own. So once the ground freezes, expect to see a Kiev offensive in Kherson. It will probably come with huge losses for Kiev since the western side of the river will be within artillery range of Russians.
Friday, November 11, 2022 5:39 AM
Friday, November 11, 2022 5:40 AM
Friday, November 11, 2022 6:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Putin’s dreams of establishing Russia as a great power on the back of its military strength are over, and so too are his ambitions of securing a legacy as one of the nation’s great state-builders. His reputation as a geopolitical mastermind is in tatters. Putin-the-man may still cling to power for years, but Putin-the-legend is dead. Even brittle and stagnating regimes can hold on for a long time. Tsarist Russia was arguably brain-dead by 1911, when the brutally reformist Prime Minister Petr Stolypin was assassinated, but it still lasted through three years of catastrophe in the First World War before crumbling in 1917. https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/11/opinions/after-putin-power-health-regime-galeotti/index.html The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Friday, November 11, 2022 10:08 AM
Friday, November 11, 2022 1:25 PM
Friday, November 11, 2022 2:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Nah... Russian Security Council always knew it would be Russia v NATO/USA. They've been preparing for this since at least 2007: forging economic ties with China, oil- and gas-producing nations (Iran, Saudi Arabia), erstwhile neutral nations (India), and geographically important nations (Turkey, the 'stans). Building up their military and hardening their economy and financial systems. Looking back, I can see that they hoped their feint towards Kiev would impel Kiev to negotiate. It almost, but ultimately didn't work. But they had backup plans, and backup plans to backup plans. Unlike before, tho, Russia doesn't intend to lose another 26 million in war. That's why the slow approach with standoff weapons. Since we've been invading poor, militarily disorganized nations we've gotten used to seeing a pattern of warfare: bomb the snot out of everything, civilian and military targets alike, and then - when everything is flattened- send in the troops. If anything is still moving, call in an airstrike. Russia doesn't seem to be doing that. They're fighting the whole collective west, so they're being conservative. It's not an easy fight. But it is a fight that I think Russia will ultimately win. What does winning lookike? Not taking Ukraine or any other European nation, that's for sure. I think it means a whole new security architecture. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake Russia’s objectives in the war against Ukraine are anything but clear. They have included “denazification” and “decommunisation”; ensuring the security of inhabitants of the Donbas; the demilitarisation and non-admission of Ukraine to Nato; the return of formerly Russian lands; the protection of the Russian language; and even the “saving” of Ukrainian cities from gay parades. The lack of clearly defined objectives makes the definition of victory uncertain. But this ambiguity also makes the criteria for defeat unclear — let alone one so bad as to endanger Putin. In fact, the Russian president had already survived several serious defeats: the invasion’s opening “blitzkrieg” failed, and Russian troops were forced to retreat from around Kyiv and several other cities. Russia lost the Moskva, the flagship of its Black Sea Fleet, and abandoned Snake Island, its first successful capture from the start of the war. After the hasty retreat from the outskirts of Kharkiv, another symbolically important target — the bridge to Crimea — was attacked. Other leaders might have already been toppled by such military failures, but not Putin. The fact is that Putin’s supporters do not perceive the invasion of Ukraine as an act of aggression. For them, it’s a retaliation against the much more powerful west. Researchers of Russian society are observing a startling paradox. History puts Russia in a row of vast western colonial empires. But after its defeat in the cold war, the collapse of the Soviet Union and the economic hardships of the 1990s, a growing number of Russians felt they had been reduced to a colony ruled by western forces. They now believe they are casting off the yoke which so humiliated their country and “imposed” capitalism upon it. In the eyes of dissatisfied Russians, any form of resistance to the west is a victory, almost regardless of the end result. Even in retreat, they will console themselves with the thought of having prevented Russia’s “further enslavement”. This is why there is no direct link between military setbacks and the weakening of Putin’s power. It is as difficult for the president to lose this war as it is to win it. Domestically, even the invasion itself is a sort of victory. Meanwhile, the passive majority can be convinced that any outcome is the best possible one. And the critics will be silenced with repression, just as they are now. Peace endangers Putin’s status as the challenger of the west. The Russian president is pushed into a virtually endless war for its own sake. https://www.ft.com/content/01cdcc3e-22b9-4230-ac11-6c7056098f3f The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Friday, November 11, 2022 3:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So, you're saying that Russia's war in Ukraine has widespread support in Russia? Then you day that Russian soldiers are running away, and that the Ptin "regime" only stays in power bc people are afraid of him?? Do you suppose it's possible for you to bang your propaganda points together, and decide on ONE story, instead of splattering the board with contradictory crap? Or are you just a committed crap-blaster? ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Friday, November 11, 2022 4:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So, you're saying that Russia's war in Ukraine has widespread support in Russia? Then you day that Russian soldiers are running away, and that the Ptin "regime" only stays in power bc people are afraid of him?? Do you suppose it's possible for you to bang your propaganda points together, and decide on ONE story, instead of splattering the board with contradictory crap? Or are you just a committed crap-blaster? ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake I assume you are unaware that close to 99% of all Russians are hypocrites, fakers, cowards, shirkers, and liars at every opportunity?
Quote: How would I know? Where is the proof? The best Russians left Russia,
Quote: SECOND leaving the worst in charge. It is so very easy for the hollow inside people, the leftover Russians, to support war (such is their worthlessness) and yet, when forced into combat, they prove themselves to be one of the 99% who are hollow men performing in no way as if they believe in what they "support" in their overheated imaginations. About 50% of Americans are like that and they struggle to stay in the middle-class
Quote:SECOND blah blah blah
Friday, November 11, 2022 5:37 PM
Friday, November 11, 2022 7:50 PM
Friday, November 11, 2022 8:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: What SECOND, THUGR,. and CAPN don't understand is that we- the collective west (EU, NATO, USA)- are throwing everything we have ... and I mean literally everything we have short of nukes, tanks, fighter jets, and (a lot of) troops... into Ukraine. Not just weapons, intel, and other military assets but entire economies and finances thrown into the furnace. Analysis of weapons available to Ukraine The UK and Germany are toast, economically. Ukraine is toast; it's infrastructure is crippled, at least a third of it's people have left and appx 100,000 men have been killed already. This is like an under-the-table war, where neither side is willing to admit how much they're putting into it.
Saturday, November 12, 2022 1:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: T
Saturday, November 12, 2022 6:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Nah... Russian Security Council always knew it would be Russia v NATO/USA. They've been preparing for this since at least 2007: forging economic ties with China, oil- and gas-producing nations (Iran, Saudi Arabia), erstwhile neutral nations (India), and geographically important nations (Turkey, the 'stans). Building up their military and hardening their economy and financial systems. Looking back, I can see that they hoped their feint towards Kiev would impel Kiev to negotiate. It almost, but ultimately didn't work. But they had backup plans, and backup plans to backup plans. Unlike before, tho, Russia doesn't intend to lose another 26 million in war. That's why the slow approach with standoff weapons. Since we've been invading poor, militarily disorganized nations we've gotten used to seeing a pattern of warfare: bomb the snot out of everything, civilian and military targets alike, and then - when everything is flattened- send in the troops. If anything is still moving, call in an airstrike. Russia doesn't seem to be doing that. They're fighting the whole collective west, so they're being conservative. It's not an easy fight. But it is a fight that I think Russia will ultimately win. What does winning lookike? Not taking Ukraine or any other European nation, that's for sure. I think it means a whole new security architecture. So, you're saying that Russia's war in Ukraine has widespread support in Russia? Then you day that Russian soldiers are running away, and that the Ptin "regime" only stays in power bc people are afraid of him?? Do you suppose it's possible for you to bang your propaganda points together, and decide on ONE story, instead of splattering the board with contradictory crap? Or are you just a committed crap-blaster?
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Nah... Russian Security Council always knew it would be Russia v NATO/USA. They've been preparing for this since at least 2007: forging economic ties with China, oil- and gas-producing nations (Iran, Saudi Arabia), erstwhile neutral nations (India), and geographically important nations (Turkey, the 'stans). Building up their military and hardening their economy and financial systems. Looking back, I can see that they hoped their feint towards Kiev would impel Kiev to negotiate. It almost, but ultimately didn't work. But they had backup plans, and backup plans to backup plans. Unlike before, tho, Russia doesn't intend to lose another 26 million in war. That's why the slow approach with standoff weapons. Since we've been invading poor, militarily disorganized nations we've gotten used to seeing a pattern of warfare: bomb the snot out of everything, civilian and military targets alike, and then - when everything is flattened- send in the troops. If anything is still moving, call in an airstrike. Russia doesn't seem to be doing that. They're fighting the whole collective west, so they're being conservative. It's not an easy fight. But it is a fight that I think Russia will ultimately win. What does winning lookike? Not taking Ukraine or any other European nation, that's for sure. I think it means a whole new security architecture.
Saturday, November 12, 2022 8:46 AM
Saturday, November 12, 2022 9:18 AM
Saturday, November 12, 2022 9:34 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Nobody cares. I'm flat out rooting for Russia now. -------------------------------------------------- I'm a Democrat now. Let's erase history, burn everything down and start over. China's going to end up owning everything anyways.
Saturday, November 12, 2022 3:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Nobody cares. I'm flat out rooting for Russia now. -------------------------------------------------- I'm a Democrat now. Let's erase history, burn everything down and start over. China's going to end up owning everything anyways.The longer this war goes on, the longer Russia can't find buyers for its natural gas, which just so happens to be very profitable for Texas, which can sell all the natural gas it produces since Texas is not at war with anybody. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
YOUR OPTIONS
NEW POSTS TODAY
OTHER TOPICS
FFF.NET SOCIAL