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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Friday, September 9, 2022 12:57 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Friday, September 9, 2022 1:12 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Friday, September 9, 2022 1:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: I suspect Russia was counting on the Donetsk and Luhansk militias to do more of the fighting.
Friday, September 9, 2022 4:48 PM
Friday, September 9, 2022 6:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Possibly this is Russia's attempt to train up the militias to national army standards by letting reality bitch slap them with failure, or winnowing out poor commanders. I suspect that Russia will pull their bacon out of the fire and possibly turn this into a cauldron. And maybe this was necessary but it sure looks bad. In the meantime, expect a massacre of "collaborators" by Kiev's army, a la Bucha.
Friday, September 9, 2022 6:19 PM
THG
Friday, September 9, 2022 7:17 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Shut up, meat popsicle. Your time is over. -------------------------------------------------- Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibusYou are not okay in the head, 6ix. Neither is Trump:
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Shut up, meat popsicle. Your time is over. -------------------------------------------------- Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
Friday, September 9, 2022 7:32 PM
Saturday, September 10, 2022 6:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Despite being outgunned and outmanned, Kiev troops sometimes fight like demons. I suspect Russia was counting on the Donetsk and Luhansk militias to do more of the fighting. Seems Russia is forming a Third Army (ThirdCorps) to reinforce the Donbas militias.
Saturday, September 10, 2022 8:22 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: SECOND: Google? Wikipedia? Shirley, you jest! ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Quote:Duped by the Kremlin’s announcements that said Ukraine needed to be “liberated” from neo-Nazis and ultra-nationalists, Russian troops found themselves among a “stormy sea” of hostile civilians, he said. They resorted to killing adult males and raping women as the only way to “suppress resistance and achieve a collective nervous breakdown”, he said. “[It was] physical and psychological destruction of a will to resist,” Kushch said.
Saturday, September 10, 2022 8:49 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Alternatively, you could go to Duck Duck Go https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Bucha Duck Duck Go says the truth is option 2) Ukraine's - the civilians were killed by Russians: Quote:Duped by the Kremlin’s announcements that said Ukraine needed to be “liberated” from neo-Nazis and ultra-nationalists, Russian troops found themselves among a “stormy sea” of hostile civilians, he said. They resorted to killing adult males and raping women as the only way to “suppress resistance and achieve a collective nervous breakdown”, he said. “[It was] physical and psychological destruction of a will to resist,” Kushch said. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/4/will-the-bucha-massacre-wake-up-the-world The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Saturday, September 10, 2022 3:08 PM
Saturday, September 10, 2022 5:40 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Quote:Originally posted by second: How many Russian soldiers have been killed in Ukraine? What we know, how we know it and what it really means. The estimates range from 1,351 and 43,000, but this much is clear: Russia has a manpower problem. As the 19th-century Prussian military theorist Carl von Clausewitz wrote, “Casualty reports on either side are never accurate, seldom truthful, and in most cases deliberately falsified.” The impact of all these casualties undeniably important, given that troop losses are likely to be a main determinant of the outcome. Too bad for Kiev they've lost 100,000 (conservative estimate) to 300,000 soldiers.
Quote:Originally posted by second: How many Russian soldiers have been killed in Ukraine? What we know, how we know it and what it really means. The estimates range from 1,351 and 43,000, but this much is clear: Russia has a manpower problem. As the 19th-century Prussian military theorist Carl von Clausewitz wrote, “Casualty reports on either side are never accurate, seldom truthful, and in most cases deliberately falsified.” The impact of all these casualties undeniably important, given that troop losses are likely to be a main determinant of the outcome.
Saturday, September 10, 2022 5:59 PM
Sunday, September 11, 2022 6:24 AM
Sunday, September 11, 2022 10:06 AM
Sunday, September 11, 2022 10:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Ukraine had better win this war in 59 days or they're fucked. Tick Tock
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Ukraine is a joke. I'm sure Russia is doing fine.
Sunday, September 11, 2022 5:08 PM
Sunday, September 11, 2022 6:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Apparently Russia and allied forces have decided to w/ draw from the Kharkiv region. So much for me being a military strategist! There must a lot of things I don't know about the specifics. Alexander Mercouris opined yesterday that they might w/draw from Izyum. Possibly the area is too forested and too easy to launch an attack/ too hard to defend/ not important enough to commit required troops. Perhaps they want to clear the Donbas first and put Kharkiv on the back burner until winter when trees will be bare and they can target bombs/ shells more easily. Or, again, it could be that the troops mostly committed tothe area - Luhansk irregulars- aren't as committed to Kharkiv. Hard to say. Here is a good discussion IMHO Alexander doesn't do his own military analysis but he IS particularly well-informed. He has many people contacting him and a wide circle of friends, acquaintances and contacts and he's pretty gootd at picking out what mades sense. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Sunday, September 11, 2022 6:35 PM
Sunday, September 11, 2022 9:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Comrade like all other Russians, you just can't speak the truth. It won't come out of your mouth.
Monday, September 12, 2022 2:20 PM
Monday, September 12, 2022 3:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Ukrainian troops retook a wide swath of territory from Russia on Monday, pushing all the way back to the northeastern border in some places, and claimed to have captured many Russian soldiers as part of a lightning advance that forced Moscow to make a hasty retreat. A spokesman for Ukrainian military intelligence said Russian troops were surrendering en masse as “they understand the hopelessness of their situation.” A Ukrainian presidential adviser said there were so many POWs that the country was running out of space to accommodate them. https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-kyiv-kharkiv-a691ab16016aab01cedb68ea5e247b37 The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote: Cold, Hunger and Darkness in Ukraine 'Not as Terrible' as Russia: Zelensky
Quote: Vengeful Putin blitzes Ukraine power stations plunging 9million into darkness
Monday, September 12, 2022 4:35 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: They don't tell little white lies, they tell Hilterian Josef Goebbels-sized lies. That you are stupid enough to repeat them just means you're as stupid as a faithful German Nazi.
Monday, September 12, 2022 4:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Quote:Originally posted by THG: Comrade like all other Russians, you just can't speak the truth. It won't come out of your mouth. The video isn't me, and he's not Russian
Monday, September 12, 2022 5:20 PM
Monday, September 12, 2022 6:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: They don't tell little white lies, they tell Hilterian Josef Goebbels-sized lies. That you are stupid enough to repeat them just means you're as stupid as a faithful German Nazi.The next year will reveal whether or not Putin is the Emperor With No Clothes and whether or not the Russian Army is naked and incompetent. Who knows? But Russia did an estimated $350 billion in damage to Ukraine. It would be only fair if Ukraine did equal damage to Russian real estate.
Monday, September 12, 2022 6:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: How? Kiev has few military planes, no long-range artillery and old, slow missiles left in it's arsenal and Russia has decent air defenses. Unless Kiev resorts to terror action. The Chechens tried it: it did not work well for them.
Monday, September 12, 2022 7:08 PM
Monday, September 12, 2022 7:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Sure thing, Z. Poke the bear. See what happens to you.
Monday, September 12, 2022 7:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: How? Kiev has few military planes, no long-range artillery and old, slow missiles left in it's arsenal and Russia has decent air defenses. Unless Kiev resorts to terror action. The Chechens tried it: it did not work well for them.If Ukraine can regain its old borders from 2014
Monday, September 12, 2022 8:23 PM
Monday, September 12, 2022 8:33 PM
Monday, September 12, 2022 9:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: How? Kiev has few military planes, no long-range artillery and old, slow missiles left in it's arsenal and Russia has decent air defenses. Unless Kiev resorts to terror action. The Chechens tried it: it did not work well for them.If Ukraine can regain its old borders from 2014 Hahahaha!!! Not gonna happen, muchacho!
Monday, September 12, 2022 9:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: When, THUGR?? WHEN?? Put your predictions on the line. Set a date. Next month? In six months? Stop being a weasel.
Monday, September 12, 2022 9:57 PM
Monday, September 12, 2022 11:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Sure thing, Z. Poke the bear. See what happens to you.Putin said Ukraine should be wiped from the face of the earth, so Putin can't be trusted to remain peaceful after this war has a ceasefire.
Tuesday, September 13, 2022 12:26 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Sure thing, Z. Poke the bear. See what happens to you.Putin said Ukraine should be wiped from the face of the earth, so Putin can't be trusted to remain peaceful after this war has a ceasefire. Oh yeah? Show me.
Tuesday, September 13, 2022 7:26 AM
Tuesday, September 13, 2022 8:49 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Kremlin anticipates operation to end soon, maybe within "days". https://www.rt.com/russia/553495-operation-ukraine-end-days-kremlin/ The only military onjective that is within "days" is the destruction of a large part of Ukraine's army in SE Ukraine. Meanwhile, I've been looking for General Gerasimov in the news, and he is nowhere to be found, indicationg a possible planning/military intelligence failure. (Based on human intel disinfo about the morale of the Ukie army and/or the "dug in" nature of Ukie positions). I have no doubt that Russia could "win" the entire Ukraine, but what would "winning" look like? If Mariupol is any indication it would require Russian army losses, the destruction of alot of civilian infrastructure (which Russia would be responsible for fixing) and overseeing a resentful people. Cost v reward doesn't pencil out. I think Russia will aim for achieving most of its goals by splitting off SE and coastal Ukraine and negotiating neutrality from "rump" Ukraine. Being practical. Meanwhile, if Russia's other goals in this hybrid war were to expose the west's hatred of Russia and Russians and solidify the Russian populatin expose the risky nature of dollar-denominated assets split the world and commit China to the Russian side fully divorce Russia's economy and finances from the west I'd say ... job well done.
Tuesday, September 13, 2022 9:20 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Kremlin anticipates operation to end soon, maybe within "days". https://www.rt.com/russia/553495-operation-ukraine-end-days-kremlin/ Poor signym, her lies are being exposed in real time. T
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Kremlin anticipates operation to end soon, maybe within "days". https://www.rt.com/russia/553495-operation-ukraine-end-days-kremlin/
Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:33 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I see SECOND is jonesing for war, again. Hey, SECOND, why don't YOU go to Kiev and help them out? You could help direct their war effort/relay orders from USA neocons. Or better yet, go to the front lines and show 'em how it's done.
Tuesday, September 13, 2022 11:26 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Tuesday, September 13, 2022 11:29 AM
Tuesday, September 13, 2022 11:56 AM
Wednesday, September 14, 2022 7:02 AM
Wednesday, September 14, 2022 10:28 AM
JAYNEZTOWN
Wednesday, September 14, 2022 1:57 PM
Wednesday, September 14, 2022 2:01 PM
Wednesday, September 14, 2022 2:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Russia’s inevitable defeat, deep economic malaise, and loss of great-power status at the hands of a country whose existence the Kremlin didn’t even recognize will be fertile ground for extremists. That counts double should Putin’s regime fall and a struggle for the future course of Russia ensue. If the pro-war nationalists searching for enemies to blame are the only opposition left in Russia, the world may be going down a dark and dangerous track.
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