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Originally posted by second:
How many Russian soldiers have been killed in Ukraine? What we know, how we know it and what it really means.

The estimates range from 1,351 and 43,000, but this much is clear: Russia has a manpower problem.

As the 19th-century Prussian military theorist Carl von Clausewitz wrote, “Casualty reports on either side are never accurate, seldom truthful, and in most cases deliberately falsified.”

The impact of all these casualties undeniably important, given that troop losses are likely to be a main determinant of the outcome.

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Originally posted by SignyM:

Too bad for Kiev they've lost 100,000 (conservative estimate) to 300,000 soldiers.

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Originally posted by THG:
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How Belarusians are fighting Putin in their country and in Ukraine

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Why on earth do you care so much, Ted?

You got stock in Ukraine oil or something?

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Wow. If that doesn't sound like a propaganda piece.


How about we stop calling this the war against Ukraine and call it what it really is.


It's NATO's war against Russia.

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Wow. If that doesn't sound like a propaganda piece.


How about we stop calling this the war against Ukraine and call it what it really is.


It's NATO's war against Russia.

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If it was NATO fighting Russia, then for every $750 billion in real estate damage Russia does to Ukraine, NATO would do $750 billion in damage to St. Petersburg. There wouldn't be a power plant left operating anywhere in Russia west of the Ural mountains because NATO bombed the generators. Millions of Russian refugees would be fleeing toward Siberia. That is what an actual war between NATO and Russia would be.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Germany warns the same. They claim that Russia uses energy as a weapon, conveniently bypassing the fact that THEY cut themselves off from Russian gas and oil by ending Nord Stream II, sanctioning Russian oil, holding up a gas turbine, Ukraine ending gas flows to Europe, and not paying for gas delivered.

Jeez.

But the EU population has been conditioned to bow their heads to "the authorities". Just look at how they were made to tolerate unrealistic immigration programs and Covid responses. So I think this will go on for a while until reality breaks thru their conditioning.



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. . . holding up a gas turbine . . .

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Europe’s Russia problem

The prevailing mood of denial in Europe has allowed Russian society to wholeheartedly embrace .. blah blah blah ... blah blah blah...

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In parallel, The Lords of (Proxy) War will continue with their own strategy, which is to pillage an enfeebled, fearful, Europe, then dressing it up as a perfumed colony to be ruthlessly exploited ad nauseam by the imperial oligarchy.

Europe is now a runaway TGV – minus the requisite Hollywood production values. Assuming it does not veer off track – a dicey proposition – it may eventually arrive at a railway station called Agenda 2030, The Great Narrative, or some other NATO/Davos denomination du jour.

As it stands, what’s remarkable is how the “marginal” Russian economy hardly broke a sweat to “end the abundance” of the wealthiest region on the planet.

Moscow does not even entertain the notion of negotiating with Brussels because there’s nothing to negotiate – considering puny Eurocrats will only be hurled away from their zombified state when the dire socio-economic consequences of “the end of abundance” will finally translate into peasants with pitchforks roaming the continent.

t may be eons away, but inevitably the average Italian, German or Frenchman will connect the dots and realize it is their own “leaders” – national nullities and mostly unelected Eurocrats – who are paving their road to poverty.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

In fact, I gave up about one para in.

Astonish us, SECOND. Instead of putting words in the EU's and Russia's mouths, why don't you report what they ACTUALLY say?

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Nobody cares.

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The Director of Russia’s National Guard has begun a campaign to reassure Russian President Vladimir Putin that Ukrainians are supportive of Russia seizing territory in Ukraine when the reality couldn’t be further off.

“I would like to emphasize that we can feel that the population of the liberated areas is supporting us. They realize that we are defending their right to a peaceful life and their children’s happiness,” the director, Viktor Zolotov, told Putin, according to the Kremlin.

In a video of the exchange, Putin looks visibly troubled and concerned, gripping the table, while Zolotov shares his thoughts.

Zolotov’s efforts to feed Putin a narrative that Ukrainians want Russia to be capturing territory in Ukraine come just as two U.S. officials told The Daily Beast that the Biden administration has concerns that Russia may be preparing to run sham referenda in seized territories in Ukraine, in order to make it appear like Ukraine supports Russia’s invasion. Russia also ran a sham referendum, which the United States and other allies have repeatedly declared is invalid, in Crimea following Russia’s takeover of the Ukrainian peninsula in 2014.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/top-russian-general-viktor-zolotov-lies-
to-vladimir-putin-about-ukraine-war-in-awkward-briefing

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Nobody cares.

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Putin cares and kills opponents to his War

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Originally posted by SignyM:

AFA Ukraine is concerned, the western press is trying to disappear the deep split in Ukrainian people, which was evidenced by the Yanukovich vote and the formation of eastern militias immediately following the 2014 coup. Militias which are still fighting today.

It's disingenuous to speak of Ukrianians as if they're monolithic and have a single opinion. They're not, and they don't. Western press is trying to discredit the referendum votes ahead of time, which means they believe the vote will swing to Russia.

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HRW and SECOND: both disinformation trolls.

But thanks for the wall of gibberish!

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Researchers at Yale University say they have uncovered 21 "filtration" sites in the Russian-controlled territory of Donetsk in eastern Ukraine.

The researchers say these sites are used by Russian forces and their allies to process, register, interrogate and detain Ukrainians trying to leave Russian-occupied territory. Those detained can include civilians and prisoners of war.

The Yale School of Public Health's Humanitarian Research Lab (Yale HRL) in collaboration with US State Department-supported Conflict Observatory used open-source information and high-resolution satellite imagery to map them.

According to the report, there is evidence suggesting they were set up even before Russia's invasion of Ukraine began and grew following the capture of Mariupol in April.

"The conditions reported by those released from the facilities examined here can constitute cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment under international humanitarian and human rights law," the study says, adding that the "conditions include overcrowded facilities, a lack of access to adequate sanitation, insufficient food and clean water, exposure to the elements, denial of medical care, and the use of isolation."

"In some specific instances, the treatment described as having been endured by those released, such as use of electric shocks, extreme conditions of isolation, and physical assault, may potentially constitute torture if proven," the study says.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/26/europe/ukraine-filtration-camps-russian
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Ukraine’s Western Backed Gamble To Capture Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant Backfires
1 September 2022 by Larry Johnson 68 Comments

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Fuck NATO.

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Ukraine’s Western Backed Gamble To Capture Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant Backfires
1 September 2022 by Larry Johnson 68 Comments

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The original is at https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/09/ukraines-western-backed-gambl
e-capture-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-power-plant-backfire/

Signym, too bad this "Larry Johnson" doesn't exist. A rotating staff of Russian propagandists wrote every word from "Larry Johnson".

The Gateway Pundit (TGP) is an American far-right fake news website. The website is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy theories.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gateway_Pundit

thegatewaypundit. com
A far-right political website that publishes false and misleading content. The Gateway Pundit regularly distorts information and occasionally spreads conspiracy theories.
https://www.newsguardtech.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/The-Gateway-P
undit-NewsGuard-Nutrition-Label.pdf

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Unlike you, SECOND, Larry Johnson actually exists.

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Fuck NATO.

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NATO's purpose was to prevent Russia from repeating its 1945 invasion of Central and Eastern Europe.

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Well, lest The Event that is Ukraine sinks below the horizon

Ukraine's Top General Doesn't Rule Out "Limited" Nuclear War

Ukraine’s top military chief has warned that Russia could unleash nukes if its army is against the ropes in Ukraine. The comments were issued Wednesday amid an ongoing Ukrainian counteroffensive in the south and east which both Kiev and Washington say has so far had "success".

Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces Gen. Valery Zaluzhny stated "There is a direct threat of the use, under certain circumstances, of tactical nuclear weapons by the Russian armed forces." He wrote this in an op-ed published by state run outlet Ukrinform, with the alarming words being picked up by The Washington Post and others.

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I see Ukraine's blazing hot sun of attention is setting. It seems TPTB have created such a distractible mob they can't even focus attention on "crisis" like ng enough to fulfill their goals (whatever they are).

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I see Ukraine's blazing hot sun of attention is setting. It seems TPTB have created such a distractible mob they can't even focus attention on "crisis" like ng enough to fulfill their goals (whatever they are).

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They NEVER really cared.

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Shut up, meat popsicle.

Your time is over.

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