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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Wednesday, August 3, 2022 6:04 PM
SECOND
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Wednesday, August 3, 2022 6:50 PM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Wednesday, August 3, 2022 7:24 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Wednesday, August 3, 2022 8:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Nobody cares.
Wednesday, August 3, 2022 11:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Nobody cares.You are a Nobody.
Thursday, August 4, 2022 3:02 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote: 6IXSTRINGJACK: Nobody cares. SECOND: You are a Nobody.
Thursday, August 4, 2022 3:04 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: He sure doesn't know Ukrainians very well. All the pencil pushers and forms and bombs will never make Ukrainians *accept* being Russian.
Thursday, August 4, 2022 6:40 AM
THG
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: He sure doesn't know Ukrainians very well. All the pencil pushers and forms and bombs will never make Ukrainians *accept* being Russian. YOU don't know Ukrainians vey well. I posted right at the beginning of this ... 2014-ish or so ... that a significant minority (appx 30-35%) of Ukrainians speak Russian and don't want to *accept* being "Ukrainian".
Thursday, August 4, 2022 6:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: 6IXSTRINGJACK: Nobody cares. SECOND: You are a Nobody. Does it seem to you that SECOND is posting more personal potshots at us?
Thursday, August 4, 2022 8:49 AM
Quote:"In principle, it is useful for Iran and Turkey to keep the Russian president in exile in reserve, using him, depending on the situation, as a lever or as a bargaining chip," the Telegram channel noted. Although Turkey is a member of the Western military alliance, under the leadership of Erdogan, the country has cut its own diplomatic path in international relations. Earlier this month, Putin met with his Turkish and Iranian counterparts in Tehran, ostensibly to discuss Syria. It is not too much of a stretch to imagine that Erdogan and Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi privately discussed the possibility of Putin seeking asylum in the event of a coup or pro-revolutionary demonstrations in Moscow.
Thursday, August 4, 2022 11:14 AM
Thursday, August 4, 2022 12:57 PM
Quote: 6IXSTRINGJACK: Nobody cares. SECOND: You are a Nobody. SIGNY: Does it seem to you that SECOND is posting more personal potshots at us? SECOND... TRUMP! blah blah blah .... Trump blah blah blah... Signym said there is no law requiring Trump to prove he hasn't cheated on his income taxes.
Quote: SEOND: Until there is "proof" (a word Signym uses far too often)...
Quote: SECOND: there is no "logical" (another word Signym uses too often) to condemn Trump ...
Quote: SECOND: Using much the same thinking, neither 6ix nor Signym are concerned about Russians murdering Ukrainians
Quote: SECOND: ...destroying Ukrainian real estate because there is no "proof" that Russians will go on to nuke the world if NATO interferes with the murdering done by Russians nor "proof" that "logically" Russians are committing war crimes.
Quote:SECOND: It is all hearsay and lies from biased mainstream media,
Thursday, August 4, 2022 1:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: WRONG. Citizens have to submit their information TO THE IRS. TRUMP has to submit his info TO THE IRS. He's done that. There is no law requiring that Trump show US his tax info. The only people who need to see his tax info ALREADY HAVE IT and that is THE IRS.
Thursday, August 4, 2022 4:58 PM
Quote:SIGNYM: WRONG. Citizens have to submit their information TO THE IRS. TRUMP has to submit his info TO THE IRS. He's done that. There is no law requiring that Trump show US his tax info. The only people who need to see his tax info ALREADY HAVE IT and that is THE IRS.[ SECOND: You have truly revealed that you don't care that Trump didn't pay his taxes. The IRS has revealed that $1 trillion in taxes aren't collected from the wealthy each year. That's Trump.
Quote:Other rich people's tax returns are published, revealing that they paid $billions
Thursday, August 4, 2022 5:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: YOU don't know Ukrainians vey well. I posted right at the beginning of this ... 2014-ish or so ... that a significant minority (appx 30-35%) of Ukrainians speak Russian and don't want to *accept* being "Ukrainian".
Thursday, August 4, 2022 5:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: YOU don't know Ukrainians vey well. I posted right at the beginning of this ... 2014-ish or so ... that a significant minority (appx 30-35%) of Ukrainians speak Russian and don't want to *accept* being "Ukrainian". Cites? Putin's daughter doesn't count.
Thursday, August 4, 2022 6:02 PM
Thursday, August 4, 2022 8:18 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: I provided cites back then, dimwit.
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: That's when Yanukovich was elected. There was a region-by-region breakdown of who voted for whom, and its correlation to the Russian-speaking population.
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Sorry if facts just slip out of your brain. But that's your problem. I don't intend to make it mine.
Thursday, August 4, 2022 8:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Sorry if facts just slip out of your brain. But that's your problem. I don't intend to make it mine. Huh?
Friday, August 5, 2022 6:32 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Quote:Other rich people's tax returns are published, revealing that they paid $billions Really? Whose? Zuckerberg's? Gates'? Bezos'? Buffet's? Name some.
Friday, August 5, 2022 6:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Yanno... Common Leftoid pink haired potbelly vampire goblin tactic.
Friday, August 5, 2022 10:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Yanno... Common Leftoid pink haired potbelly vampire goblin tactic. What?
Friday, August 5, 2022 12:50 PM
Quote:SECOND: ]Other rich people's tax returns are published, revealing that they paid $billions SIGNY: Really? Whose? Zuckerberg's? Gates'? Bezos'? Buffet's? Name some. SECOND: THE SECRET IRS FILES at ProPublica Inside the Tax Records of the .001% https://www.propublica.org/series/the-secret-irs-files
Quote: ProPublica has obtained a vast cache of IRS information showing how billionaires like Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk and Warren Buffett pay little in income tax compared to their massive wealth — sometimes, even nothing.
Quote: In 2007, Jeff Bezos, then a multibillionaire and now the world’s richest man, did not pay a penny in federal income taxes. He achieved the feat again in 2011. In 2018, Tesla founder Elon Musk, the second-richest person in the world, also paid no federal income taxes. Michael Bloomberg managed to do the same in recent years. Billionaire investor Carl Icahn did it twice. George Soros paid no federal income tax three years in a row.
Friday, August 5, 2022 1:47 PM
Quote: Anger From Ukraine's Backers After Damning Amnesty Report Spotlights 'Human Shields' Friday, Aug 05, 2022 - 02:45 AM Amnesty International has in a surprise shift placed its human rights scrutiny on Ukraine in a fresh report released Thursday. It immediately sparked a firestorm of criticism as both Western pundits and Kiev officials themselves blasted the findings as "unfair". The Amnesty report said investigators had "found evidence of Ukrainian forces launching strikes from within populated residential areas, as well as basing themselves in civilian buildings in 19 towns and villages" in three war-torn regions of the country from April through July.
Quote:Ukraine: military endangering civilians by locating forces in residential areas - new research
Friday, August 5, 2022 7:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:SECOND: ]Other rich people's tax returns are published, revealing that they paid $billions SIGNY: Really? Whose? Zuckerberg's? Gates'? Bezos'? Buffet's? Name some. SECOND: THE SECRET IRS FILES at ProPublica Inside the Tax Records of the .001% https://www.propublica.org/series/the-secret-irs-files Yanno, that's funny SECOND because YOUR LINK says otherwise, right below the title Quote: ProPublica has obtained a vast cache of IRS information showing how billionaires like Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk and Warren Buffett pay little in income tax compared to their massive wealth — sometimes, even nothing. and it contiunes Quote: In 2007, Jeff Bezos, then a multibillionaire and now the world’s richest man, did not pay a penny in federal income taxes. He achieved the feat again in 2011. In 2018, Tesla founder Elon Musk, the second-richest person in the world, also paid no federal income taxes. Michael Bloomberg managed to do the same in recent years. Billionaire investor Carl Icahn did it twice. George Soros paid no federal income tax three years in a row.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I didn't go any further intoyour post, bc if you lied in your first post and doubled down in your second post, why should I bother reading more? ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Friday, August 5, 2022 8:16 PM
Friday, August 5, 2022 9:02 PM
Quote:SECOND: Other rich people's tax returns are published, revealing that they paid $billions SIGNY: Really? Whose? Zuckerberg's? Gates'? Bezos'? Buffet's? Name some. SECOND: THE SECRET IRS FILES at ProPublica Inside the Tax Records of the .001% https://www.propublica.org/series/the-secret-irs-files SIGNY: Yanno, that's funny SECOND because YOUR LINK says otherwise, right below the title Quote: ProPublica has obtained a vast cache of IRS information showing how billionaires like Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk and Warren Buffett pay little in income tax compared to their massive wealth — sometimes, even nothing. and it continues Quote: In 2007, Jeff Bezos, then a multibillionaire and now the world’s richest man, did not pay a penny in federal income taxes. He achieved the feat again in 2011. In 2018, Tesla founder Elon Musk, the second-richest person in the world, also paid no federal income taxes. Michael Bloomberg managed to do the same in recent years. Billionaire investor Carl Icahn did it twice. George Soros paid no federal income tax three years in a row. SECOND: The deal is that Trump paid over two decades a total of only a few thousand dollars. In two recent years (2016, 2017) he only paid $750, but his entire tax returns for two decades are mysterious ...
Quote: In 2007, Jeff Bezos, then a multibillionaire and now the world’s richest man, did not pay a penny in federal income taxes. He achieved the feat again in 2011. In 2018, Tesla founder Elon Musk, the second-richest person in the world, also paid no federal income taxes. Michael Bloomberg managed to do the same in recent years. Billionaire investor Carl Icahn did it twice. George Soros paid no federal income tax three years in a row. SECOND: The deal is that Trump paid over two decades a total of only a few thousand dollars. In two recent years (2016, 2017) he only paid $750, but his entire tax returns for two decades are mysterious ...
Quote:... only the total he paid in a few recent years. Bezos had low to no tax years, too, but he has paid $billions
Quote: Consider Bezos’ 2007, one of the years he paid zero in federal income taxes. Amazon’s stock more than doubled. Bezos’ fortune leapt $3.8 billion, according to Forbes, whose wealth estimates are widely cited. How did a person enjoying that sort of wealth explosion end up paying no income tax? Total [not income, total] Taxes Paid: $973M (0.98% of wealth) In that year, Bezos, who filed his taxes jointly with his then-wife, MacKenzie Scott, reported a paltry (for him) $46 million in income, largely from interest and dividend payments on outside investments. He was able to offset every penny he earned with losses from side investments and various deductions, like interest expenses on debts and the vague catchall category of “other expenses.” In 2011, a year in which his wealth held roughly steady at $18 billion, Bezos filed a tax return reporting he lost money — his income that year was more than offset by investment losses. What’s more, because, according to the tax law, he made so little, [u[]he even claimed and received a $4,000 tax credit for his children. His tax avoidance is even more striking if you examine 2006 to 2018, a period for which ProPublica has complete data. Bezos’ wealth increased by $127 billion, according to Forbes, but he reported a total of $6.5 billion in income. The $1.4 billion he paid in personal federal taxes is a massive number — yet it amounts to a 1.1% true tax rate on the rise in his fortune.
Quote: No one among the 25 wealthiest avoided as much tax as Buffett, the grandfatherly centibillionaire. That’s perhaps surprising, given his public stance as an advocate of higher taxes for the rich. According to Forbes, his riches rose $24.3 billion between 2014 and 2018. Over those years, the data shows, Buffett reported paying $23.7 million in taxes. $23.7M (0.10% of wealth)
Quote: SECOND: while Trump, over the same years paid only $thousands and his tax forms remain invisible.
Quote: SECOND: Putin has the same setup as Trump
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I didn't go any further into your post, bc if you lied in your first post and doubled down in your second post, why should I bother reading more? SECOND: Now I finally understand what is going on with you, Signym. I read an article on taxes and, because I'm an engineer, I understand it the way an accountant or engineer understands it.
Friday, August 5, 2022 9:16 PM
Saturday, August 6, 2022 12:28 AM
Quote: Jake Sullivan, the US National Security Advisor, stated on Friday that Washington was concerned about President Vladimir Zelensky’s safety. Sullivan stated that Zelensky’s security is being supported by the US. “President Zelensky’s personal safety is something that concerns us,”Sullivan spoke at the Aspen Security Forum, Colorado. “This is a leader in wartime, dealing with an enemy in Russia that is ruthless, brutal and capable of just about anything.”
Saturday, August 6, 2022 6:40 AM
Saturday, August 6, 2022 8:48 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Yanno... Common Leftoid pink haired potbelly vampire goblin tactic. What? It's the booze G. T
Saturday, August 6, 2022 10:06 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Yanno... Common Leftoid pink haired potbelly vampire goblin tactic. What? It's the booze G. T
Saturday, August 6, 2022 9:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Meanwhile, in reality... The median rent costs $2000 a month; Median mortgage $1,200 (We'll split the difference and call that $1,600 I'm not paying), Median car payment $700, $140 car insurance (we'll call it $127 a month I'm not paying since I do pay $125 every six months for liability), $110 average monthly credit card payment, Average student debt payment $393, Average cell phone bill $114, Average cable bill $217 (We'll call it $197 since I only pay for internet and I got them down to $20 per month). I'm sure I'm missing other things that I'm not paying for. I certainly haven't even added gasoline to this list, of which I hardly pay for at all either. That's okay... I already have enough to illustrate my point at $3,241 per month worth of bills I don't have. Well... not MISSING them. There's 251 working days in the US in a year (if you include holidays, which I will even though the only jobs I've had in the last 13 years didn't). 251 / 12 is roughly 20.92. We'll just call it 21 working days in a month. $3,241 / 21 = $270.01 Yup. I'm going to make $270.01 today, tax free, simply by not being a wage slave. Do the math yourself to figure out how much income that would be in a year and you'll get a number higher than I've ever made in a single year in my life, before taxes... And I can imagine most Americans can say the same thing, which is why we need two adults working in most households and they still rack up credit card debt to "pay" for everything. I'm going to go wrap up the electric in my garage and clean it all up. I've got to have a spot to put the brand new shiny shed door that I bought with cash to sit until my friend's dad comes over to pay off some of the favors he owes me and we get it installed. Have fun today at work to pay off all that shit you bought that you don't need for anything other than to impress your rich Democrat "friends", honey. "Yup. I'm going to make $270.01 today, tax free, simply by not being a wage slave." Hilarious. No, you're not going to make it. Go ahead, take that money that you "made" and buy something with it. Get some gas and tell the attendant the same story. "Look here buddy, I made $270 dollars today by not being a wage slave, so have some for the gas I just put in my car." Here, let me make you even richer: think of all the money you "made" by not having a wife and kids. Not having to pay for college, no weddings, no clothes or food. No divorce proceedings (just in case), no vacations, no dining out, no bigger house, no second car, on and on. You add it all up and you might be the richest person in your county.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Meanwhile, in reality... The median rent costs $2000 a month; Median mortgage $1,200 (We'll split the difference and call that $1,600 I'm not paying), Median car payment $700, $140 car insurance (we'll call it $127 a month I'm not paying since I do pay $125 every six months for liability), $110 average monthly credit card payment, Average student debt payment $393, Average cell phone bill $114, Average cable bill $217 (We'll call it $197 since I only pay for internet and I got them down to $20 per month). I'm sure I'm missing other things that I'm not paying for. I certainly haven't even added gasoline to this list, of which I hardly pay for at all either. That's okay... I already have enough to illustrate my point at $3,241 per month worth of bills I don't have. Well... not MISSING them. There's 251 working days in the US in a year (if you include holidays, which I will even though the only jobs I've had in the last 13 years didn't). 251 / 12 is roughly 20.92. We'll just call it 21 working days in a month. $3,241 / 21 = $270.01 Yup. I'm going to make $270.01 today, tax free, simply by not being a wage slave. Do the math yourself to figure out how much income that would be in a year and you'll get a number higher than I've ever made in a single year in my life, before taxes... And I can imagine most Americans can say the same thing, which is why we need two adults working in most households and they still rack up credit card debt to "pay" for everything. I'm going to go wrap up the electric in my garage and clean it all up. I've got to have a spot to put the brand new shiny shed door that I bought with cash to sit until my friend's dad comes over to pay off some of the favors he owes me and we get it installed. Have fun today at work to pay off all that shit you bought that you don't need for anything other than to impress your rich Democrat "friends", honey.
Saturday, August 6, 2022 10:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: SECOND is simply dragging a red herring across the trail (to mix metaphors) to distract from UKRAINE GUILTY OF USING HUMAN SHIELDS Now, here's another interesting development National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan claims that Russia is “capable of just about anything” Quote: Jake Sullivan, the US National Security Advisor, stated on Friday that Washington was concerned about President Vladimir Zelensky’s safety. Sullivan stated that Zelensky’s security is being supported by the US. “President Zelensky’s personal safety is something that concerns us,”Sullivan spoke at the Aspen Security Forum, Colorado. “This is a leader in wartime, dealing with an enemy in Russia that is ruthless, brutal and capable of just about anything.” https://www.massnews.com/us-concerned-about-zelenskys-safety-analysis/ Since when did THAT become a topic of conversation? Since everything our State department says lately has been projection, are they planning on Z's timely demise, with Russia as the ready-made excuse? Is Z to be thrown under the bus? ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Sunday, August 7, 2022 4:58 AM
Sunday, August 7, 2022 6:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: The first two pages of Zerohedge had NOTHING about Ukraine, and since they're a news aggregator that looks for click bait, that tells me there's no juicy headlines in the M$M, or anywhere else about Ukraine. Maybe it's bc the front line is static right now: the Russians are consolidating their gains (de-mining, getting rid of unexploded ordnance, clearing tunnels, bunkers and trenches etc) and that Ukrainian offensive we've been hearing about since whenever (supposed to start tomorrow, rumor has it.) hasn't started yet. Or maybe they're just trying to memory-hole the whole topic and replace it with "CHINA!CHINA!" ?
Sunday, August 7, 2022 11:26 AM
Sunday, August 7, 2022 12:11 PM
Sunday, August 7, 2022 12:50 PM
Monday, August 8, 2022 10:34 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I can go right ahead and spend that money I made not paying for wage slave bullshit, because I'm not a wage slave and I have plenty of money that isn't being spent on wage slave bullshit. Interest and high monthly bills for consumables I don't need for sure, but yeah... including the expenses that come with a wife and kids since you mention it.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: "I just bought me a years worth of cereal on sale for $56, shipped free to my home, so I didn't even have to use any of the gas in the tank. 480oz of it, to be exact."
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: "Time is money, and I've turned making money work for you into an art form." Me? It's going to be really hot again tomorrow. I'll be napping.
Monday, August 8, 2022 1:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Nobody cares. -------------------------------------------------- Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
Monday, August 8, 2022 6:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I can go right ahead and spend that money I made not paying for wage slave bullshit, because I'm not a wage slave and I have plenty of money that isn't being spent on wage slave bullshit. Interest and high monthly bills for consumables I don't need for sure, but yeah... including the expenses that come with a wife and kids since you mention it. What a dummy. You couldn't afford those things in the first place, so no, you don't have that money to spend now. "I saved a bundle not buying that Rolex with money I don't have." fck Math
Quote:Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: "I just bought me a years worth of cereal on sale for $56, shipped free to my home, so I didn't even have to use any of the gas in the tank. 480oz of it, to be exact." Wow! You saved a bundle on cereal. GOALS!
Quote:And these next 2 lines together are some of the funniest sht I don't think you meant to post: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: "Time is money, and I've turned making money work for you into an art form." Me? It's going to be really hot again tomorrow. I'll be napping. Sleeping as an art form. One: You don't get the quote, and Mr. "Time is Money" is sleeping in because it's too hot. I hope your pillow is comfy enough for you, princess.
Monday, August 8, 2022 7:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: My daily cost of living expenses are about $12.25 right now. Don't lie. You spent more that that on lunch today, didn't you...
Monday, August 8, 2022 7:47 PM
Quote: CAPON: Fuck yeah I did. I'm not a broke,
Quote: CAPON: ...lazy ass
Quote: CAPON:... troll
Quote: CAPON: like you are.
Monday, August 8, 2022 7:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: My daily cost of living expenses are about $12.25 right now. Don't lie. You spent more that that on lunch today, didn't you... Fuck yeah I did. I'm not a broke, lazy ass troll like you are.
Quote:Money in the bank? Making what, 1/4 of a percent interest? And you're bragging about that? Lying or stupid - or both.
Monday, August 8, 2022 8:05 PM
Quote: CBS Censors Own Documentary After Ukraine Outraged Monday, Aug 08, 2022 - 08:25 PM CBS has censored its own documentary investigative reporting after an avalanche of pushback from supporters of Ukraine and its military. The segment highlighted that tons of weaponry shipped from the United States to the country's military has gone missing, and sounded the alarm as billions in dollars more have been pledged by the Biden administration. "CBS partially retracted a documentary in which it said that shipments of weapons to Ukraine from the US had been going missing," Insider reports Monday. "CBS tweeted on Monday that it had removed a video promoting the documentary that included a months-old quote saying most aid was not making it to Ukraine's front lines." Terrifying how swiftly and obediently the corporate media walks back facts that are undesirable for the regime. https://t.co/SqafRmOnr0 — Hans Mahncke (@HansMahncke) August 8, 2022 The segment, titled "Arming Ukraine" was published days ago, and follows on the heels of Pentagon and US intelligence officials issuing similar warnings that there are few mechanisms in place to legitimately track the arms flowing into the country. One admin official even described in April that, "we have fidelity for a short time, but when it enters the fog of war, we have almost zero. It [military aid] drops into a big black hole, and you have almost no sense of it at all after a short period of time." The fresh CBS reporting added to these concerns, quoting the the head of a Lithuania-based organization supplying the Ukrainian military, Jonas Ohman. Below is the deleted tweet, with the offending line of "30% of it [US-supplied arms and munitions] reaches its final destination." "All of this stuff goes across the border, and then something happens, kind of like 30% of it reaches its final destination." Ohman stressed that actually getting the weapons to the designated Ukrainian army units involves having to navigate an array of "power lords, oligarchs [and] political players." This also as there have been persistent reports that some weapons end up on the black market, or might possibly be moved outside Ukraine. Don’t worry, @CBSNews, I saved it. pic.twitter.com/jiJorgw18F — Viva Frei (@thevivafrei) August 8, 2022 A senior crisis adviser with Amnesty International also told CBS in the documentary, "What is really worrying is that some countries that are sending weapons do not seem to think that it is their responsibility to put in place a very robust oversight mechanism." Officials with the Ukrainian government promptly accused the mainstream US network of playing into "Russian propaganda".
Quote: Along with a widespread social media backlash from Kiev's supporters and pundits, this was apparently enough for CBS to announce it is "updating" the segment, with some of the offending lines now dropped... CBS claims this documentary is now "being updated" after it received a giant tsunami of trolling from those who were upset at the information being reported. The original link was taken down: pic.twitter.com/b04P5KlRC7 — Michael Tracey (@mtracey) August 8, 2022 The Ukrainian government further put out a dubious claim that "all received equipment is accounted for" - this despite months of Pentagon officials warning that this isn't the case. Unsurprisingly, Ukraine's Minister of Foreign Affairs, Dmytro Kuleba, has demanded that CBS News conduct an internal investigation to get to the bottom of things.
Quote: The Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, Dmytro Kuleba, demands from CBS News to conduct an internal investigation due to the publication of disinformation that only 30% of the weapons supplied to Ukraine by allies reach the front. 1/ operativnoZSU pic.twitter.com/LvPUp98oAo — Lynn Thigpen (@Lynski_07) August 8, 2022 There's of late been growing scrutiny placed on the Ukrainian side, after Russia and Putin have long been the main focus of Western mainstream media reporting. It appears that efforts to "police" western MSM reports to deflect any possible criticism of Kiev whatsoever during the war is now ramping up.
Monday, August 8, 2022 8:13 PM
Tuesday, August 9, 2022 7:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Oooh. Pity
Tuesday, August 9, 2022 5:32 PM
Tuesday, August 9, 2022 8:57 PM
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