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SignyM:
Here we have freedom of speech. Well, technically, anyway, altho don't ask the Jan 6 protesters!

CAPON: The fact that you know so little about the "protest" is telling.

htt p://youtu.be/Iludfj6Pe7w

"peacefully assemble?" No, violence with intent. Do I have to show the violence some of the Jan 6 Trump mob committed inside the capital?

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The most common charge pleaded guilty to: "illegally parading or demonstrating in the Capitol, a misdemeanor"

... many of those sentenced so far were only convicted of illegally entering the Capitol building, and were not involved in the more violent and destructive aspects related to storming the building.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
OTOH I don't put up with the lies, propaganda, bullying, bullshit, censorship, and rah-rah-ism here either.
Why do you?

CAPON: I can't stop you from typing what you type.

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CAPON: I can only challenge it, show the inconsistencies, lies, deflections and false claims and hope others recognize it for what it is. defame you, lie about what you've posted, bully you, lie about what happened, and in general behave like an asshole with an agenda.

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Thousands of cops were injured, over $2 billion in damage during Floyd riots. Where are the “congressional hearings”?

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Originally posted by THG: Comrade Signym refuses to acknowledge G, that Jan. 6th is about riots and a coup attempt, not protests. And let's not forget the obvious reasons why she refuses to admit this. She is Russian.

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I've always say it was a protest that SOME people turned into a riot.

But a "coup" attempt?
Without widely distributed guns; a plan to secure the capitol, police forces, and media; and an organization ready to take over the government?

You're still abyssmally stupid. When will you start using whatever neurons you have?

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Originally posted by THG: Comrade Signym refuses to acknowledge G, that Jan. 6th is about riots and a coup attempt, not protests. And let's not forget the obvious reasons why she refuses to admit this. She is Russian.

SIGNY: I've always say it was a protest that SOME people turned into a riot.
But a "coup" attempt?
Without widely distributed guns; a plan to secure the capitol, police forces, and media; and an organization ready to take over the government?

You're still abyssmally stupid. When will you start using whatever neurons you have?

SECOND: The cops only had to kill Ashli Babbitt and then the other Trumptards ran away.

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SECOND: But if the Trumptards hadn't run, the cops had enough bullets to kill them all.

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Ones bullet into Putin's chest would be enough to end the Ukrainian War. But if one bullet won't do, the Ukrainians have enough ammo to kill every Russian on the wrong side of the border.

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I've always say it was a protest that SOME people turned into a riot.

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Blah. Blah. Blah.

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]Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I've always say it was a protest that SOME people turned into a riot.


CC: More like a protest turned into a riot and then turned into a coup, although a coup was always the design from Trump. There were plenty of weapons, bombs even - crude but deadly.

"But a "coup" attempt?" - uh-huh.

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CC: "Without widely distributed guns" - they had them stock piled in VA and locally - read something.

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"a plan to secure the capitol" - that wouldn't stop a mob, especially with hostages - zip ties? What were they for??

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CC: "police forces" - how do you know? Crazy as fck Mike Flynn's brother was the deputy chief of staff of the Army, and the Army is reporting:
"The Army is now acknowledging that Lt. Gen. Charles Flynn, the brother of President Donald Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn, was in the room for one of the key January 6 phone calls in which DC government and US Capitol Police were asking for National Guard troops to quell the unfolding violence at the US Capitol."

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"and media" - They had The Internet.

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CC: Yanno Twitter, Facebook. Bigger and more focused and more immediate that the "media" I think you're talking about.

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"and an organization ready to take over the government?" - uh, Trump? The former president? Who knows what he was thinking, but the who knows what Jim Jones was thinking.

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SignyM: Blah. Blah. Blah.

SECOND: Special military operation" is okay, but never use the terms “invasion”, “attack” or “war”.

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SECOND: This is the same reasoning as declaring never use the term "insurrection" for the January 6th Insurrection.

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SECOND: And it is fact, not fantasy, that Putin acting alone

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SECOND: A successor to a very dead Putin would not continue Putin's fantasies of becoming Peter the Great.

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SECOND: What Russian successor to Putin would be so stupid as to continue a war that makes the Russian army look weak to glorify Putin's reputation in the history books?

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SECOND: Ukraine is making Russia look weak a third time. Russia better declare victory, then withdraw, as it did in two wars with Finland. Funny how Finland laid siege to Leningrad, resulting in the deaths of some one million of the city's civilians and Red Army defenders. After that, Russia was scared of Finland. Still is.

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Insurrection: noun

The act or an instance of open revolt against civil authority or a constituted government.A rising up; uprising.The act of rising against civil authority or governmental restraint; specifically, the armed resistance of a number of persons to the power of the state; incipient or limited rebellion.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
so, are you admitting that Finland was allied with the Nazis? And that Russia was not only fighting "Finland", it was also fighting Germany?

You must be fantasizing that Russia today is the same as Russia of 1939.

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I have to say, for such smart people you don't use your brains for anything useful.

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SignyM:
I have to say, for such smart people you don't use your brains for anything useful.

CAPON: You’re the Steve Bannon of this forum. Never at a loss for words but rarely ever right. You *try* desperately to convince us that every coup has the same punch list like some home remodeling project, blah blah bkah

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CC: And being such smart people we also see you trying to side track this thread. Almost like you hate threads that expose Russian murdering innocent civilians.

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SignyM:
so, are you admitting that Finland was allied with the Nazis? And that Russia was not only fighting "Finland", it was also fighting Germany?

You must be fantasizing that Russia today is the same as Russia of 1939.

SECIND: For one thing, Russia is a smaller country, with a weaker economy, than it was when called the Soviet Union.

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SECOND: And Russia is still frightened of Finland. Russia threatened Finland if it joined NATO. Finland joined NATO. When the Nazi were no longer useful to Finland for killing a million Russians in Stalingrad, Finland went to war with the Nazis. And won.

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. . . goddamn nonsense from Signym . . .

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So, you're going with the "Rusians are cannibals" trope, not "Germans are genocidal maniacs" trope.

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Originally posted by second:
Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, a known ally of Russian leader Vladimir Putin, warned on Tuesday that there could be a major global conflict on the horizon.

Lukashenko also echoed Putin's criticisms of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, or NATO, in particular the Russian leader's view of Sweden and Finland's decision to join the alliance.

"Apparently, the newly-minted 'crusaders' of the North Atlantic Alliance suddenly decided that the time is right for another 'Drang nach Osten', forgetting how similar campaigns ended for their historical predecessors," Lukashenko said, alleging that NATO's defensive military exercises are examples of a growing "strike force."

By "Drang nach Osten" — which means "spread to the east" in German — Lukashenko referenced to a term used by Nazi leader Adolf Hitler as part of his plan to acquire Slavic territory for German "living space" and the impetus for Nazi conflict in eastern Europe.

https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-ally-alexander-lukashenko-warns-
big-war-on-the-horizon-2022-7

Lukashenko talked about fighting Nazis in the Second World War and said: "The time has come for the forgetful Europe to give itself a moral cleansing."

"They — all who chose to forget — will have to look again at the grueling evidence of the bloody crimes of their own fathers and grandfathers," he said.

"I must admit that we were delicately silent. In our Slavic way, we believed that children were not responsible for their parents. We still think so."

He did not elaborate on what such a cleansing would entail. (Perhaps the cleansing fire of H-bombs? Putin has outright said he'll nuke the West if NATO troops rescue Ukraine from the Russians. Putin is really mentally stable, isn't he?)

https://www.businessinsider.com/belarus-lukashenko-europe-moral-cleans
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SECOND: Signym, you might have noticed a theme here: Russia accused of war crimes denies it committed war crimes, saying the Ukrainians did it, not Russia. Ha!

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CAPON: Dinosaurs or B-movie villains or both? Whatever, after the chest thumping all they're doing is telegraphing that NATO freaks them out.

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I thought we've already established that Russia did NOT shoot down MH17. Even the prosecutors aren't saying that Russians shot down MH17.

You keep forgetting what you previously posted bc you're untethered from reality. It must be scary, living in your free-form world of bullshit and lies, where nothing is what it seems and there is no truth to hang onto. HA!

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The suspects in the trial are Russians Oleg Pulatov, Igor Girkin and Sergei Dubinsky, and Ukrainian Leonid Kharchenko. Signym, you are a nut, aren't you?

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Every one of your posts...

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telegraphs that Russia freaks YOU out. Trumps freaks you out, too.

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I should list all of the bullshit that you and SECOND have insisted is real. Just, yanno, to recap all of your hysterical propaganda.

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But at least you've stopped insisting that Jan 6 was an attempted coup.

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
And "every one of your posts telegraphs that you're worried that want America [is] in decline and [that] Russia [is] in ascension."

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CC:Yep. Putin is one sick fcker.

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Z: YES, YOU ARE ABSOLUTEY RIGHT. I'M DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT AMERICA AND OUR FUTURE.
WE HAVE LOST OUR WAY AND NEED TO URGENTLY FIX OUR PROBLEMS, WHICH - BTW- DON'T INCLUDE UKRAINE.

CC: - Even with ALL CAPS No one believes you are "deeply concerned" about the US.

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CC: ... the fact that you follow that with "we've lost our way" only proves it. "Urgently?" How do you Urgently fix a global problem?

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Z: "I think Russia wants to be left alone."
CC: - So they started an unprovoked war??

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Z: "But even if Putin is a "sick fucker"... SO WHAT???"
CC:- So all those nukes and threats?

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Z: "Don't we have MORE IMPORTANT things to worry about besides a nation that is- according to you- so grossly imcompetent that it's about to implode?"
CC: - But you say they aren't so why aren't you more concerned? You logic has no logic.

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Z: "What about our border security?
Energy independence?
Debt load?
Wealth inequality?
Political and social corruption?
Every single one is an urgent problem of our own making that we can fix without spending a single dime on Ukraine, or the Uigyurs, or Kazakhstan or wherever-the-fuck."
CC: - You're right - we're not spending money on Ukraine to fix those things.

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Z: "They are truly independent."
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Z: They have the manufacturing capability, technology and resources that they can tell the rest of the world to go hang..."
CC: - Great, go hang Russia! They can recall their troops ...

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Z: "...and the military to defend it."
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Z: "We don't have quite the resource independence that they do. We've burned thru our easily-extracted oil, and we lack strategic metals like titanium. BUT we come pretty darn close. WE could be independent. INSTEAD, WE DECIDED TO BE THE WORLD'S TYRANT."
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CC:- Sooooo just like Ukraine?

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Z: "They have a balanced budget. Their currency means something. Their total debt load is far less than ours."
CC: - They have an artificially balanced budget, an artificially pimped emergency pull the red lever "clear!" stable currency, and no kidding, with an economy the size of Italy their debt load should be less than ours.

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Z: "...and every single one of my posts is about how AMERICA must get better."
CC: - Must? Like a threat if the US doesn't listen to you?

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Z: "Why do you keep obsessing about Russia for god's sake? Don't you have ENOUGH to pay attention to besides that?"
CC: And why do you keep obsessing about Russia for god's sake????

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First 3, no time or interest in the rest because you are clearly bat shit on top of bat shit crazy:

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Z: "You can't fix anything unless you recognize it's not working."
CC: - you're posting in this thread is not working.

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Z: "Oh, you mean I go around telling people what pronouns they must use, what opinions they can't express, that they should bend the knee or commit suicide, and how I would like to genocide the whole world "down to the last 100" ... You mean like that??. Hypocrite much?"
CC: - Hey granny, I've never told anyone anything about "pronouns, they should bend the knee or commit suicide, and how I would like to genocide the whole world "down to the last 100" - so wtf? Fcking crazy much?

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Z: "You STILL don't "get it", do you? WE CANT FIX WORLD PROBLEMS. Shit, how can we fix world problems when we can't fix our own??"
CC: - you said fix problems "urgently" not me. Take whatever you're on, double the prescription even.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You haven't addressed a single point because you can't.

I would understand if you disagreed with me, and told me WHY you disagreed with me. Maybe you would propose an alternate arguement, or have a different list of problems, or a different set of solutions. But all you can manage is name-calling?

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Hey, all I'm trying to do is discuss things. You OTOH are here with an agenda - to propagandize, bully, dismiss, and lie.

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Z: "Oh, you mean I go around telling people what pronouns they must use, what opinions they can't express, that they should bend the knee or commit suicide, and how I would like to genocide the whole world "down to the last 100" ... You mean like that??. Hypocrite much?"
CC: - Hey granny, I've never told anyone anything about "pronouns, they should bend the knee or commit suicide, and how I would like to genocide the whole world "down to the last 100" - so wtf? Fcking crazy much?

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Z: "You STILL don't "get it", do you? WE CANT FIX WORLD PROBLEMS. Shit, how can we fix world problems when we can't fix our own??"
CC: - you said fix problems "urgently" not me. Take whatever you're on, double the prescription even.

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You haven't addressed a single point because you can't.

I would understand if you disagreed with me, and told me WHY you disagreed with me. Maybe you would propose an alternate arguement, or have a different list of problems, or a different set of solutions. But all you can manage is name-calling?

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Z: "Oh, you mean I go around telling people what pronouns they must use, what opinions they can't express, that they should bend the knee or commit suicide, and how I would like to genocide the whole world "down to the last 100" ... You mean like that??. Hypocrite much?"
CC: - Hey granny, I've never told anyone anything about "pronouns, they should bend the knee or commit suicide, and how I would like to genocide the whole world "down to the last 100" - so wtf? Fcking crazy much?

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Z: "You STILL don't "get it", do you? WE CANT FIX WORLD PROBLEMS. Shit, how can we fix world problems when we can't fix our own??"
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You haven't addressed a single point because you can't.

I would understand if you disagreed with me, and told me WHY you disagreed with me. Maybe you would propose an alternate arguement, or have a different list of problems, or a different set of solutions. But all you can manage is name-calling?

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Karen thinks she is the only one who can fix the world's problems. And do it on this forum. Now that's pathetic.

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Meanwhile, he and SECOND are incapable of even discussing America's problems, bcause "America" is a concept they're trying to eliminate.

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If Democrats were 1/10th as concerned with the problems Americans face in 2022 as they were Ukranians, we wouldn't be seeing record inflation, violent crime and illegal immigration.

But here we are.

At least until November, when the Democrat party dies.

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SIGNYM:
HE'S the one obssessed with solving the world's problems. That idea is stuck in his brain like a cancer.

CC: Name any other "world's problems" I'm obsessed with trying to solve.

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CC: I post about Trump (less so now) and Putin. 2 of the most powerful and consequential and certainly most dangerous human beings of the last 50 years.

SIGNYM:
Meanwhile, he and SECOND are incapable of even discussing America's problems, bcause "America" is a concept they're trying to eliminate.

CC: No, it's "bcause" I am literally not trying to solve the world's problems.
Meanwhile, Karen:
"Don't we have MORE IMPORTANT things to worry about besides a nation that is- according to you- so grossly incompetent that it's about to implode?
What about our border security?
Energy independence?
Debt load?
Wealth inequality?
Political and social corruption?
Every single one is an urgent problem of our own making that we can fix without spending a single dime on Ukraine, or the Uigyurs, or Kazakhstan or wherever-the-fuck."

So you aren't trying to solve the world's problems? But you post that?

With her contradicting herself so frequently, the only conclusion is Ziggy's main purpose to post here is to agitate and foment disruption. Or be a non stop a-hole.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Five bucks says that the US did that. By proxy, of course, but it's all the same.

Got to keep those war drums banging when the people are tired of your fake war.

Otherwise Daddy Raytheon doesn't get paid and Mama Pelosi doesn't get her kickbacks.

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Five bucks says that the US did that. By proxy, of course, but it's all the same.
Got to keep those war drums banging when the people are tired of your fake war.
Otherwise Daddy Raytheon doesn't get paid and Mama Pelosi doesn't get her kickbacks.

SECOND: 6ix, Putin, Signym and you call truth lies. How then can you win your bet that the Pentagon, not Putin, killed Ukrainian civilians? One way is that the Russian missiles did not evaporate on impact. The missile left jagged metal pieces identifying it as made in Russia, but when all truth is a lie, 6ix could claim the missile was stolen from Russia by the Pentagon, therefore 6ix wins his bet that it is the Pentagon, not Putin, killing civilians.

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Similar things have happened in Syria, you know. In one infamous "Assad gassed his own people" episode, the field OPCW investigators looked at the condition and position of a chlorine cylinder and concluded that the cylinder had been "placed" on the bed. (bc if it really had fallen thru the ceiling it would have broken the bed). In other words, it was "staged" by people at the scene.

The technical report was rewritten by an OPCW higher-up to say the opposite. It wasn't until a whistleblower came forward a few years later that the malicious OPCW report was exposed.

And then there was another "Assad gassed his own people" episode where a rocket fin was placed specifically in the frame to implicate the Syrian government, amplified by the (in)famous Bellingcat.

Another "Assad gassed his own people" where the same children's bodies were spotted (by a sharp-eyed nun who worked in Syria) in different positions and locations to amplify the public body count.

And, hey, what about the half-dozen scenarios of the Skripal poisoning, none of which made sense (it was the doorknob! No, it was the clothing!) or could account for the when, where and how ... HOW they could have gotten so far from home before being overcome? Or even the so-called Navalny poisoning.

And what about the snipers on the Maidan?

Or even TRUMP!RUSSIA!COLLUSION! in which file metadata points to files being loaded locally onto a thumb drive, not "hacked" via the internet.

You think our CIA doesn't stoop to false flags and provocations?

You think Russia would get a fair hearing in any western agency?

I HATE LIES. And you, SECOND, are a clumsy, twisted, confused liar who doesn't know when to stop lying.

It's a bad habit you have there. It must make things really noisy inside your head, with dozens of voices all telling different stories. You should try to break bad habit; it's worse than smoking.

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I HATE LIES. And you, SECOND, are a clumsy, twisted, confused liar who doesn't know when to stop lying.

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It's a bad habit you have there. It must make things really noisy inside your head, with dozens of voices all telling different stories. You should try to break bad habit; it's worse than smoking.

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Ukraine Is Bringing a Big Gun to a Knife Fight

But U.S. and European multiple launch rockets alone aren’t enough to put Ukraine on the front foot for a counteroffensive.

With eight American HIMARS now in Ukrainian hands and four more expected to get into the country by the end of July, the defenders are racking up a major cost in Russian ammunition, supplies, and likely lives. Ukrainian troops knocked out 14 ammunition dumps in June, according to a tally by the BBC’s Russian service ( https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-62086287 ), many of them behind Russian lines in the Donbas, using the new weapons and another four tank-mounted rocket launchers from Britain. (More are on the way from Germany and Norway too.) The explosions have spawned a cottage industry of pro-Ukrainian memes featuring Japanese Shiba dogs in military fatigues watching the blasts, and the Ukrainian military believes that at least one Russian general has been killed in the blasts.

Russia has used cannons to batter its enemies from afar for three centuries, and officials knew that the U.S.-made precision missiles were coming for months, even sending a formal diplomatic letter to the U.S. State Department in April to try and warn off the Biden administration. There’s a reason that the Kremlin was nervous. The truck-mounted system weighs nearly 18 tons and can fire six precision-guided missiles at a time and then can quickly skedaddle, cutting into Moscow’s firepower advantage in massed artillery that is about 3-1 in the Donbas region.

Yet Russia still left itself open to a counterpunch. Early in the war, it left long, vulnerable supply convoys that were ravaged by Ukrainian sneak attacks during the Kyiv offensive. Now, they’re facing the same sort of ambush from afar, while the vaunted S-400 air defense systems Russia brought into Ukraine have been helpless against the low-altitude threat.

“It’s clear that they were not preparing to deal with this,” said Rob Lee, a fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute who previously served in the U.S. Marine Corps. “It’s been no secret that the Ukrainians have been asking for HIMARS for a while; it was no secret that when they got HIMARS, they were coming; and it’s no secret what the capabilities of HIMARS are. What steps did Russia take to adapt? It doesn’t look like they took many steps at all.”

The U.S. Defense Department and other U.S. agencies fed HIMARS into Ukraine slowly, officials said, waiting to test Kyiv’s aptitude on the system, reflected by Germany and Britain, which handed off multiple launch rockets mounted on Bradley tank frames four at a time. But U.S. and European officials have been impressed, they said, by Ukraine’s systematic selection of targets, interdicting Russian supplies and attacking command posts in a bid to grind the Kremlin’s war effort to a near-complete halt. The goal, one Ukrainian military official said, is to destroy all Russian storage facilities on Ukrainian soil, picking off targets about five miles behind enemy lines.

“What you see is the Ukrainians … actually systematically selecting targets and then accurately hitting them, thus providing this precise method of degrading Russian capability,” a senior U.S. defense official told reporters this month. The Ukrainian military official told Foreign Policy on Tuesday that Russia has responded by pulling back command posts, but because of the Kremlin’s top-down military planning and refusal to delegate command further down the ranks, it lacks the nimbleness in its logistics to disperse military supplies as Ukrainian defenders have done.

But Ukrainian officials said the weapons are not yet enough to put them on the front foot for a counteroffensive, which Kyiv had hoped to begin mounting by August. (Western officials more conservatively hope for Ukraine to start large-scale counterattacks by next spring but bearing in mind increasing public fatigue.) For instance, Ukraine’s demand for longer-range Army Tactical Missile Systems, known as ATACMS, that can be fired one at a time from the HIMARS truck beds and hit Russian targets nearly 200 miles away have fallen on deaf ears with the Biden administration, which is worried about Ukraine hitting targets inside of Russia and escalating the conflict. Kyiv has pledged that it would not do that.

The Ukrainian official said Kyiv is hoping for dozens of HIMARS to eventually arrive in Ukraine—a far cry from the 300 multiple launch rocket systems that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s confidante Mykhailo Podolyak asked for in June; Kaleniuk pegged the number at 40 batteries loaded with ATACMS missiles to begin the counterattack and self-propelled Paladin artillery pieces that can more easily dodge Russian counter-fire.

Ukrainian officials insist that Russia has not succeeded in destroying any of their batteries so far, but there remain growing fears that Russia will begin to find countermeasures from the HIMARS rockets. And the potential arrival of up to 100 Iranian combat drones, which U.S. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan said Tehran had agreed to sell to Russia, is creating fears in the Ukrainian ranks that the HIMARS batteries will be left helpless to an aerial onslaught, the Ukrainian military official told Foreign Policy. Ukraine has been asking U.S. officials for more drones of their own to conduct reconnaissance sweeps and fight back. “It will be really hard for [Russia] to hide command posts from our reconnaissance,” the official said.

“Russia is not above learning from market leaders—first Israeli drones over a decade ago and now Iranians,” said Samuel Bendett, an advisor with the CNA think tank and a member of the organization’s Russia Studies Program.“If Iranians provide Russia with loitering munitions, then Moscow can start applying tactics it learnt from the Nagorno-Karabakh war, where loitering munitions proved decisive.”

Even with the HIMARS screaming and more Russian ammunition depots going boom in the night, experts believe that the new American weapons are likely to simply reinforce the status quo on the ground: a protracted stalemate.

“By hitting command and control, by hitting ammo depots, you make it much more likely that a Russian offensive will stall,” Lee said. “But that doesn’t necessarily mean that HIMARS is going to give the Ukrainians the ability to retake terrain.”

More at https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/07/13/ukraine-himars-ammunition-russia-
us/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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6IXSTRINGJACK:
Five bucks says that the US did that. By proxy, of course, but it's all the same.
Got to keep those war drums banging when the people are tired of your fake war.
Otherwise Daddy Raytheon doesn't get paid and Mama Pelosi doesn't get her kickbacks.

SECOND: 6ix, Putin, Signym and you call truth lies. How then can you win your bet that the Pentagon, not Putin, killed Ukrainian civilians? One way is that the Russian missiles did not evaporate on impact. The missile left jagged metal pieces identifying it as made in Russia, but when all truth is a lie, 6ix could claim the missile was stolen from Russia by the Pentagon, therefore 6ix wins his bet that it is the Pentagon, not Putin, killing civilians.

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Similar things have happened in Syria, you know. In one infamous "Assad gassed his own people" episode, the field OPCW investigators looked at the condition and position of a chlorine cylinder and concluded that the cylinder had been "placed" on the bed. (bc if it really had fallen thru the ceiling it would have broken the bed). In other words, it was "staged" by people at the scene.

The technical report was rewritten by an OPCW higher-up to say the opposite. It wasn't until a whistleblower came forward a few years later that the malicious OPCW report was exposed.

And then there was another "Assad gassed his own people" episode where a rocket fin was placed specifically in the frame to implicate the Syrian government, amplified by the (in)famous Bellingcat.

Another "Assad gassed his own people" where the same children's bodies were spotted (by a sharp-eyed nun who worked in Syria) in different positions and locations to amplify the public body count.

And, hey, what about the half-dozen scenarios of the Skripal poisoning, none of which made sense (it was the doorknob! No, it was the clothing!) or could account for the when, where and how ... HOW they could have gotten so far from home before being overcome? Or even the so-called Navalny poisoning.

And what about the snipers on the Maidan?

Or even TRUMP!RUSSIA!COLLUSION! in which file metadata points to files being loaded locally onto a thumb drive, not "hacked" via the internet.

You think our CIA doesn't stoop to false flags and provocations?

You think Russia would get a fair hearing in any western agency?

I HATE LIES. And you, SECOND, are a clumsy, twisted, confused liar who doesn't know when to stop lying.

It's a bad habit you have there. It must make things really noisy inside your head, with dozens of voices all telling different stories. You should try to break bad habit; it's worse than smoking.


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Yup.

You know when I was closest in my life to calling myself a Democrat?

When it was the Democrats who agreed on these types of issues with me when GWB was in office.

It's all right here in my post history.

Fuck 2020 Democrats.

Brainwashed fucking idiots and liars, the entire lot of them.

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Yup.

You know when I was closest in my life to calling myself a Democrat?

When it was the Democrats who agreed on these types of issues with me when GWB was in office.

It's all right here in my post history.

Fuck 2020 Democrats.

Brainwashed fucking idiots and liars, the entire lot of them.

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6ix, you have always been a perfectly natural fit for the Republican Party. Vote for Trump since he gives your life meaning that it never before had! Be what you always were meant to be.

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