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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Barack Obama is President: Putin invades Crimea.

Donald Trump is President: Putin doesn't do shit.

Joe Biden* is President: Putin invades Ukraine.

One of these things is not like the other.

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I thought pizmo beach was in CA. Maybe it's actually in Ukraine. Which explains a lot.

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.

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Hey G. Can you stick around a bit? It would be so so good to have another sane person keeping tabs on this. Also, its' good to see you're good.

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.

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You might think this is a satirical story from The Onion, but it is the New York Times:

Putin Threatens Nuclear War Against The Planet, As Experts Question His Sanity

Putin made clear his true target is America’s “empire of lies,” and he threatened “consequences you have never faced in your history” for “anyone who tries to interfere with us.”

Given Russia’s nuclear arsenal, he said, “there should be no doubt that any potential aggressor will face defeat and ominous consequences should it directly attack our country.” He added: “All necessary decisions have been taken in this regard.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20220225074515/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/02/24/world/europe/us-putin-nuclear-war-nato.html

Somebody needs to talk to Putin like Mal talked to the Operative in Serenity: "You do that, best make peace with your dear and fluffy lord."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by whozit:

Bull, when the war is over in Ukraine in a few weeks the EU will want to be friends with Vlad again and he knows this.

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.

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Hey G. Can you stick around a bit? It would be so so good to have another sane person keeping tabs on this. Also, its' good to see you're good.

T

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Originally posted by second:
I think Ukraine has already lost. The President of Ukraine just hasn't fled, yet, but this guy was NOT ready. Even last week he would not admit war was about to happen to him.

The governments of the EU which are actually controlled by the richest 1% of population will very possibly want to be friends with Putin, next year, because to permanently stop trading with Russia would reduce the wealth of the 1% wealthiest. As for the rest of voters, they don't want the high fuel prices and shortages caused by not trading with Russia, and they will express themselves when voting.

To see EU actually blow up the Kremlin and Putin? That would be too disruptive for EU to even think about it. They'd worry about who'd replace Putin. Much easier for America to give some anti-tank weapons to Ukraine and the EU be disappointed when Ukrainian soldiers use a few of the missiles and then resell the rest for a profit after fleeing Ukraine.

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Originally posted by THG:
I hear you G. Truth be told I could chose to leave tomorrow, but for today I’m here.

I have long dispelled any notion of a firefly reboot G but with Disney now owning it there is hope. Disney is up to its neck in space shows. If it is rebooted this site will bang back to life unless all that are left are trolls. If there is to be a reboot it may not be too long off. Pushing back against the trolls may be what’s needed at the moment to allow a fireflyfans reboot as well.

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

That's the spirit, second!

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‘This might be the last time you see me alive,’ Ukrainian president says.

Zelenskyy said in the same speech that he was “target No. 1” for Russian forces.

Zelenskyy said his family was target No. 2.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-ukraine-live-updates-this-
might-be-the-last-time-you-see-me-alive-ukrainian-president-says/ar-AAUax9O

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Originally posted by second:
It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:
UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.

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I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. . . .

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Originally posted by second:
It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:
UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.

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I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

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If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

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Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

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Originally posted by THG:
I reject your premise that we need bullies and corrupt bad guys to deal with their bullies and corrupt bad guys. I further reject your premise that Russia China and Iran can take over half the world unless they currently hold that much territory. Their expansionism will be checked. Especially now since they are seeing the consequences Russia is and are going to suffer.

So far, it’s said the Russians have lost 14 planes, 8 helicopters, 102 tanks, 536 BBM, armored combat vehicles, 15 heavy machine guns, and 1 BUK missile since Feb. 24, according to Ukraine's military. The Kremlin also lost over 3,500 soldiers. Remember, this does not include the sanctions, and China is watching.

They’re getting their clocks cleaned by an army with half their resources and training. China is even less capable of actual fighting. Iran and North Korea are little more than an irritant. As for America being to woke to fight back, think again.

Without firing a shot America and our allies have helped Ukraine shame the Russian army. If Putin wants he’ll commit the rest of his troops and shut the active war down but the Ukrainian army has sent a chilling message to Moscow. And it is prepared to fight as an insurgency going forward.

You want to talk about woke? Europe has been woke, reminded why they stand united as NATO. It’s one of the biggest consequences of Russia’s behavior. NATO now has a huge new commitment to sustaining, improving and expanding.

tick tock

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

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Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.

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I reject your premise that we need bullies and corrupt bad guys to deal with their bullies and corrupt bad guys. I further reject your premise that Russia China and Iran can take over half the world unless they currently hold that much territory. Their expansionism will be checked. Especially now since they are seeing the consequences Russia is and are going to suffer.

So far, it’s said the Russians have lost 14 planes, 8 helicopters, 102 tanks, 536 BBM, armored combat vehicles, 15 heavy machine guns, and 1 BUK missile since Feb. 24, according to Ukraine's military. The Kremlin also lost over 3,500 soldiers. Remember, this does not include the sanctions, and China is watching.

They’re getting their clocks cleaned by an army with half their resources and training. China is even less capable of actual fighting. Iran and North Korea are little more than an irritant. As for America being to woke to fight back, think again.

Without firing a shot America and our allies have helped Ukraine shame the Russian army. If Putin wants he’ll commit the rest of his troops and shut the active war down but the Ukrainian army has sent a chilling message to Moscow. And it is prepared to fight as an insurgency going forward.

You want to talk about woke? Europe has been woke, reminded why they stand united as NATO. It’s one of the biggest consequences of Russia’s behavior. NATO now has a huge new commitment to sustaining, improving and expanding.

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Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other, more coldly practical hand, it might be easier and a hell of a lot less deadly to hope for a swift capture of Ukraine so A) fighting would stop, and B) sanctions and the corner that Putin has put himself into will just get darker and darker until some able bodied Russian puts a slug in his head.

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Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other . . .

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If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

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Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.

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Do you know how much junk the US buys from China? A hell of a lot more than Russia does. I personally have sent a lot of money to China via Amazon over the last 2 years. They're not cutting us off any time soon.

And Iran? Really?

And why do Trump people watch so much CNN? I don't get it.

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Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other . . .

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I don't think NATO does that sort of thing. NATO writes:

NATO’s success was reflected in the fact that, throughout the entire period of the Cold War, NATO forces were not involved in a single military engagement.

NATO’s first military operation -- In August 1995, NATO launched Operation Deliberate Force to compel an end to Serb-led violence in Bosnia-Herzegovina (BiH). This successful air campaign paved the way to the signing of the Dayton Peace Accords in December 1995. https://www.nato.int/summit2009/topics_en/02-introduction_to_nato_oper
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Since Bosnia-Herzegovina, NATO has tried a few military missions, but NATO has never before taken on a force as big as Russia. Since USA refuses to attempt to do the job, NATO forces won't step in. The job is too big for NATO.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_52060.htm

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:
UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.

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I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.

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Originally posted by THG:
Here we go baby. The knockout punch. Russian banks cut off from SWIFT. The world has had enough of this guy. Watch the video. It's not long and wow, there is a finality in her speech about Russia's future.

Hey comrades signym and kiki what do you think, will Putin's own people will put a bullet in his head? The sooner the better I say.

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Here we go baby. The knockout punch. Russian banks cut off from SWIFT. The world has had enough of this guy. Watch the video. It's not long and wow, there is a finality in her speech about Russia's future.

Hey comrades signym and kiki what do you think, will Putin's own people will put a bullet in his head? The sooner the better I say.

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I love that video! She’s not fcking around.

Here’s another. America IS in the war, even if remotely. American made Javelin tank killers.

“Holy shit!” God bless America.

Fwiw - Every US citizen should think about Ruski retaliation. Especially if fckhd gets more desperate. Cyber disruption, which means electric grid attacks, etc. Their tanks may be rolling death traps, but they have great hackers. Trust me!

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. But what about Covid?

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