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Do you have problems loading up the Garden, Brenda? Do you have it set for 50 posts per page?


..... Yanno what? I don't know if we can still even change that if somebody isn't set for 50 posts per page.

I did it years and years back (when the site was a different color) when I was having a problem loading pages at somebody else's suggestion, and now the only time I have trouble loading any pages is in the music threads where there are a lot of YouTube videos to load up at one time.

But I can't find any option to do that now.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Do you have problems loading up the Garden, Brenda? Do you have it set for 50 posts per page?


..... Yanno what? I don't know if we can still even change that if somebody isn't set for 50 posts per page.

I did it years and years back (when the site was a different color) when I was having a problem loading pages at somebody else's suggestion, and now the only time I have trouble loading any pages is in the music threads where there are a lot of YouTube videos to load up at one time.

But I can't find any option to do that now.

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Originally posted by Brenda:
Hey SIX. Forgot to tell you, I finished watching season 1 of "Miss Scarelet and the Duke." It was slow starting and by the last episode it had picked up. Have to see if I can find the second season.

One of the actors from Jamestown is in it playing the police inspector. He cleans up real good and I found myself thinking, "I'd like one of those."

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Originally posted by Brenda:
No, I don't SIX. I didn't know you could do something like that about how many posts show.

The only time someone showed me how to do anything like change how a site worked was for the Official Board.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Do you have problems loading up the Garden, Brenda? Do you have it set for 50 posts per page?


..... Yanno what? I don't know if we can still even change that if somebody isn't set for 50 posts per page.

I did it years and years back (when the site was a different color) when I was having a problem loading pages at somebody else's suggestion, and now the only time I have trouble loading any pages is in the music threads where there are a lot of YouTube videos to load up at one time.

But I can't find any option to do that now.

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It was probably a glitch is fff.net database. It was displaying the pages, as it normally does, then the content, then the pages, again, which it shouldn't do. And it did that three times in a row.

All of these kinds of websites operate on some sort of database. I'm not a db expert, but I've worked with many MANY databases, and I know that even the very expensive ones aren't infinitely extensible. You run into a limit somewhere - a limit on the number of bytes in a field, or a limit on the number of fields in a table, or a limit on buffer size, or the amount of RAM a db takes up... any number of program and physical limitations.

We've seen the db crap out before, where it lost the link between a username and its content (I think that happened with MIKE R bc the username still appears but the content is gone) or lost a username completely (I think that happened with KPO and BRENDA bc not only did the content disappear, so did their usernames).

Anyway, databases aren't infallible.

I prefer not to stress the architecture in case the whole thread craps out, so maybe we should end this thread and re-start someplace else?



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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

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Originally posted by Brenda:
Hey SIX. Forgot to tell you, I finished watching season 1 of "Miss Scarelet and the Duke." It was slow starting and by the last episode it had picked up. Have to see if I can find the second season.

One of the actors from Jamestown is in it playing the police inspector. He cleans up real good and I found myself thinking, "I'd like one of those."

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Hehe. Are you talking about Mrs. Scarlett's "foil". I only saw the first episode, but it looks like things might get spicy.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Do you have problems loading up the Garden, Brenda? Do you have it set for 50 posts per page?


..... Yanno what? I don't know if we can still even change that if somebody isn't set for 50 posts per page.

I did it years and years back (when the site was a different color) when I was having a problem loading pages at somebody else's suggestion, and now the only time I have trouble loading any pages is in the music threads where there are a lot of YouTube videos to load up at one time.

But I can't find any option to do that now.

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It was probably a glitch is fff.net database. It was displaying the pages, as it normally does, then the content, then the pages, again, which it shouldn't do. And it did that three times in a row.

All of these kinds of websites operate on some sort of database. I'm not a db expert, but I've worked with many MANY databases, and I know that even the very expensive ones aren't infinitely extensible. You run into a limit somewhere - a limit on the number of bytes in a field, or a limit on the number of fields in a table, or a limit on buffer size, or the amount of RAM a db takes up... any number of program and physical limitations.

We've seen the db crap out before, where it lost the link between a username and its content (I think that happened with MIKE R bc the username still appears but the content is gone) or lost a username completely (I think that happened with KPO and BRENDA bc not only did the content disappear, so did their usernames).

Anyway, databases aren't infallible.

I prefer not to stress the architecture in case the whole thread craps out, so maybe we should end this thread and re-start someplace else?



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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake

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I'm okay with that. Your 2nd thread is as good a place as any.

If Brenda's on board, why don't you put the final post in here with a link to the new Garden thread? I'll just post in the new one for now while you two sort it out.



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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Wow, this has been a hard, hard year for gardening. Last rainy season started out early and promising; October 2013 we got a couple of good rainstorms and then .... nothing. Nothing. More nothing. Which dragged on to the historic drought.

Usually my water usage goes down during winter, but not last winter. I had to water the garden areas every week, and the lawns twice a week (one of the reasons I'm xeriscaping) just to keep them alive. I took special pains with the two avocados and the camellias because they're the grandparents of the backyard, planted by the previous owners sixty years ago. I soaked them deeply at least once a month. But despite my best efforts, the plants still suffered - not from lack of water, but possibly from high salt buildup or basic soil ... the older avocado and camellia leaves took on a pale bronzy color, and needles on my canary island pines were just beginning to turn yellow.

In addition, the tomatoes were crippled and the eggplant killed by a horrible infestation of spider mites. Last year, I gave away almost thirty pounds of homegrown tomatoes and had all of the eggplant I wanted. This year, I was lucky to have enough fresh tomatoes for a weekly salad, and just a few eggplant before they gave up the ghost. The spider mites went on to attack a few more plants (which fortunately I didn't care so much for). My Italian flat beans- which I've never grown before - and my sunflowers (which I HAVE grown before) were spindly and unproductive. Same seed source. I wonder if the seed was good. At least the corn came up OK.

Two of my recently-planted sundrops died, I only have one left. This is a good representation of what the survivor looks like in my garden




and one of my verbena lilacena died, I only have two left ... another good representation



For no reason that I can see except they really, really didn't appreciate such hard wellwater. And then, the summer was hot and humid - tropical, even - and some native plants which are adapted to cool wet winters and hot DRY summers responded with a fantastic case of mildew. I broke down and got some Neem oil so that next year I'll be prepared for the onslaught.

I have NEVER failed with so many plants all in one season! This was a gardening year I was happy to close the book on, and I now have a much MUCH greater appreciation for the commercial farmer, who lives or dies by whether plants produce or not.

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But in order to be a gardener or a farmer, one must be an optimist, I guess. I've been buying my xeriscape plants mostly in onesies and twosies because I really don't know how they'll grow, or what they'll look like ... or what I want ... and the reality is that I'll still have a surprising amount of bare space, even when the plants mature.

So I took out several of my CA native/ xeriscape gardening books, and just looked at the pictures and figured out what I respond to, and what I hate, and the principles behind both. And I just ordered a crap-ton of plants: Spanish lavender (because it looks most like the Great Basin sagebrush that I like, which won't grow here because the winters are too warm),


penstemon BOP which looks like a micro boxwood when not in bloom


white monkeyflower


blue-eyed grass

and Indian rice grass

to go with the germander sage, Dusty Miller, red autumn sage, and the creeping Oregon grape and various native currants and snowberries under the trees.

I hope, when all is done, that you would feel as if you were in some very nice landscape, something that nature had put together in a happy combination of loveliness.

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And then we got RAIN!!!! A storm last Sunday dropped an unexpected 1/2 inch of rain on our location, and the storm which followed added another inch. I once again found myself wishing I had a rain barrel or two or seven. The plants already look happier for the soft water.

So there it is for the garden so far this year. A horrible horrible season, but maybe things will turn around this rainy season year and we'll get at least the usual amount. I still plan to xeriscape more lawn, it just takes a surprising amount of plants to fill in the spaces, I'm finding out!

I hope you enjoyed the pictures. One of these days -when the plants mature - I'll take real photos of my real garden and post them online.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Wow, this has been a hard, hard year for gardening. Last rainy season started out early and promising; October 2013 we got a couple of good rainstorms and then .... nothing. Nothing. More nothing. Which dragged on to the historic drought.

Usually my water usage goes down during winter, but not last winter. I had to water the garden areas every week, and the lawns twice a week (one of the reasons I'm xeriscaping) just to keep them alive. I took special pains with the two avocados and the camellias because they're the grandparents of the backyard, planted by the previous owners sixty years ago. I soaked them deeply at least once a month. But despite my best efforts, the plants still suffered - not from lack of water, but possibly from high salt buildup or basic soil ... the older avocado and camellia leaves took on a pale bronzy color, and needles on my canary island pines were just beginning to turn yellow.

In addition, the tomatoes were crippled and the eggplant killed by a horrible infestation of spider mites. Last year, I gave away almost thirty pounds of homegrown tomatoes and had all of the eggplant I wanted. This year, I was lucky to have enough fresh tomatoes for a weekly salad, and just a few eggplant before they gave up the ghost. The spider mites went on to attack a few more plants (which fortunately I didn't care so much for). My Italian flat beans- which I've never grown before - and my sunflowers (which I HAVE grown before) were spindly and unproductive. Same seed source. I wonder if the seed was good. At least the corn came up OK.

Two of my recently-planted sundrops died, I only have one left. This is a good representation of what the survivor looks like in my garden




and one of my verbena lilacena died, I only have two left ... another good representation



For no reason that I can see except they really, really didn't appreciate such hard wellwater. And then, the summer was hot and humid - tropical, even - and some native plants which are adapted to cool wet winters and hot DRY summers responded with a fantastic case of mildew. I broke down and got some Neem oil so that next year I'll be prepared for the onslaught.

I have NEVER failed with so many plants all in one season! This was a gardening year I was happy to close the book on, and I now have a much MUCH greater appreciation for the commercial farmer, who lives or dies by whether plants produce or not.

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But in order to be a gardener or a farmer, one must be an optimist, I guess. I've been buying my xeriscape plants mostly in onesies and twosies because I really don't know how they'll grow, or what they'll look like ... or what I want ... and the reality is that I'll still have a surprising amount of bare space, even when the plants mature.

So I took out several of my CA native/ xeriscape gardening books, and just looked at the pictures and figured out what I respond to, and what I hate, and the principles behind both. And I just ordered a crap-ton of plants: Spanish lavender (because it looks most like the Great Basin sagebrush that I like, which won't grow here because the winters are too warm),


penstemon BOP which looks like a micro boxwood when not in bloom


white monkeyflower


blue-eyed grass

and Indian rice grass

to go with the germander sage, Dusty Miller, red autumn sage, and the creeping Oregon grape and various native currants and snowberries under the trees.

I hope, when all is done, that you would feel as if you were in some very nice landscape, something that nature had put together in a happy combination of loveliness.

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And then we got RAIN!!!! A storm last Sunday dropped an unexpected 1/2 inch of rain on our location, and the storm which followed added another inch. I once again found myself wishing I had a rain barrel or two or seven. The plants already look happier for the soft water.

So there it is for the garden so far this year. A horrible horrible season, but maybe things will turn around this rainy season year and we'll get at least the usual amount. I still plan to xeriscape more lawn, it just takes a surprising amount of plants to fill in the spaces, I'm finding out!

I hope you enjoyed the pictures. One of these days -when the plants mature - I'll take real photos of my real garden and post them online.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Wow, this has been a hard, hard year for gardening. Last rainy season started out early and promising; October 2013 we got a couple of good rainstorms and then .... nothing. Nothing. More nothing. Which dragged on to the historic drought.

Usually my water usage goes down during winter, but not last winter. I had to water the garden areas every week, and the lawns twice a week (one of the reasons I'm xeriscaping) just to keep them alive. I took special pains with the two avocados and the camellias because they're the grandparents of the backyard, planted by the previous owners sixty years ago. I soaked them deeply at least once a month. But despite my best efforts, the plants still suffered - not from lack of water, but possibly from high salt buildup or basic soil ... the older avocado and camellia leaves took on a pale bronzy color, and needles on my canary island pines were just beginning to turn yellow.

In addition, the tomatoes were crippled and the eggplant killed by a horrible infestation of spider mites. Last year, I gave away almost thirty pounds of homegrown tomatoes and had all of the eggplant I wanted. This year, I was lucky to have enough fresh tomatoes for a weekly salad, and just a few eggplant before they gave up the ghost. The spider mites went on to attack a few more plants (which fortunately I didn't care so much for). My Italian flat beans- which I've never grown before - and my sunflowers (which I HAVE grown before) were spindly and unproductive. Same seed source. I wonder if the seed was good. At least the corn came up OK.

Two of my recently-planted sundrops died, I only have one left. This is a good representation of what the survivor looks like in my garden




and one of my verbena lilacena died, I only have two left ... another good representation



For no reason that I can see except they really, really didn't appreciate such hard wellwater. And then, the summer was hot and humid - tropical, even - and some native plants which are adapted to cool wet winters and hot DRY summers responded with a fantastic case of mildew. I broke down and got some Neem oil so that next year I'll be prepared for the onslaught.

I have NEVER failed with so many plants all in one season! This was a gardening year I was happy to close the book on, and I now have a much MUCH greater appreciation for the commercial farmer, who lives or dies by whether plants produce or not.

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But in order to be a gardener or a farmer, one must be an optimist, I guess. I've been buying my xeriscape plants mostly in onesies and twosies because I really don't know how they'll grow, or what they'll look like ... or what I want ... and the reality is that I'll still have a surprising amount of bare space, even when the plants mature.

So I took out several of my CA native/ xeriscape gardening books, and just looked at the pictures and figured out what I respond to, and what I hate, and the principles behind both. And I just ordered a crap-ton of plants: Spanish lavender (because it looks most like the Great Basin sagebrush that I like, which won't grow here because the winters are too warm),


penstemon BOP which looks like a micro boxwood when not in bloom


white monkeyflower


blue-eyed grass

and Indian rice grass

to go with the germander sage, Dusty Miller, red autumn sage, and the creeping Oregon grape and various native currants and snowberries under the trees.

I hope, when all is done, that you would feel as if you were in some very nice landscape, something that nature had put together in a happy combination of loveliness.

----------------
And then we got RAIN!!!! A storm last Sunday dropped an unexpected 1/2 inch of rain on our location, and the storm which followed added another inch. I once again found myself wishing I had a rain barrel or two or seven. The plants already look happier for the soft water.

So there it is for the garden so far this year. A horrible horrible season, but maybe things will turn around this rainy season year and we'll get at least the usual amount. I still plan to xeriscape more lawn, it just takes a surprising amount of plants to fill in the spaces, I'm finding out!

I hope you enjoyed the pictures. One of these days -when the plants mature - I'll take real photos of my real garden and post them online.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Wow, this has been a hard, hard year for gardening. Last rainy season started out early and promising; October 2013 we got a couple of good rainstorms and then .... nothing. Nothing. More nothing. Which dragged on to the historic drought.

Usually my water usage goes down during winter, but not last winter. I had to water the garden areas every week, and the lawns twice a week (one of the reasons I'm xeriscaping) just to keep them alive. I took special pains with the two avocados and the camellias because they're the grandparents of the backyard, planted by the previous owners sixty years ago. I soaked them deeply at least once a month. But despite my best efforts, the plants still suffered - not from lack of water, but possibly from high salt buildup or basic soil ... the older avocado and camellia leaves took on a pale bronzy color, and needles on my canary island pines were just beginning to turn yellow.

In addition, the tomatoes were crippled and the eggplant killed by a horrible infestation of spider mites. Last year, I gave away almost thirty pounds of homegrown tomatoes and had all of the eggplant I wanted. This year, I was lucky to have enough fresh tomatoes for a weekly salad, and just a few eggplant before they gave up the ghost. The spider mites went on to attack a few more plants (which fortunately I didn't care so much for). My Italian flat beans- which I've never grown before - and my sunflowers (which I HAVE grown before) were spindly and unproductive. Same seed source. I wonder if the seed was good. At least the corn came up OK.

Two of my recently-planted sundrops died, I only have one left. This is a good representation of what the survivor looks like in my garden




and one of my verbena lilacena died, I only have two left ... another good representation



For no reason that I can see except they really, really didn't appreciate such hard wellwater. And then, the summer was hot and humid - tropical, even - and some native plants which are adapted to cool wet winters and hot DRY summers responded with a fantastic case of mildew. I broke down and got some Neem oil so that next year I'll be prepared for the onslaught.

I have NEVER failed with so many plants all in one season! This was a gardening year I was happy to close the book on, and I now have a much MUCH greater appreciation for the commercial farmer, who lives or dies by whether plants produce or not.

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But in order to be a gardener or a farmer, one must be an optimist, I guess. I've been buying my xeriscape plants mostly in onesies and twosies because I really don't know how they'll grow, or what they'll look like ... or what I want ... and the reality is that I'll still have a surprising amount of bare space, even when the plants mature.

So I took out several of my CA native/ xeriscape gardening books, and just looked at the pictures and figured out what I respond to, and what I hate, and the principles behind both. And I just ordered a crap-ton of plants: Spanish lavender (because it looks most like the Great Basin sagebrush that I like, which won't grow here because the winters are too warm),


penstemon BOP which looks like a micro boxwood when not in bloom


white monkeyflower


blue-eyed grass

and Indian rice grass

to go with the germander sage, Dusty Miller, red autumn sage, and the creeping Oregon grape and various native currants and snowberries under the trees.

I hope, when all is done, that you would feel as if you were in some very nice landscape, something that nature had put together in a happy combination of loveliness.

----------------
And then we got RAIN!!!! A storm last Sunday dropped an unexpected 1/2 inch of rain on our location, and the storm which followed added another inch. I once again found myself wishing I had a rain barrel or two or seven. The plants already look happier for the soft water.

So there it is for the garden so far this year. A horrible horrible season, but maybe things will turn around this rainy season year and we'll get at least the usual amount. I still plan to xeriscape more lawn, it just takes a surprising amount of plants to fill in the spaces, I'm finding out!

I hope you enjoyed the pictures. One of these days -when the plants mature - I'll take real photos of my real garden and post them online.

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