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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Wednesday, February 15, 2023 9:52 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Well, as a matter of fact you DO want to hurt people. You've threatened people online and claim to have turned lives into "smoking ruins". That must be one of your multiple personalities talking, causing you to contradict yourself. Again I can't claim to have a perfect understanding of people I meet online ne- like you do- but clearly constantly lying to yourself has caused some sort of breakdown. I hope you're getting the hejp you need.
Wednesday, February 15, 2023 11:39 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Wednesday, February 15, 2023 1:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: US Informs Ukraine It Doesn't Have Enough Long-Range Missiles To Send https://www.zerohedge.com/military/us-informs-ukraine-it-doesnt-have-enough-long-range-missiles-send Pretty soon Ukraine is gonna hear bad news about the jets, tanks, and munitions it isn't gonna get either. Oh boo hoo for Ukraine and US neocons. Let the blames begin! ***** Oh BTW SECOND, I know what you've done, so don't act innocent. You even bragged about it, remember? ( Ah, no. Of course you don't!)
Wednesday, February 15, 2023 3:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: US Informs Ukraine It Doesn't Have Enough Long-Range Missiles To Send https://www.zerohedge.com/military/us-informs-ukraine-it-doesnt-have-enough-long-range-missiles-send Pretty soon Ukraine is gonna hear bad news about the jets, tanks, and munitions it isn't gonna get either. Oh boo hoo for Ukraine and US neocons. Let the blames begin! ***** Oh BTW SECOND, I know what you've done, so don't act innocent. You even bragged about it, remember? ( Ah, no. Of course you don't!)You're still convinced Russia is going win, aren't you?
Wednesday, February 15, 2023 3:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:You're still convinced Russia is going win, aren't you? Ya think? Not only do I think it "will" win, I think it's already winning.
Quote:You're still convinced Russia is going win, aren't you?
Wednesday, February 15, 2023 4:35 PM
Wednesday, February 15, 2023 5:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: AFAIK Russia's ambition is to move NATO missiles away from their border. I've been puzzling what Russia will do after it incorporates the Donbas, Kherson, Kharkiv and possibly Odessa. It will still have a neo-Nazi Ruusia-hating west Ukraine with which it doesn't to be burdened. Rather than taking it over and struggling to rebuild/ administer, Scott Ritter has the idea that Russia will just bomb it to destruction and leave it to the EU to fix.
Wednesday, February 15, 2023 6:19 PM
Wednesday, February 15, 2023 6:43 PM
THG
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: BTW, this so-called general completely mischaracerizes what's happening in Ukraine. Anyone with two neurons and/or two hrivna to rub together has already fled. The remainder they're dragooning off the streets. They're trying to train up the younger, fitter ones to reserve for ... something. The rest, they're just throwing under Russian artillery fire Hardly a recipe for success.You will have a hard time disagreeing with the Russian general's opinion of NATO: The Ukraine War Revived NATO After It Lost Its Meaning, Unified The Collective West "I could not have guessed that Finland and Sweden would apply to join NATO. This whole chain of events is going according to plan. Frankly speaking, this is the third time we have saved NATO. After the collapse of the USSR, NATO [as a bloc] lost its meaning. We've ceded to them a significant portion of lands located in Eastern Europe; we allowed them to incorporate some of the former Warsaw Pact member-states. We worked extensively with NATO at one time and asked questions there, 'From whom are you defending yourselves now?' "Many generals and officers perceived themselves to be unemployed. Then they created the 'Partnership for Peace' program. They had to bear such rubbish. I witnessed a gathering of defense ministers from 42 countries, and an Englishman came to the rostrum and started to talk about the main threats NATO was going to face. Proliferation of weapons of mass destruction took first place, second came international terrorism; drugs came third, illegal immigration followed. (Note: In 1994, Russian Foreign Minister Andrei Kozyrev signed the Partnership for Peace Agreement with NATO ) "Naturally, I asked the division commander, the air wing commander, the commander of some of their cruisers to tell me how they would fight the drug trade or illegal immigration, for instance. I said, 'What do you take us for? Do you take us for idiots?' Nevertheless, we agreed to it. "Then the Yugoslav conflict saved NATO. And now we are saving it. We gave NATO over to the Americans completely: do whatever you want. Most European countries were constantly cutting back on defense expenditures. But we gave all Europe to the hands of the Americans. We talked all the time and continue to talk of some collective West, although no collective West existed previously. A mass of contradictions existed. But today we have created this collective West with our own hands. We couldn't predict all this. So, I agree with Putin that everything is going to plan... "I look at this whole process as a dynamic. It all started with the question: to give or not to give Ukraine lethal weapons, or only bulletproof vests? And today the question is already: to give the F-16s or not? And today we are no longer talking about dozens of Abrams and Challenger [tanks]. The latest news: about 400 tanks have been promised to Ukraine. There are already agreements for 320 tanks. So, it's all serious. And there are no restrictions, except for missiles and combat aircraft. Everything is flowing. Because Russia gave Europe into the hands of the Americans." https://www.memri.org/reports/retired-russian-colonel-general-ivashov-one-year-ago-i-warned-invading-ukraine-will-hurt The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: BTW, this so-called general completely mischaracerizes what's happening in Ukraine. Anyone with two neurons and/or two hrivna to rub together has already fled. The remainder they're dragooning off the streets. They're trying to train up the younger, fitter ones to reserve for ... something. The rest, they're just throwing under Russian artillery fire Hardly a recipe for success.
Wednesday, February 15, 2023 7:53 PM
Wednesday, February 15, 2023 8:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: It astonishes me, SECOND, how you can be so consistently wrong on every particular. With the exception of Crimea, Russia has not moved to the west in over 50 years. In fact, it retreated in the other direction. NATO, OTOH, aggressively moved eastward. What I sense is a great deal of projection. You're afraid Russia is going to act like we do.
Wednesday, February 15, 2023 8:39 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Wednesday, February 15, 2023 9:38 PM
Wednesday, February 15, 2023 10:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECOND should get some kind of prize for having an iron grip on delusion.
Wednesday, February 15, 2023 11:00 PM
Wednesday, February 15, 2023 11:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Sad.
Thursday, February 16, 2023 7:23 AM
Thursday, February 16, 2023 7:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Sad.Indeed, the Russians are sad
Thursday, February 16, 2023 8:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Sad.Indeed, the Russians are sad Maybe, but I'm not witness to it. You, on the other hand, are very, very sad.
Thursday, February 16, 2023 9:52 AM
Thursday, February 16, 2023 10:32 AM
Thursday, February 16, 2023 10:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Nobody cares. Nobody really ever cared. Just like I said all along. Even Twitter is over it.
Thursday, February 16, 2023 11:29 AM
Thursday, February 16, 2023 1:39 PM
Quote: Blinken Warns Ukraine Against Seizing Crimea In About-Face Thursday, Feb 16, 2023 - 08:10 AM In a bit of an about-face for Washington based on past officials' more aggressive posture, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken now says the administration is not actively encouraging Ukraine to seize Crimea.
Thursday, February 16, 2023 2:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: "Well I didn't want it anyway" Blinken engages in ahead-of-time excuse-making. Quote: Blinken Warns Ukraine Against Seizing Crimea In About-Face Thursday, Feb 16, 2023 - 08:10 AM In a bit of an about-face for Washington based on past officials' more aggressive posture, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken now says the administration is not actively encouraging Ukraine to seize Crimea. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/blinken-warns-ukraine-against-seizing-crimea-about-face
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: SIG pulls most of her information that she posts here from this blog and stupidly defends it as a reputable source. As she continues to do so I will regenerate this thread to remind all it is a corrupted blog designed to create havoc rather than informing. Below are the names of those behind zero hedge. Don't miss what I've highlighted in red below. This folks is why comrade troll SIG loves to quote zero hedge.
Thursday, February 16, 2023 2:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Lies from a coward, copy and pasted here to FireflyFans.net by a bigger coward. Nobody cares. Keep your nuclear fear porn to yourself. We're tired of being subjected to your daily masturbation sessions, you clueless, closeted NeoCon warmonger. -------------------------------------------------- Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
Thursday, February 16, 2023 3:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The blizzard of disinfo large herd of sychophants out there trying to drown everyone in bullshit. State Dept, Thinktankistan, the Pentagon, CIA, FBI, DOJ, WH, DNC and RNC. "Journalists", "analysts", opinionaters, "influencers", "big tech". And all of their quisling dupes and paid shills. TRUMPRUSSIACOLLUSION! devoted to fucking America's collective mind.
Thursday, February 16, 2023 6:05 PM
Quote: SIGNYM: The blizzard of disinfo large herd of sychophants out there trying to drown everyone in bullshit. State Dept, Thinktankistan, the Pentagon, CIA, FBI, DOJ, WH, DNC and RNC. "Journalists", "analysts", opinionaters, "influencers", "big tech". And all of their quisling dupes and paid shills. TRUMPRUSSIACOLLUSION! devoted to fucking America's collective mind. SECOND: [ a quote] American support for Ukraine remains squarely in its own self-interest. The United States’s trade with Europe, for example, tops $1 trillion annually, making it on one of the United States’s largest trading partners. Ukraine’s..
Quote: blah blah blah ... Russian invasion of Ukraine would place a threatening power on the doorstep of American allies, which is also a direct security threat to the United States.
Quote: blah blah blah... more recycled bullshit... blah blah blah ...lies, exaggerations and accusations ...
Thursday, February 16, 2023 6:11 PM
Thursday, February 16, 2023 6:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Lies from a coward, copy and pasted here to FireflyFans.net by a bigger coward. Nobody cares. Keep your nuclear fear porn to yourself. We're tired of being subjected to your daily masturbation sessions, you clueless, closeted NeoCon warmonger. -------------------------------------------------- Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it. The blizzard of disinfo has really intensified. You'd think SECOND would have run out of propaganda to plagiarize, but there must be a large herd of sychophants out there trying to drown everyone in bullshit. It's troubling to imagine the number of Americans actively engaged in psyops against... Americans. The people who inhabit the State Dept, Thinktankistan, the Pentagon, CIA, FBI, DOJ, WH, DNC and RNC. "Journalists", "analysts", opinionaters, "influencers", "big tech". And all of their quisling dupes and paid shills. The same thunderous herd that brought us the TRUMPRUSSIACOLLUSION! hoax and hid Hunter Biden's perversity and corruption. It must number in the tens of thousands. That's gotta total tens of billions of dollars devoted to fucking America's collective mind. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Thursday, February 16, 2023 9:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Psyops, disinfo and head-fuckery: The lifeblood of the M$M today.
Friday, February 17, 2023 3:29 AM
Friday, February 17, 2023 7:02 AM
Friday, February 17, 2023 7:06 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The outcome is known. This is just softening up the part of the American public that still believes the M$M for Ukraine's defeat. They're also trying to shift blame from being idiots who created brainless policies to some, yanno,impersonal forces that had nothing to do with THEM. But SOMEBODY decided to launch a proxy war on Russia and saturate the public, and themselves, with disinfo that perpetuated their own disconnect from reality. You've been had. Again. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Friday, February 17, 2023 8:58 AM
Friday, February 17, 2023 1:38 PM
Friday, February 17, 2023 2:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The outcome is known. This is just softening up the part of the American public that still believes the M$M for Ukraine's defeat. They're also trying to shift blame from being idiots who created brainless policies to some, yanno,impersonal forces that had nothing to do with THEM. But SOMEBODY decided to launch a proxy war on Russia and saturate the public, and themselves, with disinfo that perpetuated their own disconnect from reality. You've been had. Again.
Friday, February 17, 2023 3:17 PM
Friday, February 17, 2023 4:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The outcome is known. This is just softening up the part of the American public that still believes the M$M for Ukraine's defeat. They're also trying to shift blame from being idiots who created brainless policies to some, yanno,impersonal forces that had nothing to do with THEM. But SOMEBODY decided to launch a proxy war on Russia and saturate the public, and themselves, with disinfo that perpetuated their own disconnect from reality. You've been had. Again. Russia's fleet of modern tanks down by 50%; more than 140,000 Russians killed in Ukraine war: Updates https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-fleet-of-modern-tanks-down-by-50-more-than-140-000-russians-killed-in-ukraine-war-updates/ar-AA17yAhL?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=16ddf3d3b1bf46f78e5449f8baaef2f9
Friday, February 17, 2023 4:22 PM
Quote: Why Are So Many in the West Lying About Ukraine’s Casualties? 15 February 2023 by Larry Johnson 160 Comments I am fascinated by guys like Wes O’Donnell, who publish delusional nonsense without offering one piece of credible evidence. O’Donnell, who claims to have served in the U.S. Army and the U.S. Air Force, put up a piece at Medium last week with the catchy title, Putin’s Death Cult Prepares for Huge Casualties in the Coming Days. Here are some salient points from his article: The Russian army just suffered the deadliest 24 hours since the start of the war. According to Ukraine, 1,030 Russians were killed yesterday as Moscow continues to throw thousands of freshly mobilized soldiers into the meat grinder. This brings the Russian death toll to 133,190. . . . In an intelligence update given on Tuesday, the UK Ministry of Defense said Russian forces have “only managed to gain several hundred meters of territory per week,” because the Kremlin “now lacks the munitions and maneuver units required for successful offensives.” I guess research is not Mr. O’Donnell’s strong suit. Instead of looking for independent sources he repeats the lies from the British Ministry of Defense, which gets its “intel” from the Ukrainians. If you accept the Ukrainian truth you are convinced that the Russians are being slaughtered at a horrendous rate. Only one little problem — I have been unable to find any Russian social media that shows mass graveyards and thousands of grieving Russian relatives. O’Donnell also relies on the propaganda generated by the Institute for the Study of War (a new competitor for Oxymoron of the Year Award). He makes this outlandish claim: Perhaps most interesting is how Putin is using conscripts in this war counter to traditional Russian military doctrine. Historically, Russia’s “trigger-pullers” have been its professional corps of contract troops — while conscripts were reserved for menial tasks like manual labor and maintenance. But in Ukraine, it’s the conscripts who are sent to the front while the contract troops stay safely “in the rear.” Well, as Chris Berman used to say on ESPN, “Let’s go to the videotape.” Here is a video of Wagner Group “contract” soldiers in the midst of the battle in Bakhmut packing up the corpses of fallen Ukrainians. You can hear the noise of battle in the background. Odd isn’t it. Instead of desecrating the bodies of their adversaries, the Russian contract soldiers treat the dead with respect as they secure the bodies to send them back to their loved ones. (You can see a Ukrainian flag on some of the caskets.) Here is the rest of that story. Those caskets are headed to western Ukraine and will be buried in graveyards like the following: I want to reiterate the inability of Ukrainian and Russian authorities to control social media. The ubiquitous cell phone camera provides a powerful tool to record events as they happen. If Russians were dying in the numbers claimed by Ukrainian sources we would be seeing that on social media. We are not. At least not in the number that appear on Ukrainian channels. I am not suggesting that Russia is casualty free. Russian soldiers are being killed and wounded. But not in the volume that Ukrainian soldiers are. Ukrainian claims about Russian losses is just another manifestation of psychological projection.
Friday, February 17, 2023 4:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Pity . . .
Friday, February 17, 2023 5:26 PM
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Friday, February 17, 2023 9:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I followed every link in your Yahoo article, SECOND. I couldn't find any that linked to the video that the headline purports to reference. Valid link?
Friday, February 17, 2023 10:50 PM
Saturday, February 18, 2023 3:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I followed every link in your Yahoo article, SECOND. I couldn't find any that linked to the video that the headline purports to reference. Valid link?Here is the original story from The Telegraph, UK: "Wagner Group releases graphic video of corpses in desperate plea for more ammunition", but no corpses on video! https://web.archive.org/web/20230218022044/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/02/17/wagner-group-releases-graphic-video-corpses-desperate-plea-ammunition/
Quote: Twitter has a video of "Wagner mercenaries begging the Russian Ministry of Defence for ammunition", but no corpses on video!
Quote: New video of alleged sledgehammer execution appears on Telegram channel affiliated with PMC Wagner. Graphic footage. TRIGGER WARNING: EXTREMELY GRAPHIC FOOTAGE https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2023/02/13/new-video-of-alleged-sledgehammer-execution-appears-on-telegram-channel-affiliated-with-pmc-wagner-graphic-footage-en-news
Saturday, February 18, 2023 7:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Is it possible that this so-called video is just a ... lie???
Quote:Every day we lose hundreds of our comrades. There could have been half as many of them if the military functionaries had supplied us with weapons, ammunition and everything that was needed on time. Stop messing around, let us fight, let us defend our country, our homeland. There are hundreds of our guys here. Send your children, sons-in-law, who shoot tik-toks, to this war.
Saturday, February 18, 2023 8:31 AM
Quote:I recently talked to a soldier from the Azov Regiment who was known as Commander Savior. He described to me some of his experiences in the besieged Azovstal steelworks in Mariupol, the absolutely desperate positions he and his comrades found themselves in, dead and dying people lying around them. He described in graphic terms the smell of gangrene from the people near him. And then he was captured by the Russians after the battalion had to surrender. He was tortured for months. The Russians were trying to get him and his comrades to confess to, for example, the bombing of the maternity hospital in Mariupol, which produced one of the famous images of the war, the pregnant mother being carried out on a stretcher. They [Russians] were trying to get the Ukrainian soldiers to [falsely] confess that it was actually they who had blown up their own hospital.
Saturday, February 18, 2023 2:04 PM
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