Russia Invades Ukraine. Again by captaincrunch

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Originally posted by second:

Medvedev: “That’s why the rotten dogs of war are barking in such a disgusting way.”

What a great line.

It wouldn't be Russia if they weren't making threats. They have one speed when it comes to problem solving.

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Thursday, July 7, 2022 3:43 PM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

It wouldn't be Russia if they weren't making threats. They have one speed when it comes to problem solving.

Russians can't stop bragging about The Great Patriotic War. According to Russians, without help from anyone, not the US, not the UK, Russia beat back Hitler. The Russian braggarts don't mention that it took 6 years and killed 28 million Russians doing it. The Russians don't brag about the millions of German civilians killed by Russians after peace was declared with Germany, either. That aftermath was an indictment against the character of Russians.

Crimea was invaded in 2014, so the Russians have been at this for 8 years, versus 6 years with Germany, but the US and UK weren't also fighting the Ukrainian Nazis, so it is gonna take a little longer for Russia to beat the Nazis this time.

This is a Russian's idea of a fair fight:
Population Russia 142,320,790 (July 2021 est.) Ukraine 43,745,640 (July 2021 est.)

Too bad the Ukrainians didn't keep their nukes. That would have caused the Russians to pause a bit to consider whether the Ukrainians had engineered a way to use the nukes against Russia. But Russia promised to protect Ukraine if it gave up its nukes. When it came time to keep their promises, the Russians said that they had made the promises to a different group of Ukrainians, therefore, no promise for this new group, who are all Nazis.
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/21/1082124528/ukraine-russia-putin-invasio
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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told CNN's Wolf Blitzer on Thursday that Ukraine is unwilling to cede land to Russia in diplomatic negotiations to end the war.

"Ukrainians are not ready to give away their land, to accept that these territories belong to Russia. This is our land. We always talk about that, and we are intending to prove it."

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/07/politics/volodymyr-zelensky-interview-c
nntv/index.html

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Friday, July 8, 2022 9:23 AM

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Russian Media Distort Western Reporting on Ukraine

Claim: “Telegraph: The West will cut aid to Ukraine because of the futility of supporting Kyiv.”

Fact check by Polygraph.info: False
https://www.polygraph.info/a/fact-check-russian-media-distort-western-
reporting-on-ukraine/31933612.html

Also Russian claims it didn't shoot down Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 over Ukraine, killing all 298 aboard, two-thirds of whom were Dutch.
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/10/889953353/nearly-6-years-after-mh17-was
-shot-down-dutch-prosecutors-say-they-will-sue-russ

Dutch trial over downing of MH17 comes to an end
Nearly eight years after Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 was shot down over eastern Ukraine, the trial of four men charged with the murder of all 298 people onboard has wrapped up.
https://www.courthousenews.com/dutch-trial-over-downing-of-mh17-comes-
to-an-end/

Putin threatens to use Satan II nuclear missile - which can reach UK in three minutes

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Friday, July 8, 2022 3:54 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Russia DIDN'T shoot down MH17. It may have been Donbas separatists who shot it down by accident, but Russians did not fire the missile and Russian officials didn't give the order to shoot.

The actual Telegraph headline and sub reads

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“Ukraine needs a victory before autumn to silence Western doubters.” Its sub-headline read: “Volodymyr Zelenskyy is running out of time to shore up support, with some believing his country’s battle against Russia is futile.”

While G7 nations may have vowed to continue military aid, they fail to say AT WHAT LEVEL.

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Friday, July 8, 2022 4:06 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Russia DIDN'T shoot down MH17. It may have been Donbas separatists who shot it down by accident, but Russians did not fire the missile and Russian officials didn't give the order to shoot.

How do know? You can’t possibly know anything you just said unless you were there. Were you there?

cue Ziggy fake exasperation in 3… 2… 1…

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Friday, July 8, 2022 4:16 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Russia DIDN'T shoot down MH17. It may have been Donbas separatists who shot it down by accident, but Russians did not fire the missile and Russian officials didn't give the order to shoot.

Since the court has not issued a verdict, you could be correct, Signym. The case has moved with typical speed: 8 years so far. There is no problem waiting a few more months for a final verdict.

At the end of Friday’s hearing, Presiding Judge Hendrik Steenhuis said the court expected to issue a verdict by the end of the year. Two possible dates are scheduled, one in November and one in December, and he expects to announce the final date at a hearing in September.

The Netherlands has also, together with Australia, launched a case at the United Nations’ aviation body, the International Civil Aviation Organization, arguing the Russian Federation violated the 1944 Chicago Convention in helping to shoot down the passenger jet. I suppose that will also take many-many-many years to come to a decision. In the meanwhile, Russia is innocent until proven guilty.

https://www.courthousenews.com/dutch-trial-over-downing-of-mh17-comes-
to-an-end/

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Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday issued a warning to the West and Ukraine, saying the war might drag on until the “last Ukrainian is left standing.”

“Today we hear that they want to defeat us on the battlefield. Well, what can I say? Let them try,” Putin said during a meeting with the heads of the State Duma party factions that aired on state media television Russia-24.

"We have continuously heard that the West is ready to fight with us until the last Ukrainian is left standing. This is a tragedy for the Ukrainian people. However, it seems like everything is going towards this," he said.

Putin has also blamed the West for “encouraging and justifying genocide against people in Donbas.”

"We are not refusing peace negotiations. But those who do refuse should know that the further [the conflict continues], the more difficult it will be for them to negotiate with us," Putin said.

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-07-07
-22/h_3ee09632cc228842cba584de25ec48dc

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Friday, July 8, 2022 5:50 PM

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Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Russia DIDN'T shoot down MH17. It may have been Donbas separatists who shot it down by accident, but Russians did not fire the missile and Russian officials didn't give the order to shoot.

How do know? You can’t possibly know anything you just said unless you were there. Were you there?

cue Ziggy fake exasperation in 3… 2… 1…

My exasperation isn't fake, UNLIKE YOUR CONSTANT "MISUNDERSTANDINGS"

Any happy camper who follows reality knows the prosecution isn't accusing Russians of firing anything.

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Friday, July 8, 2022 7:10 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:
Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:

Russia DIDN'T shoot down MH17. It may have been Donbas separatists who shot it down by accident, but Russians did not fire the missile and Russian officials didn't give the order to shoot.

How do know? You can’t possibly know anything you just said unless you were there. Were you there?

cue Ziggy fake exasperation in 3… 2… 1…

My exasperation isn't fake, UNLIKE YOUR CONSTANT "MISUNDERSTANDINGS"

Any happy camper who follows reality knows the prosecution isn't accusing Russians of firing anything.

AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Dutch prosecutors on Tuesday
said three Russians and a Ukrainian were
'fully responsible' for shooting down Malaysia Airlines
flight MH17 over Eastern Ukraine in 2014
and should be found guilty of murder.

The men - all of whom remain at large -
could face sentences of up to life imprisonment
if found guilty of helping to supply the missile system
used by Russian-backed rebels to fire a rocket at the passenger jet as
it flew from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-12-21/suspects-in-dutc
h-trial-fully-responsible-for-mh17-downing-prosecution-says#:~:text=AMSTERDAM%20(Reuters)%20%2D%20Dutch%20prosecutors,be%20found%20guilty%20of%20murder.

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Saturday, July 9, 2022 7:01 AM

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Jeezus Christ, THUGR, learn to read, willya?

Does it say that Russians were accused of firing the missile?
No.
I helpfully highlighted the accusation so you could see that they are accused of "helping to supply" the missile system, used by SOMEONE ELSE.
Unlike CAPON, who "misunderstands" things on purpose, you just plain don't undertand.
No wonder nobody wants you on their team.

Quote:
SIGNYM:
Russia DIDN'T shoot down MH17. It may have been Donbas separatists who shot it down by accident, but Russians did not fire the missile and Russian officials didn't give the order to shoot.

CAPON: How do know? You can’t possibly know anything you just said unless you were there. Were you there?

SIGNYM: cue Ziggy fake exasperation in 3… 2… 1…
My exasperation isn't fake, UNLIKE YOUR CONSTANT "MISUNDERSTANDINGS"
Any happy camper who follows reality knows the prosecution isn't accusing Russians of firing anything.

THUGR:
Quote:
AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Dutch prosecutors on Tuesday said three Russians and a Ukrainian were 'fully responsible' for shooting down Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 over Eastern Ukraine in 2014 and should be found guilty of murder.

The men - all of whom remain at large - could face sentences of up to life imprisonment
if found guilty of helping to supply the missile system used by Russian-backed rebels to fire a rocket at the passenger jet as it flew from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-12-21/suspects-in-dutc
h-trial-fully-responsible-for-mh17-downing-prosecution-says#:~:text=AMSTERDAM%20(Reuters)%20%2D%20Dutch%20prosecutors,be%20found%20guilty%20of%20murder.

Seriously, if "helping to supply" weapons used in war crimes was a crime, everyone from Canadians to Americans to Swedes would be on trial.

Next time, please double check your post to make sure you're not embarassing yourself.
Again.

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Saturday, July 9, 2022 8:37 AM

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7/8/22 at 9:19 AM EDT, Ukraine's armed forces on Friday claimed to have destroyed 35 Russian tanks in a single day. In the last week, claimed tank losses have ranged from two a day to a high of six, according to data from Ukraine.

The last time Russia released details of troop losses was on March 25. Russia hasn't disclosed its military equipment losses throughout the war. Russian officials have so far publicly denied that Moscow is having difficulties, but on June 30, Russia signaled that it could be suffering military losses after Putin's government created a draft federal law that would allow the country to quickly repair weapons and military equipment.

The Kremlin submitted a bill to the State Duma on "special economic measures" for "counterterrorist and other operations" outside of Russia, and an explanatory note attached to the bill said that there is, particularly amid the ongoing conflict, "a short-term increased need for the repair of weapons and military equipment."

The text of the draft law notes the need for Russia to repair its weapons and military equipment amid "a special military operation in the territories of the Donetsk People's Republic, the Luhansk People's Republic and Ukraine."

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-destroys-35-russian-tanks-single-day-
kyiv-forces-1722950

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Jeezus Christ, THUGR, learn to read, willya?

Does it say that Russians were accused of firing the missile?
No.
I helpfully highlighted the accusation so you could see that they are accused of "helping to supply" the missile system, used by SOMEONE ELSE.
Unlike CAPON, who "misunderstands" things on purpose, you just plain don't undertand.
No wonder nobody wants you on their team.

Who is on trial?

Three Russians nationals, Oleg Pulatov, Igor Girkin and Sergei Dubinsky, and one Ukrainian citizen, Leonid Kharchenko, are being tried in absentia for the crime of downing MH17 with a BUK missile. All four men are alleged to be lead figures in the Russian-backed forces occupying parts of Eastern Ukraine.
https://www.dw.com/en/mh17-trial-judges-get-first-look-at-cockpit-and-
fuselage/a-57678833

Russia has submitted many different stories about the MH17 crash. As older stories are shot down, new stories are launched. When the new stories are shot down, Russia relaunches the old stories. Colloquially the process is known as the Fire Hose of Falsehoods.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17#Russian_medi
a_coverage

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Saturday, July 9, 2022 11:47 AM

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If THUGR doesn't comprehend and CAPON spins, SECOND flat-out pumps second-hand propaganda.

The trial looks highly political. Supposedly, authorities have recordings of intercepted communications of the group that fired the missile. Supposedly, there are geolocated photos. Supposedly, the identities of those who actually fired the missile are known.

So, who is on trial, and why?

Well, RUSSIANS, of course!

NOT for firing the missile, or for giving orders to fire the missile, not even for supplying the missile (according to the article quote) but for but for "helping" to supply the missile.
Seems like second-hand responsibility.

So, whatabout the USA supplying missiles to Saudis, who are using them to genocide Yemenis?

I think the charge is as much bullshit as RUSSIA!TRUMP!COLLUSION!- a theater piece for propaganda purposes. The kind of "show trial" that the USSR was infamous for.
That's what the west has been reduced to.

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Saturday, July 9, 2022 12:12 PM

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This is what was reported at the time:

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Here’s a segment of a conversation between an alleged pro-Russian rebel named Major and another identified as Grek, per Ukrainian authorities:

Major: The plane broke into pieces in the air … we have found the first 200 (dead). It’s a civilian.”
Grek: “How are things going there?”
M: “Well, we are 100% sure that it was a civilian plane.”
G: “Are there a lot of people?”
M: “F–k! The debris was falling straight into the yards.”
M: “Here are remnants of internal brackets, chairs, bodies.”
G: “Are there any weapons?”
M: “Nothing at all. Civilian belongings, medical scraps, towels, toilet paper.”

...

In a final segment of the alleged intercepted phone calls, an unidentified militant allegedly speaks with a Russian Cossack, Mykola Kozitsyn.

Militant: “On TV, they say like it is a Ukrainian An-26, a transport plane. But the writing says ‘Malaysia Airlines.’ What was it doing over the territory of Ukraine?”
Kozitsyn: “Well then it was bringing spies. Why the hell were they flying? This is war going on.”

...

One recording, purportedly between the military chief of the separatist Lugansk National Republic and a Russian military intelligence officer, discusses the missile system, called a Buk.
The alleged rebel is heard telling the supposed Russian officer that they hold the Buk.
“Yes, I know that,” the Russian officer responds.

In a separate audio, another alleged Russian military intelligence officer and another rebel military chief discuss where to unload and hide the Buk.

https://www.cnn.com/2014/07/18/world/europe/ukraine-mh17-intercepted-a
udio/index.html

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Saturday, July 9, 2022 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If THUGR doesn't comprehend and CAPON spins, SECOND flat-out pumps second-hand propaganda.

The trial looks highly political. Supposedly, authorities have recordings of intercepted communications of the group that fired the missile. Supposedly, there are geolocated photos. Supposedly, the identities of those who actually fired the missile are known.

Define "political" in this case?

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, who is on tial, and why?

Well, RUSSIANS, of course!

NOT for firing the missile, or for giving orders to fire the missile, not even for supplying the missile (according to the article quote) but for but for "helping" to supply the missile.
Seems like second-hand responsibility.

So, whatabout the USA supplying missiles to Saudis, who are using them to genocide Yemenis?

I think the charge is as much bullshit as RUSSIA!TRUMP!COLLUSION!- a theater piece for propaganda purposes. The kind of "show trial" that the USSR was infamous for.
That's what the west has been reduced to.

The usual dishonesty and weak deflection from Ziggy.

"I think the charge is as much bullshit as RUSSIA!TRUMP!COLLUSION!" That actually is totally true, but keep denying. Use up all the ink you need, it's still going to be true. It's almost Trumpian in your constant complaining about something in the past, like why keep bringing it up? It's not a positive for Russia or Trump.

This one is the funniest and lamest broken parallel argument:
"So, whatabout the USA supplying missiles to Saudis, who are using them to genocide Yemenis?"

Sooooo Russia was and still is in league with the Ukrainian separatists to kill Ukrainians, da? Is the US in league with the Saudis to kill Yemenis? No da.

The truth is no one - including you - know who pushed the button unless someone who was actually there gives them up. I would imagine that would be a death sentence for that person and they know it, so mum's the word. So, lacking that the court used a charge they could prove. If you pay as much attention to news as you say you do, you'd know that is not uncommon in legal cases. Make them pay for what you can charge them with.

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Saturday, July 9, 2022 12:22 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

This thread is full of childish stories told by mentally-deprived propagandists.

Please let it die the quiet death it deserves.

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Saturday, July 9, 2022 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This thread is full of childish stories told by mentally-deprived propagandists.

Please let it die the quiet death it deserves.

Well, since you put it that way...

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Saturday, July 9, 2022 1:43 PM

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SIGNYM:
If THUGR doesn't comprehend and CAPON spins, SECOND flat-out pumps second-hand propaganda.
The trial looks highly political. Supposedly, authorities have recordings of intercepted communications of the group that fired the missile. Supposedly, there are geolocated photos. Supposedly, the identities of those who actually fired the missile are known.

CAPON: Define "political" in this case?

Oh, puhleez. Stop looking pathetic.

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, who is on trial, and why?
Well, RUSSIANS, of course!
NOT for firing the missile, or for giving orders to fire the missile, not even for supplying the missile (according to the article quote) but for but for "helping" to supply the missile.
Seems like second-hand responsibility.

So, whatabout the USA supplying missiles to Saudis, who are using them to genocide Yemenis?
I think the charge is as much bullshit as RUSSIA!TRUMP!COLLUSION!- a theater piece for propaganda purposes. The kind of "show trial" that the USSR was infamous for.
That's what the west has been reduced to.

CAPON: The usual honesty and insight from Ziggy.

FIFY.

Quote:
SIGNYM: I think the charge is as much bullshit as RUSSIA!TRUMP!COLLUSION!"

CAPON: That actually is totally true, but keep denying.

So you agree the charges about TRUMP!RUSSIA!COLLUSION! and the "murder" charges against the Russians are bullshit?
Great!

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CAPON: This one is the funniest and lamest broken parallel argument:
"So, whatabout the USA supplying missiles to Saudis, who are using them to genocide Yemenis?"

Sooooo Russia was and still is in league with the Ukrainian separatists to kill Ukrainians, da?

Military? Yes

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CAPON: Is the US in league with the Saudis to kill Yemenis? No da.

Yes, we are. We not only provide the weapons, we provide training and targeting. When you have to pretend being stupid to make a point ...

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CAPON: The truth is no one - including you - know who pushed the button

But we know who it WASN'T bc they were on the phone, at a distance, with no direct responsibility for what happened.

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CAPON: So, lacking that the court used a charge they could prove...

Against people they know weren't there.

You asked me to define "political" when you provided a pellucidly clear example?

Stop being a moron, moron.

Let this thread die. You look stupider and weaselier with every post.

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Saturday, July 9, 2022 9:58 PM

My my...

What a world of difference a weekend makes.

Oh wait... Nevermind.

Nobody still gives a shit about Russia or Ukraine.

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Sunday, July 10, 2022 9:55 AM

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Inside the Ukrainian resistance

In Kherson, Russian collaborators are being hunted down

BY David Patrikarakos, July 9, 2022

Right now, the global media is filled with talk of the battle for the Donbas. But it is in the south, with its long coastline and large grain stores, where the war for Ukraine will be won or lost. And it is in Kherson, now under Russian occupation, where we will find the answers to so many questions vital to that victory or defeat. Can the Ukrainian army fight back with sufficient effectiveness to retake a major city from the Russians? Can the country hold out while its grain is stolen and its ports are blockaded? And, perhaps most importantly of all, how real and how strong is Ukrainian resistance under Russian occupation?

***

“We need to understand that the situation is different across the region,” Sergiy Danylov, Deputy Director for the Centre of Middle Eastern Studies, tells me. He continues: “The south and west parts of the Kherson region are a catastrophe. There have been mass killings and rapes — it’s a second Bucha there. Some villages were just totally demolished by the Russians.”

More at https://unherd.com/2022/07/inside-the-ukrainian-resistance/

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Sunday, July 10, 2022 12:20 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Inside the Ukrainian resistance

In Kherson, Russian collaborators are being hunted down

BY David Patrikarakos, July 9, 2022

Right now, the global media is filled with talk of the battle for the Donbas. But it is in the south, with its long coastline and large grain stores, where the war for Ukraine will be won or lost. And it is in Kherson, now under Russian occupation, where we will find the answers to so many questions vital to that victory or defeat. Can the Ukrainian army fight back with sufficient effectiveness to retake a major city from the Russians? Can the country hold out while its grain is stolen and its ports are blockaded? And, perhaps most importantly of all, how real and how strong is Ukrainian resistance under Russian occupation?

***

“We need to understand that the situation is different across the region,” Sergiy Danylov, Deputy Director for the Centre of Middle Eastern Studies, tells me. He continues: “The south and west parts of the Kherson region are a catastrophe. There have been mass killings and rapes — it’s a second Bucha there.

Since Bucha was a staged massacre/ false flag, that must mean everything he's saying about Kherson is bullshit too.

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Sunday, July 10, 2022 12:22 PM

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Former CIA analyst for Russian affairs, Ray McGovern, on Ukraine and Russia

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Sunday, July 10, 2022 2:52 PM

I see the Democrats are still cheering on literal Nazis in Ukraine.

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Sunday, July 10, 2022 3:43 PM

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Of all the western analysts out there (Duran, Scott Ritter, Dreizen, Saker, Martyanov etc etc) Larry Johnson has been the most accurate

https://sonar21.com/

I thought this was a funny title:

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Russia Grinds On and Ukraine Chases a Squirrel

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Sunday, July 10, 2022 5:05 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Since Bucha was a staged massacre/ false flag, that must mean everything he's saying about Kherson is bullshit too.

After the Bucha Massacre, Russian soldier Viktor Bulatov wrote on social media “We need to arrange a Bucha in every khokhol* (slur for Ukrainians) city from Kharkiv to Lviv". Today, the authorities in his hometown confirmed that he has been killed in battle by the Ukrainian Army

5:24 PM · Jul 9, 2022·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1545896619484348416

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Warning on cigs in Ukraine now says you should quit smoking so you get to see how Putin dies.

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Sunday, July 10, 2022 8:17 PM

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Warning on cigs in Ukraine now says you should quit smoking so you get to see how Putin dies.

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Hmmm...

I've been smoking for 26 years now.

Phillip Morris must not feel too good about the chances of anything other than natural causes killing Putin.

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Desperate for Recruits, Russia Launches a ‘Stealth Mobilization’

July 10, 2022, 12:01 a.m. ET

Leery of a national draft for the Ukraine war, the Kremlin is offering cash bonuses and employing strong arm tactics.

Four Russian veterans of the war in Ukraine recently published short videos online to complain about what they called their shabby treatment after returning to the Russian region of Chechnya, after six weeks on the battlefield.

One claimed to have been denied a promised payment of nearly $2,000. Another grumbled that a local hospital declined to remove shrapnel lodged in his body.

Their public pleas for help got results, but not the kind they were hoping for. Instead, an aide to Ramzan Kadyrov, the autocrat who runs Chechnya, berated them at length on television as ingrates and forced them to recant. “I was paid much more than they promised,” said Nikolai Lipa, the young Russian who had claimed that he had been cheated.

Ordinarily, these sort of complaints might be ignored, but the swift rebuke underscores how Russian officials want to stamp out any criticism about military service in Ukraine. They need more soldiers, desperately, and are already using what some analysts call a ‘‘stealth mobilization’’ to bring in new recruits without resorting to a politically risky national draft.

To make up the manpower shortfall, the Kremlin is relying on a combination of impoverished ethnic minorities, Ukrainians from the separatist territories, mercenaries and militarized National Guard units to fight the war, and promising hefty cash incentives for volunteers.

“Russia has a problem with recruitment and mobilization,” said Kamil Galeev, an independent Russian analyst and former fellow at The Wilson Center in Washington. “It is basically desperate to get more men using any means possible.”

The numbers of battlefield dead and wounded are closely held secrets on both sides. The British military recently estimated the number of dead Russians at 25,000, with tens of thousands more wounded, out of an invasion force of 300,000, including support units.

Yet, President Vladimir V. Putin hobbled the mobilization effort from the beginning, experts said, by refusing to put Russia on a war footing that would have allowed the military to start calling up reserves. Hence, the Kremlin has tried to glue together replacement battalions through other means.

Avoiding a draft for all adult males allows the Kremlin to maintain the fiction that the war is a limited “special military operation,” while also minimizing the risk of the kind of public backlash that spurred the end of previous Russian military debacles, like the one in Afghanistan and the first Chechen war.

The public outcry after Chechnya prompted Russia to ban the use on the battlefield of raw recruits, men aged 18-27 who are required to complete a year of mandatory military service. The revelations that hundreds were deployed in Ukraine anyway, including some of the sailors who died when the Ukrainians sank the Moskva, the flagship of the Black Sea fleet, prompted the very outrage from parents that the Kremlin had sought to avoid.

Numerous analysts have raised doubts about how long Russia can sustain its offensive in Ukraine without a general mobilization. Igor Girkin, a military analyst and a frequent critic of the Ukraine strategy, has said that Russia cannot possibly conquer the entire country without one.

But the Kremlin seems determined to avoid taking such a drastic step. Instead, recruitment offices have resorted to calling reservists repeatedly to offer cash incentives for short deployments. Online want ads placed by the regional recruitment offices of the Ministry of Defense also overflow with thousands of postings for those with military specialties. Recent listings on global job sites like Head Hunter included units looking for combat engineers, anyone who could operate a grenade launcher and even the commander for a parachute squadron.

The salaries offered to some volunteers, which can range between $2,000 and $6,000 a month, are far more than the average monthly salary in Russia of about $700. Prewar contracts for privates sometimes were as paltry as around $200 a month.

Enthusiasm for the war inspires some volunteers, experts noted, while workers in industrial regions hit by factory closings because of sanctions might also find the money attractive.

“Mostly, of course, it is a way of earning money,” said Sergei Krivenko, director of the Russian human rights organization Citizen Army Law. Many, especially older volunteers, have substantial debts, he and others said. A May law scrapped the age limit of 40 for contract soldiers.

Such piecemeal efforts sustain the war, but do not address the fundamental manpower deficit, analysts said. While Ukraine faces similar problems, what it lacks in professional soldiers it compensates for in enthusiastic volunteers, they said.

The online Russian ads avoid mentioning Ukraine, and the short-term offers, often three months, are meant to play down the risks of never coming home. “It may be that it is necessary to get them into the army, and when they are already in the army, figure out what to do,” said Mr. Galeev.

The high death toll among soldiers from poorer republics populated by ethnic minorities, like Dagestan in the Caucasus and Buryatia in southern Siberia, indicate that they fill the front ranks in disproportionate numbers. Statistics, compiled by MediaZona, an independent news outlet, from public sources, show 225 dead in Dagestan through June, along with 185 in Buryatia, compared to nine from Moscow and 30 from St. Petersburg.

Minority conscripts in particular are pressured to sign contracts. “They tell them that if they return to their hometown, they will not find any job, so it is better to stay in the army to earn money,” said Vladimir Budaev, a spokesman for the Free Buryatia Foundation, an antiwar group abroad for the Buryats, an Indigenous minority.

Units from Rosgvardia, the militarized National Guard, have been deployed to Ukraine, and it apparently has sufficient numbers for rotations. But there do not seem to be enough regular soldiers for rotations. A group of about 15 women from Buryatia recently posted a video online complaining that their male relatives and friends had been deployed without leave since January.

In 2013, Mr. Kadyrov, Chechnya’s strongman ruler, established a private training institute now called the Russian University of Special Forces. Given his role in helping to defeat Chechen separatists, Mr. Kadyrov has long been granted wider latitude than any other regional leader to field his own armed men. Since the war, he has used his training center as a vehicle to recruit not just Chechens, but men throughout Russia.

Reports have also emerged from Chechnya that war critics or men arrested for petty crimes are often beaten, then forced to either sign a contract to fight in Ukraine or pay a bribe.

Mr. Kadyrov has pledged to pay almost $6,000 to volunteers who sign a three-month contract, supplementing the $53 a day promised by the Russian Ministry of Defense.

Mr. Kadyrov’s aide, Mogamed Daudov, while berating the four men who produced the video complaining about their treatment, claimed that they were the only four who expressed dissatisfaction out of what he said were more than 3,200 volunteers deployed to Ukraine from Chechnya.

Other volunteers featured on Chechen television have praised exercises in shooting, urban warfare and other techniques. By all accounts, however, the training lasts about a week, which analysts consider woefully inadequate.

One longstanding taboo is being tossed aside in the quest for soldiers.

The authorities in Chechnya, Dagestan and Ingushetia have announced that they will form regiments made up entirely of men from the region, apparently in hopes that local nationalism would inspire more volunteers. The military has avoided that kind of recruitment since czarist times out of fear of fostering separatist movements.

In the battle for Luhansk and Donetsk in the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine, the Russian military has done away with niceties like cash bonuses. Conscription is mandatory for men aged between 18 and 65 in areas under Russian control, and frontline fighters there are mainly local conscripts.

Since they are Ukrainian citizens, the thousands of dead and wounded have minimal impact in Russia, so the Kremlin is particularly cavalier about their casualties, experts say.

Some have been grabbed right off the streets and dispatched to the trenches with little or no training and vintage guns, military analysts and relatives have said. “It is the colonial model of locals being used as cannon fodder,” Mr. Galeev said.

The ombudsman for the Donetsk People’s Republic, a pseudo-statelet created by Russia, wrote on his Telegram channel in early June that 2,061 of its men had been killed and 8,509 wounded from a force of 20,000 at the start of the invasion, a staggering percentage.

The riskiest technical operations on the battlefield are often assigned to experienced mercenaries under contract to Wagner or similar private commercial operations, analysts said. Wagner gained prominence as the organization deployed to help implement Russian foreign policy goals in Syria and various African nations.

It too has reportedly been casting about for willing recruits. In St. Petersburg, Wagner convinced several dozen prisoners to sign six-month contracts to fight in exchange for about $4,000 and amnesty if they come back alive, according to the independent news outlet Important Stories.

The armies of many countries faced with similar gaps in manpower and other problems might have collapsed, said Johan Norberg, one of the authors of a recent report on the war called “A Rude Awakening,” by the Swedish Defense Research Agency.

“All these groups are unlikely to contribute to a decisive Russian win,” he said, referring to those recruited. “But they can help maintain Russia’s current positions and possibly allow for some minor tactical advances, for example, in Donbas.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20220710111428/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/07/10/world/europe/russia-recruits-ukraine-war.html

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Warning on cigs in Ukraine now says you should quit smoking so you get to see how Putin dies.

5:02 AM · Jul 9, 2022·Twitter for Android
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Hmmm...

I've been smoking for 26 years now.

Phillip Morris must not feel too good about the chances of anything other than natural causes killing Putin.

67 percent
The study of more than 200,000 people, published in BMC medicine, found about 67 percent of smokers perished from smoking-related illness. That rate is higher than doctors previously estimated.
Feb 26, 2015

https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-015-0281
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Sunday, July 10, 2022 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Warning on cigs in Ukraine now says you should quit smoking so you get to see how Putin dies.

5:02 AM · Jul 9, 2022·Twitter for Android
https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/1545710060525047809

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Hmmm...

I've been smoking for 26 years now.

Phillip Morris must not feel too good about the chances of anything other than natural causes killing Putin.
67 percent
The study of more than 200,000 people, published in BMC medicine, found about 67 percent of smokers perished from smoking-related illness. That rate is higher than doctors previously estimated.
Feb 26, 2015

https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-015-0281
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Oh. I'm not telling you that smoking doesn't kill people, dummy.

It's a LONG burn though.

https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/news/2017/37/heavy-smokers-cut-their-lifespan
-by-13-years-on-average

Quote:
The average lifespan of heavy smokers (smoking more than twenty cigarettes per day) is 13 years shorter than that of non-smokers.

The average lifespan in Ukraine is 71.83 years.

Let's call it 59 years for heavy smokers then.

Putin is 69 years old now.

The average age of Russians is 73.08 years.

Is tracksuit cocksucker Zelinsky going to get Putin before he dies of old age?

Chances are that even a 55 year old smoker in Ukraine is going to know the answer to that whether they quit or not.

Meanwhile, Democrats won't have any power in 4 months, so the war on Russia is going to end anyhow.

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Sunday, July 10, 2022 11:48 PM

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SIGNYM:
Since Bucha was a staged massacre/ false flag, that must mean everything he's saying about Kherson is bullshit too.

SECOND: After the Bucha Massacre*, Russian soldier Viktor Bulatov

was he even there?

Quote:
wrote on social media

Using what? His dick? Russian soldiers aren't allowed personal phones while fighting

Quote:
“We need to arrange a Bucha in every khokhol* (slur for Ukrainians) city from Kharkiv to Lviv". Today, the authorities in his hometown confirmed that he has been killed in battle by the Ukrainian Army

Quote:
Ukraine Official Fired Over Handling of Russian Sexual Assault Claims

https://www.newsweek.com/lyudmila-denisova-ukraine-commissioner-human-
rights-removed-russian-sexual-assault-claims-1711680

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Monday, July 11, 2022 12:16 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Russia is using only a fraction of it's army in Ukraine. Some analysts say 20pct, others put the figure at 8pct.

All Russia has to do is deploy more of it's military to Ukraine.

AFA Ukraine/ NATO/ the combined west "winning" in Ukraine, Putin said, of Russian capability, (and I paraphrase) "You ain't seen nothing yet".

*****

I'm NOT "pro-Russian", as CAPON characterized me, just as I'm not "pro Trump".

But I'm allergic to lies, propaganda, and stupidity. Lying to others all the time, eventually you believe your own lies. Look at SECOND: He's twisted his brain into knots believing all of the contradictory lies that he slurps up elsewhere and shits out here.

Lying to yourself: Is that any way to live in the real world?

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Monday, July 11, 2022 5:57 AM

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Senior officers from the fifth brigade of the Special Forces warned in an open letter to Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko against sending troops to fight in Ukraine, describing that such decision is "pure suicide".

"By entering the war against Ukraine, Belarus will be evicted from the community of civilized states and will be an international outcast for many years to come," the military officers wrote.

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-ally-lukashenko-faces-revolt-officers-a
gainst-ukraine-war-1723224

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Monday, July 11, 2022 11:33 AM

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Russia going backwards.

https://bit.ly/3AGLjuA

Moscow councillor jailed for seven years after criticising Ukraine war

Alexei Gorinov receives first long-term sentence under harsh laws introduced since Russian invasion

A court in Moscow has sentenced an opposition councillor to seven years in jail for criticising Russia’s military actions in Ukraine, the first prison sentence handed out under the new laws that restrict criticism of the war.

Alexei Gorinov, a deputy at Moscow’s Krasnoselsky district council and trained lawyer, was arrested in April on charges of spreading “knowingly false information” about the Russian army.

According to the authorities, Gorinov committed the offence when he and a fellow opposition deputy, Elena Kotenochkina, spoke out against the council’s proposal to hold a children’s drawing contest and a dancing festival despite the war in Ukraine, where Gorinov said “children were dying”.

“I believe all efforts of [Russian] civil society should be aimed only at stopping the war and withdrawing Russian troops from the territory of Ukraine,” Gorinov said during the work meeting, which was recorded on video and is available on YouTube.

In a closing statement on Thursday, Gorinov said he was innocent, pointing to his rights to free expression under the Russian constitution, while also repeating his criticism of the “vile” war in Ukraine.

< Love this guy's stones: >

“War, whatever synonym you call it, is the last, dirtiest, vile thing, unworthy of the title of a man,” Gorinov said. “I thought that Russia exhausted its limit on wars back in the 20th century. However, our present is Bucha, Irpin, and Hostomel. Do these names mean something to you? You, the accusers – take an interest and do not say later that you did not know anything,” he added, referring to the three cities outside Kyiv where Russian troops are accused of committing war crimes.

Among those awaiting trial for spreading “false information” about Russia’s military is the prominent opposition activist Vladimir Kara-Murza and the St Petersburg-based artist Alexandra Skochilenko, who is accused of replacing supermarket price labels with messages protesting against Moscow’s military campaign in Ukraine.

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Monday, July 11, 2022 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Russia is using only a fraction of it's army in Ukraine. Some analysts say 20pct, others put the figure at 8pct.

All Russia has to do is deploy more of it's military to Ukraine.

AFA Ukraine/ NATO/ the combined west "winning" in Ukraine, Putin said, of Russian capability, (and I paraphrase) "You ain't seen nothing yet".

*****

I'm NOT "pro-Russian", as CAPON characterized me, just as I'm not "pro Trump".

But I'm allergic to lies, propaganda, and stupidity. Lying to others all the time, eventually you believe your own lies. Look at SECOND: He's twisted his brain into knots believing all of the contradictory lies that he slurps up elsewhere and shits out here.

Lying to yourself: Is that any way to live in the real world?

^ Ziggy inspired by the school of Jack: say the dumbest sht you can because you're desperate for attention. ANY attention.

"Not using all their forces" You should contact Russian HQ and let them know to send more guys - I don't think they've thought of that yet.

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Monday, July 11, 2022 1:00 PM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Russia is using only a fraction of it's army in Ukraine. Some analysts say 20pct, others put the figure at 8pct.

All Russia has to do is deploy more of it's military to Ukraine.

AFA Ukraine/ NATO/ the combined west "winning" in Ukraine, Putin said, of Russian capability, (and I paraphrase) "You ain't seen nothing yet".

*****

I'm NOT "pro-Russian", as CAPON characterized me, just as I'm not "pro Trump".

But I'm allergic to lies, propaganda, and stupidity. Lying to others all the time, eventually you believe your own lies. Look at SECOND: He's twisted his brain into knots believing all of the contradictory lies that he slurps up elsewhere and shits out here.

Lying to yourself: Is that any way to live in the real world?

^ Ziggy inspired by the school of Jack: say the dumbest sht you can because you're desperate for attention. ANY attention.

"Not using all their forces" You should contact Russian HQ and let them know to send more guys - I don't think they've thought of that yet.

More lies, propaganda, and stupidity from CAPON.

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Monday, July 11, 2022 2:48 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

^ Ziggy inspired by the school of Jack: say the dumbest sht you can because you're desperate for attention. ANY attention.

"Not using all their forces" You should contact Russian HQ and let them know to send more guys - I don't think they've thought of that yet.
More lies, propaganda, and stupidity from CAPON.

I notice how you skip right past the unflattering facts posted about Russia so you can post the usual... nothing.

Let me help - I'll repost:

Russia going backwards.

https://bit.ly/3AGLjuA

Moscow councillor jailed for seven years after criticising Ukraine war

Alexei Gorinov receives first long-term sentence under harsh laws introduced since Russian invasion

A court in Moscow has sentenced an opposition councillor to seven years in jail for criticising Russia’s military actions in Ukraine, the first prison sentence handed out under the new laws that restrict criticism of the war.

Alexei Gorinov, a deputy at Moscow’s Krasnoselsky district council and trained lawyer, was arrested in April on charges of spreading “knowingly false information” about the Russian army.

According to the authorities, Gorinov committed the offence when he and a fellow opposition deputy, Elena Kotenochkina, spoke out against the council’s proposal to hold a children’s drawing contest and a dancing festival despite the war in Ukraine, where Gorinov said “children were dying”.

“I believe all efforts of [Russian] civil society should be aimed only at stopping the war and withdrawing Russian troops from the territory of Ukraine,” Gorinov said during the work meeting, which was recorded on video and is available on YouTube.

In a closing statement on Thursday, Gorinov said he was innocent, pointing to his rights to free expression under the Russian constitution, while also repeating his criticism of the “vile” war in Ukraine.

< Love this guy's stones: >

“War, whatever synonym you call it, is the last, dirtiest, vile thing, unworthy of the title of a man,” Gorinov said. “I thought that Russia exhausted its limit on wars back in the 20th century. However, our present is Bucha, Irpin, and Hostomel. Do these names mean something to you? You, the accusers – take an interest and do not say later that you did not know anything,” he added, referring to the three cities outside Kyiv where Russian troops are accused of committing war crimes.

Among those awaiting trial for spreading “false information” about Russia’s military is the prominent opposition activist Vladimir Kara-Murza and the St Petersburg-based artist Alexandra Skochilenko, who is accused of replacing supermarket price labels with messages protesting against Moscow’s military campaign in Ukraine.

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Monday, July 11, 2022 4:20 PM

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Quote:
However, our present is Bucha, Irpin, and Hostomel.

I imagine this is what got him in trouble. He's accusing the Russian army of committing atrocities.

I'm not about to defend Russia's internal policies. Here we have freedom of speech. Well, technically, anyway, altho don't ask the Jan 6 protesters!

There, they don't even have the legal fiction.

That's one reason not to be pro-Russian. OTOH I don't put up with the lies, propaganda, bullying, bullshit, censorship, and rah-rah-ism here either.

Why do you?

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Russian Oligarchs Who Died Mysteriously This Year Have Two Things in Common

Since the start of the year, at least seven Russian oligarchs have been found dead under mysterious circumstances in a grim trend happening alongside the ongoing Russia-Ukraine War.

https://www.newsweek.com/russian-oligarchs-found-dead-all-have-2-thing
s-common-1705780

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Monday, July 11, 2022 8:05 PM

Nobody cares.

How much did you pay for gas today?

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.

How much did you pay for gas today?

Prices were $3.69 to $3.79
https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/texas/houston

You can see past prices adjusted for inflation at https://imgur.com/gallery/sS5fBtS

1929 $3.59/gallon gasoline
1933 $4.13
1980 $4.25
1981 $4.25
2012 $4.57

Average Price: Gasoline, Unleaded Regular (NOT adjusted for inflation)
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=RChu

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Monday, July 11, 2022 10:37 PM

Hehe.

Keep pretending that all is well dude.

They were regularly $2.30 under Trump for 4 years, and they didn't drive up the cost of every other fucking thing too.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hehe.

Keep pretending that all is well dude.

They were regularly $2.30 under Trump for 4 years, and they didn't drive up the cost of every other fucking thing too.

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Fox News is now saying that gas prices are falling too fast, with a host saying that this decline is “historically faster than usual” which is causing “independently-owned mom-and-pop gas stations” to “struggle.”
2:40 PM · Jul 11, 2022·Twitter Web App

Here is the clip.
https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1546580272698822657

6ix, you keep reminding me that high prices are VERY GOOD for sellers. It is only BAD for buyers, but if you're a seller, why would you care what happens to buyers? And how is the President gonna force sellers to care? How? I really want to know how you think prices are set, 6ix. (Since sellers set the price, they set it to whatever is best for themselves, never what is best for buyers. Never. Never have. Never will. What is best for sellers is what is worst for buyers, just so you know.)

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Monday, July 11, 2022 11:06 PM

I don't watch FOX News. I don't give a shit what FOX News says.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't watch FOX News. I don't give a shit what FOX News says.

FOX doesn't tell you what to think. Instead, FOX repeats back to the audience what their audience already thinks: Democrats caused all my problems. Prices go down? Democrats caused that problem.

If Trump were President, FOX would say Trump caused the prices to go down, but that is not how prices work. FOX and Trump also said there would not be war in Ukraine if Trump were President. Then FOX and Trump said Ukraine would have already won if Trump were President, but that, too, is not how war works. The message is always the same: Democrats are the problem.

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Tuesday, July 12, 2022 8:06 AM

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Here we have freedom of speech. Well, technically, anyway, altho don't ask the Jan 6 protesters!

The fact that you know so little about the "protest" is telling.

"peacefully assemble?" No, violence with intent. Do I have to show the violence some of the Jan 6 Trump mob committed inside the capital?

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:

OTOH I don't put up with the lies, propaganda, bullying, bullshit, censorship, and rah-rah-ism here either.

Why do you?

I can't stop you from typing what you type. I can only challenge it, show the inconsistencies, lies, deflections and false claims and hope others recognize it for what it is.

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Tuesday, July 12, 2022 10:05 AM

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Comrade Signym refuses to acknowledge G, that Jan. 6th is about riots and a coup attempt, not protests. And let's not forget the obvious reasons why she refuses to admit this. She is Russian.

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Tuesday, July 12, 2022 11:08 AM