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Monday, March 26, 2018 2:16 PM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by second:

"But my own preference would be that he not be impeached, but that he be able to serve out his term, because I think he wants to do a good job. And I'm willing to help him, if I can help him, and give him the benefit of the doubt."




I should have more respect for the elderly, but having been around so many for so many years all I can think of is: what a sap.

I think I'm with Carter on this, but my reasons are cruder than his.

If Trump is impeached and removed, which will require the extremely unlikely cooperation of the GOP, Mike Pence will pardon him of everything for all eternity. Trump won't get the jail time he probably deserves. If Trump fulfills his term, he will likely be replaced by a Democrat, who will hopefully not be foolish enough to pardon Trump. Without a pardon from the next President, Trump will spend the rest of his life fighting charges that Robert Mueller brings against him. Probably the first fight will be over the constitutionality of Trump pardoning himself on his last day in office in 2021. I believe Trump will lose that fight, but he will take it all the way to the Supreme Court, thus delaying for years him getting the brutal justice he deserves.

I'm not sure what felony, if any, Trump has committed, but I'd bet on billions, not millions, of dollars worth in tax evasion. That's why he so secretive about his tax returns and why he declared that Mueller must not investigate the Trump companies.

All I can tell for now is that Trump is one dizzy, flaky, crooked loudmouth, while Pence could be seriously capable of doing more harm to America than Trump will do on his best day. (or is it his worst day?)

Just having Trump in the White House might be good for the Democrats. More of them will probably show up to vote in 2018 and 2020 just because Trump is such a fat-ass fool. If nice, calm, competent Pence is President, the Democrats will probably stay home, while the angry, vengeful Republicans will have their biggest turnout of the century, trying to destroy the Democrats for removing Trump.

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Monday, March 26, 2018 2:21 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Any evidence yet?

Nope.

I'll be checking back later.




So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

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Monday, March 26, 2018 2:35 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Any evidence yet?

Nope.

I'll be checking back later.




So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?
That Trump will not share his tax returns is evidence that he committed felony tax evasion. If 1kiki wasn't such a fucking idiot, she'd know that about the 1 Percenters and their lawlessness. They do have tax returns, but their tax returns are full of lies and misdirection. The IRS can't catch them because its auditing budget is kept small by the GOP Congressmen. Robert Mueller will be able to get around the restrictions on auditing Trump because Mueller's budget is not attached to the IRS budget for tax audits.

In the United States, the IRS estimate of the 2001 tax gap was $345 billion. For 2006, the tax gap is estimated to be $450 billion. A more recent study estimates the 2008 tax gap in the range of $450 to $500 billion, and unreported income to be approximately $2 trillion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_evasion_in_the_United_States

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Monday, March 26, 2018 3:11 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


You have a very scrambled notion of 'evidence'. Aside from conjecture, to complete your ignorance I suggest you also include fiction, gossip and claims as well.

Any evidence yet?

Nope.

I'll be checking back later.




So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

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Monday, March 26, 2018 3:58 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Any evidence yet?

Nope.

I'll be checking back later.

So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

That Trump will not share his tax returns is evidence that he committed felony tax evasion. If 1kiki wasn't such a fucking idiot, she'd know that about the 1 Percenters and their lawlessness. They do have tax returns, but their tax returns are full of lies and misdirection. The IRS can't catch them because its auditing budget is kept small by the GOP Congressmen. Robert Mueller will be able to get around the restrictions on auditing Trump because Mueller's budget is not attached to the IRS budget for tax audits.

In the United States, the IRS estimate of the 2001 tax gap was $345 billion. For 2006, the tax gap is estimated to be $450 billion. A more recent study estimates the 2008 tax gap in the range of $450 to $500 billion, and unreported income to be approximately $2 trillion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_evasion_in_the_United_States


That Obama did not share his Birth Certificate before being sworn in proves he defrauded the Government as a candidate unqualified for the office.

That Clinton did not share his Medical Records proves his dementia from syphillis rendered him unqualified for the office.


Still No Evidence of Trump!! Russia!! Collusion!! Yet?

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Monday, March 26, 2018 4:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
You have a very scrambled notion of 'evidence'. Aside from conjecture, to complete your ignorance I suggest you also include fiction, gossip and claims as well.

Any evidence yet?

Nope.

I'll be checking back later.




So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?
The way things are going now, the GOP Congress does not care to know what the Truth is about Trump. They could force it out of him, if only they would use their subpoena power. Not gonna happen.

1kiki, politics is not scientific discovery. If it was, the politicians in Congress would turn the President over to scientists who would strap Trump to an electric chair like he was a big monkey in an experiment and they'd zap the hell out of him every time he gave an answer that can't be verified by looking at his tax returns. Trump has a low pain threshold. Pretty damn quick we would get to either the Truth or Trump dead from a heart attack and Mike Pence would be the next President. I'd prefer the Truth over Prez Pence.

Trump is pro-torture, which makes torturing Trump perfectly justifiable for Congress. He says it works, so let it work on him.
www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/trump-torture/514463/

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Monday, March 26, 2018 5:55 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Not only do you have a fictional notion about evidence, you have strange, Mengele ideas about science. As for subpoenas, your hero Mueller holds that power, which, to date, he's refused to exercise for some strange reason. Mueller may not be the truth-seeker you're looking for.

Meanwhile, any evidence yet?

Nope.

I'll be checking back later.






So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

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Monday, March 26, 2018 8:18 PM

THGRRI


All of the Russian diplomats expelled by the West over the UK spy poisoning scandal

https://qz.com/1237419/the-us-expelled-60-russian-diplomats-alongside-
15-european-countries
/

Oops


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Monday, March 26, 2018 9:43 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
All of the Russian diplomats expelled by the West over the UK spy poisoning scandal

https://qz.com/1237419/the-us-expelled-60-russian-diplomats-alongside-
15-european-countries
/

Oops

T

Can you not read? Can you not comprehend? What does this have to do with the topic of this thread?


Obviously, Still No Evidence.


For those not following, this thread was posted after the original got shitted up by Libtards, which itself was posted as a summary of pertinent info from the thread they also shitted up.

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Thursday, March 29, 2018 3:08 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


This is slightly off the topic of No Evidence, but doesn't really fit in the shitted-up opposite threads.

Perhaps it should be a separate thread.

Sounds like Manafort's lawyers are pursuing a legal challenge which should have been done long ago.

AG Sessions, Appointed and Confirmed by Senate, recused himself soley and specifically on the subject of Trump-Russia Collusion.

He appointed Deputy AG Rosenstein (not a Cabinet Member or Line-of-Succession Office) to appoint a Special Counsel for the specific issue which Sessions recused himself.

Rosenstein, acting AG for this sole specific subject, appointed Mueller and has clearly stated several times that any expansion of Investigation must be approved by himself, Rosenstein.

Either Mueller has secured the approval from Rosenstein on each expanded Witch Hunt Fishing Expedition, or Mueller did such without approval and Rosenstein neglected and failed to corral him in, failing to curtail the ever widening Witch Hunt into areas which the actual AG Sessions never refused himself from.

Thus, Rosenstein has effectively annointed himself defacto AG, outside of his Constitutional Authority.

So nothing Mueller has Investigated, outside of nonexistent Trump-Russia Collusion, or brought charges for (none of which is related to Trump-Russia Collusion) has any merit or Authority.


Sessions had recused himself specifically from the Trump-Russia Collusion Investigation because he had been an advisor and surrogate for the 2016 Trump Campaign. He did not recuse himself from any tax or IRS matter, or any business dealings from before the campaign, or any misstatements uttered by subordinates, or anything that the SC has filed charges about, or convened Grand Juries about.

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Thursday, March 29, 2018 5:14 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

So nothing Mueller has Investigated, outside of nonexistent Trump-Russia Collusion, or brought charges for (none of which is related to Trump-Russia Collusion) has any merit or Authority.



I'll admit that it's over my head what you are saying here.

Is this an idea that dawned on you while you were sleeping one night, or do you have some citations for this stuff?


That would be great if this was proven as a lot of high profile government people could be jailed for it, but at the same time I'd like this thing to go to fruition now. A lot of time and taxpayer dollars have been poured into it, and simply killing the investigation over technicalities like this, or just replacing them with people who will do whatever Trump says is not really an option.

Remember. Anything that Trump "gets away with" now is going to be something that the next Democratic President can get away with in the future.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:01 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

So nothing Mueller has Investigated, outside of nonexistent Trump-Russia Collusion, or brought charges for (none of which is related to Trump-Russia Collusion) has any merit or Authority.

I'll admit that it's over my head what you are saying here.

Is this an idea that dawned on you while you were sleeping one night, or do you have some citations for this stuff?


That would be great if this was proven as a lot of high profile government people could be jailed for it, but at the same time I'd like this thing to go to fruition now. A lot of time and taxpayer dollars have been poured into it, and simply killing the investigation over technicalities like this, or just replacing them with people who will do whatever Trump says is not really an option.

Remember. Anything that Trump "gets away with" now is going to be something that the next Democratic President can get away with in the future.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

This is from Manafort's lawyers, I presume some Legal Documents filed, likely with SCOTUS, being a Constitutional violation.
Lawyer Kevin Downing.

Using search terms "Manafort lawyers file supreme court" at DuckDuckGo produced some results. The ones dated 27 March look right.
Feel free to post some linkies if you can.

Remember, anything that Mueller gets away with now is going to be something that the next dirty filthy crooked weasel can get away with in the future.
And the massive waste of time and taxdollars spent, mostly outside the purview and mandate, won't be wasted the next time if it is adequately and rightly squashed this time.

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Thursday, March 29, 2018 7:18 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
This is from Manafort's lawyers, I presume some Legal Documents filed, likely with SCOTUS, being a Constitutional violation.
Lawyer Kevin Downing.

Using search terms "Manafort lawyers file supreme court" at DuckDuckGo produced some results. The ones dated 27 March look right.
Feel free to post some linkies if you can.

Remember, anything that Mueller gets away with now is going to be something that the next dirty filthy crooked weasel can get away with in the future.
And the massive waste of time and taxdollars spent, mostly outside the purview and mandate, won't be wasted the next time if it is adequately and rightly squashed this time.



Oh... you can bet I'm not arguing that any of the crooks here shouldn't go down. I'm all for sending a message about trying this again if it's not on the complete up and up if it is determined that laws were broken.

That being said, at this point a legitimate investigation needs to take place. Ending it now or sticking in cronies that are just going to cover things up won't do Trump or the Republican party any good, and will set a precedent that says it's okay for these people in high offices to do whatever the fuck they want.

I'm not even convinced that Trump didn't do something bad. I don't really think he did because of the sources the allegations are coming from, but it's always possible.

It would be nice to know one way or another at some point in our lifetimes. Preferably today or tomorrow at the latest.

Fucking bureaucratic incompetence.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, March 29, 2018 7:44 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
This is from Manafort's lawyers, I presume some Legal Documents filed, likely with SCOTUS, being a Constitutional violation.
Lawyer Kevin Downing.

Using search terms "Manafort lawyers file supreme court" at DuckDuckGo produced some results. The ones dated 27 March look right.
Feel free to post some linkies if you can.

Remember, anything that Mueller gets away with now is going to be something that the next dirty filthy crooked weasel can get away with in the future.
And the massive waste of time and taxdollars spent, mostly outside the purview and mandate, won't be wasted the next time if it is adequately and rightly squashed this time.

Oh... you can bet I'm not arguing that any of the crooks here shouldn't go down. I'm all for sending a message about trying this again if it's not on the complete up and up if it is determined that laws were broken.

That being said, at this point a legitimate investigation needs to take place. Ending it now or sticking in cronies that are just going to cover things up won't do Trump or the Republican party any good, and will set a precedent that says it's okay for these people in high offices to do whatever the fuck they want.

I'm not even convinced that Trump didn't do something bad. I don't really think he did because of the sources the allegations are coming from, but it's always possible.

It would be nice to know one way or another at some point in our lifetimes. Preferably today or tomorrow at the latest.

Fucking bureaucratic incompetence.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Well, if you insist upon every Jaywalking violation and littering citation of every person who was the assistant to the Deputy aide of Trump's cousin being tracked down, then you are effectively saying that you want all of Hilliary's and Obama's crimes to be ignored, with no further resources expended.

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Thursday, March 29, 2018 8:18 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Well, if you insist upon every Jaywalking violation and littering citation of every person who was the assistant to the Deputy aide of Trump's cousin being tracked down, then you are effectively saying that you want all of Hilliary's and Obama's crimes to be ignored, with no further resources expended.



No. I didn't.

There is no reason these two things need to be mutually exclusive.

They have more than enough employees and our tax dollars to do the job. If they can't do the fucking jobs they're paid good money and nice pensions to get done, then they should be fired.

Fucking government employees are worthless at every level. They'd never make it in the private sector.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, March 29, 2018 1:10 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Well, if you insist upon every Jaywalking violation and littering citation of every person who was the assistant to the Deputy aide of Trump's cousin being tracked down, then you are effectively saying that you want all of Hilliary's and Obama's crimes to be ignored, with no further resources expended.

No. I didn't.

There is no reason these two things need to be mutually exclusive.

They have more than enough employees and our tax dollars to do the job. If they can't do the fucking jobs they're paid good money and nice pensions to get done, then they should be fired.

Fucking government employees are worthless at every level. They'd never make it in the private sector.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

But MSM cannot manage both. Once the Jaywalking bystander is covered intensely 24/7, then Kardashians, King James, Twin Chains, and psychotropic drugged Spree Killers fill the rest of attention span - no room for checking on Actual crimes.

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Thursday, March 29, 2018 1:34 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
This is slightly off the topic of No Evidence, but doesn't really fit in the shitted-up opposite threads.

Perhaps it should be a separate thread.

Sounds like Manafort's lawyers are pursuing a legal challenge which should have been done long ago.

AG Sessions, Appointed and Confirmed by Senate, recused himself soley and specifically on the subject of Trump-Russia Collusion.

He appointed Deputy AG Rosenstein (not a Cabinet Member or Line-of-Succession Office) to appoint a Special Counsel for the specific issue which Sessions recused himself.

Rosenstein, acting AG for this sole specific subject, appointed Mueller and has clearly stated several times that any expansion of Investigation must be approved by himself, Rosenstein.

Either Mueller has secured the approval from Rosenstein on each expanded Witch Hunt Fishing Expedition, or Mueller did such without approval and Rosenstein neglected and failed to corral him in, failing to curtail the ever widening Witch Hunt into areas which the actual AG Sessions never refused himself from.

Thus, Rosenstein has effectively annointed himself defacto AG, outside of his Constitutional Authority.

So nothing Mueller has Investigated, outside of nonexistent Trump-Russia Collusion, or brought charges for (none of which is related to Trump-Russia Collusion) has any merit or Authority.


Sessions had recused himself specifically from the Trump-Russia Collusion Investigation because he had been an advisor and surrogate for the 2016 Trump Campaign. He did not recuse himself from any tax or IRS matter, or any business dealings from before the campaign, or any misstatements uttered by subordinates, or anything that the SC has filed charges about, or convened Grand Juries about.

A little correction or added info.
The Manafort charges stem from February 2014 (which Sessions did not recuse himself from), when nobody - including FBI - filed any charges at that time, or until 4 years later under a separate Investigation. Only the highly partisan Mueller chose to dig for excuses to continue and expand his Witch Hunt. Perhaps he can next bring charges in the JFK Assassination.

At the time of that interview, Manafort was under the Virginia Court District, but Mueller operates under the Washington District(which gifts him anything he wants). By having 2 different Federal Judges ruling opposite, the lawyers hope to appeal the issue to SCOTUS.

The filing points out that Mueller's Investigation has become unmoored from the limited Authority which was Granted him to initiate an Investigation on a subject he is no longer focusing on.

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Thursday, March 29, 2018 5:39 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Well, if you insist upon every Jaywalking violation and littering citation of every person who was the assistant to the Deputy aide of Trump's cousin being tracked down, then you are effectively saying that you want all of Hilliary's and Obama's crimes to be ignored, with no further resources expended.

No. I didn't.

There is no reason these two things need to be mutually exclusive.

They have more than enough employees and our tax dollars to do the job. If they can't do the fucking jobs they're paid good money and nice pensions to get done, then they should be fired.

Fucking government employees are worthless at every level. They'd never make it in the private sector.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

But MSM cannot manage both. Once the Jaywalking bystander is covered intensely 24/7, then Kardashians, King James, Twin Chains, and psychotropic drugged Spree Killers fill the rest of attention span - no room for checking on Actual crimes.



Yeah. I was thinking that after I posted actually.

Not only can't the MSM handle both concurrently, but I don't think most Americans with the attention spans of gnats can.


For instance. Russia, Russia, Russia. And those damn fine children that are so much more emotionally mature that we were at their age.

But why the hell have gas prices risen 50 cents in the last two weeks? Don't hear nobody talking about that one at all. Had to look this up

https://www.kiplinger.com/article/business/T019-C000-S010-energy-price
-forecast.html


At least the forecast is that it shouldn't jump up much more by mid summer. But get used to the price that you're seeing at the pump now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, March 30, 2018 8:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

Not only do you have a fictional notion about evidence, you have strange, Mengele ideas about science. As for subpoenas, your hero Mueller holds that power, which, to date, he's refused to exercise for some strange reason. Mueller may not be the truth-seeker you're looking for.

Meanwhile, any evidence yet?

Nope.

I'll be checking back later.

There is no need to check back here at an insignificant website because the Robert Mueller Report, full of the evidence you crave, will be widely announced all over the Internet. There are only two sources of evidence on Trump/Russia:

#1) Ask Trump about Trump/Russia. If anybody knows, it is him, but he has given the same silly "non-evidence" many times by tweeting "No Collusion". Trump will never give believable evidence until he is placed under serious, life-threatening duress. Sadly, the Secret Service won't let that happen. So, we have to get evidence from:

#2) Ask Robert Mueller about Trump/Russia. Mueller is gathering second- and third-hand evidence by asking everybody, including Trump, to tell him about Trump/Russia. Mueller has to use duress on some of his second-hand sources to get them to talk. Happily, the Secret Service is not protecting most of those sources.

For now Mueller has not yet leaked a report about Trump/Russia. Every time 1kiki or JewelStaiteFan writes "No Evidence" what they should write is "No Mueller Report has been issued". Trump is doing what he can (see point #1) to make sure point #2 never happens.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, April 2, 2018 6:43 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


You repeatedly misrepresent what I post. And then spend post after post arguing - not with me - but with the voices in your head. Well, I'm sure you do a better job arguing in the fantasy land you create. But this is REAL WORLD EVENTS.

Why don't you take this opportunity and try and figure out (if you can) where you go so wrong?




So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

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Monday, April 2, 2018 9:19 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
You repeatedly misrepresent what I post. And then spend post after post arguing - not with me - but with the voices in your head. Well, I'm sure you do a better job arguing in the fantasy land you create. But this is REAL WORLD EVENTS.

Why don't you take this opportunity and try and figure out (if you can) where you go so wrong?




So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?



lol. yup.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, April 2, 2018 10:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

Not only do you have a fictional notion about evidence, you have strange, Mengele ideas about science. As for subpoenas, your hero Mueller holds that power, which, to date, he's refused to exercise for some strange reason. Mueller may not be the truth-seeker you're looking for.

Meanwhile, any evidence yet?

Nope.

I'll be checking back later.

There is no need to check back here at an insignificant website because the Robert Mueller Report, full of the evidence you crave, will be widely announced all over the Internet. There are only two sources of evidence on Trump/Russia:

#1) Ask Trump about Trump/Russia. If anybody knows, it is him, but he has given the same silly "non-evidence" many times by tweeting "No Collusion". Trump will never give believable evidence until he is placed under serious, life-threatening duress. Sadly, the Secret Service won't let that happen. So, we have to get evidence from:

#2) Ask Robert Mueller about Trump/Russia. Mueller is gathering second- and third-hand evidence by asking everybody, including Trump, to tell him about Trump/Russia. Mueller has to use duress on some of his second-hand sources to get them to talk. Happily, the Secret Service is not protecting most of those sources.

For now Mueller has not yet leaked a report about Trump/Russia. Every time 1kiki or JewelStaiteFan writes "No Evidence" what they should write is "No Mueller Report has been issued". Trump is doing what he can (see point #1) to make sure point #2 never happens.






Roger Stone’s growing Russia investigation problem — and what it means for Trump

Now the Wall Street Journal has the email in which Stone claimed to Nunberg that he had met with Assange. “I dined with Julian Assange last night,” Stone wrote to Nunberg on Aug. 4, 2016.

The timeline is pretty damning, and the alleged contacts seriously undermine Stone's denials of working with WikiLeaks. The email to Nunberg came three weeks before Stone tweeted that Podesta would soon experience his “time in the barrel.” (Weeks later, Podesta's emails were released by WikiLeaks.) The Post's recent report was the first clear suggestion he had advance knowledge of the Podesta emails.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/roger-stone’s-growing-russia-i
nvestigation-problem-—-and-what-it-means-for-trump/ar-AAvohU2?ocid=spartanntp



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Tuesday, April 3, 2018 5:29 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
You repeatedly misrepresent what I post. And then spend post after post arguing - not with me - but with the voices in your head. Well, I'm sure you do a better job arguing in the fantasy land you create. But this is REAL WORLD EVENTS.

Why don't you take this opportunity and try and figure out (if you can) where you go so wrong?

So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

Looks to me you and I agree there is Still No Evidence.

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Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:36 AM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:

Roger Stone’s growing Russia investigation problem — and what it means for Trump

Now the Wall Street Journal has the email in which Stone claimed to Nunberg that he had met with Assange. “I dined with Julian Assange last night,” Stone wrote to Nunberg on Aug. 4, 2016.



Well I could tell you that Stone had involvement with Assange. No need to look any further than the Alex Jones show for him admitting that himself right around that time frame.

Do you have cites where Stone is denying that now? Because if he says he didn't than I'll back up the claim that he is lying about that.



Thanks for finally putting in the closing italics, btw.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:

Roger Stone’s growing Russia investigation problem — and what it means for Trump

Now the Wall Street Journal has the email in which Stone claimed to Nunberg that he had met with Assange. “I dined with Julian Assange last night,” Stone wrote to Nunberg on Aug. 4, 2016.



Well I could tell you that Stone had involvement with Assange. No need to look any further than the Alex Jones show for him admitting that himself right around that time frame.

Do you have cites where Stone is denying that now? Because if he says he didn't than I'll back up the claim that he is lying about that.

One minute of googling gives:
Quote:

Stone said in an email on August 4, 2016, that he had "dined with Julian Assange last night." However, Stone has denied ever meeting Assange. In a text exchange on Friday before the WSJ report, Stone said he "never met or spoke with Assange ever," and Stone told The Journal the contents of the email were "said in jest."
www.cnn.com/2018/04/02/politics/roger-stone-wikileaks-meeting-special-
counsel/index.html


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Tuesday, April 3, 2018 9:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:

Roger Stone’s growing Russia investigation problem — and what it means for Trump

Now the Wall Street Journal has the email in which Stone claimed to Nunberg that he had met with Assange. “I dined with Julian Assange last night,” Stone wrote to Nunberg on Aug. 4, 2016.



Well I could tell you that Stone had involvement with Assange. No need to look any further than the Alex Jones show for him admitting that himself right around that time frame.

Do you have cites where Stone is denying that now? Because if he says he didn't than I'll back up the claim that he is lying about that.



Thanks for finally putting in the closing italics, btw.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Alex Jones, you watch Alex Jones, wow. That says it all.


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Tuesday, April 3, 2018 10:57 AM

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I did watch Alex Jones, back before the election. Back when I was drinking 150 beers a week. I never hid that from anybody. In fact, this is probably the third time that I've told YOU that Stone admitted to having discussions with Assange in his own words when you brought up somebody else saying it.


I don't give a shit what Google says, Second. You're just quoting some MSM story that I otherwise wouldn't believe if I hadn't heard Stone say it himself.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, April 3, 2018 11:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I don't give a shit what Google says, Second. You're just quoting some MSM story that I otherwise wouldn't believe if I hadn't heard Stone say it himself.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Would you believe this story? Mueller Reportedly Tells Trump Lawyers the President Is Still Not a Criminal Target of Russia Investigation
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/mueller-reportedly-tells-t
rump-lawyers-president-still-not-a-criminal-target-of-russia-probe.html


And even if Trump was a criminal target: Several legal scholars and impeachment experts believe Mueller may conclude he does not have the authority to charge a sitting president with a crime under an opinion written by the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel in 1973 and reaffirmed in 2000. If Mueller finds Trump engaged in criminal conduct, he could detail it in a report, experts argue, and let Congress to decide whether to launch impeachment proceedings based on Mueller’s findings.

I know what will happen to that report if the GOP controls Congress. The report goes into the trash can. It could be years waiting for a change of control in Congress before the public knows what was in the report. By then, it won't make any difference what Mueller wrote.

Quote:

One of the biggest obstacles to the Justice Department making public findings about the investigation is that Rosenstein has repeatedly said publicly that prosecutors should not discuss their reasons for not filing charges in a specific case, particularly when individuals are involved.

Indeed, the memo Rosenstein prepared last year that the White House initially seized upon to justify the firing of FBI Director James Comey sharply faulted him for publicly revealing and assessing the evidence found in the course of the probe into Hillary Clinton's use of a private email account while secretary of state.

"Derogatory information sometimes is disclosed in the course of criminal investigations and prosecutions, but we never release it gratuitously," Rosenstein wrote. "The Director [Comey] laid out his version of the facts for the news media as if it were a closing argument, but without a trial. It is a textbook example of what federal prosecutors and agents are taught not to do."

www.politico.com/story/2018/04/03/trump-mueller-russia-probe-500128

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Wednesday, April 4, 2018 12:58 PM

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I don't see any anonymous sources in that story.

I hope that answers your question.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't see any anonymous sources in that story.

I hope that answers your question.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

4 theories on what Mueller telling Trump he’s not a “target” means:

Interpretation 1: take it at face value — Mueller has little on Trump, and that’s good news for the president

Interpretation 2: Mueller is straightforwardly describing where he is now — but that shouldn’t be too comforting for Trump

Interpretation 3: this is what Mueller wants Trump to think, for his own strategic reasons. In other words, Mueller wants Trump to voluntarily sit for an interview under oath

Interpretation #4: this is a statement of the obvious because Mueller can’t indict a sitting president. Only Congress can.

Is more than one interpretation true? Only Mueller knows and he is wisely not talking.

www.vox.com/2018/4/4/17197128/mueller-trump-target

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Thursday, April 5, 2018 10:53 AM

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No reason anyone should put all their cards out on the table.

No real reason to speculate at this point either.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No reason anyone should put all their cards out on the table.

No real reason to speculate at this point either.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It should have never turned into a competition, but Trump had to fire Comey because Comey was investigating the 2016 election. Then Trump threatened to fire Mueller, than threatened to fire Mueller's supervisor Rosenstein, then threatened to fire the supervisor's supervisor, Attorney General Sessions. Everybody has to keep Trump in the dark or else they will never finish investigating the 2016 election before they are either fired by Trump or the next election happens in 2020.

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Thursday, April 5, 2018 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No reason anyone should put all their cards out on the table.

No real reason to speculate at this point either.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It should have never turned into a competition, but Trump had to fire Comey because Comey was investigating the 2016 election. Then Trump threatened to fire Mueller, than threatened to fire Mueller's supervisor Rosenstein, then threatened to fire the supervisor's supervisor, Attorney General Sessions. Everybody has to keep Trump in the dark or else they will never finish investigating the 2016 election before they are either fired by Trump or the next election happens in 2020.



You mean that they should do their jobs correctly?

I can't imagine a scenario where it's a good practice for the investigators to brief the prosecuted party every step of the way. Either directly or indirectly via the MSM.

What a shit show so far.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No reason anyone should put all their cards out on the table.

No real reason to speculate at this point either.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It should have never turned into a competition, but Trump had to fire Comey because Comey was investigating the 2016 election. Then Trump threatened to fire Mueller, than threatened to fire Mueller's supervisor Rosenstein, then threatened to fire the supervisor's supervisor, Attorney General Sessions. Everybody has to keep Trump in the dark or else they will never finish investigating the 2016 election before they are either fired by Trump or the next election happens in 2020.



You mean that they should do their jobs correctly?

I can't imagine a scenario where it's a good practice for the investigators to brief the prosecuted party every step of the way. Either directly or indirectly via the MSM.

What a shit show so far.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

The "prosecuted party" is being "briefed" every step of the investigation. Republican Congressional committees have forced Comey and Rosenstein and Sessions and Andrew McCabe, the fired #2 at the FBI, to testify about what they know about the investigation of the 2016 election. The Republicans have made it very clear they don't want that election investigated, but they also don't want the voters to see Congress and Trump give clear orders and job terminations making it perfectly obvious to the public why they want the investigation stopped.

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It could happen to Trump:

South Korea’s former president is probably spending the rest of her life behind bars

Former South Korean president Park Geun-hye was today (April 6) sentenced to 24 years in prison for her role in a massive bribery and influence-peddling scandal. Whether the punishment fits the crime is likely to be hotly debated among Koreans for a long time.

A court in Seoul delivered the verdict in an almost two-hour-long televised trial, as the judge detailed each of the 18 charges leveled against Park including bribery and abuse of power, among others. Park, who has been boycotting the trial since October, did not appear in the courtroom. She was found guilty of 16 charges.

Park was impeached in late 2016 and then officially removed from office last year.

More at https://qz.com/1246383

Another test awaits Korea’s 30-year-old democracy — another former president is currently sitting in jail. Park’s predecessor Lee Myung-bak was arrested last month on corruption allegations. He has yet to be formally charged.

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Friday, April 6, 2018 9:16 AM

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Originally posted by second:
The "prosecuted party" is being "briefed" every step of the investigation. Republican Congressional committees have forced Comey and Rosenstein and Sessions and Andrew McCabe, the fired #2 at the FBI, to testify about what they know about the investigation of the 2016 election. The Republicans have made it very clear they don't want that election investigated, but they also don't want the voters to see Congress and Trump give clear orders and job terminations making it perfectly obvious to the public why they want the investigation stopped.



The only reason I don't buy your narrative is because it puts all the blame for bad politicians on the Republicans and none on the Democrats again.

The last time I checked, most Republican politicians are not fans of Trump anyhow. Why would they do this? Certainly Pence or Ryan would be a more palatable replacement for most of them.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, April 6, 2018 11:25 AM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Hmmm.. a lot of speculation and hope on the part of Trump-haters but .... still no evidence.


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Friday, April 6, 2018 11:43 AM

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Yup... Yawn.

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Friday, April 6, 2018 2:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hmmm.. a lot of speculation and hope on the part of Trump-haters but .... still no evidence.

Their pretend Evidence threads have become so withered and desolate that they don't even bother to post their hopes and speculation in those wastelands, but search for enrelated threads to shit-up with their nonsense.

Pathetic, really.

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Monday, April 9, 2018 11:16 PM

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Quote:

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This is slightly off the topic of No Evidence, but doesn't really fit in the shitted-up opposite threads.

Perhaps it should be a separate thread.

Sounds like Manafort's lawyers are pursuing a legal challenge which should have been done long ago.

AG Sessions, Appointed and Confirmed by Senate, recused himself soley and specifically on the subject of Trump-Russia Collusion.

He appointed Deputy AG Rosenstein (not a Cabinet Member or Line-of-Succession Office) to appoint a Special Counsel for the specific issue which Sessions recused himself.

Rosenstein, acting AG for this sole specific subject, appointed Mueller and has clearly stated several times that any expansion of Investigation must be approved by himself, Rosenstein.

Either Mueller has secured the approval from Rosenstein on each expanded Witch Hunt Fishing Expedition, or Mueller did such without approval and Rosenstein neglected and failed to corral him in, failing to curtail the ever widening Witch Hunt into areas which the actual AG Sessions never refused himself from.

Thus, Rosenstein has effectively annointed himself defacto AG, outside of his Constitutional Authority.

So nothing Mueller has Investigated, outside of nonexistent Trump-Russia Collusion, or brought charges for (none of which is related to Trump-Russia Collusion) has any merit or Authority.


Sessions had recused himself specifically from the Trump-Russia Collusion Investigation because he had been an advisor and surrogate for the 2016 Trump Campaign. He did not recuse himself from any tax or IRS matter, or any business dealings from before the campaign, or any misstatements uttered by subordinates, or anything that the SC has filed charges about, or convened Grand Juries about.

Did Sessions recuse himself from legal matters of Mike Cohen unrelated to Trump-Russia Collusion?

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Sunday, April 29, 2018 7:12 PM

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Obviously in regard to this thread topic, Still No Evidence.

However there is more and more evidence of the obvious Collusion between Russia and Hilliary and Obama.

And the House Select Committee has released their final report this past week.

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Sunday, April 29, 2018 8:25 PM

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None of the criminals from either side are ever going to jail.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, April 30, 2018 4:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
None of the criminals from either side are ever going to jail.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Easy for the Trump side, where there are no Criminals.

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Monday, April 30, 2018 7:49 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
None of the criminals from either side are ever going to jail.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Easy for the Trump side, where there are no Criminals.



While I maintain that I don't believe that Trump himself is a criminal, I find the above statement to be one of the funnier things I've seen posted in these forums in quite a while.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Trump’s unpopular even though objective conditions in the country are, in most respects, fairly benign. The president is behaving inappropriately on a near-daily basis, profiting personally from the presidency, attempting to stymie a legitimate inquiry into Russian involvement in the 2016 campaign, and constantly demonstrating near-zero comprehension of the main issues in American politics.

People quite rightly find this alarming, and with Republicans politicians lining up near uniformly to defend him, the voters are lashing out and punishing them. But Impeachment is a pointless trap for Democratic politicians.

The problem with impeachment is that as unpopular as Trump is, impeaching him is about equally as unpopular.

That’s why, perversely, drawing attention to the possibility of removing Trump from office could be a smart way for Republicans to do their best to neutralize the Trump issue in the 2018 campaign. Of course, no tactic will fully undo the damage, but Republican politicians can plausibly hope that the combination of a favorable map and incumbency effects will let them survive a moderately unfavorable national political climate — they just need to ensure it’s not a massively unfavorable one.

A 2019 impeachment drive by Democrats would be futile. To remove a president from office requires 67 Senate votes, meaning it would need to be a fully bipartisan undertaking, and there’s just no evidence that anything like a cross-party anti-Trump consensus will emerge in Congress next year.

www.vox.com/2018/4/30/17291016/democrats-impeachment-midterms

What the situation calls for, instead, are specific, non-futile measures a Democratic majority could take to check Trump.

That starts with ensuring that the work of special counsel Robert Mueller and his team won’t be stopped by presidential whim. If Mueller is fired, Congress can and should take up the very same questions his team was exploring — they could even hire Mueller if he wants the job — and ensure that whatever it is about the investigation that makes Trump so nervous won’t be covered up.

But even more important in some ways, Congressional committees both could and should use their subpoena powers to try to understand who is paying the president and why, rather than sitting idly by and allow him to accept bribes in secret via his range of private clubs and other business interests.

It’s possible that a thorough airing of Trump’s financial dealings and Russia-related matters won’t turn up any new, noteworthy information, in which case Republicans will keep backing him and he’ll either be beaten at the polls in 2020 or he won’t. It’s also possible that the reason Trump is keeping all this stuff covered up is that he is hiding incredibly damning secrets whose revelation will change Republicans’ thinking.

The crucial thing, both politically and substantively, is to be clear that impeachment is ultimately a question for Republicans, not for Democrats. Without GOP support, there’s no way to remove Trump from office, and even if Trump were removed, Democrats still would not be thrilled with a Mike Pence presidency.

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Monday, April 30, 2018 2:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
None of the criminals from either side are ever going to jail.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Easy for the Trump side, where there are no Criminals.

While I maintain that I don't believe that Trump himself is a criminal, I find the above statement to be one of the funnier things I've seen posted in these forums in quite a while.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You enjoy the Deep Diving for Process Crimes? Sure somebody is guilty of lying to the FBI when they say they live on Main Street while the truth is Main Avenue.
Nothing like destroying tens of thousands of subpoenaed emails.

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Monday, April 30, 2018 5:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
None of the criminals from either side are ever going to jail.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Easy for the Trump side, where there are no Criminals.

While I maintain that I don't believe that Trump himself is a criminal, I find the above statement to be one of the funnier things I've seen posted in these forums in quite a while.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You enjoy the Deep Diving for Process Crimes? Sure somebody is guilty of lying to the FBI when they say they live on Main Street while the truth is Main Avenue.
Nothing like destroying tens of thousands of subpoenaed emails.



I'm not comparing crimes. You're a fool if you believe that people at that level of power aren't corrupt to the core simply because they are part of the GOP though.

Draining the swamp was one of the promises that Trump has been keeping. Every day somebody on either side quits or is fired is a day that brings a smile to my face. Even better when charges are brought up against them.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, April 30, 2018 6:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
This is slightly off the topic of No Evidence, but doesn't really fit in the shitted-up opposite threads.

Perhaps it should be a separate thread.

Sounds like Manafort's lawyers are pursuing a legal challenge which should have been done long ago.

AG Sessions, Appointed and Confirmed by Senate, recused himself soley and specifically on the subject of Trump-Russia Collusion.

He appointed Deputy AG Rosenstein (not a Cabinet Member or Line-of-Succession Office) to appoint a Special Counsel for the specific issue which Sessions recused himself.

Rosenstein, acting AG for this sole specific subject, appointed Mueller and has clearly stated several times that any expansion of Investigation must be approved by himself, Rosenstein.

Either Mueller has secured the approval from Rosenstein on each expanded Witch Hunt Fishing Expedition, or Mueller did such without approval and Rosenstein neglected and failed to corral him in, failing to curtail the ever widening Witch Hunt into areas which the actual AG Sessions never refused himself from.

Thus, Rosenstein has effectively annointed himself defacto AG, outside of his Constitutional Authority.

So nothing Mueller has Investigated, outside of nonexistent Trump-Russia Collusion, or brought charges for (none of which is related to Trump-Russia Collusion) has any merit or Authority.


Sessions had recused himself specifically from the Trump-Russia Collusion Investigation because he had been an advisor and surrogate for the 2016 Trump Campaign. He did not recuse himself from any tax or IRS matter, or any business dealings from before the campaign, or any misstatements uttered by subordinates, or anything that the SC has filed charges about, or convened Grand Juries about.

I had neglected to return and supply some linkies.
Let's try these:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-27/manafort-asks-virgi
nia-judge-to-dismiss-tax-bank-fraud-case


http://www.jurist.org/paperchase/2018/03/manafort-files-motion-to-dism
iss-mueller-indictment-in-virginia-federal-court.php


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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
None of the criminals from either side are ever going to jail.

Easy for the Trump side, where there are no Criminals.

While I maintain that I don't believe that Trump himself is a criminal, I find the above statement to be one of the funnier things I've seen posted in these forums in quite a while.

You enjoy the Deep Diving for Process Crimes? Sure somebody is guilty of lying to the FBI when they say they live on Main Street while the truth is Main Avenue.
Nothing like destroying tens of thousands of subpoenaed emails.

I'm not comparing crimes. You're a fool if you believe that people at that level of power aren't corrupt to the core simply because they are part of the GOP though.

Draining the swamp was one of the promises that Trump has been keeping. Every day somebody on either side quits or is fired is a day that brings a smile to my face. Even better when charges are brought up against them.

All worker bees in D.C. are corrupt to the core.
Lovely optimistic outlook.

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In the garden, and RAIN!!!!
Sat, August 24, 2019 02:53 - 2580 posts
R.I.P. David Koch, 79.
Sat, August 24, 2019 02:46 - 3 posts
Where did the white man go wrong?
Sat, August 24, 2019 01:33 - 10 posts
Where are the Libertarians?
Sat, August 24, 2019 01:24 - 74 posts
Impeachment Investigation Is Underway, Judiciary Committee Says
Sat, August 24, 2019 01:21 - 75 posts
Trump Administration Tried To Bury His Climate Study
Sat, August 24, 2019 00:44 - 36 posts
Lib journo thinks she can buy a gun @ WalMart. Gets WOKE to the facts.
Sat, August 24, 2019 00:40 - 8 posts
Another white male Chump supporting terrorist?
Sat, August 24, 2019 00:12 - 170 posts
FACTS
Sat, August 24, 2019 00:08 - 50 posts
If you're wondering why Russia died and is replaced with Muh Racisim...
Fri, August 23, 2019 23:51 - 94 posts
Who Is Running In 2020?
Fri, August 23, 2019 21:07 - 179 posts
Dow @ 20K. Time to jump off!
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