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Thursday, November 23, 2017 12:59 PM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
The "no evidence" mantra is a bit puzzling in the context of this very clear and very strange (and sometimes overtly shady) pattern of Russian dealings. These links and meetings provide a very plausible motive AND mechanism for collusion - and are not easily explained away innocently. So... these well-established links and meetings don't count as evidence, why?



'Mantra' iz the rite word for it. Sumthing to keep repeating to brainwash gulliblz.

They do count az evidens. Its our rezident Putin social media soldierz who hav been battling tirelessly to try to keep it all from boiling over.

This thred and a few otherz with similar namez were started by Signym, who seemz to be the leader. The purpose uv the 'evidence' thredz iz to dilute and distract from the orijinal 'evidens' thred I started.

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Thursday, November 23, 2017 1:38 PM

THGRRI


Sig and kiki, you both proceed here as though no one knows you to be both liars and deceptive.

We do


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Thursday, November 23, 2017 1:44 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
The "no evidence" mantra is a bit puzzling in the context of this very clear and very strange (and sometimes overtly shady) pattern of Russian dealings. These links and meetings provide a very plausible motive AND mechanism for collusion - and are not easily explained away innocently. So... these well-established links and meetings don't count as evidence, why?



'Mantra' iz the rite word for it. Sumthing to keep repeating to brainwash gulliblz.

They do count az evidens. Its our rezident Putin social media soldierz who hav been battling tirelessly to try to keep it all from boiling over.

This thred and a few otherz with similar namez were started by Signym, who seemz to be the leader. The purpose uv the 'evidence' thredz iz to dilute and distract from the orijinal 'evidens' thred I started.




Right JO. They lie, deflect and manipulate the truth by distorting it. Add to that any facts they dislike they claim to be false or in many cases non existent. Both have as Putin and Trump wishes, labeled all legitimate news outlets as fake news in their attempts to do this.


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Thursday, November 23, 2017 2:28 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

The "no evidence" mantra is a bit puzzling in the context of this very clear and very strange (and sometimes overtly shady) pattern of Russian dealings. These links and meetings provide a very plausible motive AND mechanism for collusion - and are not easily explained away innocently. So... these well-established links and meetings don't count as evidence, why?- KRAPO


Five people on the chart talked to the Russian Ambassador.
OMG!!! Stop the presses!!!
Son, do you have any idea HOW MANY people talked to the Russian Ambassador? Why, I'll bet you'll find Obama's and Hillary's names on that list too!

Five people talked to "Russian affiliated interests". But sometimes those interests (oligarchs) are not only NOT LINKED to the Kremlin, they're working in opposition to it. Secondly, you will find many other names on that list of politicians and political operatives who contacted "Russian affiliated interests" including Podesta and Clinton through activities with Fusion GPS and uranium.

"Russian business interests" = American businesses in Russia. Here is a list of American businesses in Russia:

3M
Abbott Laboratories
AbbVie
AECOM
Air Products
Albermarle Chemicals Representative Office
Alcoa SMZ (Alcoa Russia)
American Express Russia & CIS
AmeRussia St.Petersburg, Russia
Amrustrans
Amsted Rail Company
Amway Russia
Apple
Armstrong World Industries
Autodesk
Avis Russia
Avon Beauty Products Company
Black & Decker, Moscow Representative Office
Boeing Russia
Bristol-Myers Squibb
Brown-Forman Russia
Burger King
Cameron
Cargill
Caterpillar Eurasia
Caterpillar Tosno
Celgene Corporation
Chevron
Cisco Systems
Citi Russia
Citibank, Saint-Petersburg Branch
Coca-Cola System in Russia
Colgate-Palmolive
Compressor Controls Corporation
CononoPhillips Russia
Corning SNG
Crate & Barrel
Cummins Incorporated
Dell
Delta Air Lines
Dolby
Dow Europe
DuPont Science and Technologies
Eaton
Ecolab
ExxonMobil
Fluor Entrprises Group
Ford Sollers Holding
Forever 21
General Electric
General Motors Russia & cIS
Genesys Telecommunications Laboratories
Goldman Sachs
Google
Halliburton
Herbalife International RS
Hewlett Packard Enterprise
Hilton Russia
Honeywell
Huntsman CIS
IBM East Europe/Asia (NW Region Branch)
IBM East Europe/Asia
Intel
International Paper Russia, Moscow Branch
John Deere Rus
Johnson & Johnson
Johnson Controls International
JP Morgan
KBR East
Kellogg Rus
KFC
Kimberly-Clark
Kinross Gold Corporation, Moscow Representative Office
Krispy Kreme
Levi Strauss Moscow
Lexmark International
Liberty Insurance
Lilly Pharma
Mars Inc.
Mary Kay
MasterCard International
McDonald’s Russia
Medtronic
Metlife
Microsoft RUS
Mondelez International
Morgan Stanley
Motorola Solutions
Motorola Solutions, St. Petersburg Software Design Center
MSD Pharmaceuticals
NBCUniversal
Nike
NVIDIA
OCV Steklovolokno (Owens Corning)
Oracle Development SPB
OTIS Lift
PepsiCo
Pfizer
Philip Morris Izhora
Philip Morris Sales & Marketing
Procter & Gamble
Qualcomm Europe, Russia Branch Office
RAND Corporation
SC Johnson
Sealed Air
Sherwin-Williams
Software Technologies
Standard & Poor’s Credit Market Services Europe Limited
Starbucks
Subway Russia
Tenneco Automotive Volga
The Estee Lauder Companies
The Walt Disney Company, CIS
Thermo Fisher Scientific
Timken-Rus Service Company
United Technologies International Operations
United Way of Russia
Visa
Walt Disney Studios Sony Pictures Releasing
Western Union
Wrigley, A subsidiary of Mars, Incorporated-St. Petersburg Branch
Xerox
YRIR (YUM! Restaurants International Russia and CIS)

Maybe we should exclude any officer of any of those companies from consideration?

You're TRYING to create a story by looking at individual facts out of context. If you wanted to be objective, you would be asking questions like

Are the connections/ activity correctly described?
Do/ have other politicians do/done the same thing?
It this unusual or significant activity, or is it incidental or insignificant?
Is there anything inherently inimical to USA interests?


I would go thru this in detail. but, really, you should be doing this on your own.

JO, you claim to be an intelligent guy. As an exercise in independent thought, why don't you try developing some context for KRAPO's post?





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Thursday, November 23, 2017 5:45 PM

JO753

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A fine attempt at obfuscation, Sig.

Too bad it wuz a waste uv time. Not likely anybody reading it will fail to consider that nun uv the peepl on your long list woud hav much reazon to deny their Russian connectionz, az Trump & hiz co-conspiritorz hav.

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Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:55 PM

1KIKI

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Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Trump & hiz co-conspiritorz hav

What exactly are they conspiring to do? Steal an election? Or build a hotel? Or hide money?

Trump is at least as corrupt in business as the Clintons, though probably not as much of a perv as Bill.

But this elusive claim that he was in cahoots with Russia - Putin specifically - to rig the election seems to have evaporated from your mind. Do you have ANY evidence for that? Do you even remember that whole claim you were raving about just a few weeks ago, anymore? Or is your brain completely steered by the media at this point, with no memory, no thought, no direction, except the latest propaganda put in front of you?

TRUMP IS GUILTY !!! ... of something or other ...






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Friday, November 24, 2017 12:36 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I thought Thanksgiving was supposed to induce food coma.
But instead this thread has invasion of the trolls.
So, still no evidence?

Soon time for fresh start of another thread.

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Friday, November 24, 2017 8:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by G:

Btw, Don Jr certainly colluded, that seems beyond question. And that's not me saying it, that's from his own mouth. Wouldn't you agree?

As soon as Junior is on the witness stand, he will reverse himself and claim he misspoke or was incorrect or something. Like Father, like Son. It will be impossible to convict on Obstruction of Justice charges without more than a Trump's word.

Comey was fired May 9th to stop the FBI’s Russia investigation. That’s true if you believe the words from Trump’s mouth on May 11. But he was not under oath when he spoke.

Under oath or not, if Trump had not talked on TV, Mueller would not have been hired May 17th to look at Trump obstructing justice by firing Comey.

Because Trump will change his explanation for firing Comey when he is under oath to tell the Truth, Trump’s May 11th words aren’t enough to convict him. Then how does the Justice Department prove Obstruction? It must prove that there was a real connection between Trump’s campaign and Russia. Trump’s May 11th words on TV were only enough to motivate the Attorney General to begin looking for more proof than Trump’s words, words that he will disavow when he is impeached.

There are whole bunch of Trump campaign people that are talking to Mueller. Trump, 1kiki, and Signym insisting that there is no evidence doesn’t change a word said to Mueller.



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Friday, November 24, 2017 10:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
What exactly are they conspiring to do? Steal an election? Or build a hotel? Or hide money?



Yes, yes & yes. And lift sanctionz, destroy America in any way they can think uv, help Putin in any way they can think uv.

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Friday, November 24, 2017 10:15 AM

SIGNYM

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I find it so *interesting* that you just happened to have this list handy.- GSTRING


I didn't "just happen[ed] to have this handy", I went to startpage.com (an anonymizer for google) and did a search on "american businesses in russia" and it was the second site that popped up. It is for the Association of Accredited Public Policy Advocates to the European Union which is a Belgian (i.e EU) NGO open only to senior managers of business firms. http://www.aalep.eu/american-companies-operating-russia

Your problem, GSTRING, isn't that you don't know how to use the internet, your problem is that you don't ask the right questions.

Are the connections/ activity correctly described?
Do/ have other politicians do/done the same thing?
It this unusual or significant activity, or is it incidental or insignificant?
Is there anything inherently inimical to USA interests?

Why is the "news item" appearing NOW, when it is not connected to a recent event?
Who benefits?
What are we NOT being told?


Just because I recognize the flaws in our "establishment" foreign and economic policies (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Hillary) and the biases of our MSM doesn't make me a "Trump supporter". I also realize that Trump's policies and personality are flawed, and would be happy to discuss them if only you'd get off this entirely synthetic "issue" and talk about something real. Yanno, like what our interests are and what our goals and policies SHOULD be. Instead, you've been completely distracted by this "red herring" (so to speak).



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Friday, November 24, 2017 10:27 AM

SIGNYM

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So JO, no context for the so-called "evidence" that KRAPO posted?

No even-handed comparison of the connections between Obama, the DNC, Hillary, and Bush to "Russia"?

No comparison of the connections between Obama, Hillary and Bush with certain elements of the (terrorist-supporting) Saudi Royal family?

Because, yanno, I think it would be EXTREMELY instructive if you could create exactly the same kind of chart. One of the first elements that you might include is something like this ...



And I thought you said you were a smart guy.



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Friday, November 24, 2017 12:00 PM

SIGNYM

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GSTRING: Whatever.

KRAPO's post of "evidence"? What did it show? That people talk to the Russian Ambassador? That there are American businesses operating in Russia? That political operatives like Manafort worked for unsavory oligarchs, as did Fusion GPS?

OH MY GOODNESS!!!!

It seems that politics and business are both dirty, and there's a lot of dirt to dig. Why don't we focus on IMPORTANT things, like what our interests are and what our goals should be. That way, we won't get sidetracked by trivia.

As far as Trump Jr, please refresh my memory. I don't recall what he said, so you'll have to repeat whatever you think is relevant. But whatever it was he "wanted" to do, apparently it was a dry well. Not sure that anyone can be convicted on their "motivation", only on their actions. But feel free to make your point.

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Friday, November 24, 2017 1:15 PM

1KIKI

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Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Yes, yes & yes. And lift sanctionz, destroy America in any way they can think uv, help Putin in any way they can think uv.

They're seeking to 'destroy America' by building a hotel? BY BUILDING A HOTEL?!

Perhaps you can explain to me how 'destroying America by building a hotel' is supposed to work.




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Friday, November 24, 2017 4:40 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So JO, no context for the so-called "evidence" that KRAPO posted?

No even-handed comparison of the connections between Obama, the DNC, Hillary, and Bush to "Russia"?

No comparison of the connections between Obama, Hillary and Bush with certain elements of the (terrorist-supporting) Saudi Royal family?

Because, yanno, I think it would be EXTREMELY instructive if you could create exactly the same kind of chart. One of the first elements that you might include is something like this ...



And I thought you said you were a smart guy.






Here is a senator trying to force Sessions to appoint a special counsel to investigate the Uranium deal and the dossier. Listen to what Sessions says after he has had enough. He confirms though what he says that without evidence of a wrong doing you can't have an investigation.

Yet you continue to insist to post bullshit and spread lies.




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Friday, November 24, 2017 7:32 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


After insisting he couldn't talk about appointing a Special Prosecutor, Sessions talked about appointing a Special Prosecutor after some very mild hectoring. He sure is easy to manipulate.




HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?

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Friday, November 24, 2017 7:38 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
After insisting he couldn't talk about appointing a Special Prosecutor, Sessions talked about appointing a Special Prosecutor after some very mild hectoring. He sure is easy to manipulate.




Really, who did he appoint?

Waiting.......


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Friday, November 24, 2017 8:52 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

... without evidence of a wrong doing you can't have an investigation.

Well, yes, indeed THUGR.

So what counts as "evidence of wrongdoing"?

******

Here are a few things to consider:

Some people talked to the Russian Ambassador. Is there something essentially wrong with talking to the Russian Ambassador, or ANY ambassador? If not wrongdoing on its face, at what point might it become wrongdoing?

Businesses have operations in Russia. Is there something wrong with American businesses making money in Russia? Does this fact threaten our interests? At what point might (a) business(es) operating in Russia become wrongdoing?

Political consultants of all stripes have offered their consulting services to eastern European/ Russian oligarchs who may be pro-Russia or anti-Russia or neutral. These consultants also work for American politicians, both Republican and Democrat. Is this wrongdoing? If not, at what point might it become wrongdoing? And why?



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Friday, November 24, 2017 9:12 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

... without evidence of a wrong doing you can't have an investigation.

Well, yes, indeed THUGR.

So what counts as "evidence of wrongdoing"?




Mueller is uncovering more every day. Tick tock, tick tock.


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Friday, November 24, 2017 9:29 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Too bad Mueller is a government employee.

If somebody were to Six Sigma his ass in the private sector, Trump would have been behind bars months ago... or not.

Either way, we'd be able to let the Countdown Thread finally slip into the oblivion of dead posts here.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, November 24, 2017 9:59 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

So what counts as "evidence of wrongdoing"?- SIGNY

Mueller is uncovering more every day. - THUGR

So in other words: "Nothing yet" and KRAPO's post is bullshit?

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Friday, November 24, 2017 10:20 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
After insisting he couldn't talk about appointing a Special Prosecutor, Sessions talked about appointing a Special Prosecutor after some very mild hectoring. He sure is easy to manipulate.


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Really, who did he appoint?

Waiting.......

OMf'ingG! Sessions TALKED about appointing a Special Prosecutor - he did that thing he said he couldn't do. TALK ABOUT IT. What he SAID was that he wasn't going to.




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Saturday, November 25, 2017 2:03 AM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And I thought you said you were a smart guy.



Not that I recall, but being an idiot, I may hav made such a false statement on sum occasion in wich it seemed like a good thing to say.

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Saturday, November 25, 2017 8:56 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And I thought you said you were a smart guy.



Not that I recall, but being an idiot, I may hav made such a false statement on sum occasion in wich it seemed like a good thing to say.




Hell, I think you're a smart guy JO


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Saturday, November 25, 2017 9:44 AM

SIGNYM

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THUGR, you "missed" answering this question:
Quote:

So what counts as "evidence of wrongdoing"?- SIGNY

Mueller is uncovering more every day. - THUGR

So in other words: "Nothing yet" and KRAPO's post is bullshit?

******

It seems to me that we get to this point over and over ... and over and over again ... When challenged for actual evidence of "collusion with Russia", what winds up getting posted is ... Not yet! But just you wait! Mueller is developing some!

There has been a countervailing message on alt media BTW, one which goes: The "dossier" was used to initiate surveillance of Trump and his campaign; and he and his people have been surveilled for quite some time by the NSA. During the initial transition period, when the deep state was anonymously leaking everything they could think of ... including the unmasked "dossier" ... if there had been anything substantive, it would have come out then.

In any case, I'm waiting. Been waiting for a while. At some point, the wait will be over and THEN you can talk about evidence. But those thousand+ posts, all of that hysteria about Russia "hacking" our elections (as if!) and Trump "colluding" with Russia ... so much empty noise?


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Saturday, November 25, 2017 10:01 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR:
Quote:

So what counts as "evidence of wrongdoing"?- SIGNY

Mueller is uncovering more every day. - THUGR

So in other words: "Nothing yet" and KRAPO's post is bullshit?



Get real once sig. Convicting people, governments, i.e. American of wrong doing is what you do here in these threads. And, you source your information from entities that aren't even reputable to do so. It's what you do here. It's all you do here. It's funny now to see you deny proof of anything that's been reported by reputable sources given your history.

Your hypocrisy is outdone only by your ability to exist in a delusional state.


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Saturday, November 25, 2017 10:12 AM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

THUGR: So what counts as "evidence of wrongdoing"?- SIGNY

Mueller is uncovering more every day. - THUGR

So in other words: "Nothing yet" and KRAPO's post is bullshit? - THUGR


Get real once sig. Convicting people, governments, i.e. American of wrong doing is what you do here in these threads.- THUGR

Yes, but I have EVIDENCE to back it up: videos, recorded phone calls, documents, military assessments. If you were to challenge me on the evidence then we could discuss its veracity. BUT YOU NEVER HAVE.

Quote:

And, you source your information from entities that aren't even reputable to do so.- THUGR
Ah yes, my "sources". An aggregator which gets ITS information from sources all over the world.

YOUR sources, THUGR, are shit. They've misled you time and time again. It would be impossible to count the number of lies that you've swallowed whole. You would think, that after having been misled over and over again, you would have developed a healthy skepticism of YOUR "sources". But you haven't. You're left holding the bag ..."Just you wait! Some day! Evidence will come!"

What I'm waiting for is the day when you will start demonstrating some independent thinking skills. Do you suppose that day will ever come?

In any case, THERE IS STILL NO EVIDENCE, and despite the 137 posts under its belt, this thread is still a moot point.


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Saturday, November 25, 2017 10:40 AM

THGRRI


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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

THUGR: So what counts as "evidence of wrongdoing"?- SIGNY

Mueller is uncovering more every day. - THUGR

So in other words: "Nothing yet" and KRAPO's post is bullshit? - THUGR


Get real once sig. Convicting people, governments, i.e. American of wrong doing is what you do here in these threads.- THUGR

Yes, but I have EVIDENCE to back it up: videos, recorded phone calls, documents, military assessments. If you were to challenge me on the evidence then we could discuss its veracity. BUT YOU NEVER HAVE.

Quote:

And, you source your information from entities that aren't even reputable to do so.- THUGR
Ah yes, my "sources". An aggregator which gets ITS information from sources all over the world.

YOUR sources, THUGR, are shit. They've misled you time and time again. It would be impossible to count the number of lies that you've swallowed whole. You would think, that after having been misled over and over again, you would have developed a healthy skepticism of YOUR "sources". But you haven't. You're left holding the bag ..."Just you wait! Some day! Evidence will come!"

What I'm waiting for is the day when you will start demonstrating some independent thinking skills. Do you suppose that day will ever come?

In any case, THERE IS STILL NO EVIDENCE, and despite the 137 posts under its belt, this thread is still a moot point.


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Saturday, November 25, 2017 10:53 AM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Here's a get well card sig because you truly are a sick bastard.




And this thread is still moot, despite the personal attack* and the gif that you shit in this thread. *Because you seem to be allergic to evidence.

THUGR, just as an education (for you) into how many lies you've swallowed, one of these days I'm going to go back thru our posts and list all of the ones that you defended or told (including the one that you said over and over). Maybe then you'll see what an idiot you've been.

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Saturday, November 25, 2017 12:21 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Here's a get well card sig because you truly are a sick bastard.




And this thread is still moot, despite the personal attack* and the gif that you shit in this thread. *Because you seem to be allergic to evidence.

THUGR, just as an education (for you) into how many lies you've swallowed, one of these days I'm going to go back thru our posts and list all of the ones that you defended or told (including the one that you said over and over). Maybe then you'll see what an idiot you've been.



Great, just make sure to give links back to my posted statements sig because we all know you and kiki alter what others say.


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Saturday, November 25, 2017 1:07 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61935&mid=10419
47#1041947

Quote:

]Originally posted by THGRRI:
Great, just make sure to give links back to my posted statements sig because we all know you and kiki alter what others say.


Any links to Signy doing that, comrade troll? Or are you lying again, as always?




HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?

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Saturday, November 25, 2017 1:37 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61935&mid=10419
47#1041947

Quote:

]Originally posted by THGRRI:
Great, just make sure to give links back to my posted statements sig because we all know you and kiki alter what others say.


Any links to Signy doing that, comrade troll? Or are you lying again, as always?




That's funny kiki because you know I and others here have pointed it out many times, in real time.


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Saturday, November 25, 2017 1:52 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Hell, I think you're a smart guy JO.


I hav known sum 'smart' peepl, so dont hav any delusionz uv being wun.

On top uv that, I figured out on my own that the correct perspectiv iz that there iz only GOD (theoreticly speaking) and desending levelz uv stoopid. And even the least stoopid human iz barely above a worm in that hierarky.

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Saturday, November 25, 2017 2:02 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Hell, I think you're a smart guy JO.


I hav known sum 'smart' peepl, so dont hav any delusionz uv being wun.

On top uv that, I figured out on my own that the correct perspectiv iz that there iz only GOD (theoreticly speaking) and desending levelz uv stoopid. And even the least stoopid human iz barely above a worm in that hierarky.



Since that hierarchy doesn't exist you can relax and claim your rightful place amongst the intelligent; welcome.


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Saturday, November 25, 2017 3:55 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
you can relax and claim your rightful place amongst the intelligent; welcome.

Did you just call yourself 'among the intelligent'?

OOPS.




HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?

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Saturday, November 25, 2017 3:57 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


So, JO

Being a smart guy and all ... you made a claim and didn't explain it, yet. You claimed that Russia and Trump were seeking to 'destroy America' by building a hotel.

Being a smart guy and all, perhaps you can explain to me how 'destroying America by building a hotel' is supposed to work.





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Saturday, November 25, 2017 5:53 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Great, just make sure to give links back to my posted statements sig because we all know you and kiki alter what others say. - THUGR
LIAR.


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Saturday, November 25, 2017 10:49 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Here's a get well card sig because you truly are a sick bastard.




And this thread is still moot, despite the personal attack* and the gif that you shit in this thread. *Because you seem to be allergic to evidence.

THUGR, just as an education (for you) into how many lies you've swallowed, one of these days I'm going to go back thru our posts and list all of the ones that you defended or told (including the one that you said over and over). Maybe then you'll see what an idiot you've been.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

hahahahahahahaha.
You get him to comprehend how much of an idiot he is?
That is rich.
You greatly overestimate his ability to comprehend.
What deludes you to conjure you can create miracles?

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Saturday, November 25, 2017 11:01 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
So, JO

Being a smart guy and all ... you made a claim and didn't explain it, yet. You claimed that Russia and Trump were seeking to 'destroy America' by building a hotel.

Being a smart guy and all, perhaps you can explain to me how 'destroying America by building a hotel' is supposed to work.

You are expecting something besides crickets?

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Sunday, November 26, 2017 2:53 AM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
So, JO

You claimed that Russia and Trump were seeking to 'destroy America' by building a hotel.



No I didnt. You misred wut I rote. Altho English iz a rats nest uv bad lojik, there iz a sort uv a system there. Pay attention to the punctuation.

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Sunday, November 26, 2017 3:00 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


And yet another page of no evidence.

Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
What exactly are they conspiring to do? Steal an election? Or build a hotel? Or hide money?

Yes, yes & yes. And lift sanctionz, destroy America in any way they can think uv, help Putin in any way they can think uv.

Looks like you are saying one way to destroy America is to built a hotel. Of course, American English is not in use, so who really knows?

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Sunday, November 26, 2017 5:44 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
What exactly are they conspiring to do? Steal an election? Or build a hotel? Or hide money?

Yes, yes & yes. And lift sanctionz, destroy America in any way they can think uv, help Putin in any way they can think uv.

Looks like you are saying one way to destroy America is to built a hotel. Of course, American English is not in use, so who really knows?



Hotels on Boardwalk and Park Place can be pretty devastating.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 26, 2017 7:10 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
So, JO

You claimed that Russia and Trump were seeking to 'destroy America' by building a hotel.

No I didnt. You misred wut I rote. Altho English iz a rats nest uv bad lojik, there iz a sort uv a system there. Pay attention to the punctuation.

No mention of Park Place or Boardwalk here.

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Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:52 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


What I thought I read was...
Quote:

What exactly are they conspiring to do? Steal an election? - KIKI
Yes- JO
Or build a hotel? - KIKI
Yes- JO
Or hide money?- KIKI
Yes- JO



But I'm not inclined to pin JO on that moment of over-enthusiastic prose. I'm sure that's not what he meant.


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Sunday, November 26, 2017 11:28 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
What exactly are they conspiring to do? Steal an election? Or build a hotel? Or hide money?

Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Yes, yes & yes. And lift sanctionz, destroy America in any way they can think uv, help Putin in any way they can think uv.

Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
So, JO
Being a smart guy and all, perhaps you can explain to me how 'destroying America by building a hotel' is supposed to work.

Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
So, JO
You claimed that Russia and Trump were seeking to 'destroy America' by building a hotel.

Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
No I didnt. You misred wut I rote. Altho English iz a rats nest uv bad lojik, there iz a sort uv a system there. Pay attention to the punctuation.

So JO, you now state that Trump WASN'T trying to 'destroy America' by building a hotel.
That means that you understand not EVERYthing Trump may (or may not) have done wasn't aimed at America.

Some of it was just Trump doing business, like a whole host of other American companies were just doing business.

Right?




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Tuesday, November 28, 2017 2:20 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I would have thought that JO would be able to agree to such a commonsense statement, but apparently had to dig up a Keith Olbermann video to do his talking for him.

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Saturday, December 2, 2017 3:37 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I would have thought that JO would be able to agree to such a commonsense statement, but apparently had to dig up a Keith Olbermann video to do his talking for him.

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when is this post?

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Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:13 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still no evidence?

At least now there might be evidence of collusion between DoJ, HRC,etc.

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Sunday, January 28, 2018 11:48 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Sounds like still no evidence.

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Wednesday, January 31, 2018 4:48 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still no evidence?

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Thursday, February 1, 2018 12:29 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence, a day before Memo Release?

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