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Wednesday, December 5, 2018 3:46 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.

And Collusion is not even Illegal!

And a Sitting President cannot be indicted.

How productive the past 18 months have been.

All still true.

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Saturday, December 8, 2018 9:18 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

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Saturday, December 8, 2018 9:43 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.



True - with the only exception being the campaign finance crimes, collusion with Russia and obstruction of justice parts - other than that he'll probably only die in prison. Unless... do we still hang traitors?

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Saturday, December 8, 2018 10:22 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Still No Evidence.



True - with the only exception being the campaign finance crimes, collusion with Russia and obstruction of justice parts - other than that he'll probably only die in prison. Unless... do we still hang traitors?



What a complete dipshit jsf is G. Just a complete dipshit.

T



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Saturday, December 8, 2018 4:44 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Still no evidence.

Mueller has not put .TRUMP.RUSSIA.COLLUSION. together in the same package. And no matter how many 'process' crimes Mueller finds or creates, no matter how many pages of speculation SECOND posts, no matter how much bank fraud is uncovered, no matter how many times dipshits like THUGGER and GEEBERS repeat the same claims - there is still no evidence.

Unless you like living in kookoo-land. But I prefer to live in reality.




tic tac

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Monday, December 10, 2018 12:21 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Another Monday.

Still No Evidence.


The Federal Elections Commission Chairman already clearly explained that there was no violation of Campaign Finance Law, despite Mueller's Lies. The Mueller Lie Train/Chain should be a meme, for Trolls to easily comprehend.

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Monday, December 10, 2018 12:38 PM

THG


tick tock

T


Reporter breaks down stunning number of contacts between Trump campaign and Russians







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Monday, December 10, 2018 1:55 PM

THG


tick tock dummies
T



Fox legal analyst says he can’t imagine Trump not being indicted


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Monday, December 10, 2018 6:44 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Still no evidence.

Mueller has not put .TRUMP.RUSSIA.COLLUSION. together in the same package. And no matter how many 'process' crimes Mueller finds or creates, no matter how many pages of speculation SECOND posts, no matter how much bank fraud is uncovered, no matter how many times dipshits like THUGGER and GEEBERS repeat the same claims - there is still no evidence.

Unless you like living in kookoo-land. But I prefer to live in reality.


tic tac

Another Monday has passed.

Where, oh where, could any Evidence be?

It's like waiting for the Easter Bunny. Do Trolls believe in Easter Bunny?

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Monday, December 10, 2018 8:01 PM

THG


So, no smocking gun then...

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Monday, December 10, 2018 8:27 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


glad you agree




tic tac

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Monday, December 10, 2018 8:52 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


All that foreplay, but then the Troll has ED?

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Wednesday, December 12, 2018 1:51 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Michael Cohen, former Trump attorney, gets 3 years in prison for tax fraud, campaign finance violations, lying
www.foxnews.com/politics/cohen-slams-trumps-dirty-deeds-ahead-of-sente
ncing


Cohen told the judge he felt it was his duty to cover up the president's “dirty deeds.”

Cohen said “blind loyalty” to Trump led him “to take a path of darkness instead of light.”

Cohen was ordered to pay $1.4 million in restitution and a $50,000 fine, and forfeit $500,000.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, December 12, 2018 2:04 PM

REAVERFAN


Oh, dear. Tsk tsk...

Nope, no collusion here...

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Wednesday, December 12, 2018 2:06 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Trump's attorney was sentenced to 3 years in prison and fined/forfeited/restituted almost $2 million. Trump said that if he goes down like Michael Cohen, he is dragging the whole country down with him.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/12/trump-impeachment-cohen-me
mos-reuters-interview.html


Trump, who has maintained that the Mueller probe is a “witch hunt” and that Cohen is lying to investigators to deflect blame from himself, said on Tuesday that Cohen should have known about campaign finance laws. “Michael Cohen is a lawyer. I assume he would know what he’s doing,” Trump said. He then added that, setting aside his own innocence in Cohen’s schemes, Cohen’s actions for his boss were not criminal. “Number one, it wasn’t a campaign contribution. If it were, it’s only civil, and even if it’s only civil, there was no violation based on what we did. OK?”

More generally, he dismissed the special counsel investigation and called the Russia-related parts of the probe “peanut stuff.” He also tried to turn the conversation to Hillary Clinton’s vague and unspecified financial crimes and warned he would not work with Democrats if they continue to support the special counsel investigation and are “going to do presidential harassment.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, December 12, 2018 2:10 PM

THG


The National Enquirer just plead guilty to the cover up as well today.

T



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Wednesday, December 12, 2018 2:37 PM

REAVERFAN


Robert Mueller Already Knows The Dirty Deeds That Michael Cohen Covered Up For Trump
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/12/12/robert-mueller-already-knows-t
he-dirty-deeds-that-michael-cohen-covered-up-for-trump.html?fbclid=IwAR3XWTqouULCeUxiogbDzauhkL9PTtk0PcFXqLLFk780quTvI5oCvJFgGhw


Looks like that "nothing burger" has turned into a double patty with Mueller sauce and a large order of traitor tots!

Let the jailing continue!

This treason will be dealt with.

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Wednesday, December 12, 2018 2:53 PM

THG




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Wednesday, December 12, 2018 3:28 PM

REAVERFAN


'National Enquirer' Owner Admits Paying Off Ex-Playboy Model for Donald Trump

Federal prosecutors agree not to prosecute American Media Inc. for campaign contributions upon the acceptance of responsibility, cooperation with an investigation, and compliance improvements.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/national-enquirer-owner-admi
ts-paying-playboy-model-donald-trump-1168679


Not just paying off, but also silencing those women, just before the election, to keep voters in the dark about Trump's relationship with those women. This is considered Campaign Finance Fraud, and it is a felony. Also, it means that Pecker might have flipped over on Trump and is going to start spilling more dirt all over the place about Trump's shady shit. This along with Maria Butina is going to be very huge in the coming days. Watch this space.

No response from the trolls. What time is it in St. Petersburg?

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Wednesday, December 12, 2018 4:05 PM

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lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, December 12, 2018 7:25 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

But some Cadre of Trolls have mistaken this Real World thread for yet another of their delusion circle-jerk threads. But since no reasonable folk traffic their useless threads, they needed to post some spew here where reasonable folk traffic.

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Wednesday, December 12, 2018 8:05 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
'National Enquirer' Owner Admits Paying Off Ex-Playboy Model for Donald Trump

Federal prosecutors agree not to prosecute American Media Inc. for campaign contributions upon the acceptance of responsibility, cooperation with an investigation, and compliance improvements.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/national-enquirer-owner-admi
ts-paying-playboy-model-donald-trump-1168679


Not just paying off, but also silencing those women, just before the election, to keep voters in the dark about Trump's relationship with those women. This is considered Campaign Finance Fraud, and it is a felony. Also, it means that Pecker might have flipped over on Trump and is going to start spilling more dirt all over the place about Trump's shady shit. This along with Maria Butina is going to be very huge in the coming days. Watch this space.

No response from the trolls. What time is it in St. Petersburg?



The trolls here reaverfan still don't comprehend what is happening to Trump. I'll give them a hint. Cohen just went to jail for 3 years for doing what Trump did as well. Actually, Trump is in more trouble than Cohen because he paid Cohen to do it.

No, they don't have the Wherewithal to see, well, anything.

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Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:39 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Is Trump a Nixon or a Clinton? Cohen’s Crimes Offer a Guide.
www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-12-12/michael-cohen-sentenced-
to-prison-how-will-history-view-the-day


The two modern Washington scandals give us a way to judge the president.

One point for the Watergate side is that the unlawfully structured payments were squarely connected to Trump’s election campaign, just as the Watergate break-in was part of the campaign to re-elect President Richard Nixon in 1972.

The key to the Cohen-Watergate comparison is that the president ordered a subordinate to commit a federal crime as part of his bid for election. Cohen testified to that in court. The federal prosecutors indicated that they believe him.

Indeed, if Trump is not re-elected, it seems altogether possible that the federal prosecutors in New York will bring felony charges against him. They’ve already convicted Cohen, and it would be a strange act of favoritism if they didn’t charge the person whom they believe directed the crime, and for whose benefit it was committed.

In an impeachment, it will be difficult for Trump to defend himself now that Cohen is going to prison. And Cohen’s role in committing and covering up a campaign-finance felony at Trump’s direction will come to look like part of Watergate after all.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:35 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Despite President Donald Trump's public declaration that he isn't concerned about impeachment, he has told people close to him in recent days that he is alarmed by the prospect, according to multiple sources.

“The entire question about whether the president committed an impeachable offense now hinges on the testimony of two men: David Pecker and Allen Weisselberg, both cooperating witnesses in the SDNY investigation," a close Trump ally told NBC News.

Weisselberg is the chief financial officer for Trump organization who was allegedly in the center of the hush money operation. He was reportedly granted immunity for his testimony. Pecker is the chief executive at American Media Inc, the publisher of the National Enquirer.

The developments leave Trump as the lone party who argues the payments were not intended to influence the election.

"I am concerned that the president might be involved in a crime," Republican Sen. Bill Cassidy of Louisiana told reporters Tuesday.

The president has been on a days-long tirade, sources tell NBC News, lashing out at his own staff and lawmakers on Capitol Hill, frustrated by the threat of a Democratic House with subpoena power, an array of looming congressional investigations, multiple intensifying federal probes, a botched effort to find a new chief of staff and a potential partial government shutdown over a lack of funding for his top campaign promise — a border wall.

Trump has ranted about why no one around him is doing anything to stop any of it and vented about the lack of support he believes he has in Congress and within his own White House, the sources tell NBC News.

www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-confides-friends-he-s-conce
rned-about-impeachment-n947296


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, December 14, 2018 1:06 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

Are we waiting for another Monday? Another Year?

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Friday, December 14, 2018 1:41 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Still No Evidence.

Are we waiting for another Monday? Another Year?



Dude, open up your blinds. Let the sunlight into your room, cause you've been void of reality long enough.

T



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Friday, December 14, 2018 3:23 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.

Are we waiting for another Monday? Another Year?



Still No Wall.

What’s Trump waiting for?

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Friday, December 14, 2018 3:29 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Yeah this whole RUSSIA!!! thing? Seems to have imploded. Now it looks like Mueller is going after everything BUT the so-called Russia-Trump "collusion".... flinging poop into the air to distract people from his failure.




If the "final report" comes out and there's no evidence of "collusion" (or conspiracy) with Russia ... how many years will it take for people to admit they were wrong? And will they learn from their mistake?

Seems people need to sit back and wait for the results and not jump to conclusions.


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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Friday, December 14, 2018 3:49 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.

Are we waiting for another Monday? Another Year?



Still No Wall.

What’s Trump waiting for?



Don't know G. I can't think of a good reason why. Must be he wants to continue blaming the democrats for his failure and use it to rally the Trumpets.

Hey how bout that sig huh. Still clinging to the lie no Trump campaign contacts with the Russians. How delusional is that?

T



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Friday, December 14, 2018 8:47 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Oh look! ZeroHedge ... the source you love to hate! ... may have some late-breaking gossip!

Quote:

"Absolute Mayhem" In DC Court As Mueller May Have Made A Move

... Reporters began to gather more than an hour before arguments were scheduled to begin at 9:30 a.m., however no members of Mueller's team, anyone connected to the Russia investigation, or anyone from the Trump administration were spotted. After arguments began, reporters began to huddle outside the courtroom in the hopes of discovering more about the case.

The first case was argued. Then the second. Still nothing. At the end of arguments in the second case, court employees instructed everyone in the courtroom to leave. Court staff and security officials then cleared the entire floor, an unusual occurrence in the courthouse. Reporters scattered, staking out other hallways, stairwells, and exits. At one point at least 20 journalists roamed the courthouse building and its grounds.

After roughly an hour and a half, reporters were allowed back onto the floor, although the courtroom was locked and it wasn't clear if arguments had ended. A little after noon, the courtroom deputy confirmed that the judges were, in fact, done hearing arguments for the day.

"I'm ready to go to sleep forever," one reporter was heard saying as she boarded an elevator to leave. -BuzzFeed


In short - something apparently big happened today in a DC court, which may or may not involve the special counsel's investigation, and nobody knows anything about the case outside of public records showing that the sealed grand jury case was filed in August, made two trips to the DC circuit, lost one appeal - and a second appeal was heard by a three-judge panel on Friday.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-14/absolute-mayhem-manhattan-co
urt-mueller-may-have-made-move


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Friday, December 14, 2018 9:01 PM

THG



I think this needs its own thread. SIG pulls most of her information that she posts here from this blog and stupidly defends it as a reputable source. As she continues to do so I will regenerate this thread to remind all it is a corrupted blog designed to create havoc rather than informing.

Below are the names of those behind zero hedge. Don't miss what I've highlighted in red below. This folks is why comrade troll SIG loves to quote zero hedge.




In addition, Lokey said he faced constant pressure to frame stories in-line with a particular world-view, which he described as “Russia=good. Obama=idiot. Bashar al-Assad=benevolent leader. John Kerry=dunce. Vladmir Putin=greatest leader in the history of statecraft.”



All of this matches SIG's playbook here and Putin's globally; exactly.


The men behind zero hedge

Colin Lokey, a 32-year-old former Seeking Alpha director

Daniel Ivandjiiski, a 37-year-old Bulgarian-born former hedge fund employee who was barred for insider trading in 2008

Tim Backshall, a 45-year-old credit derivatives strategist
Despite its populist tone, Lokey told Bloomberg he recently left Zero Hedge because he didn’t see eye-to-eye with the others when it came to editorial vision.

“Zero Hedge ceased to serve that public service years ago,” Lokey said. “They care what generates page views. Clicks. Money.”

In addition, Lokey said he faced constant pressure to frame stories in-line with a particular world-view, which he described as “Russia=good. Obama=idiot. Bashar al-Assad=benevolent leader. John Kerry=dunce. Vladmir Putin=greatest leader in the history of statecraft.”

Lokey claims Zero Hedge’s focus on traffic and revenue is hypocritical, but Ivandjiiski sees things differently.

Finally, Zero Hedge addressed the accusations of systematic bias in its content.

“We are certainly ok with being the object of other’s conspiracy theories, in this case completely false ones since we have never been in contact with anyone in Russia, or the US, or any government for that matter,” Zero Hedge says.

The site claims it has never accepted a dime of funding outside of advertising revenue and that Lokey was never pressured about how to frame his articles or editorialized.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/zero-hedge-unmasked-theres-more-1427301
65.html

According to the Bloomberg article, three men have been churning out all of the content at Zero Hedge, using the joint pseudonym “Tyler Durden” from the Brad Pitt film “Fight Club.” The 1999 cult film, according to Rolling Stone, is “about being young, male and powerless against the pacifying drug of consumerism. It’s about solitude, despair and bottled-up rage.” That ethos is frequently on display at Zero Hedge.

The three “Tyler Durdens” outed by Bloomberg reporters are Colin Lokey, who has now left Zero Hedge in a fit of pique and is responsible for handing over the internal chat sessions from Zero Hedge on traffic-building strategies and other matters. Bloomberg says “the other two men are Daniel Ivandjiiski, 37, the Bulgarian-born former analyst long reputed to be behind the site, and Tim Backshall, 45, a well-known credit derivatives strategist.”

The article notes that “Ivandjiiski has a multimillion-dollar mansion in Mahwah, N.J., and Backshall lives in a plush San Francisco suburb,” suggesting these are “not exactly reflections” of the anti-capitalism reflected in the moniker “Tyler Durden.”
T





Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh look! ZeroHedge ... the source you love to hate! ... may have some late-breaking gossip!

Quote:

"Absolute Mayhem" In DC Court As Mueller May Have Made A Move

... Reporters began to gather more than an hour before arguments were scheduled to begin at 9:30 a.m., however no members of Mueller's team, anyone connected to the Russia investigation, or anyone from the Trump administration were spotted. After arguments began, reporters began to huddle outside the courtroom in the hopes of discovering more about the case.

The first case was argued. Then the second. Still nothing. At the end of arguments in the second case, court employees instructed everyone in the courtroom to leave. Court staff and security officials then cleared the entire floor, an unusual occurrence in the courthouse. Reporters scattered, staking out other hallways, stairwells, and exits. At one point at least 20 journalists roamed the courthouse building and its grounds.

After roughly an hour and a half, reporters were allowed back onto the floor, although the courtroom was locked and it wasn't clear if arguments had ended. A little after noon, the courtroom deputy confirmed that the judges were, in fact, done hearing arguments for the day.

"I'm ready to go to sleep forever," one reporter was heard saying as she boarded an elevator to leave. -BuzzFeed


In short - something apparently big happened today in a DC court, which may or may not involve the special counsel's investigation, and nobody knows anything about the case outside of public records showing that the sealed grand jury case was filed in August, made two trips to the DC circuit, lost one appeal - and a second appeal was heard by a three-judge panel on Friday.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-14/absolute-mayhem-manhattan-co
urt-mueller-may-have-made-move


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .





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Saturday, December 15, 2018 12:30 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh look! ZeroHedge ... the source you love to hate! ... may have some late-breaking gossip!

Quote:

"Absolute Mayhem" In DC Court As Mueller May Have Made A Move

... Reporters began to gather more than an hour before arguments were scheduled to begin at 9:30 a.m., however no members of Mueller's team, anyone connected to the Russia investigation, or anyone from the Trump administration were spotted. After arguments began, reporters began to huddle outside the courtroom in the hopes of discovering more about the case.

The first case was argued. Then the second. Still nothing. At the end of arguments in the second case, court employees instructed everyone in the courtroom to leave. Court staff and security officials then cleared the entire floor, an unusual occurrence in the courthouse. Reporters scattered, staking out other hallways, stairwells, and exits. At one point at least 20 journalists roamed the courthouse building and its grounds.

After roughly an hour and a half, reporters were allowed back onto the floor, although the courtroom was locked and it wasn't clear if arguments had ended. A little after noon, the courtroom deputy confirmed that the judges were, in fact, done hearing arguments for the day.

"I'm ready to go to sleep forever," one reporter was heard saying as she boarded an elevator to leave. -BuzzFeed


In short - something apparently big happened today in a DC court, which may or may not involve the special counsel's investigation, and nobody knows anything about the case outside of public records showing that the sealed grand jury case was filed in August, made two trips to the DC circuit, lost one appeal - and a second appeal was heard by a three-judge panel on Friday.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-14/absolute-mayhem-manhattan-co
urt-mueller-may-have-made-move


The words in the linky say Manhattan Court, but your quoted text says DC Court and DC circuit.
???

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Saturday, December 15, 2018 3:37 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Trolls seem to get frothed up about No Evidence.

Looking like there will never be any Evidence.

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Saturday, December 15, 2018 4:08 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Not seeing anything offhand to carry over from the other thread. If I do, I will add it here >>>>

*****

Although, I DO have to say that those who are (were?) convinced of "Russian hacking" and "Russian collusion" seem to be posting a contradictory message: On the one hand, they keep pointing to "evidence", and on the other hand they excuse it's lack by saying Well, what do you think Meuller is going to do? Release evidence as soon as he finds it?". You guys - pick one or the other, you can't credibly have both.




OK, after all the Russians and trump campaign staff that have been indicted, plead guilty and as we know there are more to come, I guess sig is ready to admit there was Russian hacking and collusion.

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Saturday, December 15, 2018 5:44 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
all the Russians and trump campaign staff that have been indicted, plead guilty about nothing at all to do with .RUSSIA.TRUMP.COLLUSION. I guess you're ready to admit there was no .RUSSIA.TRUMP.COLLUSION.
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Saturday, December 15, 2018 6:21 PM

THG


I guess the news that 14 of Trumps campaign staff had contacts with the Russians during and after the campaign then lied about it, hasn't reached comrade kiki yet.

I'm sure when it does she'll admit to collusion between the two. I mean, who could be so stupid not the realize that?

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Saturday, December 15, 2018 6:29 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Originally posted by THG:
I guess the news that 14 of Trumps campaign staff had "contacts" with some random "Russians" that weren't actually about collusion hasn't sunk into my thick skull yet.

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Sunday, December 16, 2018 6:08 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Trolls seem to get frothed up about No Evidence.

Looking like there will never be any Evidence.

By repeatedly screaming “NO COLLUSION” Trump has framed the investigation as being about something that legal experts say isn’t even a crime — rather than, say, obstruction of justice.

“Most criminals are convicted often on significant circumstantial evidence, but in the case of politicians, people who like them insist, ‘Show me the money, show me the smoking gun,'” says Paul Rosenzweig, who worked on Ken Starr’s investigation of Bill Clinton.

Prosecutors complain that jurors demand unrealistic levels of forensic evidence of criminality. Trump has capitalized on this by claiming in at least 20 tweets that Mueller doesn’t have “evidence” of crimes committed by him. But the circumstantial evidence of wrongdoing by the president is becoming overwhelming, even though Trump’s supporters are holding out for that smoking gun.

Trump's messaging strategy has set monumentally high standards for Mueller’s investigation; the growing convictions against all his henchmen are offset by the repeated insistence that Mueller has nothing directly on Trump himself.

That wouldn’t be much of a defense in court, but the chances are that Trump won’t have to defend himself in front of a judge. Trump’s jury is Congress — lawmakers who base their views in large part on those of Republicans who voted for Trump. So, while Trump’s angry, repetitive tweeting into the abyss seems crass, the way Trump has framed the probe — so that even his opponents have exceptionally high expectations of Mueller — could be what saves him.

More at https://qz.com/1496496/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, December 16, 2018 7:27 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Originally posted:
all the Russians and trump campaign staff that have been indicted, plead guilty about nothing at all to do with .RUSSIA.TRUMP.COLLUSION. I guess you're ready to admit there was no .RUSSIA.TRUMP.COLLUSION.



tic tac

Some of the Trolls seem to feel it would be an unreasonable and unrealistic burden to expect to find Evidence. Even a minor smidgen of Evidence must be just too difficult for them to point out or identify. Everybody should just be forced to rely entirely upon the hysterical claims and frothed delusions which the Trolls spew.
Pretend crimes which are not crimes, pretend Convictions which are not Convictions, pretend conspiracies of Jaywalking from years before 2015 meaning all subsequent coworkers also conspired to Jaywalk.
Really stretching the bounds of credulity.

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Sunday, December 16, 2018 8:19 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Some of the Trolls seem to feel it would be an unreasonable and unrealistic burden to expect to find Evidence. Even a minor smidgen of Evidence must be just too difficult for them to point out or identify. Everybody should just be forced to rely entirely upon the hysterical claims and frothed delusions which the Trolls spew.
Pretend crimes which are not crimes, pretend Convictions which are not Convictions, pretend conspiracies of Jaywalking from years before 2015 meaning all subsequent coworkers also conspired to Jaywalk.
Really stretching the bounds of credulity.

You realize that you are as nuts as Trump, right? These are the tweets of guy who is flat out crazy and can't stop:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Wow, 19,000 Texts between Lisa Page and her lover, Peter S of the FBI, in charge of the Russia Hoax, were just reported as being wiped clean and gone. Such a big story that will never be covered by the Fake News. Witch Hunt!
8:45 AM - 15 Dec 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1073982314588323845

Someone accuses Trump of doing something horrible, and he goes back at them with all guns blazing.... And admits nothing. When Trump loses, he will declare victory. Trump does the opposite of what a sane person does.

Another tweet: Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Never in the history of our Country has the “press” been more dishonest than it is today. Stories that should be good, are bad. Stories that should be bad, are horrible. Many stories, like with the REAL story on Russia, Clinton & the DNC, seldom get reported. Too bad!
7:37 AM - 15 Dec 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1073965319184678913

Never in the history of America has its president told so many lies....

Before big events, Trump crushes up Adderall and snorts it.

Adderall, a mix of amphetamine/dextroamphetamine, is used to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder – ADHD. It’s exactly what you want your President taking to power a tweet storm -- if you want the maximum craziness from your President.

See the video from a guy who worked with Trump on TV. He reveals that Trump snorts amphetamine:
https://twitter.com/kathygriffin/status/1073400561699979264

The 29 most surreal lines from Donald Trump's Fox News interview
www.cnn.com/2018/12/13/politics/donald-trump-harris-faulkner-michael-c
ohen/index.html

Trump is crazy. It could be the snorting of amphetamine, the dementia of an elderly brain, the stress of the job, or all three, but he is nuts.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, December 16, 2018 9:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Originally posted:
all the Russians and trump campaign staff that have been indicted, plead guilty about nothing at all to do with .RUSSIA.TRUMP.COLLUSION. I guess you're ready to admit there was no .RUSSIA.TRUMP.COLLUSION.



tic tac

Some of the Trolls seem to feel it would be an unreasonable and unrealistic burden to expect to find Evidence. Even a minor smidgen of Evidence must be just too difficult for them to point out or identify. Everybody should just be forced to rely entirely upon the hysterical claims and frothed delusions which the Trolls spew.
Pretend crimes which are not crimes, pretend Convictions which are not Convictions, pretend conspiracies of Jaywalking from years before 2015 meaning all subsequent coworkers also conspired to Jaywalk.
Really stretching the bounds of credulity.



kiki and others SECOND keep saying no collusion because as you point out, as I, G and others have said before, collusion itself is not a chargeable offense. And, as you, I, G and others have also pointed out, the actual charges may include conspiracy, obstruction, money laundering, campaign finance violations, bank fraud and the list goes on. Hell, we could even see the RICO act enacted.

We've seen as many as 36 or so indicted with guilty pleas and jail time in Mueller's attempt to clean house. Comrade kiki and her few cronies post as though none of that reflects back onto Trump. He is now being investigated up the yazoo and the democrats haven't even started yet. This doesn't even include his corrupt cabinet members.

Trump has trashed our intelligence agencies, our justice department, the FBI and so on. Can you blame them for wanting to expose Trump as being the crook.

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Sunday, December 16, 2018 4:51 PM

THG


Oh my goodness. Can they do that? This is terrible____tick tac____T

Democrats are ready to cross Trump’s red line, announcing they will go after Trump’s personal finances, Nancy Pelosi saying they will “take the first steps” toward obtaining Trump’s tax returns.


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Sunday, December 16, 2018 5:37 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Yeah, going after Trump's tax-returns. That'll work to expose .TRUMP.RUSSIA.COLLUSION.

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Sunday, December 16, 2018 7:19 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Yeah, going after Trump's tax-returns. That'll work to expose .TRUMP.RUSSIA.COLLUSION.

They probably already know that the TRUMP.RUSSIA.COLLUSION story isn't going to get them across the finish line.

And the programmed people here, with their convenient memories, are going to "forget" that it was ever an issue with them and pivot to the next red herring that someone drags across their path.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Sunday, December 16, 2018 7:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

Yeah, going after Trump's tax-returns. That'll work to expose .TRUMP.RUSSIA.COLLUSION.



Follow the money comrade stupid.

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Sunday, December 16, 2018 8:16 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Yeah, going after Trump's tax-returns. That'll work to expose .TRUMP.RUSSIA.COLLUSION.

In fact, the further sideways this goes, the more minor the players, the less tenuous the connections, the more it shows there's no 'there' there.

Right now, Pelosi is licking the semen stain off of a blue dress.


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Monday, December 17, 2018 7:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Some of the Trolls seem to feel it would be an unreasonable and unrealistic burden to expect to find Evidence. Even a minor smidgen of Evidence must be just too difficult for them to point out or identify. Everybody should just be forced to rely entirely upon the hysterical claims and frothed delusions which the Trolls spew.
Pretend crimes which are not crimes, pretend Convictions which are not Convictions, pretend conspiracies of Jaywalking from years before 2015 meaning all subsequent coworkers also conspired to Jaywalk.
Really stretching the bounds of credulity.

You realize that you are as nuts as Trump, right? These are the tweets of guy who is flat out crazy and can't stop:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Wow, 19,000 Texts between Lisa Page and her lover, Peter S of the FBI, in charge of the Russia Hoax, were just reported as being wiped clean and gone. Such a big story that will never be covered by the Fake News. Witch Hunt!
8:45 AM - 15 Dec 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1073982314588323845

Someone accuses Trump of doing something horrible, and he goes back at them with all guns blazing.... And admits nothing. When Trump loses, he will declare victory. Trump does the opposite of what a sane person does.

Another tweet: Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Never in the history of our Country has the “press” been more dishonest than it is today. Stories that should be good, are bad. Stories that should be bad, are horrible. Many stories, like with the REAL story on Russia, Clinton & the DNC, seldom get reported. Too bad!
7:37 AM - 15 Dec 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1073965319184678913

Never in the history of America has its president told so many lies....

Before big events, Trump crushes up Adderall and snorts it.

Adderall, a mix of amphetamine/dextroamphetamine, is used to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder – ADHD. It’s exactly what you want your President taking to power a tweet storm -- if you want the maximum craziness from your President.

See the video from a guy who worked with Trump on TV. He reveals that Trump snorts amphetamine:
https://twitter.com/kathygriffin/status/1073400561699979264

The 29 most surreal lines from Donald Trump's Fox News interview
www.cnn.com/2018/12/13/politics/donald-trump-harris-faulkner-michael-c
ohen/index.html

Trump is crazy. It could be the snorting of amphetamine, the dementia of an elderly brain, the stress of the job, or all three, but he is nuts.

Never in the history of America has MSM told so many lies about a President.


Also, can you cite a source not inside your head which supports your claim of Trump snorting Adderal?

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Monday, December 17, 2018 9:21 AM

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Never in the history of America has MSM told so many lies about a President.

You have heard of Forbes magazine? It learned what hold Russian President Vladimir Putin has over Trump.

It happened during the presidential election itself. Trump himself repeatedly stated since entering the presidential race in June 2015 that he had no business in Russia and no interactions with representatives of Russia. It now turns out that Putin knew what the American people didn’t, namely that Donald Trump was throughout the 2016 presidential primary campaign secretly negotiating to build a huge and lucrative hotel in Moscow, which required the personal support of Vladimir Putin.

The fact that Putin knew about Trump’s secret dealings, while the American people didn’t, meant that if Trump didn’t do what Russia wanted, Russia could expose Trump’s lies and so bring him down.

The filing revealed that Mueller’s Office is now investigating the hypothesis that Donald Trump, his campaign, his organization and his associates participated in a massive election fraud, through five interlocking conspiracies — arguably the worst set of crimes against the United States in its history. It’s been obvious that Donald Trump has been acting in a weird way towards America’s adversary, Russia. But until recently, the miscellaneous bits and pieces of the Trump-Russia jigsaw puzzle didn’t fit together in any coherent way.

More at www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2018/12/16/mueller-exposes-putins-ho
ld-over-trump/#f32ba0a48f68


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Also, can you cite a source not inside your head which supports your claim of Trump snorting Adderal?
Adderall, a mix of amphetamine/dextroamphetamine, is used to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder – ADHD. Amphetamine is known as "Speed", exactly what you want an ADHD President to be snorting when he makes decisions.




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Monday, December 17, 2018 9:41 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Never in the history of America has MSM told so many lies about a President.



Which ones? Cites! I might be able to recall one or 2 in the last 3 years that were untrue and were immediately refuted by other media outlets and corrected. Are there lies that currently stand that you can linky to? And of course, prove they are lies? I will take your silence as a "No, I can't - I made that sh*t up. It's just what I heard somewhere" answer.

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Monday, December 17, 2018 11:13 AM

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President Trump has made 3,001 false or misleading claims so far



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