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Saturday, January 23, 2021 6:14 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: It was COOOOOOOOOOOLD here last night. Nothing record breaking, but by far the coldest night we've had around here this year so far. It was pretty warm and sunny two days ago, and yesterday fooled me. When I went out on my back porch to smoke it was so sunny that it still felt warm. I didn't even realize that the high yesterday was only 22 degrees. So when I went out shopping, I wasn't exactly dressed for the occasion, and my hair still wasn't completely dry an hour after I took a shower. (Yeah... I forgot how nice it is to have your hair ready in 1 minute when it's short). It didn't really hit me how cold it was until the wind went right through me while I was unloading my cart in the car, taking the cart back and getting back in the car. Chilled to the bone. I took off my mask and felt something hard behind my ear and almost freaked out imagining what kind of animal or something was on me until I realized that it was my frozen hair. Jeez.... Not feeling under the weather or anything, but I think I'm going to try to limit my time working in the chilly basement today just in case. I'll paint those doors and shelves, then I'll try stripping a few shelves upstairs after laying down some tarps first. Seriously reconsidering having torn up that vinyl floor in the kitchen this early in. But still happy to have gotten it out though too. -------------------------------------------------- A government is a body of people usually, notably, governed by Mark Zuckerborg and Slack Dorsey.
Saturday, January 23, 2021 7:27 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Saturday, January 23, 2021 7:44 PM
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Sunday, January 24, 2021 12:09 AM
Sunday, January 24, 2021 12:20 AM
Sunday, January 24, 2021 3:39 PM
Sunday, January 24, 2021 4:59 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Sunday, January 24, 2021 5:28 PM
BRENDA
Sunday, January 24, 2021 5:47 PM
Sunday, January 24, 2021 5:50 PM
Sunday, January 24, 2021 7:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Hey Jack, methylene chloride can also kill your liver. Be careful with that stuff! Not only is inhaling the vapors not good idea, as a liquid it's also absorbed through skin, and the vapors themselves also penetrate your skin. I'm trying to think of which kind of gloves are capable of keeping it out (butyl rubber? .... heavy duty vinyl? ...) looks like butyl rubber/ PVA (polyvinyl alcohol) https://us.pipglobal.com/en/selector-guides/chemical-permeation/?cid=93 (another website says these types of gloves should be used for one hour only and then allowed to dry for one hour before re-use) butyl rubber 30mils thick or thicker https://www.bencosales.com/glove-safety-cerification/ Viton https://www.indstate.edu/sites/default/files/media/env-safety/pdfs/utah-ehs-glove-selection-guide.pdf PVA or Viton http://amo-csd.lbl.gov/downloads/Chemical%20Resistance%20of%20Gloves.pdf
Sunday, January 24, 2021 7:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Sigh. The storm we just had was supposed to drop a ~quarter of an inch of rain in my area. Local official weather websites indicate less than and eighth of an inch of rain, as does my cachepot rain gauge. The next storm is supposed to drop a ~third of an inch of rain. Lady Rain, please be generous. The land, the plants, and the animals are looking to you.
Sunday, January 24, 2021 11:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: The wind giveth and the wind taketh away. Blessed be the name of the wind.
Sunday, January 24, 2021 11:42 PM
Sunday, January 24, 2021 11:49 PM
Monday, January 25, 2021 10:33 AM
Monday, January 25, 2021 12:40 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: I used to watch it to try and understand what's going on with them. And for the most part it seems like it was brain chemistry (sometimes coupled with dementia) that was clearly driving people's thoughts. Even though to them, they seemed to feel that those ideas were originating from within their mental chatter, and they felt that they were driving that bus (and not passengers). Of the people I saw who got better, most seemed to have to struggle with hoarding in an ongoing way. There was only 1 who seemed to have a revolution of mental state, where he clearly crossed some kind of barrier between it being normal for him, and then he looked back on it and realized how abnormal it was, because it was no longer part of his mental process. But he was different from most. He wasn't so old he was demented. He came to hoarding rather late in life (his 50s). His wife had literally died in the hoard because fire/ EMS couldn't get to her in time and carry her out when she had a medical crisis of her chronic condition. And he sought help for himself. So, one thing or another, he was to me a clear exception. Other than that, it's a mystery to me. Some people as I mentioned earlier were diagnosed with dementia. Some were very emotion-driven and their emotions were all over the place. But others seemed to be rational with good understanding of the world around them ... who just had this need to ... hoard. And that need was driving what COULD have been rational thoughts - I was working on a project and I'll need this later ... except looking around CLEARLY that need to hoard had led to an extreme physical outcome their (many) rationalizations couldn't justify. (I can understand btw how people can 'fail to see' a hoard. Nobody starts a hoard with floors breaking under the weight. It starts with a pile of stuff here, then a pile of stuff there. Over time it becomes an accumulation. But by that time one has grown accustomed to it, and has trained the mind to ignore it as a problem, except for how to navigate, and how to hide it from relatives, friends, neighbors, and code enforcement. I think ignoring the overall environment and focusing down on particulars happens with many circumstances, like for instance the people who live on the trash dumps in the Philippines.) Anyway, I came to no conclusions, and no global understanding, except it seems neurochemical, and with many different elements involved; and possible actually several different causes leading to a singular common noticeable extreme. It seems like a real hodge-podge of things. I don't think anybody knows for sure what kicks it off. You mentioned earlier you didn't believe it to be OCD related, but at the same time nearly every doctor on the show introduces themselves in the beginning of the episode and specifically lists OCD and other anxiety related issues as their expertise. Jury's out on whether or not I have some level of OCD and/or bi-polar disorder. But I'm certainly not suffering from dementia yet. I think I mentioned it before, but the hardest part of getting rid of all of it for me was just getting it out to the curb or packing it up to go to Goodwill. Well... the second hardest after cleaning up all the mouse piss and shit. Unlike the people on the show who are faced with only 2 or 3 days to make decisions, I had the benefit of a lot of time to go through it. Not only that, but I was able to go through it all a second time a few years later and really get rid of stuff. I can see where these people really feel overwhelmed because they had all the time in the world to do it and now they only have a weekend and 30 other pairs of hands all over their things making all the decisions. Even now that I've got a few empty rooms in the house, tons of room in the garage, and everything has a place (when I'm not moving stuff like all the kitchen things to work on it), I know there's still more I can get rid of. I'd say maybe 1/3 to 1/2 of the things I had in the kitchen cabinets and drawers won't make a return trip. Most of my wall hangings will be ditched. Now that I've lived a few summers and I'm going through my 2nd winter since I got my clothing down to a manageable level that fits in a single closet and two dresser, I can take time to go through them again and realize that probably 1/2 of the stuff wasn't worn at all in the last year and a half. And I doubt I'd find too much that I had boxed up in the attic outside of my electronics that I'd still want to hold on to now. When one of my old buddies came to my house for the first time around a year ago one of the first things he said to me was "boy, you're a minimalist, huh?". I'm trying.
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: I used to watch it to try and understand what's going on with them. And for the most part it seems like it was brain chemistry (sometimes coupled with dementia) that was clearly driving people's thoughts. Even though to them, they seemed to feel that those ideas were originating from within their mental chatter, and they felt that they were driving that bus (and not passengers). Of the people I saw who got better, most seemed to have to struggle with hoarding in an ongoing way. There was only 1 who seemed to have a revolution of mental state, where he clearly crossed some kind of barrier between it being normal for him, and then he looked back on it and realized how abnormal it was, because it was no longer part of his mental process. But he was different from most. He wasn't so old he was demented. He came to hoarding rather late in life (his 50s). His wife had literally died in the hoard because fire/ EMS couldn't get to her in time and carry her out when she had a medical crisis of her chronic condition. And he sought help for himself. So, one thing or another, he was to me a clear exception. Other than that, it's a mystery to me. Some people as I mentioned earlier were diagnosed with dementia. Some were very emotion-driven and their emotions were all over the place. But others seemed to be rational with good understanding of the world around them ... who just had this need to ... hoard. And that need was driving what COULD have been rational thoughts - I was working on a project and I'll need this later ... except looking around CLEARLY that need to hoard had led to an extreme physical outcome their (many) rationalizations couldn't justify. (I can understand btw how people can 'fail to see' a hoard. Nobody starts a hoard with floors breaking under the weight. It starts with a pile of stuff here, then a pile of stuff there. Over time it becomes an accumulation. But by that time one has grown accustomed to it, and has trained the mind to ignore it as a problem, except for how to navigate, and how to hide it from relatives, friends, neighbors, and code enforcement. I think ignoring the overall environment and focusing down on particulars happens with many circumstances, like for instance the people who live on the trash dumps in the Philippines.) Anyway, I came to no conclusions, and no global understanding, except it seems neurochemical, and with many different elements involved; and possible actually several different causes leading to a singular common noticeable extreme.
Monday, January 25, 2021 1:24 PM
Monday, January 25, 2021 2:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: I used to watch it to try and understand what's going on with them. And for the most part it seems like it was brain chemistry (sometimes coupled with dementia) that was clearly driving people's thoughts. Even though to them, they seemed to feel that those ideas were originating from within their mental chatter, and they felt that they were driving that bus (and not passengers). Of the people I saw who got better, most seemed to have to struggle with hoarding in an ongoing way. There was only 1 who seemed to have a revolution of mental state, where he clearly crossed some kind of barrier between it being normal for him, and then he looked back on it and realized how abnormal it was, because it was no longer part of his mental process. But he was different from most. He wasn't so old he was demented. He came to hoarding rather late in life (his 50s). His wife had literally died in the hoard because fire/ EMS couldn't get to her in time and carry her out when she had a medical crisis of her chronic condition. And he sought help for himself. So, one thing or another, he was to me a clear exception. Other than that, it's a mystery to me. Some people as I mentioned earlier were diagnosed with dementia. Some were very emotion-driven and their emotions were all over the place. But others seemed to be rational with good understanding of the world around them ... who just had this need to ... hoard. And that need was driving what COULD have been rational thoughts - I was working on a project and I'll need this later ... except looking around CLEARLY that need to hoard had led to an extreme physical outcome their (many) rationalizations couldn't justify. (I can understand btw how people can 'fail to see' a hoard. Nobody starts a hoard with floors breaking under the weight. It starts with a pile of stuff here, then a pile of stuff there. Over time it becomes an accumulation. But by that time one has grown accustomed to it, and has trained the mind to ignore it as a problem, except for how to navigate, and how to hide it from relatives, friends, neighbors, and code enforcement. I think ignoring the overall environment and focusing down on particulars happens with many circumstances, like for instance the people who live on the trash dumps in the Philippines.) Anyway, I came to no conclusions, and no global understanding, except it seems neurochemical, and with many different elements involved; and possible actually several different causes leading to a singular common noticeable extreme. It seems like a real hodge-podge of things. I don't think anybody knows for sure what kicks it off. You mentioned earlier you didn't believe it to be OCD related, but at the same time nearly every doctor on the show introduces themselves in the beginning of the episode and specifically lists OCD and other anxiety related issues as their expertise. Jury's out on whether or not I have some level of OCD and/or bi-polar disorder. But I'm certainly not suffering from dementia yet. I think I mentioned it before, but the hardest part of getting rid of all of it for me was just getting it out to the curb or packing it up to go to Goodwill. Well... the second hardest after cleaning up all the mouse piss and shit. Unlike the people on the show who are faced with only 2 or 3 days to make decisions, I had the benefit of a lot of time to go through it. Not only that, but I was able to go through it all a second time a few years later and really get rid of stuff. I can see where these people really feel overwhelmed because they had all the time in the world to do it and now they only have a weekend and 30 other pairs of hands all over their things making all the decisions. Even now that I've got a few empty rooms in the house, tons of room in the garage, and everything has a place (when I'm not moving stuff like all the kitchen things to work on it), I know there's still more I can get rid of. I'd say maybe 1/3 to 1/2 of the things I had in the kitchen cabinets and drawers won't make a return trip. Most of my wall hangings will be ditched. Now that I've lived a few summers and I'm going through my 2nd winter since I got my clothing down to a manageable level that fits in a single closet and two dresser, I can take time to go through them again and realize that probably 1/2 of the stuff wasn't worn at all in the last year and a half. And I doubt I'd find too much that I had boxed up in the attic outside of my electronics that I'd still want to hold on to now. When one of my old buddies came to my house for the first time around a year ago one of the first things he said to me was "boy, you're a minimalist, huh?". I'm trying.Since then I've have seen "Citizen Kane" (1941), winner the Oscar for Best Picture. In early scenes, Kane is accumulating art, enough for 5 museums. In the last scenes, after his death, the art is shown still in shipping crates in Kane's mansion. The movie never used the word hoarder, but it was all about Kane's psychology. Maybe more ordinary hoarders are making, at least inside their heads, extraordinary lives and enormous cleanups after death similar to Charles Foster Kane's? https://www.metacritic.com/movie/citizen-kane-1941/critic-reviews
Monday, January 25, 2021 2:35 PM
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Monday, January 25, 2021 7:31 PM
Monday, January 25, 2021 7:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: ... today we will be going thru her coin "collection" (hoard) which is scattered all over the dinging room table, and see what we can do with that. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
Monday, January 25, 2021 7:41 PM
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Monday, January 25, 2021 11:24 PM
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Tuesday, January 26, 2021 3:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: ... today we will be going thru her coin "collection" (hoard) which is scattered all over the dinging room table, and see what we can do with that. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
Tuesday, January 26, 2021 4:01 AM
Tuesday, January 26, 2021 4:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: ... plus I need to get back with Terminix to get more details on heat treatment v tenting/fumigation. Have you heard anything about either one, pro or con? ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
Tuesday, January 26, 2021 9:06 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SIX, just to put in my $0.02 about solvents... I was developing an x-ray method for determining lead in gasoline (involved using a bismuth internal standard and it worked fabulously; now they would prolly just use ICPMS, but I digress). Well, the instrument was in the middle of the lab, it was there for solids and filter samples and nobody had bothered too put in venting, but I was working with gasoline. Innocuous right? Just gasoline. And all went swimmingly for a week or so when I was hit with a blinding headache. Gasoline at the time contained both benzene (known human carcinogen) and hexane. And hexane specifically causes thalamic swelling, which prolly accounted for the headache. Same thing happened when I was reorganizing the sample storage room ... we did a lot of paint analysis so we had a lot of house paints, solvents, and industrial maintenance paints. THAT time I wound up sick to my stomaches. Methylene chloride is one of those rate chemicals that are KNOWN human carcinogens, so in addition to being acutely toxic it can have long term effects down the road. So just be careful. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
Tuesday, January 26, 2021 9:09 AM
Tuesday, January 26, 2021 9:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: And doesn't NMP solvent cause heart damage?
Tuesday, January 26, 2021 9:14 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: It's not done snowing but we didn't get 12" last night. Sadly, it's more than the 1" I was hoping for, but with the worst behind us it's not more than possibly 3". Looks like it missed us.... this time. -------------------------------------------------- A government is a body of people usually, notably, governed by Mark Zuckerborg and Slack Dorsey.
Tuesday, January 26, 2021 11:10 AM
Tuesday, January 26, 2021 12:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Yup. Been great so far, but I've just damned myself by even thinking those words out loud. You be safe when working with the chemicals too. And just keep in mind that whatever new "safe" ones that they're putting out have a pretty good chance of not being safe at all one day in retrospect. I'm posting this picture again because I'm just as petty and narcissistic as Nilbog says I am and I need some validation, dammit. -------------------------------------------------- A government is a body of people usually, notably, governed by Mark Zuckerborg and Slack Dorsey.
Tuesday, January 26, 2021 12:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: WONDERFUL! Lady Rain was generous with her sweet rainfall at the Santa Fe Dam (nearest station to me by the foothills). Going into January we were already over 3 inches behind, and this rainfall puts January at only 3 more inches behind, but it was more than predicted. And maybe we'll get even more rain in the next few days. https://www.laalmanac.com/weather/we138b.php Rain and snow is what keeps all the green green. It's how one pays for a fire-free environment. Otherwise, things dry up, then fire takes hold.
Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:14 PM
Quote: Atmospheric River Strikes California by Tyler Durden Tuesday, Jan 26, 2021 - 9:45 On Tuesday, Bloomberg points out that multiple weather systems are traversing the country with high accumulating snow probabilities from the Southwest to the Northeast. Source: Bloomberg Today's top weather events (courtesy of Bloomberg): California ordered evacuations in some parts as a drenching storm known as an atmospheric river is poised to dump rain and snow, potentially setting off mudslides in a state that's still recuperating from its worst-ever fire season. Atmospheric rivers can unleash about the same amount of water that flows out of the Mississippi River's mouth. They cost an average of $1.1 billion in damages annually. Wind gusts and 17-foot waves are further snarling port traffic in Los Angeles. The Midwest is being pummeled by snow and areas of the Southwest, including Arizona and Utah, are in for more than a foot through tonight. The Northeast may get a sprinkling. * * * A narrow corridor of highly concentrated moisture in the atmosphere, otherwise known as an atmospheric river (AR), is set to strike California by mid-week, leaving lower elevations with torrential rainfall and higher elevations in the Sierra Nevada, with feet of snow. AR will approach the Golden State by midweek. The long plume of moisture in the atmosphere stretches from the Pacific Ocean subtropic will dump much-needed rain and increase the snowpack to combat an ongoing drought in the state. Atmospheric river set up looks more probable Wednesday - Friday as moisture values 200-400% above normal stall over Southern and Central California. With vulnerable and fire scarred landscape, threat for flooding and landslides and mountains of mountain snow! #CAwx pic.twitter.com/4FYUbi4tL8 — Jeff Berardelli (@WeatherProf) January 23, 2021 The Weather Channel reports the heaviest rain this week will be observed in Northern and Central California that will start late Tuesday and continue through Thursday. Other locations, including the Bay Area southward to Big Sur and parts of San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara counties, could see more than 3 inches of rain. By late week, the system will shift southward toward Los Angeles and San Diego. The National Weather Service (NWS) has issued flash flood watches from the northern Bay Area southward to Monterey. NWS has also issued high wind watches from the Sacramento Valley to the Bay Area southward to around Monterey. In elevations above 4,500 feet, especially in the northern Sierra, this region could see accumulating snowfall of 7 feet this week. In about a week, California goes from one of the driest six-month stretches (as we noted last week) in state history to one that could potentially be very wet and snowy depending on elevations.
Tuesday, January 26, 2021 3:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Oh, yeah, I wanted to comment on this Dear daughter: "I like the unpainted ones better."
Quote:But I like the painted ones myself.
Quote:When I expand the picture you're right: I can see the wood thru the paint (lower left).
Quote:NICE JOB, SIX! How do you get the paint so even?
Quote:Are the two painted ones after sanding?
Quote:Because the only way I know how to get such an even layer is spray paint.
Quote:Also, are you using water or oil-based?
Quote:I can see that you're a perfectionist. I'll bet your kitchen is going to look absolutely marvelous when you're done. I get the idea that the doors will be white but the boxes will be another color to contrast with the white tile (correct?) but I'm really curious: what color will you choose? I'm dying to find out.
Quote:Also, I looke up the website for hosting pix. Once I strip the metadata off my pix I might post some too. But that won't be for a long while: Not until my projects are picture-worthy!
Tuesday, January 26, 2021 5:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Wow. For this year or last year? -------------------------------------------------- A government is a body of people usually, notably, governed by Mark Zuckerborg and Slack Dorsey.
Tuesday, January 26, 2021 5:38 PM
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Tuesday, January 26, 2021 6:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Wow. For this year or last year? -------------------------------------------------- A government is a body of people usually, notably, governed by Mark Zuckerborg and Slack Dorsey. It was for 2020. It came from the US and the lady who sent it said she was getting her cards late in the mail. But the hold up with its delivery must have been at the border because the post mark says and I kid you not on this "Dec.19,2020."
Tuesday, January 26, 2021 6:37 PM
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