In the garden, and RAIN!!!! by SIGNYM

I'm not cloggging up the garden with your BS here, and I won't even read it in this thread.

Feel free to create a new thread on the topic or post it in one of your other threads if you want to continue it.

Any further posting from you in the Garden will go completely ignored.

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Wednesday, January 20, 2021 11:15 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

6ix, try using gel to remove paint, varnish, adhesive from the kitchen cabinets you are refinishing. There are numerous effective choices that will work without poisoning you or the air.
https://www.google.com/search?q=gel+to+remove+paint

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not cloggging up the garden with your BS here, and I won't even read it in this thread.

Feel free to create a new thread on the topic or post it in one of your other threads if you want to continue it.

Any further posting from you in the Garden will go completely ignored.

6ix, that is very Trumptardish of you.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, January 20, 2021 12:39 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Hey, SECOND, feel free to tell us what you've been doing in the part of your life that DOESN'T involve politics. How's the wife and kid? The house? Any interesting hobbies, besides politics? Health?

Otherwise, you will be relentlessly ignored, because we don't feed trolls here.

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Wednesday, January 20, 2021 1:03 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

So, speaking of rain ... I see we're due for a change of weather soon. Starting Saturday, showers most days as far as the ten-day can see. That will be a welcome relief, because the last time we had rain was Dec 27/28, and since then it's been cool and dry, or HOT (for winter, 95F) and dry, but it's been dry, dry, dry.

Haven't checked the national forecast, but it looks like the jet stream wll swing these storms to our northeast. Good thing, because the situation just west of Four Corners looks pretty dire (Utah and Arizona, and the eastern Sierras mostly) according to the drought monitor.

Then surely, as day follows night, the weather will clear at some point and all of the happy weed seeds will start sprouting. (Given the density of sprouting weeds, I feel I have at 25-100 weed seeds per cubic inch of soil.) But that's OK because I have my trusty flame thrower and another bottle of concentrated weed killer.)

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Wednesday, January 20, 2021 1:54 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hey, SECOND, feel free to tell us what you've been doing in the part of your life that DOESN'T involve politics. How's the wife and kid? The house? Any interesting hobbies, besides politics? Health?

Otherwise, you will be relentlessly ignored, because we don't feed trolls here.

I thank both Signym and 6ix. I read "In the garden and RAIN" always, looking for news. Hoarders, the American TV show, was the first interesting news to me in very long time of reading this thread.

The UK version, Hoarders Britain's Biggest Hoard, is another treasure I was unaware of.

"Hoarders.Britains.Biggest.Hoard.S01E04.480p.x264-mSD[eztv.io].mkv"

https://www.google.com/search?q=Hoarders+Britain%27s+Biggest+Hoard

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Wednesday, January 20, 2021 3:52 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hey, SECOND, feel free to tell us what you've been doing in the part of your life that DOESN'T involve politics. How's the wife and kid? The house? Any interesting hobbies, besides politics? Health?

Otherwise, you will be relentlessly ignored, because we don't feed trolls here.

Agreed. You're more than welcome here Second. So is anybody else, really.

Politics free zone though, and hopefully no more shit posting too.

Hoarders is a pretty awesome show though, innit? I haven't seen any of season 10 yet. Latest ones they have up on youtube were a few from season 9, and the last time I binge watched seasons was probably around season 6.

Glad you're enjoying it.

And I didn't even know there was a UK version, so thanks for pointing that out. Got a lot more episodes to watch now.

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Wednesday, January 20, 2021 4:00 PM

I'm so glad that at least the doors were added at a later date and they were covered with some sort of poly that is easy to remove and paint over.

I was able to hand sand the rough spots down on the first primer coat on the first four doors with a medium grit sanding sponge and a sheet of 150 grit paper. I'm going to have to be even more careful painting the insides of the decorative edges on the fronts though. Thin coats is the trick. It's really hard to sand out any built up paint without damaging all the paint around it and takes 3 times as long to do as just taking more care when painting would.

The two shelves I treated yesterday seem to be holding the primer well enough. I'll get a better feel tomorrow when I sand them down if I think the lacquer still in the wood is going to be a problem for them. They're kind of my testing ground before I know for sure what I'm going to do with the cabinet boxes themselves.

I'll probably work on drilling holes on some more doors and sanding them down to prime once the existing doors an shelves are done. I can do about 6 at a time. I'm sure I could add a few more, but since I'm doing them on the floor in a cold hard concrete basement, I really don't want to spend too much more time down there at once than that anyhow. Maybe I'll try cleaning a shelf or two later tonight since I figured out a way to work on those with a tarp over my couch and on the floor so I can watch TV while I'm working on prepping them.

REALLY looking forward to spring and having access to my garage again.

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Wednesday, January 20, 2021 4:06 PM

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And I didn't even know there was a UK version, so thanks for pointing that out. Got a lot more episodes to watch now.

This is charming and only 8 minutes. The hoarder in the UK let go of his excess possessions gracefully and with good cheer:

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Wednesday, January 20, 2021 4:54 PM

Hearing test done now I go back in three months when I will be due for new ones. This new place I went to also has to get my file from the place I originally got my hearing aides.

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Wednesday, January 20, 2021 4:55 PM

I've got bits of Hoarders on YouTube. Not my thing.

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Wednesday, January 20, 2021 5:41 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

I used to watch it to try and understand what's going on with them. And for the most part it seems like it was brain chemistry (sometimes coupled with dementia) that was clearly driving people's thoughts. Even though to them, they seemed to feel that those ideas were originating from within their mental chatter, and they felt that they were driving that bus (and not passengers).

Of the people I saw who got better, most seemed to have to struggle with hoarding in an ongoing way.

There was only 1 who seemed to have a revolution of mental state, where he clearly crossed some kind of barrier between it being normal for him, and then he looked back on it and realized how abnormal it was, because it was no longer part of his mental process.

But he was different from most. He wasn't so old he was demented. He came to hoarding rather late in life (his 50s). His wife had literally died in the hoard because fire/ EMS couldn't get to her in time and carry her out when she had a medical crisis of her chronic condition. And he sought help for himself. So, one thing or another, he was to me a clear exception.

Other than that, it's a mystery to me. Some people as I mentioned earlier were diagnosed with dementia. Some were very emotion-driven and their emotions were all over the place. But others seemed to be rational with good understanding of the world around them ... who just had this need to ... hoard. And that need was driving what COULD have been rational thoughts - I was working on a project and I'll need this later ... except looking around CLEARLY that need to hoard had led to an extreme physical outcome their (many) rationalizations couldn't justify.

(I can understand btw how people can 'fail to see' a hoard. Nobody starts a hoard with floors breaking under the weight. It starts with a pile of stuff here, then a pile of stuff there. Over time it becomes an accumulation. But by that time one has grown accustomed to it, and has trained the mind to ignore it as a problem, except for how to navigate, and how to hide it from relatives, friends, neighbors, and code enforcement. I think ignoring the overall environment and focusing down on particulars happens with many circumstances, like for instance the people who live on the trash dumps in the Philippines.)

Anyway, I came to no conclusions, and no global understanding, except it seems neurochemical, and with many different elements involved; and possible actually several different causes leading to a singular common noticeable extreme.

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Wednesday, January 20, 2021 7:54 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Six, a couple of other things to try with that "gunk": Rubbing alcohol on a rag is one option. You'll know right away if it works or not, tends not to raise grain as much as water, and evaporates to leave a paintable surface.

Another option is standard paint remover. There are all kinds of formulations (too bad they took methylene chloride out of the list; sure, it causes cancer but it worked GREAT!). Orange-oil based, or Simple Green, will eventually evaporate out, but your cupboards will smell for a long, long time.

One thing to think about: if you use an "oily" formula like mineral oil (SAME AS BABY OIL BTW, if you just want to try a little bit) the oil will soak into the wood and you will be required to use oil-based paint bc water-based won't stick.

One more thing to try: butyl cellosolve. It's available on Amazon, is a great water-soluble degreaser and might cut thru the gunk. If you have Krud Kutter (their formula for cutting thru grease; they have several available) you could try that.

But I'd start with rubbing alcohol.

Let us know how it's working out!

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Wednesday, January 20, 2021 8:30 PM

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And I didn't even know there was a UK version, so thanks for pointing that out. Got a lot more episodes to watch now.
This is charming and only 8 minutes. The hoarder in the UK let go of his excess possessions gracefully and with good cheer:

Yeah. They usually don't go that well. Usually somebody has to break down before they let it all go.

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Wednesday, January 20, 2021 8:30 PM

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I've got bits of Hoarders on YouTube. Not my thing.

Yeah. I'm sure it's not for everyone. My brother can't stand the show.

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Wednesday, January 20, 2021 8:40 PM

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I used to watch it to try and understand what's going on with them. And for the most part it seems like it was brain chemistry (sometimes coupled with dementia) that was clearly driving people's thoughts. Even though to them, they seemed to feel that those ideas were originating from within their mental chatter, and they felt that they were driving that bus (and not passengers).

Of the people I saw who got better, most seemed to have to struggle with hoarding in an ongoing way.

There was only 1 who seemed to have a revolution of mental state, where he clearly crossed some kind of barrier between it being normal for him, and then he looked back on it and realized how abnormal it was, because it was no longer part of his mental process.

But he was different from most. He wasn't so old he was demented. He came to hoarding rather late in life (his 50s). His wife had literally died in the hoard because fire/ EMS couldn't get to her in time and carry her out when she had a medical crisis of her chronic condition. And he sought help for himself. So, one thing or another, he was to me a clear exception.

Other than that, it's a mystery to me. Some people as I mentioned earlier were diagnosed with dementia. Some were very emotion-driven and their emotions were all over the place. But others seemed to be rational with good understanding of the world around them ... who just had this need to ... hoard. And that need was driving what COULD have been rational thoughts - I was working on a project and I'll need this later ... except looking around CLEARLY that need to hoard had led to an extreme physical outcome their (many) rationalizations couldn't justify.

(I can understand btw how people can 'fail to see' a hoard. Nobody starts a hoard with floors breaking under the weight. It starts with a pile of stuff here, then a pile of stuff there. Over time it becomes an accumulation. But by that time one has grown accustomed to it, and has trained the mind to ignore it as a problem, except for how to navigate, and how to hide it from relatives, friends, neighbors, and code enforcement. I think ignoring the overall environment and focusing down on particulars happens with many circumstances, like for instance the people who live on the trash dumps in the Philippines.)

Anyway, I came to no conclusions, and no global understanding, except it seems neurochemical, and with many different elements involved; and possible actually several different causes leading to a singular common noticeable extreme.

It seems like a real hodge-podge of things. I don't think anybody knows for sure what kicks it off. You mentioned earlier you didn't believe it to be OCD related, but at the same time nearly every doctor on the show introduces themselves in the beginning of the episode and specifically lists OCD and other anxiety related issues as their expertise.

Jury's out on whether or not I have some level of OCD and/or bi-polar disorder. But I'm certainly not suffering from dementia yet.

I think I mentioned it before, but the hardest part of getting rid of all of it for me was just getting it out to the curb or packing it up to go to Goodwill. Well... the second hardest after cleaning up all the mouse piss and shit.

Unlike the people on the show who are faced with only 2 or 3 days to make decisions, I had the benefit of a lot of time to go through it. Not only that, but I was able to go through it all a second time a few years later and really get rid of stuff.

I can see where these people really feel overwhelmed because they had all the time in the world to do it and now they only have a weekend and 30 other pairs of hands all over their things making all the decisions.

Even now that I've got a few empty rooms in the house, tons of room in the garage, and everything has a place (when I'm not moving stuff like all the kitchen things to work on it), I know there's still more I can get rid of.

I'd say maybe 1/3 to 1/2 of the things I had in the kitchen cabinets and drawers won't make a return trip. Most of my wall hangings will be ditched. Now that I've lived a few summers and I'm going through my 2nd winter since I got my clothing down to a manageable level that fits in a single closet and two dresser, I can take time to go through them again and realize that probably 1/2 of the stuff wasn't worn at all in the last year and a half. And I doubt I'd find too much that I had boxed up in the attic outside of my electronics that I'd still want to hold on to now.

When one of my old buddies came to my house for the first time around a year ago one of the first things he said to me was "boy, you're a minimalist, huh?".

I'm trying.

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Wednesday, January 20, 2021 8:52 PM

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Six, a couple of other things to try with that "gunk": Rubbing alcohol on a rag is one option. You'll know right away if it works or not, tends not to raise grain as much as water, and evaporates to leave a paintable surface.

Another option is standard paint remover. There are all kinds of formulations (too bad they took methylene chloride out of the list; sure, it causes cancer but it worked GREAT!). Orange-oil based, or Simple Green, will eventually evaporate out, but your cupboards will smell for a long, long time.

One thing to think about: if you use an "oily" formula like mineral oil (SAME AS BABY OIL BTW, if you just want to try a little bit) the oil will soak into the wood and you will be required to use oil-based paint bc water-based won't stick.

One more thing to try: butyl cellosolve. It's available on Amazon, is a great water-soluble degreaser and might cut thru the gunk. If you have Krud Kutter (their formula for cutting thru grease; they have several available) you could try that.

But I'd start with rubbing alcohol.

Let us know how it's working out!

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I'm not sure if we're still on the same page here Sigs. It turns out that the two shelves witht eh "gunk" on them were just the tip of the iceburg. Every shelf is a problem, as well as the interior of all the original cabinets. The issue is the late 50's/early 60's lacquer.

Polyurethane is much easier to remove and cover, even though it actually does a much better job protecting wood long term. (It's why you don't see lacquer used that often anymore, unless somebody specifically just loves the look of it).

The poly just sits on top of the stained surface, but the lacquer is actually absorbed into the top layer of the wood. This is why even after giving a few shelves several wipe downs of mineral spirits and steel wool scrubs, I still can't sand them without immediately clogging up the sandpaper with crud that will eventually just melt and rub and leave dark gunk that is hard to remove even with a blade.

I'm still very skeptical that even with the amount of work that I've done the primer and paint will hold, so I'm testing it on a few shelves for now. The internet says it's okay as long as it's washed and sanded down a bit if you use a good primer, and the primer I had says that it can cover lacquer, but I don't know.

If my stepdad still had his shop, I could just get some of the stuff he used to use. I'm pretty sure you can buy something similar in consumer quantities, but he had several very large containers that you'd press a button on the front like a large water container and you'd slowly fill up a cups this viscous stuff oozed into it. You'd then "paint" it on the surface, give it a specified amount of time to do its work, then scrape it off.

I never learned all that much about his process, but knowing what I know now about lacquer, I'd assume that by leaving this "snot" on the surface for a few hours, it actually bleeds the lacquer out of the wood for you to properly remove it.

In any event, I'll have to use a solution that will allow for latex paint. I'm already loaded up on latex paint and primer, and except for a few specific uses, I try to avoid using oil based paints.

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Wednesday, January 20, 2021 9:55 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Lacquer thinner might work, used with a very coarse sanding sponge.

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Wednesday, January 20, 2021 10:34 PM

Maybe...

I think I'm going to bite the bullet and just buy something like this.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Minwax-32-fl-oz-Regular-Varnish-Lacquer-Shell
ac-Stripper-Liquid/1000894140?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-pnt-_-google-_-lia-_-219-_-interiorstains-_-1000894140-_-0&placeholder=null&ds_rl=1286981&gclid=CjwKCAiAxp-ABhALEiwAXm6IyVE4vd__05c9okgcWf0Qigq6rIpG1iUDMLMmqjk4d3ZPlWQjdcR3ZhoC7KYQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

If the advertising is to be believed, I could probably remove the lacquer from the inside of all of my cabinets in about half of the time it would take me to do a couple of shelves the way I was doing them.

Pretty sure this is similar to what my stepdad used in his shop.

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Thursday, January 21, 2021 12:20 AM

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I've got bits of Hoarders on YouTube. Not my thing.

Yeah. I'm sure it's not for everyone. My brother can't stand the show.

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No, it's not. But I have taken to watching "My 600lb Life" even thought I most likely will never tip the scale at anything approaching that weight or need the kind of help people being in and around that weight range will.

Guess you could just chalk it up to curiosity.

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Thursday, January 21, 2021 4:37 AM

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The reason why I suggested rubbing alcohol is because real lacquer was made from the exudate of the "lac" beetle, and dissolved in alcohol. Not sure if you have "real" lacquer or not, but rubbing alcohol would be cheap to test.

But, I know what you mean. Hubby got a kitchen table from some friends of his that we have to this day. Made of slats of beautiful maple glued together, but it had been coated with some dark brown tacky stuff. Given that he got the table sometime in the mid-70s, it may have even been the same kind of crap that's on your cabinets.

When we married, the table was part of our furniture, but was too sticky and awful to use, so while I was looking for a job I was also re-habbing our apartment (the one with the curried cabinets and walls and ... unbeknownst to me ... lead paint everywhere) and decided to refinish the table. I too had this "gelatinous stuff" pain stripper, but mine had methylene chloride in it, which you can't get today. It took several coatings and scrapings just to get the piece sand-able, and there were some wine stains and burn marks that I just couldn't sand out w/o removing too much wood but eventually got it to bare wood. Finished it with oil-based something like a "Danish finish" (PU mixed with mineral spirits and a little tung oil for the first few coats followed by straight PU for durability) and it has held up beautiflly and looks better and warmer every year. (Hubby builds, I do the finishing.)

Anyway, just to get bck to my original post, nowadays, with years of paint, coating, and solvent formulation analysis behind me, I would prolly try something really simple first, like rubbing alcohol, just because it's so easy to test and cheap to buy.

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Thursday, January 21, 2021 4:48 AM

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well, been chipping away at the backyard, and after hubby trimming out the overgrown shrubbery and trees at the back wall, and dear daughter flaming many weedy spots, and me digging up more, and us taking out all of the recyclable metal (got about $5.50 which more than paid for gas) and me trashing some of the biggter deteriorated items, ripping out and cutting back the very overgrown fern, coralling and corrective-pruning the roses and in general just sweeping up, when I walk out the back door it feels and looks a lot better. There are still many things to do, but the improvement is noticeable at first glance. I feel comfortable walking out there instead of wincing at the mess.

It was very WINDY a couple of days ago, for the flatlands of LA. Gusts up to 35 mph at times and from the east - something the trees around here not used to! Which accounts for all of the damn palm fronds on the roof, the old nests that got blown down from the trees, and also the (dried out) bird egg that must have gotten blown out of an old nest. It's quite big ... over 1" length and about 3/4" across... and except for a little hole it's in one piece. all white. Too big for a small bird (sparrow, etc) and too small for a crow or raven. Maybe pigeon or scrub jay or mockingbird?

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Thursday, January 21, 2021 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by Brenda:
I've got bits of Hoarders on YouTube. Not my thing.

Yeah. I'm sure it's not for everyone. My brother can't stand the show.

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No, it's not. But I have taken to watching "My 600lb Life" even thought I most likely will never tip the scale at anything approaching that weight or need the kind of help people being in and around that weight range will.

Guess you could just chalk it up to curiosity.

I think every one of us has probably had plenty of bad things to say about "reality TV" over the years, but I doubt that any of us haven't accidentally stumbled onto one or two of them that we couldn't watch for one reason or antoher.

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Thursday, January 21, 2021 11:51 AM

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The reason why I suggested rubbing alcohol is because real lacquer was made from the exudate of the "lac" beetle, and dissolved in alcohol. Not sure if you have "real" lacquer or not, but rubbing alcohol would be cheap to test.

But, I know what you mean. Hubby got a kitchen table from some friends of his that we have to this day. Made of slats of beautiful maple glued together, but it had been coated with some dark brown tacky stuff. Given that he got the table sometime in the mid-70s, it may have even been the same kind of crap that's on your cabinets.

When we married, the table was part of our furniture, but was too sticky and awful to use, so while I was looking for a job I was also re-habbing our apartment (the one with the curried cabinets and walls and ... unbeknownst to me ... lead paint everywhere) and decided to refinish the table. I too had this "gelatinous stuff" pain stripper, but mine had methylene chloride in it, which you can't get today. It took several coatings and scrapings just to get the piece sand-able, and there were some wine stains and burn marks that I just couldn't sand out w/o removing too much wood but eventually got it to bare wood. Finished it with oil-based something like a "Danish finish" (PU mixed with mineral spirits and a little tung oil for the first few coats followed by straight PU for durability) and it has held up beautiflly and looks better and warmer every year. (Hubby builds, I do the finishing.)

Anyway, just to get bck to my original post, nowadays, with years of paint, coating, and solvent formulation analysis behind me, I would prolly try something really simple first, like rubbing alcohol, just because it's so easy to test and cheap to buy.

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Well, fortunately I won't have to worry about any burn marks since I'll be painting. Not even too worried if I accidentally gouge the wood since I've already got a massive wood filling job ahead of me covering some shoddy OG carpentry, some shoddy additions, and just some bumps and bruises that it's gotten over the years. Particularly in the corners of the top cabinets. My new corner pieces shouldn't only hide the fact these cabinets weren't installed level, but they should protect the corners from any future damage too.

I have no idea what they put on these cabinets, and I'm just assuming it's lacquer because of the time frame, but it looks like two different mixtures. Under the veneer that was added later, and on the inside of the front of the boxes where the new hidden hinges will be screwed, the fronts of the cabinets look very dark and could be the exact same stuff you had on that table you stripped. Inside the finish has a golden hue. It actually set off some nostalgia when I realized that my grandma and grandpa's entire house was this color. Every square inch of wood trim, including the full wood panel walls in their porch. It was put on real sloppy though, and you can see a lot of hardened drips that look like honey on the inside walls.

I've got some rubbing alcohol on hand. I'll give that a shot today before I go out and buy the snot. It would be a much cheaper solution, and I'm sure that working with it will be a lot better for my health than whatever is in that other stuff since I can't be opening windows right now.

Oh... and one really nice thing I can say about these cabinets I'm working with is that if I do them right they'll hold up another 60 years. A while back I had helped somebody install brand new cabinets that cost them $18,000 without any labor costs and although the doors and faces are good quality, the boxes were put together with garbage. As long as they keep humidity out of the house and keep the cabinets clean, it should last them a long time, but if they got the abuse that my cabinets got for a few decades you might as well just throw them out because they won't even be able to hold up the shelves anymore.

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Thursday, January 21, 2021 12:01 PM

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well, been chipping away at the backyard, and after hubby trimming out the overgrown shrubbery and trees at the back wall, and dear daughter flaming many weedy spots, and me digging up more, and us taking out all of the recyclable metal (got about $5.50 which more than paid for gas) and me trashing some of the biggter deteriorated items, ripping out and cutting back the very overgrown fern, coralling and corrective-pruning the roses and in general just sweeping up, when I walk out the back door it feels and looks a lot better. There are still many things to do, but the improvement is noticeable at first glance. I feel comfortable walking out there instead of wincing at the mess.

It was very WINDY a couple of days ago, for the flatlands of LA. Gusts up to 35 mph at times and from the east - something the trees around here not used to! Which accounts for all of the damn palm fronds on the roof, the old nests that got blown down from the trees, and also the (dried out) bird egg that must have gotten blown out of an old nest. It's quite big ... over 1" length and about 3/4" across... and except for a little hole it's in one piece. all white. Too big for a small bird (sparrow, etc) and too small for a crow or raven. Maybe pigeon or scrub jay or mockingbird?

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Have I mentioned yet how jealous I am of your weather right now?

Getting things clean and remodeled inside feels really good, but doing that outside work is great, innit? Your house is kind of a reflection of you and a large part of how other people in the neighborhood percieve you.

A few years ago I was working on the outside for only two purposes. The first was to try to redirect water, remove pests and just stop any further neglect damage entirely. The second was just so nobody sent anybody around to check the place when I had a hoard and porch with a rotting out floor.

Last summer, even though I was still making improvements for the longevity of the house, more than half of the work I did outside was just pride work in keeping up a great looking place outside, and just really enjoying the nice weather while experiencing the first time I lived here where I didn't feel ashamed of the state of things.

Oh.. and I read it yesterday but forgot to congratulate you on getting all those old metal pipes out of your life once and for all.

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Thursday, January 21, 2021 1:37 PM

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I've got bits of Hoarders on YouTube. Not my thing.

Yeah. I'm sure it's not for everyone. My brother can't stand the show.

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No, it's not. But I have taken to watching "My 600lb Life" even thought I most likely will never tip the scale at anything approaching that weight or need the kind of help people being in and around that weight range will.

Guess you could just chalk it up to curiosity.

I think every one of us has probably had plenty of bad things to say about "reality TV" over the years, but I doubt that any of us haven't accidentally stumbled onto one or two of them that we couldn't watch for one reason or antoher.

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True enough. Can't count the number of times I've said I wouldn't watch Reality TV and yet....

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Thursday, January 21, 2021 1:38 PM

Out for my walk in a minute on another dry, sunny day. Weekend is calling for rain mixed with snow. Have to see if it arrives. The snow I mean. I know the rain will arrive.

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Thursday, January 21, 2021 4:29 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Just saying HEY ALL!

I've been slowly chipping away at things. All the time I was working I was so busy for the first many years, then in so much pain for the next many years, I never developed a good routine or literal structure for getting things done. It was all very triage-for-the-most-pressing-thing/ ad hoc. (Though in the interim I did do a lot of remodeling, especially lead paint removal inside and out.) So now while I'm organizing/ cleaning I'm creating procedures and structures. Today I hope to wash off some corner walls by the stove, so I can set down some crates there, so I can have a place to store my things I keep stocked-up on. Since these are all shelf-stable, I also count them as earthquake supply.

I have to say, when I got the crates so many years ago I mostly (with a few garage exceptions) got really pretty ones that go with my kitchen living-room color which is a warm, pastel, spring-apple green. The crates themselves are an intense version of that green, a dark Kelly green, a darker forest green, white, and yellow, and they look so cheerful in the kitchen.

These last few days I've been doing 'heavy' shopping, not just re-stocking my frig and freezer which were EMPTY!, but also restocking the heavy shelf-stable stuff since I was very low on everything. It was a LOT of groceries. Most bags were ... let's see ... 4 quarts to a gallon, 8.3 pounds per gallon, 2 gallons per bag, plus packaging ... roughly 20 pounds each (roughly 10kg Brenda) and I made many trips just to break up all the toting around ... 4 bags per trip, 4 trips - roughly 320 lbs worth total.

But I at my age and energy level, not to mention arthritis and so on, I'm very, very, very slow. Just the shopping took a couple of days, and I still need to drive the distance to Whole Foods and get another roughly 100 pounds of stuff to complete it.

In the near future I'm going to shop for recipe ingredients and make a batch of 12 spinach potato onion garlic cheese frittatas as an experiment.

Speaking of cooking experiments, Signy - I got some shaved Parmesan cheese imported from Italy from TJ's (US made stuff does not BEGIN to compare, and I suspect the shaved stuff in inferior to the bulk cheese cut off the wheel). And I added a few shavings to my soup and the flavor and umami it adds is WONDERFUL. Of course it also adds salt, but it's so much more than that. It does a far superior job compared adding mushrooms or tomatoes imo. Maybe I'll put this in the cooking thread.

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Thursday, January 21, 2021 6:41 PM

Holy shit. 320 lbs of groceries? That's about a years worth of food for me. At least 8 or 9 months for sure.

Good organization plan with the crates in the corner of the kitchen. That's what I call the "cornerstone", and it's how I finally was able to tackle the garage organization last year. Once you clean a corner and put stuff there you know is going to stay there and make sure it's all easily accessible at the same time, you've cleared out stuff in other areas of the room while putting it together and you can start whittling away at the job a little bit of the perimeter at a time.

I sanded down both sides of the two shelves I primed, hit one side of them with the 2nd coat of primer and then hit the second side of the four doors with primer. We'll see how they dry. I may even put a 3rd coat on everything before I even paint just to be sure.

I got the hinge pockets drilled on three more doors, and sanded two of them. Taking a break now, but hopefully I get back to it and get a few more ready tonight.

I found out a bunch of clearanced 3M sandpaper I bought wasn't actually the sticky stuff. At first I thought 'WHAT A RIPOFF!!"... Only 5 sheets for about $2.50. But boy do they last long compared to that dollar store stuff. I'm lucky to get two doors done before I need to change the sheet of the dollar store stuff, but I've done two doors with the 3M stuff now and it does a better job and doesn't even look distressed at all. I'll save the dollar store stuff for any gunked up crap and do the rest of the doors with 3M.

The only reason I did it was because my hand was forced. The palm sander my stepdad gave me broke. It was working just fine, but then all the sudden it started doing a high pitched buzz and a new dollar store sheet I put in just ripped right off. It looks as though the spring mechanism on one side failed. I spent a good half hour taking out regular and torx screws, but I can't seem to find a way to get to that part to see if I can fix it. So I put it back together, put a piece of the 3M paper in there, then I took a small metal bar and just jammed that sucker in there tight and away I went.

Well... I did make sure to test it out with my hands fully extended and away from my face to make sure it wasn't going to explode on me first.

The doors and shelves that are being primed look fantastic. I think I finally found my motivation on this job. I really love painting, and once that 2nd coat goes on they just look a million times better than they used to.

Super excited.

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Thursday, January 21, 2021 6:57 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

The heavy stuff is mostly water-based and in glass bottles, cardboard cartons, and cans. So I can count it as my earthquake water source instead of getting a 50 gallon drum or 2, and meet both my water and food needs at the same time.

Other than that, I and my kitty will share the kibble and the 5 gallons of regular water I do have.

Yeah, I don't have much, but after removing and replacing literally every single (lead and often mold contaminated) wall (and ceiling)* in the house, I have literally no storage. So this will do for now.

* If these walls could talk ... In 2 contiguous rooms, removing the walls and ceilings revealed that there were 2 layers of drywall on top lathe and plaster. But the lathe and plaster layer and the drywall directly on top of it were moldy and water-damaged. And the ceiling joists and rafters directly above them in the attic were lightly charred. So, Uncle Bob's brother who lived here did a hillbilly fix and simply threw more drywall on top.

I would love to know the story behind that charring and water damage. I'm sure there was some drama involved.

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Thursday, January 21, 2021 7:00 PM

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Oh Signy, I want to also add a hearty CONGRATULATIONS!!! for getting all the old pipes and other metal out of the house, off your property, and into recycling!

CONGRATULATIONS! Brenda! I may not have mentioned it before, but moving and getting settled-in are huge tasks which you accomplished with grace and persistence!

And CONGRATULATIONS JACK! for your great progress on your home!

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And CONGRATULATIONS JACK! for your great progress on your home!

Thanks. You too.

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Other than that, I and my kitty will share the kibble and the 5 gallons of regular water I do have...

Oh. That explains it. I forgot about liquids. I probably drink a gallon of milk every week, so that's almost 450lbs a year right there. Cat litter and food ain't light either.

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Yeah, I don't have much, but after removing and replacing literally every single (lead and often mold contaminated) wall (and ceiling)* in the house, I have literally no storage. So this will do for now.

* If these walls could talk ... In 2 contiguous rooms, removing the walls and ceilings revealed that there were 2 layers of drywall on top lathe and plaster. But the lathe and plaster layer and the drywall directly on top of it were moldy and water-damaged. And the ceiling joists and rafters directly above them in the attic were lightly charred. So, Uncle Bob's brother who lived here did a hillbilly fix and simply threw more drywall on top.

I would love to know the story behind that charring and water damage. I'm sure there was some drama involved.

Hehe... Good 'Ole Uncle Bob.

That charring might have been a sizable fire. My neighbor didn't even know that there was a fire in that garage and it's why they're having problems with the roof now after Uncle Bob "fixed" it. I think she bought that house 8 years before I move in too, so that's a long time to own a garage and never look at it.

I'm starting to think that everybody has water damage though.

You need to get some proper storage up in there now that you're all clean and remodeled.

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Thursday, January 21, 2021 11:00 PM

Yup. That painting really did motivate me.

I started off drilling the hinge holes and sanding down 5 full doors, but then I was getting tired of sanding and just decided to drill the hinge holes on the remaining 6 doors.

Assuming I don't end up having to put another door in if I don't decide to throw away the dishwasher, I'm done with the jig and at least one part of the job is complete!

The important part is that I have 5 full doors ready to sand, so if I decide against putting a 3rd coat of primer on the doors after sanding them tomorrow, I'll have the 4 new things to prime along with the 2nd coat on the 2nd side of the two shelves, since I always want to have 6 things going in the paint rotation.

Even if I do decide on the 3rd coat, it shouldn't be too much of a bottleneck. I'm going to get to work on stripping the remaining shelves first, and then work on the cabinets.

If I have to buy that stripper I will, but I was pretty sure I hadn't thrown away a bottle of it and sure enough it was out where my mineral spirits were in the garage. The metal container has rust on it though, and it looks to be ancient. My stepdad gave me that 10 years ago. Not sure if that stuff stays good forever or goes bad like paint. It's been in the garage this whole time. Hopefully it's still good and I can get going right away tomorrow.

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Thursday, January 21, 2021 11:05 PM

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True enough. Can't count the number of times I've said I wouldn't watch Reality TV and yet....

There's just so many of them now, I think it's impossible for somebody to not find one they can't help but watch.

At least we're not hooked on some vapid D-List Celebrity shows.

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Thursday, January 21, 2021 11:41 PM

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CONGRATULATIONS! Brenda! I may not have mentioned it before, but moving and getting settled-in are huge tasks which you accomplished with grace and persistence!

Thanks Kiki. Congratulations to you too.

I am still making changes to where I put things and rearranging things to suite my tastes. Which is fantastic to be able to do.

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Thursday, January 21, 2021 11:43 PM

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True enough. Can't count the number of times I've said I wouldn't watch Reality TV and yet....

There's just so many of them now, I think it's impossible for somebody to not find one they can't help but watch.

At least we're not hooked on some vapid D-List Celebrity shows.

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Ain't that the truth. Yeah and it is interesting in its own way.

True enough.

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Friday, January 22, 2021 3:06 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Hey KIKI, if you need any help you know how to get in touch, she said in a small voice.

Got the A/C on the Pilot fixed. It was an expensive repair. They showed me the part (condenser) with what looked like an oily patch - that's where the HCHC leak was. Faulty part. I took a picture in case we ever want to take this up with Honda Motor Corp ... but I don't think we'd get very far. Tomorrow we have a handyman coming to replace the spark arrester for the chimney. He had to take the old one for a pattern and make a new one, custom, but it's not too expensive for LA standards ... $150.

I still can't believe how shitty I felt for at least four months and how much better I feel, and it's all due to a smoldering sinus infection. Jeez. But I'm making progress again, and instead of feeling overwhelmed and in pain most of the time, I look forwardto getting things done, again.

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Friday, January 22, 2021 5:31 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Thanks Signy. I'm still thinking.

It's that I'm organizing/ creating as I go, and it takes me some thought which takes time. I have to imagine that the one thing that I'm doing or this one way that I'm organizing is going to be easy enough to do all the time and maintain, and that it'll be sufficient for the foreseeable future. And sometimes I have to test things out and try things one way before I either settle on it or decide something different. So it's one small thing at a time.

Today I scrubbed out 2 walls and the floor next to the stove in preparation for setting crates down there in preparation for stocking up on bulk items/ earthquake supplies.

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Friday, January 22, 2021 9:29 AM

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Hey KIKI, if you need any help you know how to get in touch, she said in a small voice.

Got the A/C on the Pilot fixed. It was an expensive repair. They showed me the part (condenser) with what looked like an oily patch - that's where the HCHC leak was. Faulty part. I took a picture in case we ever want to take this up with Honda Motor Corp ... but I don't think we'd get very far. Tomorrow we have a handyman coming to replace the spark arrester for the chimney. He had to take the old one for a pattern and make a new one, custom, but it's not too expensive for LA standards ... $150.

I didn't think you could buy a hot dog in LA for $150. Sounds like a bargain, and I don't even know what a spark arrester is.

Nice you got your A/C fixed, especially where you live. In all of my hears of driving, I think I only had working A/C in a car for about 2 of them now. If I didn't have so much work to do on the house, I might look into fixing it on my car now that it's finally running well and not leaking like Exxon all over the place.

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I still can't believe how shitty I felt for at least four months and how much better I feel, and it's all due to a smoldering sinus infection. Jeez. But I'm making progress again, and instead of feeling overwhelmed and in pain most of the time, I look forwardto getting things done, again.

That's great to hear. Especially the timing of it since the weather is nice by you for a few months at least. Who knows? Maybe getting around during the summer won't be too bad with proper breaks in between now that you've resolved the issue too.

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Friday, January 22, 2021 9:45 AM

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Thanks Signy. I'm still thinking.

It's that I'm organizing/ creating as I go, and it takes me some thought which takes time. I have to imagine that the one thing that I'm doing or this one way that I'm organizing is going to be easy enough to do all the time and maintain, and that it'll be sufficient for the foreseeable future. And sometimes I have to test things out and try things one way before I either settle on it or decide something different. So it's one small thing at a time.

Today I scrubbed out 2 walls and the floor next to the stove in preparation for setting crates down there in preparation for stocking up on bulk items/ earthquake supplies.

That's a good process. I totally get where you're coming from. You've got to let those creative juices flow and sometimes they work out and other times not so much. And sometimes you end up doing something better somewhere else and don't need the original idea you thought was so good too.

Getting that area scrubbed and cleaned so you can get your crates, bulk items and earthquake supplies is a super important step, even if they're not going to ulitmately end up there for good. For now, you just need them out of your way, but also in a configuration where you can get to everything and use it quickly without a lot of re-arranging and double and triple work.

One of the things I do when I'm confronted with a huge re-organization job that consists primarily of things I'm keeping is stand in the center of the room and I'll literally spin around just looking and thinking. If I had a time lapse camera on me, I'm sure it would look like I was doing the pirouette all day long.

I'm sure that to outsiders it would seem like a huge waste of time. Sometimes when I'm doing it I can even feel defeated and have to step away from it for a few hours or even come back to it another day with some time to sleep on it and a fresh perspective. But eventually you figure out that one spot to put together right and like dominoes everything just seems to fall into place.

And take the organization time to re-evaluate whether or not you actually need and/or use everything you're finding/building a spot for. Above all else, try to make sure that there isn't anything put anywhere that you have to move something to get to. That's the sure way to know that you're still holding on to too much stuff. You can't make your spot work for you if you're spending your future working for your stuff.

Then when you have all of this in place and you're happy with the results, just live a while and marvel at how de-cluttered your brain is and how much easier it is to just make decisions in general when everything you own has its proper place and you aren't running around like a lunatic every other day wondering where the hell you put "X".

Time passes, and as long as you haven't added too much stuff to be to the point where you can't get to things anymore and you put things back where they belong when you're done with them, you've developed a real "muscle memory" for where everything you regularly and not-so-regularly use is.

It's at that time when you can take a few days to once again re-evaluate your situation and make more choices of what you really do and don't need.

I think at that point you'd be amazed how easy it could be to part with even more things that you just couldn't part with before. (HINT: It's not going to be that stuff you developed muscle memory for, and there's a very good chance that you don't even remember that you kept some of it when you go back a year or so later).

I'm not implying that you're a hoarder or anything, Kiki. But I think most of us have too much stuff if we're really honest with ourselves, and we aren't even aware of how much better things can be when we learn to part with most of it.

Good luck.

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Friday, January 22, 2021 10:11 AM

Saw a video on the Tube today that said "NEVER use paint on cabinets" in the thumbnail. And the description said "Should you use paint on cabinets?".

Of course I had to look and see why I was making a mistake here.

No big deal. Dude was just not a fan of the 8 hour drying time between coats..

8 hours? I've got to let my primed stuff sit at least 24 hours in that cold basement otherwise I get paint can marks on the bottoms when flipping them over.

He recommends using a tinted lacquer, and he uses a spray gun. I have no interest in putting anything lacquer inside my house. I've also used a spray gun only one time in my life and was not a fan.

I've got time to do this right.

I think for now though, I going to skip doing a 3rd coat on the doors and make that decision later. I now have enough product ready to replace the spots of the doors with 2 coats. I know that the primer hasn't covered everything perfectly after2 coats, but that's not the point of primer. That's the paint's job, and with a high quality enamel paint like I've got, 2 coats of that should make them look beautiful without putting a 3rd coat of primer. After the first coat you could see quite a bit of yellowing from bleed through, but I don't see any of that this time. If I let those sit for a week or two while doing other things, I should have a good idea if it needs a 3rd coat or not.

That's going to save an insane amount of days too. With 15 doors, 9 shelves, 6 lazy susan discs and two drawers... two sides each... 24 hours drying time between sides... and a setup for only 6 pieces at once, that's 10 to 12 painting days saved right there. Plus it's one less coat I need to sand in between on everything.

Today I'd like to sand down the 4 doors that have 2 coats, prime one side of 4 doors and the 2nd side of the 2nd coat of the two shelves, and finish sanding all 6 of the remaining doors that need to be sanded.

At that point, I'm going to have to decide whether to tackle the drawers or the lazy susan discs and the rest of the shelves.

One of the drawers needs a new bottom, so I'll have to see if I have any thin wood in the garage for the job, or maybe I can pick up a refuse cutoff for it. No sense in buying a 4x8' sheet of wood for a drawer that's only 6" x 12".

One of the doors under the sink split a little on the handle side. The handle side stile broke toward the bottom... probably from water damage. The bottoms of both of those doors are pretty horrendous compared to all of the other doors. I'll have to take it apart and see if it can't be glued and clamped after I clean it all up good.

The lazy susan discs have the same lacquer that are on the shelves, so if I start with them I'm going to be testing out that solvent I found.

For now I'll just be happy to get the rest of the doors sanded and another round of paint going. We'll see were the day takes us after that.

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Friday, January 22, 2021 2:09 PM

I couldn't help myself. 3rd coat of primer on the backs of the doors. Still had some bleed through going on and a couple of high spots that needed to be sanded down created a little sand burn.

They're damn near pure white now.

2nd coat on the 2 shelves. Taking a break and then I'll sand down those remaining 6 doors.

Might just call it a day then. Been a while since I went out shopping for groceries and want to treat myself tonight.

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Friday, January 22, 2021 5:17 PM

Back and in from my walk. Also got a load of paper taken down to recycling which is good.

Have to look into seeing if I can clean out my ears myself. Went and got them flushed yesterday and the doctor hurt me. Also got some water stuck in my ears. Couldn't do anything about that until the water bubble burst on its own which it did around 4pm, as I could feel the water dribble out of my ear. Took a left over glob of wax out with a q-tip when I got home but still more water stuck. That bubble broke as well at the same time as the left, but it dribbled out with wax in it.

I have had my ears flushed at this clinic before and it should be on my file that my ear canals aren't right. So sometimes when water goes in it doesn't come out right away.

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Friday, January 22, 2021 9:45 PM

I was always told that you should never stick anything inside your ear that's smaller than your elbow.

Never stopped me from cleaning out my ears with my car keys though.

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Friday, January 22, 2021 9:50 PM

Finished sanding the doors today, so that's two things down.

The broken door isn't going to be "fixable". Seems the genius known as Robert "fixed" the door before by doing a piss poor job of gluing it with something that was not wood glue, and it's practically welded together with the gunk. That is the door that I had to add one of those magnet do-dads to years back because it didn't close properly, but it was on the bottom in a corner behind the fridge and I never noticed how bad it was until it was out.

Oh well. I was able to sand down the problem areas real nice. I'll jam some wood glue down in the cracks, and level everything off with wood putty and sand it down before I paint that door. Should look like new when it's done.

I might consider figuring out a way to add a few more pieces to my daily painting regime since I've got a pretty substantial backlog of things that can be done now.

Tomorrow after I do my primer shift, I'm going to bust out that can of solvent and see if I can't start stripping the shelves and the cabinets with it.

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Friday, January 22, 2021 10:07 PM

Oh... and I take back my earlier statement that dollar store sandpaper is great.

That 3M paper that I got on clearance for around $2.50 for 5 sheets is amazing. I'd never used that brand before. The stuff I used for the doors last fall was not dollar store stuff and had the sticky back, but it still went pretty quick. Judging against that level of quality, the 40 sheets you get for a buck is a real bargain at the dollar store.

But one single sheet of 3M paper got me through the 11 doors without even needing to take a break. I had already gone through 2 or 3 sheets of dollar store stuff just doing the 4 smallest cabinet doors before.

When I finished with the doors, I decided to see how the 3M paper handled sanding one of the shelves I was about halfway through sanding with mineral spirits and steel wool. It still couldn't do the job without gunking up, but it's a lot easier to knock the gunk off the paper and get back to work with it.

I won't be doing that and will instead strip the lacquer, but it was an interesting test. Now I wish I'd bought more of that 3M paper when they had it. Great stuff.

And I'll be sure to use it when I sand the rest of the doors before painting them.

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Saturday, January 23, 2021 10:09 AM

It was COOOOOOOOOOOLD here last night.

Nothing record breaking, but by far the coldest night we've had around here this year so far.

It was pretty warm and sunny two days ago, and yesterday fooled me. When I went out on my back porch to smoke it was so sunny that it still felt warm. I didn't even realize that the high yesterday was only 22 degrees. So when I went out shopping, I wasn't exactly dressed for the occasion, and my hair still wasn't completely dry an hour after I took a shower. (Yeah... I forgot how nice it is to have your hair ready in 1 minute when it's short).

It didn't really hit me how cold it was until the wind went right through me while I was unloading my cart in the car, taking the cart back and getting back in the car. Chilled to the bone. I took off my mask and felt something hard behind my ear and almost freaked out imagining what kind of animal or something was on me until I realized that it was my frozen hair. Jeez....

Not feeling under the weather or anything, but I think I'm going to try to limit my time working in the chilly basement today just in case. I'll paint those doors and shelves, then I'll try stripping a few shelves upstairs after laying down some tarps first.

Seriously reconsidering having torn up that vinyl floor in the kitchen this early in. But still happy to have gotten it out though too.

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Saturday, January 23, 2021 1:44 PM

Out for a walk in a bit. Have to see if rain and snow arrive tonight. So far clear, bright and dry.

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Saturday, January 23, 2021 2:47 PM

NOTE TO SELF:

NEVER mix painting over stuff that had polyurethane and stuff that had lacquer on them if everything hasn't first been completely stripped.

Down doing my regular painting shift today when the realization of what had been progressively building the last few days actually hit me.

Now I'm no professional painter even though I know my way around a brush and a can, but the paint and the brushes had been behaving a little strange as of late. Little things... hard to explain, but things just felt "off".

But today, after only doing 1 1/2 of the doors on the 3rd coat, I had to change brushes. The bristles had been "clumping" together and I couldn't paint properly with them. Wouldn't you know it, by the time I was finished with the 4th door it was already half as bad as the other one.

I've introduced quite a few contaminants to my primer job, and although I washed the brushes after every use like I always do and scrubbed out the drying paint, they were still building up oil on them every time they were in use.

I've scrubbed down my sink real good now, and after washing the paint out of brushes I have them sitting in a container with some Dawn solution. Later today I'll wash them off again and then let them sit in some mineral spirits overnight. These weren't dollar store brushes, and I certainly wouldn't have used them on any oil based work knowingly.

Here's hoping the solvent strips the rest of the stuff right and I don't have any more problems with this. And that the three coats of primer that are on everything now are actually enough to keep stuff from bubbling up a few years down the road.

I probably should throw out the 1/4 gallon of primer I have left and just start using a new one too.

The people working for This Old House today should be fired for telling people it's alright to paint over lacquer under any condition. That's terrible advice.

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Saturday, January 23, 2021 5:25 PM