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Wednesday, February 13, 2019 8:37 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


We should have a pool about which new Two Minutes Hate will crop up after the whole Russia thing dies. I bet if I look hard enough somebody online has already created one for us.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, February 13, 2019 8:45 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I didn't manage to find a pool before I had to go, but I found this great article on the subject...

https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/27/the-new-two-minutes-hate/

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I’m not suggesting that these tsunamis of online outrage are bad because their targets are invalid. Sometimes they are, but that’s not my point. My point is that participation in them is harmful — to you, and to us all — even though, maybe even especially when, its targets are completely valid.

It’s a weird and crazy and utopian notion, I know, but here’s an odd proposal. Maybe it’s too much to ask that you stop tweeting snd sharing your outrage and hate. But how about this: if you do participate, then for every ejaculation of fury, add another one, a balancing tweet, a quick thoughtful Facebook post, wherein you express some compassion — again, not sympathy, not agreement, but compassion — for someone with whom you bitterly disagree. You never know. It might become a habit.


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Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:08 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Is John Bolton a little fish?

Well, let me ask you this: Is John Bolton furthering his own strategic interests? Does he even have strategic interests?

And if not his interests ... whose?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:40 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Is John Bolton a little fish?

Well, let me ask you this: Is John Bolton furthering his own strategic interests? Does he even have strategic interests?

And if not his interests ... whose?
John Bolton is a greedy dumb bastard, overly articulate, who works for bigger and greedier bastards who don’t speak as well as Bolton. In 2018, the White House reported that Bolton's total income for 2017 had been $2.2 million which included $569,000 from Fox News and $747,000 in speaking fees from, among others, the Victor Pinchuk Foundation (a Ukrainian NGO), Deutsche Bank, and HSBC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_R._Bolton#Private_sector

There is no secret conspiracy by some mysterious group of people within a "Deep State". How do I know? I worked for the greedy dumb bastards who are forever pushing the Federal government to do extraordinarily stupid things because that makes them rich. I graduated from Sam Rayburn High School, Pasadena, in 1970. That summer I went to work at a drafting board for Brown & Root in Houston. It had contracts to build in Vietnam. You probably don't know, but Mr Brown was bankrolling President Lyndon Johnson, infamous for the Vietnam War, back in 1940 as a member of the House of Representatives.

B&R was a big cheerleader for the Vietnam War, as were all its office employees. B&R was owned by Halliburton, Dick Cheney’s company. Remember Cheney? Bush’s V.P. and also a big cheerleader for the Iraq War. Halliburton made billions from that war, as it did from Vietnam. This is all out in the open. Your so-called "Deep State" is just a bunch of greedy dumb asses like Bolton or Cheney or LBJ, chasing after money.

Bolton sees some future Iran War as another opportunity, much like Vietnam, to make a big pile of money. That's why he promotes a war with Iran. He won't admit it, but that motivates him.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, February 14, 2019 3:21 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So SECOND, who benefits from destroying multiple nations in the Mideast and South/ Central America? John Bolton? If not John Bolton ... who? Can you name them? Can you even imagine what those strtegic interests might be? I doubt it,
:)

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Thursday, February 14, 2019 7:41 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So SECOND, who benefits from destroying multiple nations in the Mideast and South/ Central America? John Bolton? If not John Bolton ... who? Can you name them? Can you even imagine what those strtegic interests might be? I doubt it,
:)
Thankfully, you misspelled strategic as "strtegic" interests. Trump has told everyone, over and over, what he thinks America's "strtgic" interests are and there is always more and more missing from his "strtgc". My explanation is that since WWII, America has been living inside a tale told by many idiots, full of sound and fury signifying almost nothing. Signym, if you want to explain Federal government policy as a conspiracy run by a Deep State, I can't convince you that real explanation is widespread American avarice and stupidity disguised as generosity and wisdom by hundreds of thousands of highly articulate spokesmen whose full time jobs are to beautify Americans’ motivations. Then there are millions of Americans who make it their part-time job. Then there are hundreds of millions of Americans that want to believe these beautiful & glowing tales about themselves being spread by full and part time spokesmen heaping praise upon them. As you can probably tell, I woke up grumpy. That is because I’m going to watch my lawyers beat some more sense into a greedy Texas businessman, another blowhard liar like Trump or Nixon (or Rudy or Bolton), who has a much higher opinion of his personal integrity and the quality of his work than the cold hard facts will support.

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Thursday, February 14, 2019 7:47 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Hey. We could actually agree on a lot of things, Second, if you would apply all the hostility you have toward members of your own party as well. I seriously can't understand why you give any of them a pass, since they're all con men and women.

Avarice... nice word.

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Thursday, February 14, 2019 7:57 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hey. We could actually agree on a lot of things, Second, if you would apply all the hostility you have toward members of your own party as well. I seriously can't understand why you give any of them a pass, since they're all con men and women.

Avarice... nice word.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
6ixStringJack, there are only two parties for me to pick from, unless I want to be an ineffectual idiot and go with a third party (remember Ralph Nader?) that can't win, and I picked the Democrats, the least-worse of two major parties. If I want the least-worse to win, I can't be making the same arguments as the worst-worse party, the GOP, makes.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, February 14, 2019 8:03 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hey. We could actually agree on a lot of things, Second, if you would apply all the hostility you have toward members of your own party as well. I seriously can't understand why you give any of them a pass, since they're all con men and women.

Avarice... nice word.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
6ixStringJack, there are only two parties for me to pick from, unless I want to be an ineffectual idiot and go with a third party (remember Ralph Nader?) that can't win, and I picked the Democrats, the least-worse of two major parties. If I want the least-worse to win, I can't be making the same arguments as the worst-worse party, the GOP, makes.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


They're both shit. Can we at least agree on that?

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Thursday, February 14, 2019 8:12 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

They're both shit. Can we at least agree on that?

Do Right, Be Right. :)
We cannot. I knew Trump from his reputation as a businessman. That guy gave off the fumes of corruption since the days of Trump Taj Mahal in Atlantic City going bankrupt. Hillary stunk far less than Trump.

A reminder of what Trump did in Atlantic City: www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/nyregion/donald-trump-atlantic-city.html

Trump in the West Texas town of El Paso . . .



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Thursday, February 14, 2019 8:45 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

They're both shit. Can we at least agree on that?

Do Right, Be Right. :)
We cannot. I knew Trump from his reputation as a businessman. That guy gave off the fumes of corruption since the days of Trump Taj Mahal in Atlantic City going bankrupt. Hillary stunk far less than Trump.

A reminder of what Trump did in Atlantic City: www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/nyregion/donald-trump-atlantic-city.html

Trump in the West Texas town of El Paso . . .


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If it smells like shit, it's still shit.

Keep that in mind when you realize that some people find different offensive odors more or less palatable than others do.

I'm fine with the fact that neither of us agree on which of the pieces of shit running the country are the lesser of two evils.

I won't abide anybody from the left claiming that their side is everything that is right and good in the world, however.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, February 14, 2019 9:18 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:
Thankfully, you misspelled strategic as "strtegic" interests.
Why is this even an issue? I was working on a tablet with a VERY slow response, it would take literally a minute for it to display what I had just typed. I'm surprised that I didn't have more typos.

Quote:
Trump has told everyone, over and over, what he thinks America's "strtgic" interests are and there is always more and more missing from his "strtgc".
What does this have to do with anything other than your incessant requirement to diss Trump over any failing, real or imagined?

Quote:
My explanation is that since WWII, America has been living inside a tale told by many idiots, full of sound and fury signifying almost nothing. Signym, if you want to explain Federal government policy as a conspiracy run by a Deep State, I can't convince you that real explanation is widespread American avarice and stupidity disguised as generosity and wisdom by hundreds of thousands of highly articulate spokesmen whose full time jobs are to beautify Americans’ motivations. Then there are millions of Americans who make it their part-time job. Then there are hundreds of millions of Americans that want to believe these beautiful & glowing tales about themselves being spread by full and part time spokesmen heaping praise upon them. As you can probably tell, I woke up grumpy. That is because I’m ...
An asshole?

And one that's just as stupid as the people he claims to despise?

Here's where your logic falls to your permanent grotch: You have demonstrated that many people are FOOLED into supporting greedy, avaricious policies. Now, if these people were greedy and avaricious, would they NEED to be fooled that our policies are for "democracy" or because we represent a "shining city on a hill" or because of "WMD" or some such nonsense?

Hell no! It would be sufficient to say that "Venezuela is a competing oil interest and is destabilizing the petrodollar, therefore we want to install our hand-picked rightwing IMF toady so we can corral oil and currency markets again" The reason WHY the deep state needs to construct such elaborate hoaxes to cover our real regime-change rationale is NOT because people are greedy, and NOT because people are powerless, but it's exact opposite: "The people" might actually affect policy if they got off their hind legs and figured out what was going on, and the deep state cannot afford to have that happen.

Now, those who spend many hundreds of thousands of words convincing "the people" that various imaginary fables are true (like you, or Rachel Maddow, or Elliot Abrams) ... are you or they the decision-makers? Is there a scintilla's-worth of truth in anything you - or they - say? Or are they just covering for the real reasons of the real decision-makers?

It's been my experience that when a foreign (or domestic) event doesn't make sense ... when the reasons given don't square with reality ... it's not that the people who're deciding don't have extremely good reasons (from their POV) to do what they do. They've just managed to throw enough chaff into the air to confuse you, along with all of the other "stupid" people out there.

But if you think about it long enough and gather enough information and maintain an open mind when answering the question cui bono? you'll eventually figure out the why, and the who.

And now, since you're so hate-filled and vicious that it must be because you're in some sort of pain, there's no point in continuing this discussion further. Basically, you're being driven by something to the point of irrationality and can't maintain a conversation.

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Sunday, February 24, 2019 12:51 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

But tomorrow is another Monday.

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Friday, March 1, 2019 3:13 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Aaaaaand...

Still No Evidence.

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Saturday, March 2, 2019 7:43 AM

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John Dean: "I testified against Nixon. My appearance before Congress helped take down a president. Will the same thing happen to Trump?"

There are several parallels between my testimony before Congress in 1973, about President Richard Nixon and his White House, and Michael Cohen’s testimony this week about President Trump and his business practices. Setting aside the differences regarding how we got there, we both found ourselves speaking before Congress, in multiple open and closed venues, about criminal conduct of a sitting president of the United States.

Polls varied widely after my testimony. One said 50 percent of Americans believed me, 30 percent did not, and 20 percent were not sure.

While my testimony was eventually corroborated by secret recordings of our conversations made by Mr. Nixon, before that it was other witnesses who made the difference. I was surprised by the number of people who surfaced to support my account. The same, I suspect, will happen for Michael Cohen. The Mafia’s code of omertà has no force in public service. I have heard no one other than Roger Stone say he will go to jail for Donald Trump.

Just as Mr. Nixon had his admirers and apologists, so it is with Mr. Trump. Some of these people will forever be rewriting history. They will put words in Mr. Cohen’s mouth that he never spoke. They will place him at events at which he wasn’t present. Some have tried rewriting my life, and they will rewrite his, too. Presidential scandals tend to attract a remarkable number of dishonest “historians.”

Mr. Cohen read a closing statement. He told the legislators, “Given my experience working for Mr. Trump, I fear that if he loses the election in 2020 that there will never be a peaceful transition of power, and this is why I agreed to appear before you today.” This was the most troubling — actually, chilling — thing he said in his five hours before the committee. Mr. Trump is the first authoritarian president since Mr. Nixon, and neither he nor his supporters will play fair. Mr. Cohen will be dealing with these people the rest of his life.

More at www.nytimes.com/2019/03/01/opinion/john-dean-michael-cohen.html

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Saturday, March 2, 2019 10:03 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Aaaaaand...

Still No Evidence.

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Tuesday, March 5, 2019 11:18 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Another Monday has passed.

Still No Evidence.

How exciting.

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Tuesday, March 5, 2019 11:31 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Another Monday has passed.

Still No Evidence.

How exciting.
Absolutely no evidence that Trump ever had bone spurs, but he absolutely did avoid Vietnam using bone spurs as his excuse.
www.businessinsider.com/trump-tried-to-show-biographer-bone-spurs-that
-helped-him-avoid-draft-2018-12
www.businessinsider.com/michael-cohen-on-trump-vietnam-war-military-se
rvice-bone-sppurs-2019-2

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Tuesday, March 5, 2019 12:52 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Another Monday has passed.

Still No Evidence.

How exciting.
Absolutely no evidence that Trump ever had bone spurs, but he absolutely did avoid Vietnam using bone spurs as his excuse.
www.businessinsider.com/trump-tried-to-show-biographer-bone-spurs-that
-helped-him-avoid-draft-2018-12
www.businessinsider.com/michael-cohen-on-trump-vietnam-war-military-se
rvice-bone-sppurs-2019-2

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Meh... I used fake urine to pass a drug test for the job that gave me the money to get into my current position of owning my house free and clear.

We've all got similar tales...


Democrats were against that war anyhow. Something I happen to agree with. NeoLiberal Corporatist Democrats of today love war.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 10, 2019 1:06 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

Is tomorrow the Monday that Trolls have been waiting for?

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Sunday, March 10, 2019 1:09 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Another Monday has passed.

Still No Evidence.

How exciting.
Absolutely no evidence that Trump ever had bone spurs, but he absolutely did avoid Vietnam using bone spurs as his excuse.
www.businessinsider.com/trump-tried-to-show-biographer-bone-spurs-that
-helped-him-avoid-draft-2018-12
www.businessinsider.com/michael-cohen-on-trump-vietnam-war-military-se
rvice-bone-sppurs-2019-2

Meh... I used fake urine to pass a drug test for the job that gave me the money to get into my current position of owning my house free and clear.

We've all got similar tales...


Democrats were against that war anyhow. Something I happen to agree with. NeoLiberal Corporatist Democrats of today love war.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
Feeding the Trolls again?
Tsk tsk.
You couldn't find something more off-topic to comment on?
What does any of this have to do with the topic of the thread?

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Sunday, March 10, 2019 3:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Another Monday has passed.

Still No Evidence.

How exciting.
Absolutely no evidence that Trump ever had bone spurs, but he absolutely did avoid Vietnam using bone spurs as his excuse.
www.businessinsider.com/trump-tried-to-show-biographer-bone-spurs-that
-helped-him-avoid-draft-2018-12
www.businessinsider.com/michael-cohen-on-trump-vietnam-war-military-se
rvice-bone-sppurs-2019-2

Meh... I used fake urine to pass a drug test for the job that gave me the money to get into my current position of owning my house free and clear.

We've all got similar tales...


Democrats were against that war anyhow. Something I happen to agree with. NeoLiberal Corporatist Democrats of today love war.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
Feeding the Trolls again?
Tsk tsk.
You couldn't find something more off-topic to comment on?
What does any of this have to do with the topic of the thread?


Nobody stays on target here, man.

I'm assuming this derailment about how Trump dodged Nam came up is because they're looking for anything negative to say about him now that there is no Russia thing anymore... and there never was.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, March 14, 2019 6:02 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

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Friday, March 22, 2019 10:04 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

And Likely never will be, never has been.

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Monday, March 25, 2019 8:51 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.


Yet another Monday without results.

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Tuesday, March 26, 2019 6:12 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.

Yet another Monday without results.
Yes, Trump is the same as ever. No evidence he can change. As George Washington’s biographer, Douglas Southall Freeman, explained, the first president believed he had been entrusted with something of immense intrinsic worth, and that his duty was to uphold it for its own sake and over the long term. He led by moral example.

Few of our subsequent presidents have come close to the example Washington set, but none to date has been as far from that standard as Trump.

In the 2016 presidential campaign, when accused of failing to pay his income taxes, Trump responded “that makes me smart”. His comment conveyed a message to millions of Americans: that paying taxes in full is not an obligation.

Trump boasted about giving money to politicians so they would do whatever he wanted. “When they call, I give. And you know what, when I need something from them two years later, three years later, I call them. They are there for me.” In other words, it’s perfectly OK for business leaders to pay off politicians, regardless of the effect on our democracy.

Trump sent another message by refusing to reveal his tax returns during the campaign or even when he took office, or to put his businesses into a blind trust to avoid conflicts of interest, and by his overt willingness to make money off his presidency by having foreign diplomats stay at his Washington hotel, and promoting his various golf clubs.

These were not just ethical lapses. They directly undermined the common good by reducing the public’s trust in the office of the president.

More at www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/24/robert-mueller-report-do
nald-trump

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Tuesday, March 26, 2019 6:38 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Still no evidence.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, March 26, 2019 11:39 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


There is No Evidence that Trump has reduced the public trust in the Office of The President more than Slick Willie or Obamination.
Trolls just cannot see that.

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Monday, April 1, 2019 11:21 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

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Monday, April 8, 2019 2:05 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

A thread about the Witch Hunt is thriving, despite complete lack of Evidence.

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Saturday, April 13, 2019 12:14 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

But so many remain delusioned.

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Saturday, April 13, 2019 12:18 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.

But so many remain delusioned.
Funny how Trump gave evidence against himself in today's tweet:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Why should Radical Left Democrats in Congress have a right to examine the $35,000,000 (two years in the making) No Collusion Mueller Report, when the crime committed was by Crooked Hillary, the DNC and Dirty Cops? Attorney General Barr will make the decision!
5:21 AM - 13 Apr 2019
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1117040007016009728

In the past, Trump said that the report "exonerates" him, but today he's afraid to let Congress see a report that he says proves his innocence. The last time an Attorney General like Barr tried to keep the full text of a Special Counsel's Report away from Congress was during Watergate. The case went all the way to the Supreme Court.
www.lawfareblog.com/road-map-impeachment-proceedings-what-watergate-ca
n-teach-us-about-unsealing-mueller-report

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, April 13, 2019 2:16 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Still no evidence.

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Saturday, April 13, 2019 8:02 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK



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Saturday, April 13, 2019 8:02 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.

But so many remain delusioned.
Funny how Trump gave evidence against himself in today's tweet:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Why should Radical Left Democrats in Congress have a right to examine the $35,000,000 (two years in the making) No Collusion Mueller Report, when the crime committed was by Crooked Hillary, the DNC and Dirty Cops? Attorney General Barr will make the decision!
5:21 AM - 13 Apr 2019
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1117040007016009728

In the past, Trump said that the report "exonerates" him, but today he's afraid to let Congress see a report that he says proves his innocence. The last time an Attorney General like Barr tried to keep the full text of a Special Counsel's Report away from Congress was during Watergate. The case went all the way to the Supreme Court.
www.lawfareblog.com/road-map-impeachment-proceedings-what-watergate-ca
n-teach-us-about-unsealing-mueller-report

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


TBH, I don't think the current makeup of the Supreme Court is going to lead to the same outcome this time if it ever makes it that far up the ladder.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, April 14, 2019 5:03 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Something I guess I didn't realize:
All of the charges spewed out by Mueller were for activities which occurred prior to Trump launching his campaign, or as a result of Mueller's Witch Hunt, or occurred during the Witch Hunt. And the Official Witch Hunt did not commence until after Trump was Inaugurated.

So NONE of these activities occurred during the Presidential campaign.

It is hard to remember that none of them occurred during that time frame, because we all know that so many horrendous and Malicious crimes were perpetrated during that period - but they were all committed by Team Hilliary/Obama.

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Sunday, April 14, 2019 8:30 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Something I guess I didn't realize:
All of the charges spewed out by Mueller were for activities which occurred prior to Trump launching his campaign, or as a result of Mueller's Witch Hunt, or occurred during the Witch Hunt. And the Official Witch Hunt did not commence until after Trump was Inaugurated.

So NONE of these activities occurred during the Presidential campaign.

It is hard to remember that none of them occurred during that time frame, because we all know that so many horrendous and Malicious crimes were perpetrated during that period - but they were all committed by Team Hilliary/Obama.


You just realized this?

BTW... if you weren't aware of it, you might be interested to know about Manafort's links to the Podesta Group, related to his charges.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/robert-mueller-offers-tony-pod
esta-immunity-to-testify-against-paul-manafort-report

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, April 14, 2019 10:11 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Something I guess I didn't realize:
All of the charges spewed out by Mueller were for activities which occurred prior to Trump launching his campaign, or as a result of Mueller's Witch Hunt, or occurred during the Witch Hunt. And the Official Witch Hunt did not commence until after Trump was Inaugurated.

So NONE of these activities occurred during the Presidential campaign.

It is hard to remember that none of them occurred during that time frame, because we all know that so many horrendous and Malicious crimes were perpetrated during that period - but they were all committed by Team Hilliary/Obama.

You just realized this?

BTW... if you weren't aware of it, you might be interested to know about Manafort's links to the Podesta Group, related to his charges.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/robert-mueller-offers-tony-pod
esta-immunity-to-testify-against-paul-manafort-report

Do Right, Be Right. :)
I knew most were from long ago. I haven't really followed the Delusional Details. I got the impression some of them drifted into the time frame.

I did not realize that NONE of them were from the time frame.

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Sunday, April 14, 2019 11:31 PM

REAVERFAN


Note that the Russian trolls are busy late at night, here in the USA.


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Wednesday, April 17, 2019 12:26 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Ex-president dies after shooting himself to avoid arrest

Peru’s former president Alan Garcia died in a hospital in Lima on Wednesday after shooting himself as police arrived at his house to arrest him in connection with a bribery probe, authorities said on Wednesday.

Garcia, who had repeatedly denied wrongdoing, was 69.

www.foxnews.com/world/perus-ex-president-alan-garcia-shoots-himself-be
fore-arrest

I approve 100% of ex-Presidents being charged with crimes. There should not be immunity from prosecution. If the guilty ones kill themselves before being arrested, that is even better.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, April 17, 2019 1:16 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Something I guess I didn't realize:
All of the charges spewed out by Mueller were for activities which occurred prior to Trump launching his campaign, or as a result of Mueller's Witch Hunt, or occurred during the Witch Hunt. And the Official Witch Hunt did not commence until after Trump was Inaugurated.

So NONE of these activities occurred during the Presidential campaign.

It is hard to remember that none of them occurred during that time frame, because we all know that so many horrendous and Malicious crimes were perpetrated during that period - but they were all committed by Team Hilliary/Obama.

You just realized this?

BTW... if you weren't aware of it, you might be interested to know about Manafort's links to the Podesta Group, related to his charges.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/robert-mueller-offers-tony-pod
esta-immunity-to-testify-against-paul-manafort-report

Do Right, Be Right. :)
I knew most were from long ago. I haven't really followed the Delusional Details. I got the impression some of them drifted into the time frame.

I did not realize that NONE of them were from the time frame.


Yup. NONE of them were.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, April 17, 2019 8:09 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Ex-president dies after shooting himself to avoid arrest

Peru’s former president Alan Garcia died in a hospital in Lima on Wednesday after shooting himself as police arrived at his house to arrest him in connection with a bribery probe, authorities said on Wednesday.

Garcia, who had repeatedly denied wrongdoing, was 69.

www.foxnews.com/world/perus-ex-president-alan-garcia-shoots-himself-be
fore-arrest

I approve 100% of ex-Presidents being charged with crimes. There should not be immunity from prosecution. If the guilty ones kill themselves before being arrested, that is even better.
Wow. You are really hot on imprisoning Obama and CoPresidents BJ & Hilliary, aren't you?

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Thursday, April 18, 2019 11:07 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Barr spun everything in Trump’s favor — and literally walked offstage when he was called on it.

REPORTER: Is it an impropriety for you to come out and sort of spin the report before people are able to read it?

BARR: No. *walks away*

See the video here: https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1118877931764355072

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, April 18, 2019 11:17 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Wow. You are really hot on imprisoning Obama and CoPresidents BJ & Hilliary, aren't you?
When Sessions told the President that a Special Counsel had been appointed, the President slumped back in his chair and said, "Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I'm fucked." (p. 290 of the PDF)
www.documentcloud.org/documents/5955210-Redacted-Mueller-Report.html

www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook-pm/2019/04/18/the-report-is-out-
trump-tried-to-remove-mueller-426190

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Saturday, April 20, 2019 9:45 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I had imagined that once the Witch Hunt Fishing Expedition was over, the delusions might lose momentum.

But, despite there being No Evidence, new threads of Delusion continue to sprout up.

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Tuesday, April 30, 2019 8:49 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

When will it be over?
The inmates are still running the Asylum threads like exercise wheels.

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Tuesday, April 30, 2019 11:41 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Russia didn’t help Donald Trump’s presidential campaign.
O.K., it did help him, but the campaign itself wasn’t involved.
O.K., the campaign had a lot of Russian contacts and knowingly received information from the Russians, but that was perfectly fine.

If you’ve been trying to follow the Republican response to revelations about what happened in 2016, you may be a bit confused. New excuses keep emerging, but old excuses are never abandoned. On one side, we have Rudy Giuliani saying that “there’s nothing wrong with taking information from Russians.” On the other side, we have Jared Kushner denying that Russia did anything beyond taking out “a couple of Facebook ads.”

If you have been following Republican arguments over the years, you know that the party’s response to evidence of Russian intervention in 2016 is standard operating procedure. On issue after issue, what you see are multiple levels of denial combined with a refusal ever to give up an argument no matter how completely it has been discredited.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, May 14, 2019 7:09 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

Yet Delusionals (aka Liberals) continue to rant on as if there might be, maybe, someday, some to gloat about.

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Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:55 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Still No Evidence.

Yet Delusionals (aka Liberals) continue to rant on as if there might be, maybe, someday, some to gloat about.

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Saturday, June 8, 2019 3:38 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Well, Still No Evidence of what Mueller was pretending to investigate.


But plenty of evidence of the crimes Mueller was perpetrating under the pretext of investigating nonexistent infractions.

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