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Evidence: So where are we now(II) ?
Monday, December 17, 2018 1:03 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:Originally posted by SECOND-RATE: Trump himself repeatedly stated since entering the presidential race in June 2015 that he had no business in Russia and no interactions with representatives of Russia.
Monday, December 17, 2018 1:43 PM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted by SECOND-RATE: Trump himself repeatedly stated since entering the presidential race in June 2015 that he had no business in Russia and no interactions with representatives of Russia. Trump didn't have any business in Russia. Cohen couldn't even get through the front door to talk to anybody to create any business in Russia. Furthermore, Trump had no interactions with representatives of Russia. (While the article is squishy about it, when it says "representatives of Russia" presumably it means official representatives of the Russian state.)
Monday, December 17, 2018 2:35 PM
Quote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_projects_of_Donald_Trump_in_Russia Trump was never able to successfully conclude any real estate deals in Russia.
Monday, December 17, 2018 3:08 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Monday, December 17, 2018 5:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "trademarked the Donald Trump name in Russia" Let me point out that a trademark isn't a business. ALSO - the more I read about the various goings-on, the more it becomes evident that nearly all of claims made by pretty much everybody are just so much gum-flapping by people who are pretending things exist that don't. People pretend to have an 'in' with Putin, Trump Jr pretends to have viable business opportunities in Russia. And so on. And as I suspected from my first reading re the 'Trump Tower' meeting many months ago, everybody was trying to scam the campaign. Trump Jr was never in direct contact with Emin Agalarov who's father supposedly had dirt on Hillary. "Trump Jr. responded: Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?" It looks like Trump Jr was trying to do due diligence on a random contact that came his way, and was being open ENOUGH to finally get to see the goods. ... Which as we know was nothing about dirt on Hillary. Felix Sate was scamming Cohen about his contacts within Russia (with zero results) to the point that Cohen had to send an email to a general public address he got off the internet - but he never got a reply. And so on. There were never any contacts made, never any agreements, never any potential for either quid pro quo or extortion in any of these non-events. Really, how can you be extorted over nothing? Meanwhile - FROM YOUR OWN LINKS Quote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_projects_of_Donald_Trump_in_Russia Trump was never able to successfully conclude any real estate deals in Russia. I don't need to go any further to know that TRUMP HAD NO BUSINESS IN RUSSIA. No matter how much you're trying to sell that scam.
Monday, December 17, 2018 5:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I think this is the perfect place to cross-post what was posted elsewhere: What Rachel Maddow spews 24/7. Keep in mind: This is all from ONE show How the M$M treats Trump
Monday, December 17, 2018 6:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Goddamn, Kiki - use your head. Sorry - Trump's kid?
Quote:Miss Universe - oops! Business in Russia.
Quote:Not to mention the deals he did in the US with Russians.
Quote: It shows his desire to work deals in Russia
Quote:over the course of DECADES - do you see that?
Quote:No quid pro quo?
Quote:So he's banging on Russia's door trying to get in.
Monday, December 17, 2018 7:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: You know nothing of how deals get done.
Monday, December 17, 2018 7:25 PM
Quote:You know nothing of how deals get done. - GSTRING But let me follow up on this. What is your experience? Inform us all how this kind of thing happens.- KIKI
Quote: It's so fun watching GSTRING and THUGR and JO being desperate!
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Monday, December 17, 2018 7:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Still No Evidence. Trolls are getting frothy.
Monday, December 17, 2018 7:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:You know nothing of how deals get done. - GSTRING But let me follow up on this. What is your experience? Inform us all how this kind of thing happens.- KIKI I would bet $1000 that GSTRING never answers this question, but nobody here will bet against me. Quote: It's so fun watching GSTRING and THUGR and JO being desperate!
Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Still No Evidence. Trolls are getting frothy. HAHAHAHAHA!!! I'm waiting for GSTRING to tell us about his experience how "deals get done".
Monday, December 17, 2018 8:19 PM
THG
Monday, December 17, 2018 9:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: But let me follow up on this. What is your experience? Inform us all how this kind of thing happens.
Monday, December 17, 2018 9:35 PM
REAVERFAN
Monday, December 17, 2018 9:37 PM
Tuesday, December 18, 2018 9:01 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by THG: President Trump has made 3,001 false or misleading claims so far
Tuesday, December 18, 2018 11:16 AM
Tuesday, December 18, 2018 1:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by GEEBERS: “Russians" Trump Jr. said 10 years ago. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia." business with Russians and then fact-free innuendo about business with Russians
Tuesday, December 18, 2018 1:30 PM
Tuesday, December 18, 2018 1:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by friki: The claim was that Trump had business - an ongoing financial enterprise - in Russia.
Quote:Originally posted by friki: I know you like to lie - a lot - scratch that - pretty much about everything
Tuesday, December 18, 2018 2:00 PM
Tuesday, December 18, 2018 2:03 PM
Tuesday, December 18, 2018 4:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: How many times can you duck this topic, GEEBERS. I even dumbed the question down for you. don't want this to get drowned in the your sewage: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: You know nothing of how deals get done.
Tuesday, December 18, 2018 4:16 PM
Tuesday, December 18, 2018 7:58 PM
Tuesday, December 18, 2018 8:39 PM
Tuesday, December 18, 2018 8:45 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Trump and his adult children agree to dissolve the Trump Foundation charity amid a lawsuit alleging 'persistently illegal conduct' https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-dissolves-trump-foundation-charity-amid-new-york-lawsuit-2018-12 More to come on this. The investigation goes on. tick tock T
Wednesday, December 19, 2018 6:29 AM
Wednesday, December 19, 2018 10:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Still No Evidence. And we are well past another Monday.
Wednesday, December 19, 2018 11:56 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Still No Evidence. And we are well past another Monday.Go to this link and see Trump's signature on a Trump Tower Moscow letter of intent. CNN has receipts. Trump personally signed it. www.vox.com/2018/12/19/18148110/trump-tower-moscow-letter-of-intent-signature It is letter of intent personally signed by Donald Trump to proceed with a lucrative Trump Tower Moscow project that would have provided his company with a $4 million upfront fee. Trump himself signed the letter of intent, which is dated October 28, 2015 — five months after Trump launched his presidential campaign, and during a period in which he was lavishing praise on Russian President Vladimir Putin. Even though he personally signed a letter of intent for Trump Tower Moscow, Trump repeatedly claimed during his campaign that he had “nothing to do with Russia” and “I know nothing about Russia ... I don’t deal there.” Next, he will be saying I wasn't bribed by $4,000,000. It takes more to buy me.
Wednesday, December 19, 2018 12:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Pro Trump people are not interested in facts, clearly. I recall one of the first days of the reign of Lord Trump, when he ran out a bunch of stacks of (probably blank) 8x10 sheets of paper and other misc official looking papers during a press conference and said "here, see I'm completely divested!" And then he said his kids would take over the business while he was president (ie; pilfering the US treasury). And then in a moment of inspiration he looked at the crowd and said, "and if they don't do a good job I'll tell them, "You're Fired!" hahahahah..." Surreal.
Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:52 PM
Friday, December 21, 2018 12:33 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Still No Evidence. Do we need to wait for another Monday?
Friday, December 21, 2018 7:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Still No Evidence. Do we need to wait for another Monday?
Saturday, December 22, 2018 6:16 AM
Tuesday, December 25, 2018 4:30 PM
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Tuesday, December 25, 2018 5:01 PM
Thursday, December 27, 2018 4:28 PM
Thursday, December 27, 2018 5:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Fresh evidence that Michael Cohen was in Prague after all www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/12/mcclatchy-re-ups-claim-that-cohen-was-in-prague-during-summer-2016/ A mobile phone traced to President Donald Trump’s former lawyer and “fixer” Michael Cohen briefly sent signals ricocheting off cell towers in the Prague area in late summer 2016, at the height of the presidential campaign, leaving an electronic record to support claims that Cohen met secretly there with Russian officials, four people with knowledge of the matter say. During the same period of late August or early September, electronic eavesdropping by an Eastern European intelligence agency picked up a conversation among Russians, one of whom remarked that Cohen was in Prague, two people familiar with the incident said. There are two things that are interesting about this. First, if it’s true, it’s a huge shot-in-the-arm for the credibility of the entire Steele dossier, where this allegation originated. Second, it means that special counsel Robert Mueller knows about all this and decided to keep it closely held instead of using it in the charge sheet against Cohen. But why would Mueller want to keep it secret? Well, the alleged purpose of Cohen’s trip to Prague was to visit with Russian intelligence folks in order to come up with a plan for making cash payments to the hackers who were working with Team Trump to take down Hillary Clinton. Even for Mitch McConnell, I assume this would be considered an impeachable offense, and it’s the kind of thing you’d really want to nail down solidly before you make it public. What’s more, I assume—again, if this is true—that Cohen turned over names and dates and Mueller might want some time to see if he can interview any of the people Cohen talked with. Who knows? Maybe one of them will take a flight that makes a refueling stop in Canada someday. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Thursday, December 27, 2018 5:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Shit, should've checked. I just posted a similar story in the countdown thread. Nice analysis second. Yep tick tock
Thursday, December 27, 2018 8:06 PM
Friday, December 28, 2018 7:31 AM
Friday, December 28, 2018 7:43 AM
Tuesday, January 1, 2019 9:28 AM
Tuesday, January 1, 2019 12:17 PM
Tuesday, January 1, 2019 12:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Still No Evidence. I guess Mueller and the resident Trolls here have all blown their wads, proving themselves impotent and fruitless.
Thursday, January 3, 2019 6:52 AM
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