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Evidence: So where are we now(II) ?
Saturday, August 25, 2018 12:12 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: OH, DEAR, SECOND. You seem to have lost the thread about your own hysteria! I thought the problem was RUSSIA!!! RUSSIA!!! RUSSIA!!! What's the matter? That fake news not working out well for you? Decided to engage in a bit of goalpost-moving, did you?
Saturday, August 25, 2018 12:25 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:The point has always been that Trump Hillary Bush Bill was/is/will be a crook.
Saturday, August 25, 2018 12:36 PM
Quote: I am passing this on from someone who's connecting some dots with input from sources he cannot reveal. Here's what it looks like when all the pieces are sewn together It smells like conspiracy and treason. Everyone needs to read this. Slowly, and patiently, because it’s very important...... From 2001 to 2005 there was an ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation. A Grand Jury had been impanelled. Governments from around the world had donated to the “Charity”. Yet, from 2001 to 2003 none of those “Donations” to the Clinton Foundation were declared. Now you would think that an honest investigator would be able to figure this out. Look who took over this investigation in 2005: None other than James Comey; Coincidence? Guess who was transferred into the Internal Revenue Service to run the Tax Exemption Branch of the IRS? None other than, Lois “Be on The Look Out” (BOLO) Lerner. Isn’t that interesting? But this is all just a series of strange coincidences, right? Guess who ran the Tax Division inside the Department of Injustice from 2001 to 2005? No other than the Assistant Attorney General of the United States, Rod Rosenstein. Guess who was the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation during this time frame? Another coincidence (just an anomaly in statistics and chances), but it was Robert Mueller. What do all four casting characters have in common? They all were briefed and/or were front-line investigators into the Clinton Foundation Investigation. Another coincidence, right? Fast forward to 2009.... James Comey leaves the Justice Department to go and cash-in at Lockheed Martin. Hillary Clinton is running the State Department, official government business, on her own personal email server. The Uranium One “issue” comes to the attention of the Hillary. Like all good public servants do, supposedly looking out for America’s best interest, she decides to support the decision and approve the sale of 20% of US Uranium to no other than, the Russians. Now you would think that this is a fairly straight up deal, except it wasn’t, America got absolutely nothing out of it. However, prior to the sales approval, no other than Bill Clinton goes to Moscow, gets paid 500K for a one hour speech; then meets with Vladimir Putin at his home for a few hours. Ok, no big deal right? Well, not so fast, the FBI had a mole inside the money laundering and bribery scheme. Robert Mueller was the FBI Director during this time frame? Yep, He even delivered a Uranium Sample to Moscow in 2009. Who was handling that case within the Justice Department out of the US Attorney’s Office in Maryland? None other than, Rod Rosenstein. And what happened to the informant? The Department of Justice placed a GAG order on him and threatened to lock him up if he spoke out about it. How does 20% of the most strategic asset of the United States of America end up in Russian hands when the FBI has an informant, a mole providing inside information to the FBI on the criminal enterprise? Very soon after; the sale was approved!~145 million dollars in “donations” made their way into the Clinton Foundation from entities directly connected to the Uranium One deal. Guess who was still at the Internal Revenue Service working the Charitable Division? None other than, - Lois Lerner. Ok, that’s all just another series of coincidences, nothing to see here, right? Let’s fast forward to 2015. Due to a series of tragic events in Benghazi and after the 9 “investigations” the House, Senate and at State Department, Trey Gowdy who was running the 10th investigation as Chairman of the Select Committee on Benghazi discovers that the Hillary ran the State Department on an unclassified, unauthorized, outlaw personal email server.He also discovered that none of those emails had been turned over when she departed her “Public Service” as Secretary of State which was required by law. He also discovered that there was Top Secret information contained within her personally archived email. Sparing you the State Departments cover up, the nostrums they floated, the delay tactics that were employed and the outright lies that were spewed forth from the necks of the Kerry State Department, we shall leave it with this…… they did everything humanly possible to cover for Hillary. . Now this is amazing, guess who became FBI Director in 2013? None other than James Comey; who secured 17 no bid contracts for his employer (Lockheed Martin) with the State Department and was rewarded with a six million dollar thank you present when he departed his employer? Amazing how all those no-bids just went right through at State, huh? Now he is the FBI Director in charge of the “Clinton Email Investigation” after of course his FBI Investigates the Lois Lerner “Matter” at the Internal Revenue Service and he exonerates her. Nope.... couldn’t find any crimes there. In April 2016, James Comey drafts an exoneration letter of Hillary Rodham Clinton, meanwhile the DOJ is handing out immunity deals like candy.They didn’t even convene a Grand Jury! Like a lightning bolt of statistical impossibility, like a miracle from God himself, like the true “Gangsta” Comey is, James steps out into the cameras of an awaiting press conference on July the 8th of 2016, and exonerates the Hillary from any wrongdoing. Do you see the pattern? It goes on and on, Rosenstein becomes Asst. Attorney General,Comey gets fired based upon a letter by Rosenstein, Comey leaks government information to the press, Mueller is assigned to the Russian Investigation sham by Rosenstein to provide cover for decades of malfeasance within the FBI and DOJ and the story continues. FISA Abuse, political espionage..... pick a crime, any crime, chances are...... this group and a few others did it: All the same players. All compromised and conflicted. All working fervently to NOT go to jail themselves All connected in one way or another to the Clinton's. They are like battery acid; they corrode and corrupt everything they touch.How many lives have these two destroyed? As of this writing, the Clinton Foundation, in its 20+ years of operation of being the largest International Charity Fraud in the history of mankind, has never been audited by the Internal Revenue Service. Let us not forget that Comey's brother works for DLA Piper, the law firm that does the Clinton Foundation's taxes. The person that is the common denominator to all the crimes above and still doing her evil escape legal maneuvers at the top of the 3 Letter USA Agencies? Yep, that would be Hillary R. Clinton. Now who is LISA BARSOOMIAN? Let’s learn a little about Mrs. Lisa H. Barsoomian’s background. Lisa H. Barsoomian, an Attorney that graduated from Georgetown Law, is a protégé of James Comey and Robert Mueller. Barsoomian, with her boss R. Craig Lawrence, represented Bill Clinton in 1998. Lawrence also represented: Robert Mueller three times; James Comey five times; Barack Obama 45 times; Kathleen Sebelius 56 times; Bill Clinton 40 times; and Hillary Clinton 17 times. Between 1998 and 2017, Barsoomian herself represented the FBI at least five times. You may be saying to yourself, OK, who cares? Who cares about the work history of this Barsoomian woman? Apparently, someone does, because someone out there cares so much that they’ve “purged” all Barsoomian court documents for her Clinton representation in Hamburg vs. Clinton in 1998 and its appeal in 1999 from the DC District and Appeals Court dockets (?). Someone out there cares so much that even the internet has been “purged” of all information pertaining to Barsoomian. Historically, this indicates that the individual is a protected CIA operative. Additionally, Lisa Barsoomian has specialized in opposing Freedom of Information Act requests on behalf of the intelligence community. Although Barsoomian has been involved in hundreds of cases representing the DC Office of the US Attorney, her email address is Lisa Barsoomian at NIH.gov. The NIH stands for National Institutes of Health. This is a tactic routinely used by the CIA to protect an operative by using another government organization to shield their activities. It’s a cover, so big deal right? What does one more attorney with ties to the US intelligence community really matter? It deals with Trump and his recent tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum imports, the border wall, DACA, everything coming out of California, the Uni-party unrelenting opposition to President Trump, the Clapper leaks, the Comey leaks, Attorney General Jeff Sessions recusal and subsequent 14 month nap with occasional forays into the marijuana legalization mix …. and last but not least Mueller’s never-ending investigation into collusion between the Trump team and-the Russians. Why does Barsoomian, CIA operative, merit any mention? BECAUSE…. She is Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s WIFE!
Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:15 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:30 PM
Saturday, August 25, 2018 2:03 PM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Why does Barsoomian, CIA operative, merit any mention? BECAUSE…. She is Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s WIFE!
Saturday, August 25, 2018 2:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "Before going to trial, does a prosecutor believe that no crimes were committed ..." Happens all the time.
Saturday, August 25, 2018 2:13 PM
Saturday, August 25, 2018 2:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Soooo... you really think that for the trial of the century Mueller is just going to go to court and wing it, and hope he gets lucky? I mean, I can definitely believe you are that dim, but...
Saturday, August 25, 2018 2:50 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Find me a single defense attorney who has gone to court at some point in their life knowing full well that their client was guilty of the crimes committed.John Gotti's lawyers went to trial 3 times knowing their client was guilty as hell, but they got a favorable verdict 2 times. If defense lawyers put on a good enough show for a dumb enough jury, any crime can go unpunished. Even murder.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Find me a single defense attorney who has gone to court at some point in their life knowing full well that their client was guilty of the crimes committed.
Quote:1 David Keaton FL B 1971 1973 2 Charges Dismissed 2 Samuel A. Poole NC B 1973 1974 1 Charges Dismissed 3 Wilbert Lee FL B 1963 1975 12 Pardoned 4 Freddie Pitts FL B 1963 1975 12 Pardoned 5 James Creamer GA W 1973 1975 2 Charges Dismissed 6 Christopher Spicer NC B 1973 1975 2 Acquitted 7 Thomas Gladish NM W 1974 1976 2 Charges Dismissed 8 Richard Greer NM W 1974 1976 2 Charges Dismissed 9 Ronald Keine NM W 1974 1976 2 Charges Dismissed 10 Clarence Smith NM W 1974 1976 2 Charges Dismissed 11 Delbert Tibbs FL B 1974 1977 3 Charges Dismissed 12 Earl Charles GA B 1975 1978 3 Charges Dismissed 13 Jonathan Treadway AZ W 1975 1978 3 Acquitted 14 Gary Beeman OH W 1976 1979 3 Acquitted 15 Jerry Banks GA B 1975 1980 5 Charges Dismissed 16 Larry Hicks IN B 1978 1980 2 Acquitted 17 Charles Ray Giddens OK B 1978 1981 3 Charges Dismissed 18 Michael Linder SC W 1979 1981 2 Acquitted 19 Johnny Ross LA B 1975 1981 6 Charges Dismissed 20 Ernest (Shujaa) Graham CA B 1976 1981 5 Acquitted 21 Annibal Jaramillo FL L 1981 1982 1 Charges Dismissed 22 Lawyer Johnson MA B 1971 1982 11 Charges Dismissed 23 Larry Fisher MS W 1984 1985 1 Acquitted 24 Anthony Brown FL B 1983 1986 3 Acquitted 25 Neil Ferber PA W 1982 1986 4 Charges Dismissed 26 Clifford Henry Bowen OK W 1981 1986 5 Charges Dismissed 27 Joseph Green Brown FL B 1974 1987 13 Charges Dismissed 28 Perry Cobb IL B 1979 1987 8 Acquitted 29 Darby (Jesse) Tillis IL B 1979 1987 8 Acquitted 30 Vernon McManus TX W 1977 1987 10 Charges Dismissed 31 Anthony Ray Peek FL B 1978 1987 9 Acquitted 32 Juan Ramos FL L 1983 1987 4 Acquitted 33 Robert Wallace GA B 1980 1987 7 Acquitted 34 Richard Neal Jones OK W 1983 1987 4 Acquitted 35 Willie Brown FL B 1983 1988 5 Charges Dismissed 36 Larry Troy FL B 1983 1988 5 Charges Dismissed 37 Randall Dale Adams TX W 1977 1989 12 Charges Dismissed 38 Robert Cox FL W 1988 1989 1 Charges Dismissed 39 James Richardson FL B 1968 1989 21 Charges Dismissed 40 Clarence Brandley TX B 1981 1990 9 Charges Dismissed 41 John C. Skelton TX W 1983 1990 7 Acquitted 42 Dale Johnston OH W 1984 1990 6 Charges Dismissed 43 Jimmy Lee Mathers AZ W 1987 1990 3 Acquitted 44 Gary Nelson GA B 1980 1991 11 Charges Dismissed 45 Bradley P. Scott FL W 1988 1991 3 Acquitted 46 Charles Smith IN B 1983 1991 8 Acquitted 47 Jay C. Smith PA W 1986 1992 6 Acquitted 48 Kirk Bloodsworth MD W 1984 1993 9 Charges Dismissed Yes 49 Federico M. Macias TX L 1984 1993 9 Charges Dismissed 50 Walter McMillian AL B 1988 1993 5 Charges Dismissed 51 Gregory R. Wilhoit OK W 1987 1993 6 Acquitted 52 James Robison AZ W 1977 1993 16 Acquitted 53 Muneer Deeb TX O 1985 1993 8 Acquitted 54 Andrew Golden FL W 1991 1994 3 Charges Dismissed 55 Adolph Munson OK B 1985 1995 10 Acquitted 56 Robert Charles Cruz AZ L 1981 1995 14 Acquitted 57 Rolando Cruz IL L 1985 1995 10 Acquitted Yes 58 Alejandro Hernandez IL L 1985 1995 10 Charges Dismissed Yes 59 Sabrina Butler MS B 1990 1995 5 Acquitted 60 Joseph Burrows IL W 1989 1996 7 Charges Dismissed 61 Verneal Jimerson IL B 1985 1996 11 Charges Dismissed Yes 62 Dennis Williams IL B 1979 1996 17 Charges Dismissed Yes 63 Roberto Miranda NV L 1982 1996 14 Charges Dismissed 64 Gary Gauger IL W 1993 1996 3 Charges Dismissed 65 Troy Lee Jones CA B 1982 1996 14 Charges Dismissed 66 Carl Lawson IL B 1990 1996 6 Acquitted 67 David Wayne Grannis AZ W 1991 1996 5 Charges Dismissed 68 Ricardo Aldape Guerra TX L 1982 1997 15 Charges Dismissed 69 Benjamin Harris WA B 1985 1997 12 Charges Dismissed 70 Robert Hayes FL B 1991 1997 6 Acquitted 71 Christopher McCrimmon AZ B 1993 1997 4 Acquitted 72 Randal Padgett AL W 1992 1997 5 Acquitted 73 Robert Lee Miller, Jr. OK B 1988 1998 10 Charges Dismissed Yes 74 Curtis Kyles LA B 1984 1998 14 Charges Dismissed 75 Shareef Cousin LA B 1996 1999 3 Charges Dismissed 76 Anthony Porter IL B 1983 1999 16 Charges Dismissed 77 Steven Smith IL B 1985 1999 14 Acquitted 78 Ronald Williamson OK W 1988 1999 11 Charges Dismissed Yes 79 Ronald Jones IL B 1989 1999 10 Charges Dismissed Yes 80 Clarence Dexter, Jr. MO W 1991 1999 8 Charges Dismissed 81 Warren Douglas Manning SC B 1989 1999 10 Acquitted 82 Alfred Rivera NC L 1997 1999 2 Charges Dismissed 83 Steve Manning IL W 1993 2000 7 Charges Dismissed 84 Eric Clemmons MO B 1987 2000 13 Acquitted 85 Joseph Nahume Green FL B 1993 2000 7 Charges Dismissed 86 Earl Washington VA B 1984 2000 16 Pardoned Yes 87 William Nieves PA L 1994 2000 6 Acquitted 88 Frank Lee Smith - died prior to exoneration FL B 1986 2000 ** 14 Charges Dismissed Yes 89 Michael Graham LA W 1987 2000 13 Charges Dismissed 90 Albert Burrell LA W 1987 2000 13 Charges Dismissed 91 Oscar Lee Morris CA B 1983 2000 17 Charges Dismissed 92 Peter Limone MA W 1968 2001 33 Charges Dismissed 93 Gary Drinkard AL W 1995 2001 6 Charges Dismissed 94 Joaquin Jose Martinez FL L 1997 2001 4 Acquitted 95 Jeremy Sheets NE W 1997 2001 4 Charges Dismissed 96 Charles Fain ID W 1983 2001 18 Charges Dismissed Yes 97 Juan Roberto Melendez FL L 1984 2002 18 Charges Dismissed 98 Ray Krone AZ W 1992 2002 10 Charges Dismissed Yes 99 Thomas Kimbell, Jr. PA W 1998 2002 4 Acquitted 100 Larry Osborne KY W 1999 2002 3 Charges Dismissed 101 Aaron Patterson IL B 1986 2003 17 Pardoned 102 Madison Hobley IL B 1987 2003 16 Pardoned 103 Leroy Orange IL B 1984 2003 19 Pardoned 104 Stanley Howard IL B 1987 2003 16 Pardoned 105 Rudolph Holton FL B 1986 2003 16 Charges Dismissed 106 Lemuel Prion AZ W 1999 2003 4 Charges Dismissed 107 Wesley Quick AL W 1997 2003 6 Acquitted 108 John Thompson LA B 1985 2003 18 Acquitted 109 Timothy Howard OH B 1976 2003 26 Charges Dismissed 110 Gary Lamar James OH B 1976 2003 26 Charges Dismissed 111 Joseph Amrine MO B 1986 2003 17 Charges Dismissed 112 Nicholas Yarris PA W 1982 2003 21 Charges Dismissed Yes 113 Alan Gell NC W 1998 2004 6 Acquitted 114 Gordon Steidl IL W 1987 2004 17 Charges Dismissed 115 Laurence Adams MA B 1974 2004 30 Charges Dismissed 116 Dan L. Bright LA B 1996 2004 8 Charges Dismissed 117 Ryan Matthews LA B 1999 2004 5 Charges Dismissed Yes 118 Ernest Ray Willis TX W 1987 2004 17 Charges Dismissed 119 Derrick Jamison OH B 1985 2005 20 Charges Dismissed 120 Harold Wilson PA B 1989 2005 16 Acquitted 121 John Ballard FL W 2003 2006 3 Acquitted 122 Curtis McCarty OK W 1986 2007 21 Charges Dismissed Yes 123 Michael McCormick TN W 1987 2007 20 Acquitted 124 Jonathon Hoffman NC B 1995 2007 12 Charges Dismissed 125 Kennedy Brewer MS B 1995 2008 13 Charges Dismissed Yes 126 Glen Chapman NC B 1994 2008 14 Charges Dismissed 127 Levon Jones NC B 1993 2008 15 Charges Dismissed 128 Michael Blair TX O 1994 2008 14 Charges Dismissed Yes 129 Nathson Fields IL B 1986 2009 23 Acquitted 130 Paul House TN W 1986 2009 23 Charges Dismissed 131 Daniel Wade Moore AL W 2002 2009 7 Acquitted 132 Ronald Kitchen IL B 1988 2009 21 Charges Dismissed 133 Herman Lindsey FL B 2006 2009 3 Acquitted 134 Michael Toney TX W 1999 2009 10 Charges Dismissed 135 Yancy Douglas OK B 1995 2009 14 Charges Dismissed 136 Paris Powell OK B 1997 2009 12 Charges Dismissed 137 Robert Springsteen TX W 2001 2009 8 Charges Dismissed 138 Anthony Graves TX B 1994 2010 16 Charges Dismissed 139 Gussie Vann TN W 1994 2011 17 Charges Dismissed 140 Joe D'Ambrosio OH W 1989 2012 23 Charges Dismissed 141 Damon Thibodeaux LA W 1997 2012 15 Charges Dismissed Yes 142 Seth Penalver FL W 1999 2012 13 Acquitted 143 Reginald Griffin MO B 1983 2013 30 Charges Dismissed 144 Glenn Ford LA B 1984 2014 30 Charges Dismissed 145 Carl Dausch FL W 2011 2014 3 Acquitted 146 Henry McCollum NC B 1984 2014 30 Charges Dismissed Yes 147 Leon Brown NC B 1984 2014 30 Charges Dismissed Yes 148 Ricky Jackson OH B 1975 2014 39 Charges Dismissed 149 Wiley Bridgeman OH B 1975 2014 39 Charges Dismissed 150 Kwame Ajamu OH B 1975 2014 39 Charges Dismissed 151 Debra Milke AZ W 1990 2015 25 Charges Dismissed 152 Anthony Hinton AL B 1985 2015 30 Charges Dismissed 153 Willie Manning MS B 1996 2015 19 Charges Dismissed 154 Alfred Brown TX B 2005 2015 10 Charges Dismissed 155 Lawrence William Lee GA W 1987 2015 28 Charges Dismissed 156 Derral Wayne Hodgkins FL W 2013 2015 2 Acquitted 157 Isaiah McCoy DE B 2012 2017 4 Acquitted 158 Rodricus Crawford LA B 2012 2017 5 Charges Dismissed 159 Ralph Daniel Wright, Jr. FL B 2014 2017 3 Acquitted 160 Rickey Dale Newman AR W 2002 2017 16 Charges Dismissed 161 Gabriel Solache IL L 2000 2017 17 Charges Dismissed 162 Vicente Benavides CA L 1993 2018 25 Charges Dismissed
Saturday, August 25, 2018 3:45 PM
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Saturday, August 25, 2018 5:04 PM
Saturday, August 25, 2018 5:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:The point has always been that Trump Hillary Bush Bill was/is/will be a crook. So what? Name me one President who WASN'T a crook and/or a liar. At the VERY BEGINNING, I said that Trump and Hillary were MORAL EQUIVALENTS, with perhaps an edge given to Trump simply because he didn't have the years in-office with which to accumulate wealth. Bill was at least as bad a pussy-grabber. Bush was a brain-burned dry drunk and worse ... he was just Cheney's sock puppet. And Hillary??? My oh my. If Hillary had ever been properly investigated she would never have run for office. SECOND, son, I don't vote for candidates because they're "nice people". I vote for them because of the POLICIES that I hope they'll follow. And I don't despise Presidents because of their personal foibles ... I couldn't give a rat's ass about Monica, but Bill's POLICIES were terrible and destructive to our nation. Grow up, son. Stop looking for a mommy or daddy in the White House.
Saturday, August 25, 2018 6:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: "It appears that they’re closing in on the basic financial structure of the Trump Organization. Perhaps the reasons why he’s not disclosing his tax returns. And what we may find there is really quite ugly." www.newsweek.com/robert-mueller-information-donald-trump-unreleased-tax-returns-1090814 If Trump owes a billion or two billion in back taxes, I'm pretty damn sure Trump voters will insist it is no big deal because it is only 10% or 20% of his net worth. Then they will say there is no evidence of more serious wrong doing and the Republicans in Congress will NOT remove Trump from office because it was all just a disagreement about technicalities of real estate tax law, minor points that needed to be corrected by Congress sooner. It will be like Trump University. Trump didn't admit to any wrongdoing in that, either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University This settlement marked a stunning reversal by President Trump, who for years refused to compensate the victims of his sham university. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Saturday, August 25, 2018 7:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: "It appears that they’re closing in on the basic financial structure of the Trump Organization. Perhaps the reasons why he’s not disclosing his tax returns. And what we may find there is really quite ugly." www.newsweek.com/robert-mueller-information-donald-trump-unreleased-tax-returns-1090814 If Trump owes a billion or two billion in back taxes, I'm pretty damn sure Trump voters will insist it is no big deal because it is only 10% or 20% of his net worth. Then they will say there is no evidence of more serious wrong doing and the Republicans in Congress will NOT remove Trump from office because it was all just a disagreement about technicalities of real estate tax law, minor points that needed to be corrected by Congress sooner. It will be like Trump University. Trump didn't admit to any wrongdoing in that, either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University This settlement marked a stunning reversal by President Trump, who for years refused to compensate the victims of his sham university. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly Well... that was a post about nothing. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Saturday, August 25, 2018 9:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: "It appears that they’re closing in on the basic financial structure of the Trump Organization. Perhaps the reasons why he’s not disclosing his tax returns. And what we may find there is really quite ugly." www.newsweek.com/robert-mueller-information-donald-trump-unreleased-tax-returns-1090814 If Trump owes a billion or two billion in back taxes, I'm pretty damn sure Trump voters will insist it is no big deal because it is only 10% or 20% of his net worth. Then they will say there is no evidence of more serious wrong doing and the Republicans in Congress will NOT remove Trump from office because it was all just a disagreement about technicalities of real estate tax law, minor points that needed to be corrected by Congress sooner. It will be like Trump University. Trump didn't admit to any wrongdoing in that, either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University This settlement marked a stunning reversal by President Trump, who for years refused to compensate the victims of his sham university. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly Well... that was a post about nothing. Do Right, Be Right. :)Do you realize that it took 12 years to get Trump to agree to pay $25,000,000 to Trump U students? He has not actually paid the money, yet, but if he had not won the Presidency he would probably still be in court arguing that he is innocent. This Mueller investigation could easily drag out for a dozen years, same as Trump U, which was an obvious open-and-shut case of fraud by Trump. I now remember that 6ixStringJack voted for Trump, so I should have expected 6ix was pretty blasé about fraud. How do feel about treason? No big deal, either? Only took 40 years to change the minds of some, not many, Republicans who voted for Nixon. Probably take 40 years for Trump. www.commondreams.org/views/2014/08/12/george-will-confirms-nixons-vietnam-treason The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Sunday, August 26, 2018 1:39 AM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECOND: THIS MIGHT BE THE RIGHT ANTIDOTE TO YOUR HYSTERICAL RIGHTEOUS PARTISANSHIP. I sure hope so, because you may not be a Jehovah's Witness anymore, but you've got the same stick up your ass. Plus, you hate everybody who isn't you. Quote: I am passing this on from someone who's connecting some dots with input from sources he cannot reveal. Here's what it looks like when all the pieces are sewn together It smells like conspiracy and treason. Everyone needs to read this. Slowly, and patiently, because it’s very important...... From 2001 to 2005 there was an ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation. A Grand Jury had been impanelled. Governments from around the world had donated to the “Charity”. Yet, from 2001 to 2003 none of those “Donations” to the Clinton Foundation were declared. Now you would think that an honest investigator would be able to figure this out. Look who took over this investigation in 2005: None other than James Comey; Coincidence? Guess who was transferred into the Internal Revenue Service to run the Tax Exemption Branch of the IRS? None other than, Lois “Be on The Look Out” (BOLO) Lerner. Isn’t that interesting? But this is all just a series of strange coincidences, right? Guess who ran the Tax Division inside the Department of Injustice from 2001 to 2005? No other than the Assistant Attorney General of the United States, Rod Rosenstein. Guess who was the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation during this time frame? Another coincidence (just an anomaly in statistics and chances), but it was Robert Mueller. What do all four casting characters have in common? They all were briefed and/or were front-line investigators into the Clinton Foundation Investigation. Another coincidence, right? Fast forward to 2009.... James Comey leaves the Justice Department to go and cash-in at Lockheed Martin. Hillary Clinton is running the State Department, official government business, on her own personal email server. The Uranium One “issue” comes to the attention of the Hillary. Like all good public servants do, supposedly looking out for America’s best interest, she decides to support the decision and approve the sale of 20% of US Uranium to no other than, the Russians. Now you would think that this is a fairly straight up deal, except it wasn’t, America got absolutely nothing out of it. However, prior to the sales approval, no other than Bill Clinton goes to Moscow, gets paid 500K for a one hour speech; then meets with Vladimir Putin at his home for a few hours. Ok, no big deal right? Well, not so fast, the FBI had a mole inside the money laundering and bribery scheme. Robert Mueller was the FBI Director during this time frame? Yep, He even delivered a Uranium Sample to Moscow in 2009. Who was handling that case within the Justice Department out of the US Attorney’s Office in Maryland? None other than, Rod Rosenstein. And what happened to the informant? The Department of Justice placed a GAG order on him and threatened to lock him up if he spoke out about it. How does 20% of the most strategic asset of the United States of America end up in Russian hands when the FBI has an informant, a mole providing inside information to the FBI on the criminal enterprise? Very soon after; the sale was approved!~145 million dollars in “donations” made their way into the Clinton Foundation from entities directly connected to the Uranium One deal. Guess who was still at the Internal Revenue Service working the Charitable Division? None other than, - Lois Lerner. Ok, that’s all just another series of coincidences, nothing to see here, right? Let’s fast forward to 2015. Due to a series of tragic events in Benghazi and after the 9 “investigations” the House, Senate and at State Department, Trey Gowdy who was running the 10th investigation as Chairman of the Select Committee on Benghazi discovers that the Hillary ran the State Department on an unclassified, unauthorized, outlaw personal email server.He also discovered that none of those emails had been turned over when she departed her “Public Service” as Secretary of State which was required by law. He also discovered that there was Top Secret information contained within her personally archived email. Sparing you the State Departments cover up, the nostrums they floated, the delay tactics that were employed and the outright lies that were spewed forth from the necks of the Kerry State Department, we shall leave it with this…… they did everything humanly possible to cover for Hillary. . Now this is amazing, guess who became FBI Director in 2013? None other than James Comey; who secured 17 no bid contracts for his employer (Lockheed Martin) with the State Department and was rewarded with a six million dollar thank you present when he departed his employer? Amazing how all those no-bids just went right through at State, huh? Now he is the FBI Director in charge of the “Clinton Email Investigation” after of course his FBI Investigates the Lois Lerner “Matter” at the Internal Revenue Service and he exonerates her. Nope.... couldn’t find any crimes there. In April 2016, James Comey drafts an exoneration letter of Hillary Rodham Clinton, meanwhile the DOJ is handing out immunity deals like candy.They didn’t even convene a Grand Jury! Like a lightning bolt of statistical impossibility, like a miracle from God himself, like the true “Gangsta” Comey is, James steps out into the cameras of an awaiting press conference on July the 8th of 2016, and exonerates the Hillary from any wrongdoing. Do you see the pattern? It goes on and on, Rosenstein becomes Asst. Attorney General,Comey gets fired based upon a letter by Rosenstein, Comey leaks government information to the press, Mueller is assigned to the Russian Investigation sham by Rosenstein to provide cover for decades of malfeasance within the FBI and DOJ and the story continues. FISA Abuse, political espionage..... pick a crime, any crime, chances are...... this group and a few others did it: All the same players. All compromised and conflicted. All working fervently to NOT go to jail themselves All connected in one way or another to the Clinton's. They are like battery acid; they corrode and corrupt everything they touch.How many lives have these two destroyed? As of this writing, the Clinton Foundation, in its 20+ years of operation of being the largest International Charity Fraud in the history of mankind, has never been audited by the Internal Revenue Service. Let us not forget that Comey's brother works for DLA Piper, the law firm that does the Clinton Foundation's taxes. The person that is the common denominator to all the crimes above and still doing her evil escape legal maneuvers at the top of the 3 Letter USA Agencies? Yep, that would be Hillary R. Clinton. Now who is LISA BARSOOMIAN? Let’s learn a little about Mrs. Lisa H. Barsoomian’s background. Lisa H. Barsoomian, an Attorney that graduated from Georgetown Law, is a protégé of James Comey and Robert Mueller. Barsoomian, with her boss R. Craig Lawrence, represented Bill Clinton in 1998. Lawrence also represented: Robert Mueller three times; James Comey five times; Barack Obama 45 times; Kathleen Sebelius 56 times; Bill Clinton 40 times; and Hillary Clinton 17 times. Between 1998 and 2017, Barsoomian herself represented the FBI at least five times. You may be saying to yourself, OK, who cares? Who cares about the work history of this Barsoomian woman? Apparently, someone does, because someone out there cares so much that they’ve “purged” all Barsoomian court documents for her Clinton representation in Hamburg vs. Clinton in 1998 and its appeal in 1999 from the DC District and Appeals Court dockets (?). Someone out there cares so much that even the internet has been “purged” of all information pertaining to Barsoomian. Historically, this indicates that the individual is a protected CIA operative. Additionally, Lisa Barsoomian has specialized in opposing Freedom of Information Act requests on behalf of the intelligence community. Although Barsoomian has been involved in hundreds of cases representing the DC Office of the US Attorney, her email address is Lisa Barsoomian at NIH.gov. The NIH stands for National Institutes of Health. This is a tactic routinely used by the CIA to protect an operative by using another government organization to shield their activities. It’s a cover, so big deal right? What does one more attorney with ties to the US intelligence community really matter? It deals with Trump and his recent tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum imports, the border wall, DACA, everything coming out of California, the Uni-party unrelenting opposition to President Trump, the Clapper leaks, the Comey leaks, Attorney General Jeff Sessions recusal and subsequent 14 month nap with occasional forays into the marijuana legalization mix …. and last but not least Mueller’s never-ending investigation into collusion between the Trump team and-the Russians. Why does Barsoomian, CIA operative, merit any mention? BECAUSE…. She is Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s WIFE! Reddit
Sunday, August 26, 2018 1:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "Before going to trial, does a prosecutor believe that no crimes were committed ..." Happens all the time. THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."
Sunday, August 26, 2018 1:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The funny thing is - and I know I've posted about this a few times already - I knew a man personally who was falsely accused of murder. Watching the whole thing play out was an eye-opener. Now the murder was a gay-lover murder, and it took place almost 60 miles from where my acquaintance "Don" worked and lived with his wife and stepchildren. The ONLY "evidence" that the detective had that "Don" was the killer was drunken eyewitness testimony that "Don" was at a gay bar at a certain time and place. The only other piece of evidence was skin that the murderer left on a broken pane of glass as he lept thru the window (yanno, like in the movies) to run away from the scene of the crime (2nd story apartment). THAT evidence was sitting in queue in the crime lab for DNA testing, which wasn't scheduled to take place for about six months. From the time that the police terrorized "Don's" family ... busting down their apartment door, yelling at the wife and small kids, questioning them about where "Don" was at a certain time and place and then dismissing their alibis for him ... taking him to jail (with a bad electrical burn that he had gotten the day before at work, and then not treating it), denying him bail and attempting to get "Don" to plea bargain to a lesser charge ... and ESPECIALLY the detective's cast-iron certainty that "don" was the perp ... I saw the non-TV version of the "justice system": all the detectives want to do is "clear the case" by charging someone, and all the prosecutors want to do is get a plea deal or a conviction because they are rated on their "conviction rates" ... Evidence that countervails the official narrative is ignored, the system really doesn't care if the suspect is innocent or guilty. Now "Don" was all kinds of asshole ... he was a drug addict who stole the family money for crack, a flim-flam man who was really smart but never turned his smarts into anything productive, who preyed on the emotional weaknesses of his wife. BUT he wasn't a murderer! It took six months of "Don" sitting in jail before the DNA testing was completed and "Don" was freed ... job lost, family gone, permanently scarified arm with limited mobility. Yeah, investigators and prosecutors really DO "go after" innocent people.
Sunday, August 26, 2018 2:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: LET'S NOT FORGET THAT MUELLER AND COMEY HOUNDED AN INNOCENT MAN IN THE ANTHRAX CASE WHILE IGNORING THE REAL PERP. Quote: First, I’ll say that when I heard Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein had appointed Bob Mueller as a special prosecutor, I didn’t experience the same rhapsody as my capital compatriots. Why? Three reasons. First, Jim Comey and Bob Mueller have a long history as professional allies. For Mueller to be brought in to investigate the behavior of the guy who sacked Comey seems a conflict of interest. Perhaps this is the wrong way to look at it, and that Mueller’s professionalism will supersede any personal loyalty. Okay, but here’s a second reason: These two guys, working in tandem, have a track record of bureaucratic infighting – with another Republican White House as their shared adversary -- that belies their reputations for being above political intrigue.... The third and most important factor tempering my enthusiasm for the new special prosecutor is that Comey and Mueller badly bungled the biggest case they ever handled. They botched the investigation of the 2001 anthrax letter attacks that took five lives and infected 17 other people, shut down the U.S. Capitol and Washington’s mail system, solidified the Bush administration’s antipathy for Iraq, and eventually, when the facts finally came out, made the FBI look feckless, incompetent, and easily manipulated by outside political pressure. This, too, was an enormously complex case. But here are some facts: Despite the jihadist slogans accompanying the mailed anthrax, it had nothing to do with Saddam Hussein or any foreign element; the FBI ignored a 2002 tip from a scientific colleague of the actual anthrax killer, who turned out to be a Fort Detrick scientist named Bruce Edwards Ivins; Ivins was never proved guilty either, since he committed suicide. The author is guilty of trying and convicting a dead man in the press, just like the press tried and convicted Hatfill originally. Quote: the reason is that they had quickly obsessed on an innocent man named Steven Hatfill; the bureau was bullied into focusing on the government scientist by Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy (whose office, along with that of Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, was targeted by an anthrax-laced letter) and was duped into focusing on Hatfill by two sources – a conspiracy-minded college professor with a political agenda who’d never met Hatfill and by Nicholas Kristof, who put his conspiracy theories in the paper while mocking the FBI for not arresting Hatfill. In truth, Hatfill was an implausible suspect from the outset. He was a virologist who never handled anthrax, which is a bacterium. (Ivins, by contrast, shared ownership of anthrax patents, was diagnosed as having paranoid personality disorder, and had a habit of stalking and threatening people with anonymous letters – including the woman who provided the long-ignored tip to the FBI). So what evidence did the FBI have against Hatfill? There was none, so the agency did a Hail Mary, importing two bloodhounds from California whose handlers claimed could sniff the scent of the killer on the anthrax-tainted letters. These dogs were shown to Hatfill, who promptly petted them. When the dogs responded favorably, their handlers told the FBI that they’d “alerted” on Hatfill and that he must be the killer. I think in this case we see much the same processes going on: media-whipped hysteria, pressure to find and convict, the cobbling together of bits and pieces pf "evidence" into a damning but false picture. Does anyone remember when the last "hot thing" about the so-called Russia conspiracy was the fact that some bank in Russia "pinged" Trump Tower? No? On such was all of this hysteria built. So far, what I see is that there is no evidence of ... let's not use the word "collusion" since that's not a crime, let's use the word "conspiracy" which is a more meaningful term ... between Russia and the Trump campaign. A lot of hot air and many many wasted bytes. I'm still waiting for Julian Assange to testify. When Trump bleachbits an entire server of subpoenaed emails, accepts hundreds of millions of dollars of "charitable donations" from foreign entities while running for office, pays for dirt FROM THE RUSSIANS on his political rival, and cooks up a secret uranium deal with the Russians, let me know.
Quote: First, I’ll say that when I heard Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein had appointed Bob Mueller as a special prosecutor, I didn’t experience the same rhapsody as my capital compatriots. Why? Three reasons. First, Jim Comey and Bob Mueller have a long history as professional allies. For Mueller to be brought in to investigate the behavior of the guy who sacked Comey seems a conflict of interest. Perhaps this is the wrong way to look at it, and that Mueller’s professionalism will supersede any personal loyalty. Okay, but here’s a second reason: These two guys, working in tandem, have a track record of bureaucratic infighting – with another Republican White House as their shared adversary -- that belies their reputations for being above political intrigue.... The third and most important factor tempering my enthusiasm for the new special prosecutor is that Comey and Mueller badly bungled the biggest case they ever handled. They botched the investigation of the 2001 anthrax letter attacks that took five lives and infected 17 other people, shut down the U.S. Capitol and Washington’s mail system, solidified the Bush administration’s antipathy for Iraq, and eventually, when the facts finally came out, made the FBI look feckless, incompetent, and easily manipulated by outside political pressure. This, too, was an enormously complex case. But here are some facts: Despite the jihadist slogans accompanying the mailed anthrax, it had nothing to do with Saddam Hussein or any foreign element; the FBI ignored a 2002 tip from a scientific colleague of the actual anthrax killer, who turned out to be a Fort Detrick scientist named Bruce Edwards Ivins;
Quote: the reason is that they had quickly obsessed on an innocent man named Steven Hatfill; the bureau was bullied into focusing on the government scientist by Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy (whose office, along with that of Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, was targeted by an anthrax-laced letter) and was duped into focusing on Hatfill by two sources – a conspiracy-minded college professor with a political agenda who’d never met Hatfill and by Nicholas Kristof, who put his conspiracy theories in the paper while mocking the FBI for not arresting Hatfill. In truth, Hatfill was an implausible suspect from the outset. He was a virologist who never handled anthrax, which is a bacterium. (Ivins, by contrast, shared ownership of anthrax patents, was diagnosed as having paranoid personality disorder, and had a habit of stalking and threatening people with anonymous letters – including the woman who provided the long-ignored tip to the FBI). So what evidence did the FBI have against Hatfill? There was none, so the agency did a Hail Mary, importing two bloodhounds from California whose handlers claimed could sniff the scent of the killer on the anthrax-tainted letters. These dogs were shown to Hatfill, who promptly petted them. When the dogs responded favorably, their handlers told the FBI that they’d “alerted” on Hatfill and that he must be the killer.
Sunday, August 26, 2018 2:12 AM
Quote:Do you mind if I copy this to the thread on Mueller's Gang of Criminals?
Sunday, August 26, 2018 2:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "The prosecutors ... have to decide if a crime was committed months before a jury decides." Are you saying mere accusation by a prosecutor is proof of guilt? You DO realize that's a distinctly anti-American position to take - right?Before going to trial, does a prosecutor believe that no crimes were committed, but goes to trial anyway so that a jury can look over and double-check the evidence and maybe, just maybe, find a crime that the prosecutor missed or overlooked? Why not? Find me a single defense attorney who has gone to court at some point in their life knowing full well that their client was guilty of the crimes committed.
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "The prosecutors ... have to decide if a crime was committed months before a jury decides." Are you saying mere accusation by a prosecutor is proof of guilt? You DO realize that's a distinctly anti-American position to take - right?Before going to trial, does a prosecutor believe that no crimes were committed, but goes to trial anyway so that a jury can look over and double-check the evidence and maybe, just maybe, find a crime that the prosecutor missed or overlooked?
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "The prosecutors ... have to decide if a crime was committed months before a jury decides." Are you saying mere accusation by a prosecutor is proof of guilt? You DO realize that's a distinctly anti-American position to take - right?
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Sunday, August 26, 2018 4:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Soooo... you really think that for the trial of the century Mueller is just going to go to court and wing it, and hope he gets lucky? I mean, I can definitely believe you are that dim, but...
Sunday, August 26, 2018 5:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Soooo... you really think that for the trial of the century Mueller is just going to go to court and wing it, and hope he gets lucky? I mean, I can definitely believe you are that dim, but... strawman/ trolling
Sunday, August 26, 2018 6:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: You just remember right now that I voted for Trump, huh? lol You're a clown. Everything that you type is a joke. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, August 26, 2018 7:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: You just remember right now that I voted for Trump, huh? lol You're a clown. Everything that you type is a joke. Do Right, Be Right. :)The joke is on you. Trump gave me a multi-million dollar tax cut and I did not vote for him. What did you get from Trump that is "worth the price of a turd?" I can remember how a local sample of Texans acted to Watergate. The same people who believed Nixon and his vice president Agnew were unfairly hounded from office are the older but not wiser people who voted for Trump. 6ixStringJack, you didn't vote for Nixon, but your thinking is unwise enough to have. Somewhere you already said you would vote Trump in 2020 because you despise the Libs. 6ix, you are not Henry David Thoreau living on a small income in cabin near Walden Pond. You are a guy making bad decisions living on a small income. Unsurprising that you voted for Trump. You are "special" for making life hard for yourself. You should write a book, your version of On Walden Pond. But you'll need to do more than "LOL at the libs" for the book to become a classic. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Sunday, August 26, 2018 8:52 AM
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Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "After 434 posts, one might imagine somebody might have found at least one tidbit of Evidence. But not one single piece of Evidence after 11 months of this thread! What does that tell us?" I don't know about you, but it tells me Russia-gate is our current version of Iraq's WMDs. It's a fiction created by people in government, based on alleged secret 'evidence' no one is allowed to see, constantly whipped into a froth by those same people to make it look bigger than it really is, and drummed into us every single blessed day by our official propaganda arm, the media. Lest we lose track of what we're supposed to be thinking.
Sunday, August 26, 2018 9:22 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Soooo... you really think that for the trial of the century Mueller is just going to go to court and wing it, and hope he gets lucky? I mean, I can definitely believe you are that dim, but... strawman/ trolling Ask a troll a serious question and they pass gas and run away. Cya troll! Come back when you can think up an actual, real answer and not just insults.
Sunday, August 26, 2018 2:50 PM
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Sunday, August 26, 2018 11:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Soooo... you really think that for the trial of the century Mueller is just going to go to court and wing it, and hope he gets lucky? I mean, I can definitely believe you are that dim, but... strawman/ trolling Ask a troll a serious question and they pass gas and run away. Cya troll! Come back when you can think up an actual, real answer and not just insults.YO! NUMBSKULL! This is a thread about Evidence of any Trump! Russia! Collusion! - of which there is No Evidence so far. So Trolling your Strawman line from a separate unrelated delusion of yours does not have any use in this thread. Go back to the hole you've been hiding in, at least until you sprout a brain.
Quote: I thought that was already decided (at least for the most gullible)...maybe you missed it, but I was a sucker for the whole works? Here's some helpful details: A timeline surrounding No Collusion. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/a-timeline-surrounding-no-collusion Last Updated Jul 11, 2017 7:43 PM EDT More details about No Collusion during the 2016 campaign have surfaced in recent days, in the face of persistent White House denials of any collusion between Trump campaign and Russia during the election cycle. The president's eldest son has also offered a succession of responses to these developments of No Evidence. Here's a timeline of No Collusion and the email correspondence around it: June 3, 2016 Rob Goldstone emails Trump Jr. about No Collusion. "The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with [Emin Agalarov's] father this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary (not exactly difficult to do, with her laundry list of crimes) and her Collusion with Russia and would be very useful to your father." The email also says, "This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin."
Quote: "Aras" is Emin Agalarov's father, a Russian billionaire with apparent connections to the Kremlin. Goldstone offers in his email to send the information to Mr. Trump, "but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first," he wrote to Trump Jr. Trump Jr. replies, "If it's what you say, I love it especially later in the summer." June 7, 2016 Goldstone emails Trump Jr. again and says Emin asked that he schedule a meeting with Trump Jr. and "the Russian government attorney" who is flying over from Moscow on the following Thursday, Veselnitskaya. June 9, 2016 Donald Trump Jr. meets with Russian lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, producing No Evidence of any Collusion. Veselnitskaya also said that Kushner was only present at the meeting for the first 7-10 minutes and Manafort looked at his phone during the meeting and did not actively participate.
Quote: July 24, 2016 A month after Trump Jr.'s email exchange and subsequent meeting with Veselnitskaya, he appeared on CNN. The Democratic National Committee (DNC) emails had just been leaked, an episode Clapper's intelligence community later blamed on the Russians. He also said that the experts thought the actions could be part of a plot to help Mr. Trump and hurt Hillary Clinton. In response, Trump Jr. told CNN's Jake Tapper many factual statements having nothing to do with anything like Collusion. November 11, 2016 A few days after the election, No Evidence is reported of anything akin to Collusion. December 18, 2016 Kellyanne Conway is asked in an interview about No Evidence of any Collusion. 2017 March 2017 When Trump Jr. was interviewed about No Evidence..... July 8, 2017 The New York Times first reports that Trump Jr. arranged to meet with Veselnitskaya during the presidential campaign, producing No Evidence of any Collusion. July 9, 2017 A day after its report about the meeting, the Times cites three advisers to the White House who told the Times that that Trump Jr. had agreed to meet with Veselnitskaya after he was promised she would provide damaging information about Hillary Clinton. July 10, 2017 The New York Times reports that Trump Jr. had been informed by email that the compromising information Veselnitskaya was going to offer him on Hillary Clinton was part of the Russian government's effort to help President Trump's candidacy. Trump Jr. tweeted, "Obviously, I'm the first person on a campaign to ever take a meeting to hear info about an opponent...went nowhere but had to listen." Sorry Donny, just the first person to collude, er take a meeting with that many Russians. More at: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/a-timeline-surrounding-no-evidence @Kiki - no answer?
Monday, August 27, 2018 12:18 AM
Monday, August 27, 2018 12:41 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Michael Cohen, Trump's former lawyer and one of his closest associates, has testified to a scheme that, at bottom, involves breaking the law to win an election. Trump would have his supporters believe that he faces these serious legal problems only because his adversaries wish to dispute the legitimacy of the election. He is deceiving himself or his intended audience, or both.
Monday, August 27, 2018 3:38 AM
Monday, August 27, 2018 7:49 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by second: Michael Cohen, Trump's former lawyer and one of his closest associates, has testified to a scheme that, at bottom, involves breaking the law to win an election. Trump would have his supporters believe that he faces these serious legal problems only because his adversaries wish to dispute the legitimacy of the election. He is deceiving himself or his intended audience, or both. How confused can second get? 1) When Cohen's was raided by the FBI Criminals, it didn't seem like much more than an opportunity for the Clinton/FBI/CIA/DoJ Crime Family to plant Evidence. 2) This was largely dependent upon the poor assumption that Trump had not surrounded himself with Liberal Criminal Democrats. 3) So lifelong Democrat Cohen scrounges around for the most Incompetent Defense Lawyer available, and succeeds in finding Libtard Democrap Clintonista Lannie Davis. 4) Cohen wants to plead guilty to Tax Evasion charges, but Liberal Democrap Lannie Davis Colludes with Liberal Democraps at Asst US Atty's to violate Cohen's rights by refusing to accept Cohen's guilty plea. 5) They demand that the only way they will allow him to plea to the Tax Charges is if he also proclaims numerous false statements regarding Trump, so that these ludicrous claims will never need to suffer the light, or burden of proof required in a Court of Law.
Monday, August 27, 2018 8:04 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "following a clear statement in the email traffic preceding the meeting that left no doubt of Kremlin sponsorship of the initiative." Somebody said that somebody said. That's not evidence, that's gossip. "A challenge to the constitutionality of the broad ban on foreign national spending — which includes providing anything of “value” to a campaign" Oh, you mean Hillary didn't need to be DIRECTLY involved to be implicated by the Russians participation in her campaign's opposition research? Oh dear. THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt.
Monday, August 27, 2018 11:37 AM
Monday, August 27, 2018 12:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "following a clear statement in the email traffic preceding the meeting that left no doubt of Kremlin sponsorship of the initiative." Somebody said that somebody said. That's not evidence, that's gossip. "A challenge to the constitutionality of the broad ban on foreign national spending — which includes providing anything of “value” to a campaign" Oh, you mean Hillary didn't need to be DIRECTLY involved to be implicated by the Russians participation in her campaign's opposition research? Oh dear.
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Monday, August 27, 2018 2:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Mr. President, rip off the bandage: Declassify. "The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
Monday, August 27, 2018 2:53 PM
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