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Tuesday, January 1, 2019 5:43 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:

Hang man iz kumin down from the gallowz and Trump duznt hav very long.




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Wednesday, January 2, 2019 6:16 PM

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Wednesday, January 2, 2019 8:01 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I'm just going to laugh thinking about the day where you guys look back at your beliefs and your behaviors the past few years in shame and embarrassment.

The really funny thing is that most of you, presumably, weren't even drunks when you did it.

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Thursday, January 3, 2019 3:57 PM

THG


Tick tock J0. It's a commin...

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Thursday, January 3, 2019 8:14 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You've been saying this since Valentine's Day 2017.

Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?

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Wednesday, January 9, 2019 1:43 PM

THG


Mueller Suspects Manafort Gave 2016 Polling Data to Russian

(Bloomberg) -- Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team suspects that Paul Manafort, the onetime Trump campaign chairman, shared polling data on the 2016 election with an associate tied to Russian intelligence and lied about it, according to a court filing by Manafort’s lawyers.

https://news.yahoo.com/manafort-denies-intentionally-lying-mueller-182
823190.html


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Saturday, January 12, 2019 9:04 AM

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Jon Meacham On NYT Bombshell: This Is What The Founders Worried About | The 11th Hour


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Saturday, January 12, 2019 9:37 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Jon Meacham On NYT Bombshell: This Is What The Founders Worried About | The 11th Hour




Makes me wonder though... if they did this investigation they must not have found anything too conclusive, otherwise they would have clamped the cuffs on him, right? They wouldn't wait if he was in deep - what would they be waiting for? Some have said they handed stuff to Mueller, but damn, if it's right there then you don't just leave a traitor in the most powerful office in hopes that Mueller will take care of it. And When even? Dubious.

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Saturday, January 12, 2019 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

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Jon Meacham On NYT Bombshell: This Is What The Founders Worried About | The 11th Hour




Makes me wonder though... if they did this investigation they must not have found anything too conclusive, otherwise they would have clamped the cuffs on him, right? They wouldn't wait if he was in deep - what would they be waiting for? Some have said they handed stuff to Mueller, but damn, if it's right there then you don't just leave a traitor in the most powerful office in hopes that Mueller will take care of it. And When even? Dubious.



Actually, a counter intelligence investigation proceeds under the radar. You can bet our allies around the world are working with us. If there is more evidence to gather than you gather it. It reportedly takes years to unravel all in these type investigations.

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Saturday, January 12, 2019 11:04 AM

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It reportedly takes years to unravel all in these type investigations.

If Nixon/Vietnam is a data point, the investigation into Trump/Russia will finish too late to make a difference. Most all Democrats, and all Republicans, aren't aware of the crimes Nixon's people committed for him to get elected in 1968:

www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/7/19/15994924/nixon-trump-vietnam-russia
-historical-parallels


What follows is the tale of how the campaign of a megalomaniacal Republican candidate [Nixon] colluded with a foreign power to swing an American presidential election. And how US national security agencies unearthed proof of the plot, but failed to intercede and stop it — leaving an incumbent Democratic president fuming in impotent fury.

As you doubtless suspected, we are speaking not about Donald Trump and his interactions with Russia, but another episode in modern presidential history — namely, Richard Nixon’s off-the-books diplomacy with South Vietnam, in advance of the 1968 elections. In that year, Nixon employed secret emissaries to urge South Vietnamese officials to stall, and thus wreck, President Lyndon Johnson’s election eve effort to convene a peace conference and bring an end to the Vietnam War.

Johnson learned of the Republican intrigue but, like President Barack Obama and US security agencies almost 50 years later, declined to go public without proof of the candidate’s direct, personal involvement.

www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/06/nixon-vietnam-candidate-con
spired-with-foreign-power-win-election-215461


Nixon steadfastly denied involvement up until his death, while his lawyers fended off efforts to obtain records from the 1968 campaign.

It wasn’t until after 2007, when the Nixon Presidential Library finally opened Haldeman’s notes to the public, that I stumbled upon a smoking gun in the course of conducting research for my biography of Nixon: four pages of notes his brush-cut aide had scrawled late on an October evening in 1968.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, January 13, 2019 2:38 AM

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Wut iz it about the Republican party that drawz crooks like pedofilez to the Catholic church?

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Sunday, January 13, 2019 3:54 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Plenty of crooks on both sides, bud.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, January 13, 2019 3:54 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Plenty of child rapists in Islam too.

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Sunday, January 13, 2019 7:15 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

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Wut iz it about the Republican party that drawz crooks like pedofilez to the Catholic church?



The lowest of low bars, the slimiest and lowest of any employment standards. You look at the people, the "best people" that Trump attracts and then get canned or quit - it's amazing, unprecedented.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/16/us/politics/all-the-maj
or-firings-and-resignations-in-trump-administration.html


I'd post the list but everyone knows it's true. These are the worst people.

Related: this doesn't include the list of department positions and just general job vacancies there are in the federal government, positions that have never been filled or were filled with unqualified people. It's basically a shell. Virtually no one of quality wants anything to do with him. The absolute joke this admin is is the darkest of humor. Once he's gone we're going to look back in wonder. I guess it's a testament to how strong this country is even with Dump f*cking things up beyond all belief.

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Sunday, January 13, 2019 8:15 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Plenty of crooks on both sides, bud.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Generally when crooks have meetings they don't save notes for fear the FBI will find those notes. Notes are evidence:

There are no detailed records of five personal meetings President Donald Trump has had with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Trump's efforts include confiscating the notes from his interpreter and not allowing them to discuss the details of the meetings with other officials in his administration.

The constraints that Trump imposed are part of a broader pattern by the president of shielding his communications with Putin from public scrutiny and preventing even high-ranking officials in his own administration from fully knowing what he has told one of the United States’ main adversaries.

As a result, U.S. officials said there is no detailed record, even in classified files, of Trump’s face-to-face interactions with the Russian leader at five locations over the past two years. Such a gap would be unusual in any presidency, let alone one that Russia sought to install through what U.S. intelligence agencies have described as an unprecedented campaign of election interference.

Sen. Bob Menendez, the ranking member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said the first thing he'd go after would be the notes from the translators in the Putin meetings. "I'd like to get the notes of the meeting that the President had with Putin. There was a translator so I'm sure she took notes down simultaneously in order to translate. Unless she's destroyed them, they would be of interest," he said.

White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders didn’t know what to think. "The Washington Post story is so outrageously inaccurate it doesn't even warrant a response," was her non-response.

www.cnn.com/2019/01/12/politics/trump-putin-meetings-no-records/index.
html

https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2019/01/12/trump-has-concealed-detail
s-of-his-face-to-face-encounters-with-putin-from-senior-officials-in-administration
/


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, January 13, 2019 9:24 AM

THG


It looks as though there is evidence that shows Trumps team had 110 contacts with the Russians during the campaign.

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Sunday, January 13, 2019 1:05 PM

JO753

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The thing that bugz me about the Demz on this iz their dodo bird respons wenever sumthing new pops up.

"We haf to wait for the Mueller investigation to run its course".

They often repeat the 'no evidens' fraze, even after punch-in-the-fase obvious insidents uv Trump doing Putinz bidding.

Its not just failing to connect the dots, its willfully disconnecting them!

A good way to looz a war iz to pretend its not happening.

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Sunday, January 13, 2019 1:33 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
The thing that bugz me about the Demz on this iz their dodo bird respons wenever sumthing new pops up.

"We haf to wait for the Mueller investigation to run its course".

They often repeat the 'no evidens' fraze, even after punch-in-the-fase obvious insidents uv Trump doing Putinz bidding.

Its not just failing to connect the dots, its willfully disconnecting them!

A good way to looz a war iz to pretend its not happening.



They're trying to keep the country from tearing itself apart. The more comes out the more we gain allies and the less likely many republicans will dig in regardless of the evidence. Patience, it's coming.

I'm sure there's much more evidence that Mueller has and we need to be sure not cut the legs out from under him.

tick tock

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Sunday, January 13, 2019 1:36 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
The thing that bugz me about the Demz on this iz their dodo bird respons wenever sumthing new pops up.

"We haf to wait for the Mueller investigation to run its course".

They often repeat the 'no evidens' fraze, even after punch-in-the-fase obvious insidents uv Trump doing Putinz bidding.

Its not just failing to connect the dots, its willfully disconnecting them!

A good way to looz a war iz to pretend its not happening.

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lol... you mean that even most Democratic politicians don't buy into the Russian bullshit either. You don't say.

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Sunday, January 13, 2019 2:33 PM

REAVERFAN


It's not bullshit. Democrats have become so wimpy lately, you can hardly tell them from Republicans anymore.

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Sunday, January 13, 2019 3:36 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by reaverfan:
It's not bullshit. Democrats have become so wimpy lately, you can hardly tell them from Republicans anymore.



Funny. I'd say the same thing about most Republicans.



...

That Blue "Wave" not going the way you planned, guys and gals?

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Sunday, January 13, 2019 4:18 PM

THG


The problem with the far left is that while they understand that radicalism has destroyed the republican party, they don't recognize that same characteristic within themselves.

They are attacking the moderates in their own party just as the republicans did. Get your act together or go away I say. The republicans elected someone without any experience in governing or global affairs to be president. I see where the far left would do the same. Get your act together or go away I say. I see them say a white guy should not be elected president because of the color of his skin. Get your shit together or go away I say.

I see them canceling me-to marches because there are to many white women living in the area and they don't want all those white faces representing the movement. White women started the movement. Get your act together or go away I say.

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Sunday, January 13, 2019 4:55 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:

It's not bullshit. Democrats have become so wimpy lately, you can hardly tell them from Republicans anymore.


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Carl Bernstein: Trump helped Putin destabilize US


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Sunday, January 13, 2019 5:44 PM

REAVERFAN


It’s Already Collusion
We don’t need news reports to tell us that Trump is giving Putin what he wants. Take it from this longtime Russia hand: It’s staring us in the face.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/01/13/trump-russia-collus
ion-putin-223973


Whether he knows it or not, Trump is integral to Putin’s strategy to strengthen authoritarian regimes and undermine democracies around the world. This unprecedented aberration defiles what America stands for at home and abroad; it alienates and dispirits our allies; and—if it is allowed to persist—it will jeopardize our security.

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Sunday, January 13, 2019 6:04 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
The problem with the far left is that while they understand that radicalism has destroyed the republican party, they don't recognize that same characteristic within themselves.

They are attacking the moderates in their own party just as the republicans did. Get your act together or go away I say. The republicans elected someone without any experience in governing or global affairs to be president. I see where the far left would do the same. Get your act together or go away I say. I see them say a white guy should not be elected president because of the color of his skin. Get your shit together or go away I say.

I see them canceling me-to marches because there are to many white women living in the area and they don't want all those white faces representing the movement. White women started the movement. Get your act together or go away I say.

T





Careful where you post this. You're likely to be called alt-right for saying so.

Reaverfan would tell you that you agree with a Nazi.

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Saturday, January 26, 2019 5:29 AM

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Stone arrested



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Saturday, January 26, 2019 5:30 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Did you sleep in yesterday?

Can't blame you. It's friggin cold.

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Thursday, February 7, 2019 8:26 AM

THG


Maria Butina’s NRA boyfriend arrested for decades-long criminal scheme

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/02/maria-butinas-nra-boyfriend-arrested-
decades-long-criminal-scheme
/

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Thursday, February 7, 2019 9:55 AM

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Maria Butina’s NRA boyfriend arrested for decades-long criminal scheme

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/02/maria-butinas-nra-boyfriend-arrested-
decades-long-criminal-scheme
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"The best people!"

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Monday, April 1, 2019 5:26 AM

JO753

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Starting to look like they will sekseed in sweeping it all under the rug.

America wuz suppozed to be a nation uv lawz but that idea never really worked out.

Us pee onz are subject to The Law, but if youre rich andor well connected, therez not much you cant get away with. Trump and hiz gang hav been getting away with major stuff for decadez. Treazon iz just their latest & greatest.

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Monday, April 1, 2019 8:35 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Starting to look like they will sekseed in sweeping it all under the rug.

America wuz suppozed to be a nation uv lawz but that idea never really worked out.

Us pee onz are subject to The Law, but if youre rich andor well connected, therez not much you cant get away with. Trump and hiz gang hav been getting away with major stuff for decadez. Treazon iz just their latest & greatest.

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I doubt very much he was guilty of treason. I'm sure he was guilty of plenty of other things.

You're right though, JO.

They've done a great job of pitting the races and the sexes and religions and everything else under the sun against each other in the last 20 years.

The only true inequality in America in 2019 is the Haves and the Have-nots.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, April 1, 2019 9:25 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You're right though, JO.

They've done a great job of pitting the races and the sexes and religions and everything else under the sun against each other in the last 20 years.

The only true inequality in America in 2019 is the Haves and the Have-nots.

Financier Jay Gould boasted that he could “hire one-half the working class to shoot the other half to death.”

Andrew Carnegie, steel magnate and one of the 19th century’s richest men, made an offhand remark while bragging about his wealth to a newspaper reporter in early 1892: “It isn’t the man who does the work that makes the money. It’s the man who gets other men to do it.”

Several months later while on vacation in Scotland, Carnegie sent a telegram approving of his deputy’s decision to unleash a private army on strikers and their families at his steel mill in Homestead, Pennsylvania, sparking a bloody gun battle that left at least 10 dead and dozens seriously wounded.

Carnegie was getting other men to do the work.

We won’t get out of the Second Gilded Age the way we got out of the first. More at www.vox.com/first-person/2019/4/1/18286084/gilded-age-income-inequalit
y-robber-baron


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, April 1, 2019 9:40 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Financier Jay Gould boasted that he could “hire one-half the working class to shoot the other half to death.”



I'd like to think that as a country we're not there yet.

But I see this as a plausible future if we keep going down the path that we are.

Just one of the many reasons I opted out of all of it.

Made my money. Did right with it. Wanting for nothing. Needing very little.


If we ever got to a point where somebody could pay me to attack somebody else for money, we've already descended into madness anyhow.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, April 1, 2019 9:59 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If we ever got to a point where somebody could pay me to attack somebody else for money, we've already descended into madness anyhow.

Perhaps you have not heard of the US Army? The National Guard? SWAT? Private security firms? Mercenaries? It is not the upper 1% of Americans that are employed in those jobs. (Although the 1% can call for a killing when they feel it necessary to protect their property.)

Russia Ordered a Killing That Made No Sense. Then the Assassin Started Talking.
www.nytimes.com/2019/03/31/world/europe/russian-assassinations-putin-u
kraine.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, April 1, 2019 10:05 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Starting to look like they will sekseed in sweeping it all under the rug.

America wuz suppozed to be a nation uv lawz but that idea never really worked out.

Us pee onz are subject to The Law, but if youre rich andor well connected, therez not much you cant get away with. Trump and hiz gang hav been getting away with major stuff for decadez. Treazon iz just their latest & greatest.



Not over JO. Wait for it.

tick tock

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Monday, April 1, 2019 10:21 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If we ever got to a point where somebody could pay me to attack somebody else for money, we've already descended into madness anyhow.

Perhaps you have not heard of the US Army? The National Guard? SWAT? Private security firms? Mercenaries? It is not the upper 1% of Americans that are employed in those jobs. (Although the 1% can call for a killing when they feel it necessary to protect their property.)

Russia Ordered a Killing That Made No Sense. Then the Assassin Started Talking.
www.nytimes.com/2019/03/31/world/europe/russian-assassinations-putin-u
kraine.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



That's apples to oranges.

Give a big enough of an illusion of a threat and you'll have tons of people signing up for war without money even being a factor, just like we saw after September 11th.

I'm talking about getting people to do it to their own countrymen, just for money.

We're not there yet. I hope I never live to see that day.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, April 1, 2019 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

We're not there yet. I hope I never live to see that day.

The Haves have no reason to kill the Have-nots as long as they obediently keep handing over their money, their votes and their control of their lives to the Haves. But if a Have-not rudely resists, watch the Haves instantly call a security officer armed with a gun. Try being rude to Trump and you'll see that dynamic in action.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, April 1, 2019 12:19 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

We're not there yet. I hope I never live to see that day.

The Haves have no reason to kill the Have-nots as long as they obediently keep handing over their money, their votes and their control of their lives to the Haves. But if a Have-not rudely resists, watch the Haves instantly call a security officer armed with a gun. Try being rude to Trump and you'll see that dynamic in action.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Well... again... apples to oranges.

I'm sure Trump could. Hillary had a lot of people suicided.

That's not what we're talking about here. The original quote was about half of the people killing the other half for money.

Like I said. We're not there yet.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, April 13, 2019 10:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

We're not there yet. I hope I never live to see that day.

The Haves have no reason to kill the Have-nots as long as they obediently keep handing over their money, their votes and their control of their lives to the Haves. But if a Have-not rudely resists, watch the Haves instantly call a security officer armed with a gun. Try being rude to Trump and you'll see that dynamic in action.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Hillary had a lot of people suicided.




As I've said again and again second, the dummy is just a sick troll. He really believes the Clintons kill people. Wack job...

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Saturday, April 13, 2019 11:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Hillary had a lot of people suicided.



As I've said again and again second, the dummy is just a sick troll. He really believes the Clintons kill people. Wack job..

I saw the article that describes what goes on inside some American skulls:

"Even Conspiracy Theories Have Gotten Dumber"

Maybe Americans are obsessed with conspiracy theories because our nation itself was forged in one. In the turbulent run-up to and aftermath of the Declaration of Independence, the word on the streets — and in the pamphlets — of the colonies was not that the Crown had instituted bad or unfair policies, but rather that everything was part of a master plan to enslave the States, full stop.

“Historians have uncovered nearly one hundred resolutions urging independence issued throughout 1776 by states and counties and towns, artisan and militia associations, and the provincial congresses of nine colonies,” write Muirhead and Rosenblum in A Lot of People Are Saying, a new book from Princeton University Press. “The tone, language, and form are consistent. In each, a narrative of self-defense against enslavement is built from fragmentary evidence. Each lists ‘abuses and usurpations’ adding up to a tyrannical plot.”

This conspiracy and the many, many others that have washed over Americans in the intervening centuries conform to a similar formula: Even when the underlying claims are false or verifiably nuts, the evidence for the conspiracies themselves is generally presented in a somewhat academic style, as facts supporting a thesis.

More at http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/04/the-new-conspiracism-is-conspir
acy-theory-without-theory.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, April 13, 2019 11:49 PM

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Catching up here. The big time suk uv being a working chump haz kept me away.

Thanks 2nd. Useful info az usual.


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Saturday, April 13, 2019 11:51 PM

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Originally posted by THG:

Not over JO. Wait for it.

tick tock

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If Muellerz reputation iz worth anything, it coud be he gave Barr a rope to hang himself with.

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Friday, April 19, 2019 6:31 AM

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https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

I downloaded it, but I think its likely an unredacted version will bekum available eventually.

I hav my alarm set on an a.m. radio station - The Answer. Rite Wing propaganda. On Wenzday afternoon I wuz woken up by a gy caracterizing the investigation az "...2-1/2 yirz uv tin foil hat conspirasy theory wackoz..." in a loud authoritativ voise.

I suppoze it wuz vased on Bill Barr'z attempts to set the perspectiv, but I wunder if he will bother to read the report himself.

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Friday, April 19, 2019 8:08 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Hillary had a lot of people suicided.



As I've said again and again second, the dummy is just a sick troll. He really believes the Clintons kill people. Wack job..

I saw the article that describes what goes on inside some American skulls:

"Even Conspiracy Theories Have Gotten Dumber"

Maybe Americans are obsessed with conspiracy theories because our nation itself was forged in one. In the turbulent run-up to and aftermath of the Declaration of Independence, the word on the streets — and in the pamphlets — of the colonies was not that the Crown had instituted bad or unfair policies, but rather that everything was part of a master plan to enslave the States, full stop.

“Historians have uncovered nearly one hundred resolutions urging independence issued throughout 1776 by states and counties and towns, artisan and militia associations, and the provincial congresses of nine colonies,” write Muirhead and Rosenblum in A Lot of People Are Saying, a new book from Princeton University Press. “The tone, language, and form are consistent. In each, a narrative of self-defense against enslavement is built from fragmentary evidence. Each lists ‘abuses and usurpations’ adding up to a tyrannical plot.”

This conspiracy and the many, many others that have washed over Americans in the intervening centuries conform to a similar formula: Even when the underlying claims are false or verifiably nuts, the evidence for the conspiracies themselves is generally presented in a somewhat academic style, as facts supporting a thesis.

More at http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/04/the-new-conspiracism-is-conspir
acy-theory-without-theory.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Been watching a lot of nutters cry about a huge conspiracy theory for 2 1/2 years now.

How's that going, BTW?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, April 19, 2019 8:33 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Been watching a lot of nutters cry about a huge conspiracy theory for 2 1/2 years now.

How's that going, BTW?

The report from special counsel Robert Mueller III lays out in alarming detail abundant evidence against President Donald Trump, finding 10 "episodes" of potential obstruction of justice but ultimately concluding it was not Mueller's role to determine whether the commander in chief broke the law.

Repeatedly, it appears Trump may have been saved from more serious legal jeopardy because his own staffers refused to carry out orders they thought were problematic or potentially illegal.

The special counsel's report on possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russians to interfere in the 2016 election is extremely detailed with only modest redactions - painting a starkly different picture for Trump than Attorney General William Barr has offered, and revealing new details about interactions between Russians and Trump associates.

Mueller made it clear: Russia wanted to help the Trump campaign, and the Trump campaign was willing to take it.

Mueller's report suggests his obstruction of justice investigation was heavily informed by an opinion from the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) that says a sitting president cannot be indicted - a conclusion Mueller's team accepted.

That decision, though, seemed to leave investigators in a strange spot. Mueller's team wrote that they "determined not to apply an approach that could potentially result in a judgment that the President committed crimes." They seemed to shy from producing even an internal document that alleged the president had done something wrong - deciding, essentially, that they wouldn't decide.

More at "Mueller report lays out obstruction evidence against the president"
www.houstonchronicle.com/news/article/Attorney-general-to-provide-over
view-of-Mueller-13777039.php


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, April 19, 2019 8:57 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Been watching a lot of nutters cry about a huge conspiracy theory for 2 1/2 years now.

How's that going, BTW?

The report from special counsel Robert Mueller III lays out in alarming detail abundant evidence against President Donald Trump, finding 10 "episodes" of potential obstruction of justice but ultimately concluding it was not Mueller's role to determine whether the commander in chief broke the law.

Repeatedly, it appears Trump may have been saved from more serious legal jeopardy because his own staffers refused to carry out orders they thought were problematic or potentially illegal.

The special counsel's report on possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russians to interfere in the 2016 election is extremely detailed with only modest redactions - painting a starkly different picture for Trump than Attorney General William Barr has offered, and revealing new details about interactions between Russians and Trump associates.

Mueller made it clear: Russia wanted to help the Trump campaign, and the Trump campaign was willing to take it.

Mueller's report suggests his obstruction of justice investigation was heavily informed by an opinion from the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) that says a sitting president cannot be indicted - a conclusion Mueller's team accepted.

That decision, though, seemed to leave investigators in a strange spot. Mueller's team wrote that they "determined not to apply an approach that could potentially result in a judgment that the President committed crimes." They seemed to shy from producing even an internal document that alleged the president had done something wrong - deciding, essentially, that they wouldn't decide.

More at "Mueller report lays out obstruction evidence against the president"
www.houstonchronicle.com/news/article/Attorney-general-to-provide-over
view-of-Mueller-13777039.php


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Ah... so nothing then.

Got it.


Well... It looks like you've got your next 2 to 6 years planned out.

I'll leave you to it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, April 19, 2019 9:11 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Ah... so nothing then.

Got it.

Well... It looks like you've got your next 2 to 6 years planned out.

I'll leave you to it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, this attitude of yours is why you have been swindled out of your life -- people you trusted (girlfriends, jobs, Trump, whoever) give you signs and indications that they will eventually betray you, but you don't believe what is before your eyes because you still trust them to not sneak behind you and stab you in the back. You really need to update the heuristics and rules you are using to determine who to trust.

Five key takeaways from the Mueller report

1. Russia’s attempts to help Trump may have started in 2014

Russian-government connected troll farm know as the Internet Research Agency formed a special US department in the spring of 2014, in order to influence public opinion through social media, the report states (p. 19)

What this department did, exactly, and who it talked to among the Trump campaign remains a mystery. Nearly all of the rest of that section is redacted from the report, citing “Harm to Ongoing Matter.” The “ongoing matter” is likely the ongoing investigation into Trump advisor Roger Stone’s involvement in Russian meddling. Stone goes on trial in November, and the DOJ had said it would redact information related to his case.

2. Team Trump knew Russians were working to support him

The investigation found that the Trump campaign expected it would benefit from Russia’s efforts:

More at https://qz.com/1598975/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, April 19, 2019 10:31 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Ah... so nothing then.

Got it.

Well... It looks like you've got your next 2 to 6 years planned out.

I'll leave you to it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, this attitude of yours is why you have been swindled out of your life -- people you trusted (girlfriends, jobs, Trump, whoever) give you signs and indications that they will eventually betray you, but you don't believe what is before your eyes because you still trust them to not sneak behind you and stab you in the back. You really need to update the heuristics and rules you are using to determine who to trust.

Five key takeaways from the Mueller report

1. Russia’s attempts to help Trump may have started in 2014

Russian-government connected troll farm know as the Internet Research Agency formed a special US department in the spring of 2014, in order to influence public opinion through social media, the report states (p. 19)

What this department did, exactly, and who it talked to among the Trump campaign remains a mystery. Nearly all of the rest of that section is redacted from the report, citing “Harm to Ongoing Matter.” The “ongoing matter” is likely the ongoing investigation into Trump advisor Roger Stone’s involvement in Russian meddling. Stone goes on trial in November, and the DOJ had said it would redact information related to his case.

2. Team Trump knew Russians were working to support him

The investigation found that the Trump campaign expected it would benefit from Russia’s efforts:

More at https://qz.com/1598975/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Meh.

You act as if I have a horse in this race.

I don't.

Impeach. Don't impeach. Whatever.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:00 PM

JO753

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I found an early example uv the Fox/GoP/FSB propaganda stratajy:



Coud that be where they got the idea?

Befor Trump, politicianz woud lie IF the conditionz were rite.

1. They coud get away with it at least till the event or interview or wutevr wuz over. The shorter the 'get away with' time period wuz, the less likely they were to lie.

2. The benefit uv the lie woud outway the detriment if or wen it wuz debunked. An important factor iz that the longer they got away with it, the less impact it woud hav - it bekumz stale newz. They woud also hav time to backpedal, downplay, make contradictory statements.

#1 wuz the most important. Totally criticly essential!

Trump pioneered the idea uv dispensing with #1. He duznt care how idiotic it makes him look. He boldly belts out liez that hav been debunked hundredz uv timez for yirz to larj audiensez on national TV, rite to the fasez uv top newz ankorz hoo no he'z lying.

AND ITS WORKING, so now the GoPs are doing it regularly.


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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:33 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Trump ... duznt care how idiotic it makes him look. He boldly belts out liez that hav been debunked hundredz uv timez for yirz to larj audiensez on national TV, rite to the fasez uv top newz ankorz hoo no he'z lying.

AND ITS WORKING, so now the GoPs are doing it regularly.

JO, you know the old saying - right? You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

I think you need to take a more critical look at who's trying to fool whom.

Starting from a recent example and working backwards. Trump didn't want to send more aid to Puerto Rico because of what he said was a problem of corruption. The democrats said it was all because Trump was just a mean guy.
Then just recently after hundreds of thousands of Puerto Ricans protested for days, the government resigned because Puerto Ricans were fed up with the long-standing corruption.
Who had the essence of the situation correct?

Trump had often said that we need a wall to control our southern border. (Now, fwiw, most people want controlled borders whether or not they want an actual wall.) Then, after a slow decline in illegal border crossings, a 10-year-record massive wave of would-be border-crossers recently hit the southern border, overwhelming our ability to deal with it.
Who read the situation more right?

Trump and China seem to have entered an uneasy trade-war truce. Trump said he was trying to fight illegal and unfair Chinese trade practices.
But after decades of soto voce whisperings about those practices (such as proven and suspected product dumping on the markets and forced technology transfer), the problem has been 'suddenly' discovered in the media.
Who had a better grasp of the facts?

And then there's the Mueller report. Despite everybody's whinging about how Trump was in cahoots with the Russians, there was no evidence - was there? Who was more right? Trump or 18+ months of media hyperventilation?


I really don't support everything Trump does. I deeply mistrust our intentions, policies, and possible outcomes re Russia, Iran, Syria, and Venezuela - for example. We don't need to be stomping our military into every country we dislike. We don't need to be engaging in brinkmanship with a fully-armed nuclear country. And I think we need to be extreme in our efforts to combat global warming. These I think are 'existential' threats - (by definition) a matter of our very existence.

Even more, while I think Trump may be identifying problems DEMOCRATS want to slide past, I don't always agree with his solutions. Nor do I support his position of making allies of brutal places like Saudi Arabia, or places run by people who look like they've committed war crimes, like Israel.


But people, except Trump's base and the never-Trumpers, don't care about the back-and-forth minutia. Instead, people give credit to Trump for getting things more right than anybody else.


And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?tic tac

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