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Friday, April 20, 2018 9:43 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
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Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Jo, the analogy to Iraq's WMD scare is a good one. There are people here - and I won't embarrass them by naming them - who were paranoid about the thought of Saddam having WMD. During the entire run-up to war, and for years afterwards (and possibly still to this day) these people were convinced that Saddam had WMD, and the thought was plainly traumatic to them.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So, in that case, we had a person who was demonized in the press as being a tyrant, crazy, pathological, violent, and unpredictable Saddam Hussein (Trump). The administration and MSM kept pounding on the topic that Saddam had WMD (Trump colluded with Russia). It didn't seem to matter than one piece of "evidence" after another evaporated ... the yellowcake contract was a forgery, the aluminum tubes were rockets not centrifuge tubes (contacts seem to lead nowhere) ... nor did it seem to make a dent that Saddam's nation was being aggressively investigated by Hans Blix (collusion was being investigated by Mueller) and that while some suggestive items were found (some third-hand contacts with Ukraine were noted) there was nothing of substance found, even after months and months of searching. Nor did it seem to make a difference that EVEN IF Saddam had WMD, he did not have them in sufficient quantities to threaten the USA, nor did he have the means to deliver them to us (existential USA interests were not threatened). No. What these people kept returning to was WHAT IF??? WHAT IF? Saddam was able to build a super-secret facility in the desert, one that he hid so cleverly that it couldn't be detected from space or on the ground? (WHAT IF there is a super=secret channel of communication between Trump and Putin?) WHAT IF? he had managed to ship the weapons to Syria during a sandstorm, so they the convoy couldn't be detected? (WHAT IF Trump was under Putin's control?) WHAT IF? Saddam could deliver anthrax to the USA? (WHAT IF Putin used Trump to destroy the USA?) They created such a welter of WHAT IFs? that it was all they could see; it went completely out of perspective and blotted out every other consideration. So here's the problem with Iraq's WMD hysteria (Russian collusion hysteria) and why it's so difficult to shake: You can't prove a negative. It's logically impossible. Just as Saddam could never prove that he DIDN'T have WMD, Trump can never prove that he DIDN'T collude with Russia. In order to do that, the investigator would have to poke into every possible scenario, and even then, those who are inclined to be fearful will dream up another WHAT IF?? And BTW, this shows that there is no lie so outrageous that our government (deep state) and press (corporations) wouldn't promote it, and no lie so ridiculous that some people won' fall for it. So here's what I suggest, in order to prevent people from going off the deep end: You must first decide what our existential interests are. THEN, if you see them threatened in a real way ... and not as a result of some imaginary set if WHAT IFS ... you put the pedal to the metal Ask yourself: Short of somehow "making" Trump push The Button, how could Putin destroy the USA thru Trump? And - How does a better relationship with Russia threaten us? Oh, it doesn't. All of our problems are self-created. We made them, we can fix them. Let's work on that.
Friday, April 20, 2018 11:57 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote: Jo, the analogy to Iraq's WMD scare is a good one. There are people here - and I won't embarrass them by naming them - who were paranoid about the thought of Saddam having WMD. During the entire run-up to war, and for years afterwards (and possibly still to this day) these people were convinced that Saddam had WMD, and the thought was plainly traumatic to them. - SIGNY New Signym lying just like the old Signym. Go ahead - if you can't name "these people" it's cause you're lying and if you do come up with some names they will tell you you're lying. Come on, prove me wrong.- GSTRING
Quote:I don't know what KPO thought he was doing starting that attack thread on Jongsstraw (couldn't even be bothered to spell the man's handle correctly). And yes, it was a (passive aggressive, to be sure) attack thread. You start a thread where you invite a bunch of people who've made their contempt for Jongsstraw abundantly clear to speculate on what happened to make him so impolite. Gee, what could it be??? How do y'all miss that the thread title answers its own question? It really disgusts me sometimes the way the lefties hereabout claim the moral high ground in one breath and then endlessly demean and objectify the right-leaning posters with whom they share this board in the next.
Quote:So, in that case, we had a person who was demonized in the press as being a tyrant, crazy, pathological, violent, and unpredictable Saddam Hussein (Trump). The administration and MSM kept pounding on the topic that Saddam had WMD (Trump colluded with Russia). It didn't seem to matter than one piece of "evidence" after another evaporated ... the yellowcake contract was a forgery, the aluminum tubes were rockets not centrifuge tubes (contacts seem to lead nowhere) ... nor did it seem to make a dent that Saddam's nation was being aggressively investigated by Hans Blix (collusion was being investigated by Mueller) and that while some suggestive items were found (some third-hand contacts with Ukraine were noted) there was nothing of substance found, even after months and months of searching. Nor did it seem to make a difference that EVEN IF Saddam had WMD, he did not have them in sufficient quantities to threaten the USA, nor did he have the means to deliver them to us (existential USA interests were not threatened). No. What these people kept returning to was WHAT IF??? WHAT IF? Saddam was able to build a super-secret facility in the desert, one that he hid so cleverly that it couldn't be detected from space or on the ground? (WHAT IF there is a super=secret channel of communication between Trump and Putin?) WHAT IF? he had managed to ship the weapons to Syria during a sandstorm, so they the convoy couldn't be detected? (WHAT IF Trump was under Putin's control?) WHAT IF? Saddam could deliver anthrax to the USA? (WHAT IF Putin used Trump to destroy the USA?) They created such a welter of WHAT IFs? that it was all they could see; it went completely out of perspective and blotted out every other consideration. So here's the problem with Iraq's WMD hysteria (Russian collusion hysteria) and why it's so difficult to shake: You can't prove a negative. It's logically impossible. Just as Saddam could never prove that he DIDN'T have WMD, Trump can never prove that he DIDN'T collude with Russia. In order to do that, the investigator would have to poke into every possible scenario, and even then, those who are inclined to be fearful will dream up another WHAT IF?? And BTW, this shows that there is no lie so outrageous that our government (deep state) and press (corporations) wouldn't promote it, and no lie so ridiculous that some people won' fall for it. So here's what I suggest, in order to prevent people from going off the deep end: You must first decide what our existential interests are. THEN, if you see them threatened in a real way ... and not as a result of some imaginary set if WHAT IFS ... you put the pedal to the metal Ask yourself: Short of somehow "making" Trump push The Button, how could Putin destroy the USA thru Trump? And - How does a better relationship with Russia threaten us? Oh, it doesn't. All of our problems are self-created. We made them, we can fix them. Let's work on that. - SIGNY So much typing without any logical thought - just, type type type type type...- GSTRING
Quote: Go back to one of your original falsehoods, "What's wrong with better relations with Russia???" Gosh, that seems like such an innocent question! Who could object? Except that... first: define "better" and then define better for whom? cuz better for TrumpPutin is rarely better for the majority of people living in Russia or the US. - GSTRING
Quote:Don't worry SIGGY, I know you're just having misdirection fun times - go for it.- GSTRING
Saturday, April 21, 2018 6:35 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: There are people here - and I won't embarrass them by naming them -
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: "Well, the people that I'm referring to, they know who they are. TRUMP And all of the posts and discussions from that time are preserved on this board thru the miracle of modern technology. If you really wanted to know the truth (which you don't) you'd go scrolling thru those posts."
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Also, and interesting take on KRAPO by HKCavalier What's the deal with KPO? http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=55161
Saturday, April 21, 2018 10:55 AM
Quote:There are people here - and I won't embarrass them by naming them -- SIGNY You are without question the most dishonest person ever to post on this board. You really are just like Trump. You say there "are people here" and then link back to threads from 2004. What people could you be talking about that are here? - GSTRING
Quote: You say you'll be breaking a trust or embarrassing them if you name them - more lies.
Quote:"Well, the people that I'm referring to, they know who they are. And all of the posts and discussions from that time are preserved on this board thru the miracle of modern technology. If you really wanted to know the truth (which you don't) you'd go scrolling thru those posts."- SIGNY I scrolled through them - nothing there in terms of "people here believing WMD" so more lies and SIGGY deception. - GSTRING
Quote:Consequences of a President who can't spell http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=6308 UN Inspectors Told To Leave Iraq Immediately http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=1701 Saddam Hussein was NOT a threat http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=7397 The Battle for Iraq - Ethnic Cleansing http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=7933&p=1 http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=7933&p=4 The Secret Casualties of Iraq’s Abandoned Chemical Weapons http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58710&mid=986415 Also, and interesting take on KRAPO by HKCavalier What's the deal with KPO? http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=55161
Quote: Funny - did you actually read that one?
Quote: I could tell you who looks the worst in that thread but I don't want to embarrass Kiki (oops). As expected, KPO presents his "case" well, logically. HK was always into lecturing others. Talk about bombast. And you and Kiki hatin' on your new best Buddy, AU. Funny, innit? Like I always say: what happened to you? - GSTRING
Quote:I swear on Stalin's tomb... that some day... I'll catch you telling the truth.
Sunday, April 22, 2018 8:26 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: There are still some people here from that time.They post infrequently. I'm not going to point them out by name, but let's just say that you knowledge of the "people here" is non-existent. And of course, based on that non-existent knowledge, you accuse me of lying.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I'm consistent on ISSUES, NOT PEOPLE. I don't divide the world into "my tribe" and "your tribe" like you do. I don't decide that one interpretation is "right" because it came from "my tribe" and "wrong" because it came from some place else ... like you do.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: And, it was all based on a blizzard of deliberate government lies, insinuations, carefully curated "intelligence", a BRITISH DOSSIER WHICH PROMISED A "SLAM DUNK" ON WMD, and accusations without proof, pushed by EVERY top person in the Bush admin. Everyone who "believed" was misled. DON'T BE ONE OF THOSE BELIEVERS. Push the "pause" button on your emotions and your belief.
Sunday, April 22, 2018 9:02 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Before the invasion of Iraq, there were people here who were clearly rattled by the thought of Saddam having WMD. Despite little evidence pointing in that direction thanks to Hans Blix scouring Iraq, evidence that SOME of the evidence was deliberately forged, and no practical means for Saddam to deliver his WMD to the USA, these people were completely mesmerized by a series of (increasingly improbable) WHAT IFs? until they were so traumatized by the vision of WMD in the hands of a madman they could think of nothing else. Nothing I or anyone else could say would persuade them to climb down from the ceiling. And, it was all based on a blizzard of deliberate government lies, insinuations, carefully curated "intelligence", a BRITISH DOSSIER WHICH PROMISED A "SLAM DUNK" ON WMD, and accusations without proof, pushed by EVERY top person in the Bush admin. Everyone who "believed" was misled. DON'T BE ONE OF THOSE BELIEVERS. Push the "pause" button on your emotions and your belief.
Quote:Thomas McInerney, a retired three-star general, said at the Senate hearings this past summer, "Our longer-term objectives will be to bring a democratic government to Iraq ... that will influence the region significantly." At a Pentagon briefing a few days later Rumsfeld asked rhetorically, "Wouldn't it be a wonderful thing if Iraq were similar to Afghanistan—if a bad regime was thrown out, people were liberated, food could come in, borders could be opened, repression could stop, prisons could be opened? I mean, it would be fabulous." The transforming vision is not, to put it mildly, the consensus among those with long experience in the Middle East. "It is so divorced from any historical context, just so far out of court, that it is laughable," Chris Sanders told me. "There isn't a society in Iraq to turn into a democracy. That doesn't mean you can't set up institutions and put stooges in them. But it would make about as much sense as the South Vietnamese experiment did."
Sunday, April 22, 2018 9:18 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Sunday, April 22, 2018 9:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I'd be more inclined to agree with Second's take on Republican politicians if Second were to acknowledge that most Democratic politicians are just as bad. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, April 22, 2018 10:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I'd be more inclined to agree with Second's take on Republican politicians if Second were to acknowledge that most Democratic politicians are just as bad. Do Right, Be Right. :)I hear that same sentiment from my sisters, the Jehovah's Witnesses. The religion teaches that all governments are evil and will be brought down and utterly destroyed during Armageddon, in which the wicked politicians will finally face Judgment Day. I am not a member of my sisters' religion, but I am a believer in Judgment Day - I bring my unholy wrath down on those Republican motherfuckers seven days a week.
Sunday, April 22, 2018 10:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: lol Rock on with your bad self. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, April 22, 2018 10:53 AM
Sunday, April 22, 2018 11:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Did SECOND post something? I don't know because I scrolled past its constant spewing of hate and bile. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
Sunday, April 22, 2018 11:14 AM
Quote:There are still some people here from that time.They post infrequently. I'm not going to point them out by name, but let's just say that you knowledge of the "people here" is non-existent. And of course, based on that non-existent knowledge, you accuse me of lying. - SIGNY As always, just the opposite is true. You're the one that constantly misattributes people and things. - GSTRING
Quote:And now you're going to protect these forum ghosts, who you say actually already confessed their fear of WMD in public, by not naming them even though you say they self identified. You're so full of sh*t it's embarrassing. - GSTRING
Quote:I'm consistent on ISSUES, NOT PEOPLE. I don't divide the world into "my tribe" and "your tribe" like you do. I don't decide that one interpretation is "right" because it came from "my tribe" and "wrong" because it came from some place else ... like you do.- GSTRING Riiiiiiggggghhhhhtttttt... I recall all of those times you disagreed with KIKI. Like never. Another BS gas attack from SIGNYM.
Quote:And, it was all based on a blizzard of deliberate government lies, insinuations, carefully curated "intelligence", a BRITISH DOSSIER WHICH PROMISED A "SLAM DUNK" ON WMD, and accusations without proof, pushed by EVERY top person in the Bush admin. Everyone who "believed" was misled. DON'T BE ONE OF THOSE BELIEVERS. Push the "pause" button on your emotions and your belief.- SIGNY *snort* nice try. Not this time. Flynn admitted guilt Gates plead guilty Papadopoulos plead guilty Richard Pinedo plead guilty Alex van der Zwaan plead guilty Most of the dossier has been verified
Quote:If gross illegal activity and a major cover up is overwhelming at the very least, and that's from the mouths of the accused. Collusion? Who ever really cared about that - in and of itself (as we have discussed already), it is not necessarily illegal. And that's why Trump keeps repeating it like some kind of barking dog - it's all he's got to hold onto. He'll be saying it when they wheel him into the Big House.
Quote:The only important thing we don't know yet is how it will play out. Pardons out the wazoo? President Pence? Melania trying out the oligarch singles scene in Moscow?
Sunday, April 22, 2018 1:31 PM
JJ
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Did SECOND post something? I don't know because I scrolled past its constant spewing of hate and bile. Did Signym post for no reason other than to get paid by Putin?
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Did SECOND post something? I don't know because I scrolled past its constant spewing of hate and bile.
Sunday, April 22, 2018 2:13 PM
Sunday, April 22, 2018 2:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:There are still some people here from that time.They post infrequently. I'm not going to point them out by name, but let's just say that you knowledge of the "people here" is non-existent. And of course, based on that non-existent knowledge, you accuse me of lying. - SIGNY As always, just the opposite is true. You're the one that constantly misattributes people and things. - GSTRING PROVE IT. Quote:And now you're going to protect these forum ghosts, who you say actually already confessed their fear of WMD in public, by not naming them even though you say they self identified. You're so full of sh*t it's embarrassing. - GSTRING YOu're too stupid to go back and read their posts and figure it out? NO WONDER you can;t make heads or tails of the news! Quote:I'm consistent on ISSUES, NOT PEOPLE. I don't divide the world into "my tribe" and "your tribe" like you do. I don't decide that one interpretation is "right" because it came from "my tribe" and "wrong" because it came from some place else ... like you do.- GSTRING Riiiiiiggggghhhhhtttttt... I recall all of those times you disagreed with KIKI. Like never. Another BS gas attack from SIGNYM. I happen to agree with KIKI most of the time, just as I happened to agree with FREM and SUCCOSTASH and GINO most of the time. So what? People CAN agree, right? Quote:And, it was all based on a blizzard of deliberate government lies, insinuations, carefully curated "intelligence", a BRITISH DOSSIER WHICH PROMISED A "SLAM DUNK" ON WMD, and accusations without proof, pushed by EVERY top person in the Bush admin. Everyone who "believed" was misled. DON'T BE ONE OF THOSE BELIEVERS. Push the "pause" button on your emotions and your belief.- SIGNY *snort* nice try. Not this time. Flynn admitted guilt Gates plead guilty Papadopoulos plead guilty Richard Pinedo plead guilty Alex van der Zwaan plead guilty Most of the dossier has been verified But none of this has to do with "collusion with Russia", and that IS the thing the DNC was all so worried about, right? Just more goalpost-moving from GSTRING. (Oh, and BTW, there was also plenty of goalpost-moving in the runup to the Iraq War too, so don't think that you've deviating at all from form.) Quote:If gross illegal activity and a major cover up is overwhelming at the very least, and that's from the mouths of the accused. Collusion? Who ever really cared about that - in and of itself (as we have discussed already), it is not necessarily illegal. And that's why Trump keeps repeating it like some kind of barking dog - it's all he's got to hold onto. He'll be saying it when they wheel him into the Big House. WELL!! I'm sure glad that you FINALLY came around to not caring about Russian collusion! So, say it loud and say it proud, GSTRING! You've abandoned all of your buddies here who were focused on exactly that! Quote:The only important thing we don't know yet is how it will play out. Pardons out the wazoo? President Pence? Melania trying out the oligarch singles scene in Moscow? Hopefully, it will play out with Hillary, Bill, McCabe, Debbie, Comey, Lynch, Obama, and the whole corrupt cabal under criminal investigation for undercutting the USA's interests through various illegal acts.
Sunday, April 22, 2018 4:27 PM
Quote:"You're the one that constantly misattributes people and things." - GSTRING "PROVE IT. I agree with Frem most of the time..." - SIGNYM You seriously don't remember the last time Frem posted here??? He so vehemently disagreed with you on Trump and the current admin that you actually became terrified. You said something about "I have a family!" and disappeared for about week - you don't recall.
Monday, April 23, 2018 9:26 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: AND STILL ... no evidence of Trump "colluding" with Russia,
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: ...but PLENTY of evidence of you lying, evading, derailing, and trying to continue deep state-sourced hysteria.
Monday, April 23, 2018 9:42 AM
Quote:AND STILL ... no evidence of Trump "colluding" with Russia, - SIGNY AND YOU STILL don't know what Mueller knows.- GSTRING
Quote:...but PLENTY of evidence of you lying, evading, derailing, and trying to continue deep state-sourced hysteria.- SIGNY Meh - when you and Kiki say this I say "show me just one lie" and that's when you both disappear. So go ahead, if there's "PLENTY of evidence of you (me) lying" let's see it - or will you disappear as always? - GSTRING
Monday, April 23, 2018 10:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:AND STILL ... no evidence of Trump "colluding" with Russia, - SIGNY AND YOU STILL don't know what Mueller knows.- GSTRING And neither do you.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I just demonstrated, in this very thread, that you lied. And to top it off, you lied again, just now. Wow, recursive lying: You've turned it into an art form.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: And, yanno, I know that you're trying to derail this discussion into "all about GSTRING" ...
Tuesday, April 24, 2018 2:00 AM
Quote:I just demonstrated, in this very thread, that you lied. And to top it off, you lied again, just now. Wow, recursive lying: You've turned it into an art form.- SIGNY Really? What was my lie? Point to it specifically. Calling me a liar without a lie is lying btw, so I'm covered.- GSTRING
Quote:"You're the one that constantly misattributes people and things." - Me
Quote:PROVE IT
Quote:And now you're going to protect these forum ghosts, who you say actually already confessed their fear of WMD in public,
Quote: Meh - when you and Kiki say this I say "show me just one lie" and that's when you both disappear.
Quote:And, yanno, I know that you're trying to derail this discussion into "all about GSTRING" ... Wrong again - I'm all about pointing out SIGNYM the Liar. Maybe you should read my posts again?
Tuesday, April 24, 2018 7:05 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:I just demonstrated, in this very thread, that you lied. And to top it off, you lied again, just now. Wow, recursive lying: You've turned it into an art form.- SIGNY Really? What was my lie? Point to it specifically. Calling me a liar without a lie is lying btw, so I'm covered.- GSTRING Well, there's this ... Quote:"You're the one that constantly misattributes people and things." - Me I even challenged you Quote:PROVE IT but you never did.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: And then there was this Quote:And now you're going to protect these forum ghosts, who you say actually already confessed their fear of WMD in public, when all you had to do was read the past posts and see that's exactly what they did, and what I did. And then there was this ...Quote: Meh - when you and Kiki say this I say "show me just one lie" and that's when you both disappear. We BOTH know that Kiki and I ... and you ... have been down this road before, where you got your ass handed to you.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM:And, yanno, I know that you're trying to derail this discussion into "all about GSTRING" ... Wrong again - I'm all about pointing out SIGNYM the Liar. Maybe you should read my posts again? All those lies, followed by even more lies. You're sure building up a lot of bad karma.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Plus, you're boring.
Tuesday, April 24, 2018 10:11 AM
Tuesday, April 24, 2018 10:22 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: PROVE IT? Not gonna. 1) You yourself didn't prove your own contention, so why should I hold myself to a higher standard than you hold yourself, and
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: 2) Been down THAT road more than once with you, where I went back, dragged quotes from past threads proving EXACTLY what I said, and here you are pretending it never happened.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Look, I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but I realize when I'm dealing with a compulsive liar and troll, so not gonna get in the mud and wrestle with you because it's like wrestling with a pig.
Tuesday, April 24, 2018 7:06 PM
Saturday, April 28, 2018 7:21 AM
JO753
rezident owtsidr
Saturday, April 28, 2018 7:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JO753: Nunes'z 'final report' appearz to be the ribbon & bow the TrumPutin Conspiratorz are putting on the story theyv been telling the Republican votorz uv America. Here iz Tucker Carlson unrapping it for the FFF (Faithful Fox Fanz):
Saturday, April 28, 2018 8:03 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by JO753: Nunes'z 'final report' appearz to be the ribbon & bow the TrumPutin Conspiratorz are putting on the story theyv been telling the Republican votorz uv America. Here iz Tucker Carlson unrapping it for the FFF (Faithful Fox Fanz): No Collusion! Just like Trump said! It's like Fux and Trump have been talking about the whole thing! This whole period has only underscored how important it is to have a free and unbiased press. This has been a living civics lesson in what it's like for Americans to have that tested, seriously tested. I honestly think we'll come out of the Trump disaster even stronger and better as a country. And, btw - I finally cracked who the Deep State is: anyone who doesn't like Trump or has something bad to say about him in public.
Saturday, April 28, 2018 2:05 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Geezus, you are clueless I love to namecall - I did that to show you what a joke your original request was - duh love to troll. No you didn't - I did that I love to lie and it's why I won't do it again. And what did happen was you weaseling out of any contrition with "nuh-uh." It's how I roll See ya! I'll keep pointing out your fictions and falsehoods. I am a pig, squealing in the dirt So, speaking of your falsehoods: "AND STILL ... no evidence of Trump "colluding" with Russia." Lying or just plain wrong? I can't take facts, they make me hurt
Sunday, April 29, 2018 11:27 AM
Sunday, April 29, 2018 8:16 PM
Sunday, April 29, 2018 11:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Any evidence? Something based in the real world meant to be seen by rational minds? Oh, that's right. All you have are speculation and innuendo. Plus OCD. Let's not forget the OCD.
Monday, April 30, 2018 2:13 AM
Monday, April 30, 2018 3:38 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: All you have are speculation and innuendo. Plus OCD. Let's not forget the OCD. BTW - I hope you're not under the mistaken impression I read your posts.
Thursday, May 3, 2018 4:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: All you have are speculation and innuendo. Plus OCD. Let's not forget the OCD. BTW - I hope you're not under the mistaken impression I read your posts. Well the upside is that somewhere in SECOND's endless grotch-fest he completely gave up on pretending to be "for the people"; he now openly despises us and refers to us as "peasants". So at least we've been spared that hypocrisy.
Thursday, May 3, 2018 5:04 PM
Thursday, May 3, 2018 6:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: All you have are speculation and innuendo. Plus OCD. Let's not forget the OCD. BTW - I hope you're not under the mistaken impression I read your posts. Well the upside is that somewhere in SECOND's endless grotch-fest he completely gave up on pretending to be "for the people"; he now openly despises us and refers to us as "peasants". So at least we've been spared that hypocrisy. I'm beginning to think that Trump is bad for his business. It's obvious how much disdain he has for the 99%ers, so it would seem that his only true political motivations would be for his own bottom line. At least, that is, if you actually believe anything he types in here from his Texas Republican mom's basement. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Thursday, May 3, 2018 6:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: I also don't trust politicians or businessmen that don't ever describe in detail how they will reach their goals.
Thursday, May 3, 2018 6:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: I also don't trust politicians or businessmen that don't ever describe in detail how they will reach their goals. Oh good. That means you don't trust any politicians. At least we have some common ground. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Thursday, May 3, 2018 7:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: I also don't trust politicians or businessmen that don't ever describe in detail how they will reach their goals. Oh good. That means you don't trust any politicians. At least we have some common ground. Do Right, Be Right. :)Wrong, 6ix. I can tell there is a world of difference between the endless bullshitting of Trump plus the Republican Congressmen versus ordinary Democratic Congressmen trying to sincerely explain without bullshitting. People who aren't interested in details conclude that every politician lies, which is a wrong-headed way to understand the difference between the two parties. In business and politics, people who don't care about details get screwed. Most people are screwed on all deals because they won't read through the contracts before signing and instead take the saleman's word. They take the politician's word before voting, too, and they are bitter when his word is no good. There are ways to decide that don't require you to believe whatever Trump says, but guys like Trump who say "believe me" and "no collusion" all day long are depending on you to not check what they are saying.
Thursday, May 3, 2018 8:06 PM
Quote:Politicians who are cavalier about "Collateral Damage" aren't to be trusted.-
Thursday, May 10, 2018 2:11 PM
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Tuesday, May 22, 2018 11:43 AM
Quote: OMG x 1,000,000,000,000! I love how he
Quote: misinterprets on purpose the other "Fake News" outlets' headlines.
Tuesday, May 22, 2018 8:06 PM
Quote: OMG x 1,000,000,000,000! I love how he- ... Hannity? Giuliani? - SIGNY ... misinterprets on purpose the other "Fake News" outlets' headlines.- CC Like what? Can you provide a few examples, bc I don't know what you're referring to.- SIGNY
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Wednesday, May 23, 2018 12:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: OMG x 1,000,000,000,000! I love how he Hannity? Giuliani?
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: misinterprets on purpose the other "Fake News" outlets' headlines. Like what? Can you provide a few examples, bc I don't know what you're referring to.
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