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Friday, January 20, 2017 6:04 PM

THGRRI


U.S. law enforcement and intelligence agencies are looking at interceptions of both communications and financial transactions as part of “a broad investigation into possible links between Russian officials and associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump,” according to a new report by the New York Times.

Citing former and current senior American officials, the Times said that Mr. Trump’s former campaign chairman Paul Manafort is one of the Trump associates included in the investigation. Prior to his work with Mr. Trump, Manafort was an advisor to Viktor Yanukovych, a pro-Russian Ukrainian politician.

Former Trump foreign policy advisor Carter Page is also a subject of the investigation, according to the report, as is longtime Republican strategist and longtime Trump advisor Roger Stone. Like Manafort, Stone was fired from the Trump campaign.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-law-enforcement-looking-into-russia
n-communications
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Friday, January 20, 2017 6:24 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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The CIA already knows the answer.

If there were true links to Russia, he wouldn't have been inaugurated today.

Nothing will come of this.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, January 20, 2017 6:36 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The CIA already knows the answer.

If there were true links to Russia, he wouldn't have been inaugurated today.

Nothing will come of this.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



I'm sure you have a direct line to the CIA. I'll admit that from my couch I can't tell. I think I'll wait and see.

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Friday, January 20, 2017 7:36 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The CIA already knows the answer.

If there were true links to Russia, he wouldn't have been inaugurated today.

Nothing will come of this.

Richard Nixon was a traitor. Yet no one stopped his inauguration. Watergate followed from the treason.

https://consortiumnews.com/2014/08/09/the-heinous-crime-behind-waterga
te
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Before Nixon’s election, President Johnson said in a taped conversation, “I think it would shock America if a principal candidate was playing with a source like this on a matter of this importance. I don’t want to do that [go public]. They ought to know that we know what they’re doing. I know who they’re talking to. I know what they’re saying.”

Though Johnson personally spoke with Nixon about the Chennault issue, Nixon simply denied doing anything wrong and the peace stalemate continued through the final days of the campaign. On the day before the election, Johnson had one last chance to expose Nixon’s “treason” when the White House was asked by the Christian Science Monitor to respond to a Saigon-datelined article drafted by correspondent Beverly Deepe who had discovered the Republican obstruction from her South Vietnamese sources.

Johnson consulted with Rostow, Secretary of State Dean Rusk and Defense Secretary Clark Clifford in a Nov. 4 conference call. Those three pillars of the Washington Establishment were unanimous in advising Johnson against going public, mostly out of fear that the scandalous information might reflect badly on the U.S. government.

“Some elements of the story are so shocking in their nature that I’m wondering whether it would be good for the country to disclose the story and then possibly have a certain individual [Nixon] elected,” Clifford said. “It could cast his whole administration under such doubt that I think it would be inimical to our country’s interests.”

Johnson concurred with their judgment. An administration spokesman refused to confirm or deny the story, leading the Christian Science Monitor’s editors to spike Deepe’s scoop.

www.commondreams.org/views/2014/08/12/george-will-confirms-nixons-viet
nam-treason

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Friday, January 20, 2017 8:33 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Hey... Maybe I'm wrong.

I just think that the CIA knows pretty much whatever the CIA wants to know. It's my belief that either they have nothing on Trump, or they do and they want Trump in office anyhow.

Meanwhile, this is a great talking point for years to come. Something to keep the proletariat fighting with each other while they go back to doing whatever they want to do when nobody is watching them. Of course the lefties are going to bite. They have tried everything else they could think of to stop this presidency and nothing worked. Now they're grasping at whatever straws they can find.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, January 20, 2017 9:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hey... Maybe I'm wrong.

Of course the lefties are going to bite. They have tried everything else they could think of to stop this presidency and nothing worked.

Obama could have stopped the FBI Director Comey from three times in a row accusing Hillary of being a criminal without proof enough to indict her, but Obama did not. Obama knew what was coming, yet he did not order Comey to stay out of the election.

A trio of researchers takes a broad look at the evidence that FBI Director James Comey affected the election. Their conclusion:
Quote:

The evidence is clear, and consistent, regarding the Comey effect. The timing of the shift both at the state and national levels lines up very neatly with the publication of the letter, as does the predominance of the story in the media coverage from the final week of the campaign. With an unusually large number of undecided voters late in the campaign, the letter hugely increased the salience of what was the defining critique of Clinton during the campaign at its most critical moment.
www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/1/11/14215930/comey-email-election-clint
on-campaign


If it weren't for Obama refusing to kick Comey’s ass to the moon when Obama first heard from the Dept of Justice that Comey wrote a letter calling Hillary a criminal under investigation and was about to make the letter public knowledge, Hillary Clinton would have won the popular vote by about 6 points and the Electoral College by 70 or more.

Mr. No Drama Obama let Comey do as he pleased. The FBI is not separate from the Executive branch, unlike the Supreme Court and Congress. Obama had the authority to stop Comey. He just didn't have the guts to do it. It is very similar to President Johnson not having the guts to destroy candidate Nixon's reputation just before the election. Nixon got 43.4% of the vote to Humphrey's 42.7%. That was even closer than Trump vs Hillary. If President Johnson had the courage to reveal Nixon's lies before the election, he would have saved the USA a great deal of trouble.

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Friday, January 20, 2017 10:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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I don't disagree with you about the results of the Comey back and forth. That's all very likely true.

He did have enough evidence to indite Hillary though. They just chose not to because they said there was no evidence she willingly and or knowingly was breaking the law. He essentially said before the General election that Hillary was guilty, but they weren't going to indite her. This is a double standard that very few people in the world live by. Comey even said in the same address that if anybody else does anything like it they will be punished and letting Hillary slide wasn't a free pass for everyone to break the law.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, January 21, 2017 1:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't disagree with you about the results of the Comey back and forth. That's all very likely true.

He did have enough evidence to indite Hillary though. They just chose not to because they said there was no evidence she willingly and or knowingly was breaking the law. He essentially said before the General election that Hillary was guilty, but they weren't going to indite her. This is a double standard that very few people in the world live by. Comey even said in the same address that if anybody else does anything like it they will be punished and letting Hillary slide wasn't a free pass for everyone to break the law.

Just to clue you, 6ixStringJack, but Comey's position at the FBI does not give him any power to grant clemency or a "free pass" as you called it to Hillary for crimes she committed. Or to prosecute her. But Republican Comey can be the next J Edgar Hoover threatening a Democratic enemy -- Martin Luther King Jr.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Edgar_Hoover#COINTELPRO_and_the_1950s

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, January 21, 2017 9:53 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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U.S. law enforcement and intelligence agencies are looking at interceptions of both communications and financial transactions as part of “a broad investigation into possible links between Russian officials and associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump,” according to a new report by the New York Times.
Largest owner of the NYT is MEXICAN multi-billionaire Carlos "Slim" Helu.

Quote:

Trump’s Next Target: the Mexican Billionaire Who’s the Top New York Times Shareholder http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/10/trump-to-target-mexican-b
illionaire-and-part-nyt-owner.html



Not that there's any bias from the NYT!!

Quote:

It begins = THUGR
What is "it"? Your insanity? That's been going on for a long time! The war of the CIA/globalists against Trump? THAT'S been going on for a long time, too!




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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake


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Saturday, January 21, 2017 10:56 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

U.S. law enforcement and intelligence agencies are looking at interceptions of both communications and financial transactions as part of “a broad investigation into possible links between Russian officials and associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump,” according to a new report by the New York Times.
Largest owner of the NYT is MEXICAN multi-billionaire Carlos "Slim" Helu.

Quote:

Trump’s Next Target: the Mexican Billionaire Who’s the Top New York Times Shareholder http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/10/trump-to-target-mexican-b
illionaire-and-part-nyt-owner.html



Not that there's any bias from the NYT!!

Quote:

It begins = THUGR
What is "it"? Your insanity? That's been going on for a long time! The war of the CIA/globalists against Trump? THAT'S been going on for a long time, too!




You are marching yourself into the untenable position of defending Trump. But that's nothing new. That's what trolls do.

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Saturday, January 21, 2017 12:18 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


You have started out in the untenable position of defending the (treasonous) deep state. But that's nothing new for you.

When REAL news comes out, be sure to let us know.



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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake


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Saturday, January 21, 2017 4:56 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Just to clue you, 6ixStringJack, but Comey's position at the FBI does not give him any power to grant clemency or a "free pass" as you called it to Hillary for crimes she committed. Or to prosecute her.



And yet, that is exactly what happened.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, January 21, 2017 9:32 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You have started out in the untenable position of defending the (treasonous) deep state. But that's nothing new for you.

When REAL news comes out, be sure to let us know.




Being a commie I realize you don't see the significance of what Trump did and is still doing. There are few here that would expect you too.

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Sunday, January 22, 2017 6:57 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

the significance of what Trump did and is still doing
What IS that, exactly? And yanno - links WITH EVIDENCE required.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:02 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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We have access to thousands of emails proving what a scumbag the Clintons and the heads of the DNC and quite a few in the MSM are, and they didn't even bother reading them.

Believing without a doubt Trump has ties with Russia without a shred of actual evidence though... no problem.

That makes sense....

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:20 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Sad, but true.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Sunday, January 22, 2017 8:28 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

the significance of what Trump did and is still doing= THUGR
Such as??? BE SPECIFIC.



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Monday, January 23, 2017 12:32 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

the significance of what Trump did and is still doing
What IS that, exactly? And yanno - links WITH EVIDENCE required.




Easy, it's in thread after thread as you are aware. You are posting in all of them. Still, you could go to the first post in this thread and start there.

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Monday, January 23, 2017 9:48 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

links WITH EVIDENCE required
Quote:

it's in thread after thread as you are aware
Honey - the EVIDENCE is missing. Or are you still under the delusion that claims of 'something' are evidence?




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Tuesday, January 24, 2017 2:14 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


My God, you figured it out all by your lonesome.

Yeah, it's just that simple..................RIGHT!!!!


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The CIA already knows the answer.

If there were true links to Russia, he wouldn't have been inaugurated today.

Nothing will come of this.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


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Wednesday, January 25, 2017 2:10 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


What we have here is a failure to communicate!

What we have, straight from the horse's mouth, is an admitted "pussy-grabber"
- "scumbag" yeah, that's about right.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
We have access to thousands of emails proving what a scumbag the Clintons and the heads of the DNC and quite a few in the MSM are, and they didn't even bother reading them.

Believing without a doubt Trump has ties with Russia without a shred of actual evidence though... no problem.

That makes sense....

Do Right, Be Right. :)


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Wednesday, January 25, 2017 2:24 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Grabbin' Pussy is nowhere near the level of depravity as political collusion that would make Nixon proud, 6 visits by Hillary to Pedophile Island, 26 visits to Pedophile Island by her husband, and Treason, but we've all got our priorities in life.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 25, 2017 5:44 PM

BYTEMITE


Frankly I think both sides are terrible, as I've said often, complete with both Trump and Clinton having extremely questionable pasts with women (and maybe children) and generally being massive power hungry abusive creeps. I think there has been manipulation of polling data and other aspects of the political machinery from both sides, though we only got the leaks about the DNC throwing Bernie under the bus.

In any case I'm hoping we can put this bullshit behind us eventually, someone puts some of those dog collar cones on trump's arms so he stops his reality star tweeting bad habits, and we can all focus on the midterms and next elections, because fuck if either side is going to be able to do a whole hell of a lot of positive implementation in the current political climate.

Although I guess it also depends on the question of if anything anyone does in Washington is a good thing, lately it does seem to be trending towards no. So maybe completely clusterbombing of the socio-political system and deadlock might not be bad? That's the most optimistic prognosis I have.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2017 6:37 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Although I guess it also depends on the question of if anything anyone does in Washington is a good thing, lately it does seem to be trending towards no. So maybe completely clusterbombing of the socio-political system and deadlock might not be bad? That's the most optimistic prognosis I have.



I agree totally. I've always said our Government is the least problematic toward its citizens when it's at each others throats and nothing gets done.

If the ONLY thing Trump manages to get done is make good on his promise to rip up a lot of those Executive Orders that Obama and GWB were infamous for, then I'm happy.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, January 26, 2017 3:17 PM

THGRRI


Rep. Tulsi Gabbard Goes to Bat for Syria’s Assad

Looks like Trump may be behind here visit that took place while he was running for office. I am waiting for an update.



http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2017/01/25/rep-tulsi-gabbard-goes-to-bat
-for-syrias-assad
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Saturday, December 16, 2017 10:43 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You have started out in the untenable position of defending the (treasonous) deep state. But that's nothing new for you.

When REAL news comes out, be sure to let us know.




Being a commie I realize you don't see the significance of what Trump did and is still doing. There are few here that would expect you too.

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T

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Saturday, December 16, 2017 4:08 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


... and still no evidence of any real-word collusion between Trump and Putin ...

Hey, who needs reality when you have faith, eh THUGGER?




HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?

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Sunday, December 17, 2017 12:03 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Being a commie ... - THUGR
YOU'RE a commie?

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Sunday, December 17, 2017 7:42 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Being a commie ... - THUGR
YOU'RE a commie?



LOL

Not to be the Grammar Police around here, but yes Sigs... it appears from his quote that it is so.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, December 19, 2017 2:27 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Quote:

If the ONLY thing Trump manages to get done is make good on his promise to rip up a lot of those Executive Orders that Obama and GWB were infamous for, then I'm happy.


Well, you got your wish. HAPPY!?

The Great Un-doer! Trump.....wait a minute now, he's actually got some legislation that might pass into law....The Great Tax (ahem) Reform of 2017.
Actual and real, no links needed he's been boasting about this for weeks now. An honest to goodness law...fuck if I don't believe it until it actually passes, but WAIT...What's this, he's gonna get really RICH! So it ain't so big guy!

Oooops, there goes another rubber tree plant, kerplop!

Plus the added bonus of a $1.5 Trillion in the deficit.

Ooooops, there goes Social Security, Medicaid (which he promised he wouldn't touch)....and Obamacare. 13 Million to lose their health insurance. New York and California are gonna get FUCKED without lubricant.

Granted, it hasn't happened....Yet!

But, give it time.


SGG

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Tuesday, December 19, 2017 2:40 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


It more than begins.....Turns out that the Trump campaign was warned about Russian agents/reps contacting them in August 2016. Hmmmm, and this AFTER they met with Russians, then lying/covering up about it.

So, let's see...the FBI warns them and the Clinton campaign, but they already met with them in June 2016. Now, wouldn't that warning in August 2016 come with a suggestion that "they" contact the FBI should contact occur?
Not only that, the Trump campaign knew, in August 2016, that it was a concern of the FBI, but yet still lied about it in subsequent days following that briefing. THEY KNEW going into 2017 from then. Yet, THEY waited to fire Flynn into February 2017. Plus Sally Yates warning.

This shit just gets better every single day. Oh, I can't wait until that glorious day comes. Fuck! I'm going to celebrate like New Year's Eve. Like it's 1999!


SGG


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
U.S. law enforcement and intelligence agencies are looking at interceptions of both communications and financial transactions as part of “a broad investigation into possible links between Russian officials and associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump,” according to a new report by the New York Times.

Citing former and current senior American officials, the Times said that Mr. Trump’s former campaign chairman Paul Manafort is one of the Trump associates included in the investigation. Prior to his work with Mr. Trump, Manafort was an advisor to Viktor Yanukovych, a pro-Russian Ukrainian politician.

Former Trump foreign policy advisor Carter Page is also a subject of the investigation, according to the report, as is longtime Republican strategist and longtime Trump advisor Roger Stone. Like Manafort, Stone was fired from the Trump campaign.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-law-enforcement-looking-into-russia
n-communications
/



It begins


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Monday, August 6, 2018 11:43 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

The CIA already knows the answer.

If there were true links to Russia, he wouldn't have been inaugurated today.

Nothing will come of this.




Jack said this on Friday, January 20, 2017. He's still playing the ignorant fool on 8/6/2018. Can you see me rolling on the floor laughing?

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Tuesday, August 7, 2018 5:15 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Then there's the Daily Tweet, where Trump throws his "wonderful" son under the bus. This shit just gets better all the time...and he can't complain that it's Fake News because it came from him.

He tweeted that, and I'm paraphrasing, "sure he went to the meeting to pick up dirt on Hillary (perfectly legal), but nothing was ever delivered, so nothing actually happened. Plus I didn't know anything."

Then literally he tells Russia to please find the 30,000 emails. And, if I
understand it correctly, within days the WikiLeaks dump. Folks, you can't
make this shit up. Real life, at least with Trump, is so surreal that
Hollywood couldn't make this shit believable.

Turns out, you can't solicit, accept or buy anything regarding "dirt" from
a foreign source. It's really a No-No. And it's in the Big Paper. Somebody's fucked, but GOOD!

MI:7 - The President Fucks His son


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

The CIA already knows the answer.

If there were true links to Russia, he wouldn't have been inaugurated today.

Nothing will come of this.




Jack said this on Friday, January 20, 2017. He's still playing the ignorant fool on 8/6/2018. Can you see me rolling on the floor laughing?

T



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Tuesday, August 7, 2018 10:34 AM

THG


The Russia Meeting at Trump Tower Was To Discuss Adoption. Then It Wasn’t. How Accounts Have Shifted

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/06/us/politics/trump-tower
-russia-meeting.html


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Friday, September 20, 2019 1:24 PM

THG


T

A mysterious whistleblower complaint about President Trump apparently involves Ukraine. CBS News confirms an official from the intelligence community was so alarmed by the president's recent conversations with Ukraine's newly elected leader, they filed a formal report with the inspector general. CBS News chief congressional correspondent Nancy Cordes reports from Capitol Hill. Former FBI agent and special assistant to James Comey, Josh Campbell, joins CBSN on set to discuss the fallout as well as his new book, "Crossfire Hurricane: Donald Trump's War on the FBI."





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Friday, September 20, 2019 3:06 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Anon

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Saturday, September 21, 2019 2:40 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

One source familiar with the contents of the phone call said that Trump did not raise the issue of American military and intelligence aid that the administration was at the time withholding from Ukraine — indicating that there may not have been an explicit quid pro quo expressed in that conversation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-pressed-ukraini
an-leader-to-investigate-bidens-son-according-to-people-familiar-with-the-matter/2019/09/20/7fa39b20-dbdc-11e9-bfb1-849887369476_story.html



MAY not have been? Sounds like "The cruise missiles that struck Saudi Arabia may have come from Iran"

This is just more bullshit from the deep state, trying to make something out of nothing.

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Saturday, September 21, 2019 12:21 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


And now, for the story behind the story:

JOE BIDEN, WHEN HE WAS VICE PRESIDENT, INSISTED THAT THE CHIEF UKRAINIAN PROSECUTOR WHO WAS INVESTIGATING HIS SON BE FIRED. THE PROSECUTOR WAS INVESTIGATING HUNTER BIDEN FOR RECEIVING $50,000 PER MONTH FROM A UKRAINIAN NAT GAS FIRM, DESPITE HAVING NO EXPERIENCE.

Gee, whooda thunk the VP would abuse his position that way, shoehorning his son into a lucrative position for a Ukrainian nat gas firm by threatening to withold aid, and then having the chief proseutor of Ukraine fired for investigating?

The original scandal has rarely made it to the M$M news, but this "whistleblower" sure managed to bring it bubbling back up again!

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Quote:

Trump Pounces On Biden-Ukraine Scandal As Whistleblower Story Flips On Dems


President Trump and his social media team have seized on allegations that Joe Biden abused his position as Vice President to strongarm Ukraine into firing its top prosecutor - who was leading a wide-ranging investigation into Biden's son Hunter and the natural gas firm that paid him $50,000 per month despite his total lack of experience.

While the Biden-Ukraine story has been simmering for the better part of five years under a firm MSM lid, the scandal has been thrust into the spotlight after the MSM peddled a 'scandalous' whistleblower story in which a "partisan" G-man reported that Trump made promises to a foreign leader that were inappropriate.

Now, we come to find out that the conversation was with Ukraine's new president, Volodymyr Zelensky, about reopening the Biden investigation - and that it did not contain a quid pro quo.

And while Democrats' hopes of finally nailing Trump appear to be melting into their sea of Russiagate tears, Trump is now capitalizing on the turnabout, bigly.

"The Fake News Media and their partner, the Democrat Party, want to stay as far away as possible from the Joe Biden demand that the Ukrainian Government fire a prosecutor who was investigating his son, or they won’t get a very large amount of U.S. money, so they fabricate a story about me and a perfectly fine and routine conversation I had with the new President of the Ukraine," Trump said this in his opening salvo over Twitter Saturday morning.

"Nothing was said that was in any way wrong, but Biden’s demand, on the other hand, was a complete and total disaster. The Fake News knows this but doesn’t want to report!"

Trump then posted a montage beginning with Biden claiming "Not one single credible outlet has given any credibility to his [Trump's] assertion."

Au contraire Biden:

This is the real and only story! pic.twitter.com/4z8eOcm6PA
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 21, 2019

Trump's 2020 campaign account chimed in, providing clips of the MSM investigating the Biden claims, along with a report that former Secretary of State John Kerry's (D) son cut ties with Hunter Biden over Ukraine.

WATCH THE FULL ABC NEWS INVESTIGATION!

“Was Hunter Biden profiting off his dad's work as Vice President, and did Joe Biden allow it?” https://t.co/FC4DwJBVit pic.twitter.com/YEkGynLwmW
— Trump War Room (@TrumpWarRoom) September 21, 2019

"Hunter Biden’s new job at a Ukrainian gas company is a problem" - The Washington Post, 2014https://t.co/DRiaRAJx0x
— Trump War Room (@TrumpWarRoom) September 21, 2019

On Friday, Trump downplayed the whistleblower story, telling reporters at the White House: "I'll tell you this, somebody ought to look into Joe Biden's statement where He talked about billions of dollars that he's not giving to a certain country unless a certain prosecutor is taken off the case. So, somebody ought to look into that and you wouldn't because he's a Democrat. And the fake news doesn't look into things like that, it's a disgrace," warning the press "You've had a very bad week, and this will be better than all of 'em, this is another one. So keep playing it out because you're gonna look really bad when it falls, and I guess I'm about 22 and 0 and I'll keep it that way."

Biden lashes out

On Friday, Biden issued a statement calling on Trump to release a transcript of his July phone call with Zelensky.

"If these reports are true, then ... It means that he [Trump] used the power and resources of the United States to pressure a sovereign nation—a partner that is still under direct assault from Russia—pushing Ukraine to subvert the rule of law in the express hope of extracting a political favor," he said - apparently unaware of the irony that he openly bragged about doing the exact same thing years earlier.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-pounces-biden-ukraine-scanda
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Monday, September 23, 2019 12:47 PM

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T

Moment Shep Smith takes apart Giuliani Trump Ukraine Whistleblower story's


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Monday, September 23, 2019 6:53 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


You are aware that the Ukraine isn't Russia?

Just checking, because thread title.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, September 27, 2019 10:17 AM

THG

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Friday, September 27, 2019 10:21 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Kremlin says it hopes U.S. won't release details of Putin-Trump calls

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/kremlin-says-it-hopes-us-wont-rel
ease-details-of-putin-trump-calls/ar-AAHVPr0?ocid=spartanntp


T





Yeah. So?

I can't imagine any of the shit that you idiots are causing are making any of the world leaders feel comfortable with us right now.

I don't like being on speakerphone without knowing that I'm on speakerphone, and I'm nobody.

These people are talking about important stuff. Not the useless bullshit you poison your mind with everyday.



BTW... there was nothing impeachable in that phone conversation. Zero. Please, impeach.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, September 28, 2019 9:15 AM

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Connecticut newspaper calls on Trump to resign, citing 'damning evidence' from Ukraine call

One of Connecticut's largest newspapers on Friday published an editorial calling on President Trump to resign, citing "damning evidence" that surfaced this week surrounding his interactions with Ukraine.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/connecticut-newspaper-calls-on
-trump-to-resign-citing-damning-evidence-from-ukraine-call/ar-AAHYZ93?ocid=spartanntp


tick tock

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Saturday, September 28, 2019 9:45 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Are you mistaking Russia for Ukraine?

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

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Saturday, September 28, 2019 10:26 AM

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Saturday, September 28, 2019 10:27 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


It would be nice if you could answer the question ABOUT YOUR OWN POST. THIS ONE, in fact:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Connecticut newspaper calls on Trump to resign, citing 'damning evidence' from Ukraine call

I'm wondering where it fits in with your OP Intercepted communications between Russia, Trump (which unsurprisingly turned out to be totally bogus).


So, are you mistaking Russia for Ukraine?

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

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Saturday, September 28, 2019 12:34 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
It would be nice if you could answer the question ABOUT YOUR OWN POST. THIS ONE, in fact:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Connecticut newspaper calls on Trump to resign, citing 'damning evidence' from Ukraine call

I'm wondering where it fits in with your OP Intercepted communications between Russia, Trump (which unsurprisingly turned out to be totally bogus).


So, are you mistaking Russia for Ukraine?

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.





Of course he is. I pointed this out to him the other day.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, September 28, 2019 4:03 PM

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Saturday, September 28, 2019 4:08 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Oh good.

Another call for assassination from "completely sane" lefty activists.

Hope your momma is proud T.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, September 29, 2019 4:55 PM

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