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Grifter Donald Trump Has Been Indicted And Yes Arrested; Four Times Now And Counting. Hey Jack, I Was Right

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Tuesday, August 22, 2023 10:09 PM

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Oops, another Trump employee flips.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2023 10:29 PM

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Trump Employee will testify against Trump
Aug. 22, 2023 7:13PM EDT

A former maintenance worker at Mar-a-Lago, now being eyed as a key witness to an attempt to conceal evidence from the government, retracted his grand jury testimony after switching lawyers, prosecutors in special counsel Jack Smith’s office said in a Tuesday filing.

The unidentified staffer, named only as “Trump Employee 4” in the filing, but suspected to be Yuscil Taveras, who oversaw the club’s security camera system, initially told a grand jury that he hadn’t been privy to any attempt to delete security footage.

But after dumping his lawyer, Stanley Woodward, for another attorney offered up by the federal defender’s office in Washington, Taveras quickly reversed course.

“Immediately after receiving new counsel,” Smith’s office said in the filing, Taveras retracted his prior testimony and “provided information that implicated” Trump and his two alleged co-conspirators “in efforts to delete security camera footage.”

Sources familiar with the matter told ABC News that Taveras’ decision to switch lawyers and cooperate with Smith’s office came after he received a target letter from Smith in June, indicating he knew Taveras had perjured himself during his grand jury testimony, and warning of possible criminal charges.

Under the terms of their agreement, in exchange for his truthful testimony on the obstruction allegations, Smith will not prosecute Taveras for perjury.

More at https://www.thedailybeast.com/jack-smith-reveals-trump-employee-flippe
d-after-ditching-maga-lawyer


I can imagine what Trump says next, "You signed a nondisclosure agreement when I hired you. I will sue you! YOU WILL NEVER WORK AGAIN!" The employee mutters, "Tough shit for you from jail, Fatso. I don't fucking care what happens to you, Mister Tub of Lard."

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Wednesday, August 23, 2023 2:24 AM

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Sure he did.

Oh boy. You got Trump this time.

*yawn*

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Thursday, August 24, 2023 7:51 PM

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Sure he did.

Oh boy. You got Trump this time.

*yawn*






He had to pose for a mug shot.

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Thursday, August 24, 2023 10:02 PM

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Again?

Say it ain't so!




Trump will be fine. He will also be your next President.

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Monday, August 28, 2023 10:39 PM

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tick tock tick tock

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'Like any defendant': Judge says Trump must ‘make the trial date work’






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Monday, August 28, 2023 11:55 PM

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Trump will be fine.

He will also be your next President.



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A major Giuliani development has drawn less attention: An FBI whistleblower filed a statement asserting that Giuliani “may have been compromised” by Russian intelligence while working as a lawyer and adviser to Trump during the 2020 campaign.

That contention is among a host of explosive assertions from Johnathan Buma, an FBI agent who also says that an investigation involving Giuliani’s activities was stymied within the bureau.

In July, Buma sent the Senate Judiciary Committee a 22-page statement full of eye-popping allegations, and the document leaked and was first reported last month by Insider (after a conservative blogger had posted it online). According to Buma’s account, Giuliani was used as an asset by a Ukrainian oligarch tied to Russian intelligence and other Russian operatives for a disinformation operation that aimed to discredit Joe Biden and boost Trump in the 2020 presidential race. Moreover, Buma says he was the target of retaliation within the bureau for digging into this.

Buma’s revelations may only be the start. A source familiar with his work tells Mother Jones that other potential FBI whistleblowers who participated in the investigation involving Giuliani have consulted the same lawyer as Buma and might meet with congressional investigators in coming weeks. That attorney, Scott Horton, declined to comment.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/09/a-new-rudy-scandal-fbi-ag
ent-says-giuliani-was-co-opted-by-russian-intelligence
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A major Giuliani development has drawn less attention: An FBI whistleblower filed a statement asserting that Giuliani “may have been compromised” by Russian intelligence while working as a lawyer and adviser to Trump during the 2020 campaign.



A story made up by Mother Jones because integrity means nothing when The Message is all that matters.

Giuliani fixed NYC and then Democrats broke it worse than it ever was.

I used to side with Democrats when they were against the alphabet agencies. Now you all spend everyday blowing them.

Get fucked.


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Remember when Jeanine Pirro, Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, and Newt Gingrich were losing their minds over Hillary Clinton becoming president while under FBI investigation? Want to compare with what they're saying now about Trump's indictments?

The same Fox News hosts and commentators defending Donald Trump now after his combined 91 felony indictments in four different cases were singing a very different tune in 2016, as highlighted by a new MSNBC supercut video.

When Hillary Clinton was running against Trump, multiple voices on the right-wing network cried out that the nation couldn’t handle a president under investigation.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fox-news-hypocrisy-supercut_n_64f56a5fe
4b0e9b3e9e8fe2b


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Remember when Jeanine Pirro, Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, and Newt Gingrich were losing their minds over Hillary Clinton becoming president while under FBI investigation? Want to compare with what they're saying now about Trump's indictments?

The same Fox News hosts and commentators defending Donald Trump now after his combined 91 felony indictments in four different cases were singing a very different tune in 2016, as highlighted by a new MSNBC supercut video.

When Hillary Clinton was running against Trump, multiple voices on the right-wing network cried out that the nation couldn’t handle a president under investigation.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fox-news-hypocrisy-supercut_n_64f56a5fe
4b0e9b3e9e8fe2b


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Uh huh...



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Remember when Jeanine Pirro, Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, and Newt Gingrich were losing their minds over Hillary Clinton becoming president while under FBI investigation? Want to compare with what they're saying now about Trump's indictments?

The same Fox News hosts and commentators defending Donald Trump now after his combined 91 felony indictments in four different cases were singing a very different tune in 2016, as highlighted by a new MSNBC supercut video.

When Hillary Clinton was running against Trump, multiple voices on the right-wing network cried out that the nation couldn’t handle a president under investigation.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fox-news-hypocrisy-supercut_n_64f56a5fe
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Yep

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There Is Nothing Élitist About the Indictments Against Trump
by Adam Gopnik

Not long ago, I had the uncomfortable privilege of reporting for jury duty, and spent three days in a downtown courtroom—cursing the inconvenience, waiting to be called, and yet coming away inspired by the process. From a genuine cross-section of New Yorkers of many colors and classes, a jury was selected that seemed likely to do justice in a criminal case in which a man might be found guilty and deprived of his freedom. Waiting in the courtroom—though, by the luck of the draw, never called—I listened as the judge, a Black woman with a clear, soothing, rather Ina Garten-like voice, worked hard to spot biases, uncover conflicts of interest, discover outside attachments, and probe inadequate English to discover just how adequate it might become, while insisting, gently but keenly, that all potential jurors examine their consciences to be sure that they could judge the case objectively, according to the law.

It was touching, even encouraging, at this moment in history, to hear such old-fashioned terms—“impartial,” “following the law,” even “conscience”—used so confidently, and the judge’s explanation of how the trial would happen, with those honest consciences consulting one another after invigilating the facts, was still more impressive.

The circumstances of the juries that are likely to be impanelled to hear criminal trials of Donald Trump, presumably in the near future—in federal court in Washington, D.C., and in state court in Fulton County, Georgia, among other locales—are, I’m assured, recognizably alike. (The conservative converso David Frum wrote recently about serving on such D.C. juries, and of how impressive they were in the pluralism of their makeup and the seriousness of their purpose.)

Nonetheless, an effort is under way, not all of it from nakedly self-interested sources, to treat Trump’s criminal indictments (in which he denies all charges) as one more act in a kind of ongoing masquerade, or political pantomime. The indictments, in this view, do not simply submit him to the scrutiny of the law and that mixed box of fellow-citizens. They’re a strike of one discrete class against another, with “élite” Americans bent on settling a score with Trump and, through him, with his long-neglected supporters. The educated élite is out to get a tribune of the volk.

In recent weeks, David Brooks, in the Times, gently and empathetically, and David Von Drehle, in the Washington Post, more caustically, have both aired this by now well-rehearsed idea. Brooks wrote that “the Trump indictments seem like just another skirmish in the class war between the professionals and the workers, another assault by a bunch of coastal lawyers who want to take down the man who most aggressively stands up to them,” and Von Drehle noted that “I don’t think most Trump supporters actually want to live in a world where an elderly sociopath has unfettered power. But they do want to live in a world where those currently in power are cowed and cautious rather than smug. Trump delivers on that.”

Yet the empirical evidence does not support the idea that Trump and Trumpism are principally moved by those disposed by planetary capitalism or meritocratic displacement, and the vision of Trump as the voice of the economically anxious has been exploded as many times as it has been offered. If there is a pattern to Trumpite support, it seems to be that it is strongest among people—white, for the most part—who are among the wealthiest in their own communities, and fear a loss of status in the world at large. (This is a classic pattern of the rise of support for far-right nationalist groups—it isn’t only an aggrieved underclass but also a threatened portion of the overclass that supports fascism.)

Second, it is facially absurd, as lawyers say, to break down the pro- and anti-Trump divisions into that of an élite class against an overlooked one. Trump is a billionaire supported by billionaires. Some of those billionaires have developed cold feet over time, realizing what Trump is; some have not; and some, like Rupert Murdoch, who is perhaps the most important, are agonized—not least by the sheer expense of backing Trump’s lies—but will fall in line when the time comes, and in many cases already have. As Anne Applebaum recently suggested, in The Atlantic, what moves conservatives to collaborate with fascists—or leftists to collaborate with Stalinists—is not a blind embrace of what they know to be evil but a growing acceptance of what had originally been unimaginable, particularly, it seems, when another political party is imagined as becoming utterly destructive in the absence of some ferocious counterweight.

John Eastman—the lawyer who is reported to be the unindicted co-conspirator No. 2 in the special counsel Jack Smith’s indictment of Trump, involving events surrounding January 6th, and who on Monday became, along with Trump, one of nineteen named defendants in an indictment on attempts to overturn the 2020 election results in Georgia brought by Fani Willis, the district attorney of Fulton County—unintentionally voiced this fear in a recent interview. (The law firm representing Eastman said that his alleged activities in Georgia were “political, but not criminal,” and that Eastman would fight the indictment.) Eastman implied there was a right to revolution even if he and his allies accepted the fact that Joe Biden won the 2020 election, and the horrors he landed on, which could seemingly end up justifying such momentous change, included children being forced into drag-queen story time. Granted, not everyone likes Drag Queen Story Hour, but it seems like a mighty trivial event to end a democracy over. In any case, the idea that somehow liberals are responsible for bringing on right-wing authoritarianism is of a piece with the domestic abuser’s refrain “Look what you made me do.” Or, for that matter, with the idea that antisemitism would not exist if Jews did not provoke their own persecution.

One can find other fractures and divides on the issue, but the idea that they fall along neat class or meritocratic lines, or represent some confrontation of educated and entrepreneurial kinds, is false. Political movements are coalitions of many kinds, and coalitions take in warring sides of the same social and educational class. I recently wrote about Jonathan Healey’s new historiography of the English Civil War—the seventeenth-century one that preceded the United States’—and the revelation that the familiar explanation of its origins, that of an ascendant bourgeois class pitted against an embattled aristocratic class, has been emptied out. The ideological lines, it turns out, ran right down the middle of both “classes,” with some supposed members of the bourgeoisie being staunch Royalists, and some in the aristocracy being the most open to anti-monarchical ideas—and, eventually, actions. The Civil War was, Healey writes, “a clash of ideologies, as often as not between members of the same class.”

So the fight in that war actually was over the ideas and beliefs that the people who fought it said it was: religious values, political convictions, ideas about the state and ideas about the individual, and, most powerfully, ideas about judicial process against a counter-ideal of absolutist obedience. The ideas in seventeenth-century London were distributed strangely, widely, and often eccentrically. But people held genuine beliefs, and the history is most lucidly understood as their clash.

In this country, at this most critical moment since our own Civil War, the question is not whether élites are condescending to the people, or whether those people and their country are somehow irrevocably or structurally racist. It’s a conflict between coalitions, each of which envelops the privileged and the underprivileged, the high-status and the status-threatened, the wealthy and the poor. It’s a conflict about values and beliefs, in which both sides—and, more important, each person—determine their own views and are responsible for their own choices. In the end, it is a fight, Lincoln’s fight, perpetual in American history, between those who actually believe in liberal democratic institutions and those who don’t. And the Trump indictments are a case that will involve individual consciences lined up on either side of a single question—Lincoln’s question. Can a nation conceived in liberty resist the temptations of tyranny?

The judge in the case that I didn’t get to serve on as a juror was right; ultimately, a democratic country depends on you consulting your own conscience, not your clan interests, and on questions of right and wrong and the legal process. It’s a high standard but—this is perhaps the best lesson of jury duty—a surprisingly obtainable one. Making civic judgements is a collective effort, cutting across kinds. It’s why, once in the jury box, we can see one another only as citizens.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/there-is-nothing-elitist-
about-the-indictments-against-trump


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The problem with the legal system is that it works too slowly. Trump can get away by dying during the interim between committing a crime and Trump being convicted. (Trump's mentor, Roy Cohn, avoided paying all income taxes by dying from AIDS before the legal machinery could force Cohn to pay after decades of litigation.)

The 26 women who have accused Trump of sexual misconduct
May 9, 2023, 3:09 PM CDT
https://www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-
list-2017-12


For an example of somebody who, unlike Trump and Cohn, is too young to escape jail for his crimes:

Sept 7, 2023 -- Danny Masterson Is Sentenced to 30 Years to Life in Prison for Two Rapes more than 20 years in the past

The “That ’70s Show” actor was found guilty in May of raping two women in the early 2000s.

Danny Masterson, the actor best known for his role in the sitcom “That ’70s Show,” was sentenced to 30 years to life in prison on Thursday for the rapes of two women when he was at the height of his career more than 20 years ago.

Judge Charlaine F. Olmedo of Los Angeles Superior Court handed the sentence down after hearing statements from the women, who described the lasting impact of Masterson’s actions on their lives.

“The body is a relentless witness,” one of the accusers, identified as N. Trout, said in a statement that was read aloud in the courtroom on Thursday. “When you raped me you stole from me,” she said. “That is what rape is, a theft of the spirit.”

George Gascón, the Los Angeles district attorney, said he hoped the women’s bravery would be an example to others. “Justice was finally served today,” he said, noting that one of his top priorities was to ensure “Los Angeles will no longer be a hunting ground for Hollywood elite who feel entitled to prey on women.”

Shawn Holley, a lawyer for Masterson, told reporters outside the courtroom that she was “very disappointed” in the sentence, noting that a team of lawyers had reviewed the case and found “a number of significant evidentiary and constitutional issues” that they planned to use in appeals.

“Though we have great respect for the jury, and for our system of justice, sometimes they get it wrong — and that’s what happened here,” Holley said, noting that Masterson maintains his innocence.

Masterson, 47, will be eligible for parole in 20 years, according to the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office.

Masterson played Steven Hyde on “That ’70s Show” from 1998 to 2006 and also starred in the television comedy “Men at Work” from 2012 to 2014. More recently, he appeared in the Netflix comedy “The Ranch,” but was fired from the show in 2017 after the rape allegations emerged.

The case against Masterson drew widespread attention, and at times mirrored a television saga, in part because of accusations that the Church of Scientology, to which Masterson belonged, had tried to discourage his accusers.

In May, Masterson was convicted of raping two women at his home in the Hollywood Hills in the early 2000s. The jury deadlocked on a charge that the actor had raped a third woman.

The mixed verdict was delivered after a jury deadlocked on all three charges in November, resulting in a mistrial.

The retrial this spring lasted more than a month before Masterson was found guilty of two counts of rape by force or fear.

The legal case against Masterson began unfolding in 2020, when he was charged with three counts. He pleaded not guilty.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/07/arts/television/danny-masterson-rap
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The prosecutions of Donald Trump are something to celebrate, not lament

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/09/trump-prosecutions-a
merican-democracy/675262
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Several distinguished individuals have recently expressed grave reservations about the prosecutions of former President Donald Trump. Notably, they appear to have no dispute about the seriousness of his wrongdoing. Rather, their main concern is that “terrible consequences” may result, because the prosecutions “may come to be seen as political trials … and play directly into the hands of Trump and his allies.” Although many Trump supporters will view the situation in just this way, any suggestion that prosecution is therefore unwise misconceives what is at stake here and, sadly, is evidence of America’s diminished national spirit.

For a free society wishing to preserve its governmental system, the prosecutions of Donald Trump for trying to overturn our democracy and willfully mishandling national secrets is not optional. They are the essential step that must be taken if America’s rule of law is going to survive, and be worthy of the trust that is essential to that survival. More hopefully, they offer the nation its single best chance of escaping from the appalling thrall of Trump’s lies and insults since he came down that escalator eight years ago.

One cannot imagine a more serious set of offenses by a sitting president against the nation than working deliberately to overturn the result of a democratic election—one that he clearly knew from his closest advisers he had lost—or illegally squirreling away and refusing to return some of the country’s most sensitive secrets. The seriousness is greatly magnified in the first instance by the extent and persistence of the conduct at issue, spanning many months and transcending multiple states and means used to change the electoral outcome. In the documents case, again, the amount of classified material and the persistence of evasive efforts to avoid returning the materials is breathtaking.

The extent and quality of the evidence of wrongdoing in both cases, including audio and video tapes, is also extraordinary, and reveals in countless ways that Trump was the primary driving force behind virtually all of the key misdeeds in both cases. In any situation where so much evidence exists, there will be complexities associated with prosecuting. And yes, a jury could nevertheless acquit or hang. But that risk is present in every criminal case, and is no reason to decline to prosecute.

To do so in these cases—featuring truly egregious wrongs personally committed by someone in a position of the highest trust—would be a failure of our vaunted system of equal justice at the most fundamental level. The planners and perpetrators of the January 6 events that Trump inspired and refused to stop are now receiving sentences of roughly 20 years; giving a pass to the person who unquestionably caused it all by violating his most sacred obligations to the nation would be unthinkable.

But it is not just an abstract commitment to justice—and to the idea that no person should be above the law—that urgently necessitates prosecution here. It is also the need to deter the worst forms of conduct that Trump has persisted in as we look forward to future elections, including those happening next fall. Although he failed to achieve his goal by illegal means in the election of 2020, he and many of his Republican allies are working hard not only to delegitimize the last election but to see that the next election will go his way regardless of the votes actually cast. If very strong evidence of such wrongdoing does not merit criminal enforcement, what is to deter Trump or anyone from trying to steal elections in the future?

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They are political trials.

Everyone knows that they are political trials. Even you two goons.

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They are political trials.

Everyone knows that they are political trials. Even you two goons.

You failed to read any of the indictments. In Trump's case, a million dollars per week in lawyer fees may convince four different juries and the following appeals that he doesn't deserve punishment, but he certainly deserves four trials to prove he is not guilty.

https://www.google.com/search?q=indictment+text+trump

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Quote:

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They are political trials.

Everyone knows that they are political trials. Even you two goons.

You failed to read any of the indictments.



No I didn't.



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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
They are political trials.

Everyone knows that they are political trials. Even you two goons.

You failed to read any of the indictments.



No I didn't.

I have never known a Trumptard who wasn't a crook. They see no problems with their own behavior so it is no surprise that you, another Trumptard, could read four different indictments of Trump and see no problems with what he did. By the way, these crooked Trumptards get into deep trouble because of their behavior but they find their troubles incomprehensible since they do not know what bad behavior is. Why? Whatever they do is "good" by definition in their minds, if not in reality.

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E. Jean Carroll Has Already Won a Second Trial Against Trump And it hasn’t even happened yet.

By Christina Cauterucci, Sept 11, 2023 5:45 AM

Last week, in a ruling on a defamation case in New York, a federal judge made a simple statement of fact: Donald Trump sexually assaulted E. Jean Carroll in the 1990s. Therefore, when he denied it, he was lying.

The ruling marks a victory for Carroll in a second defamation lawsuit she filed against the former president. This one concerns a set of statements he made in 2019 accusing Carroll of being a liar and a money-grubbing left-wing operative who was not his “type.” Now, instead of jurors having to determine whether Trump did what Carroll said he did, the jury must only decide how much Trump owes Carroll in damages for defaming her by calling her a liar.

In many ways, Judge Lewis Kaplan’s decision was a no-brainer: A jury already found Trump liable for sexually abusing Carroll in a separate trial held this spring. That case concerned both the sexual assault itself and a set of statements Trump made in 2022 in which he denied assaulting Carroll. Since the first jury found Trump liable for both assaulting Carroll in the 1990s and defaming her in 2022, Kaplan had little choice but to rule that Trump’s nearly identical statements in 2019 defamed her as well. As Kaplan wrote in his ruling:

The truth or falsity of Mr. Trump’s 2019 statements … depends—like the truth or falsity of his 2022 statement—on whether Ms. Carroll lied about Mr. Trump sexually assaulting her. The jury’s finding that she did not therefore is binding in this case and precludes Mr. Trump from contesting the falsity of his 2019 statements.

Even so, it is remarkable to see the facts laid out this way in a dispassionate court ruling. No matter how intently Trump insists that he never did what Carroll said he did, the question of whether he sexually assaulted her is no longer up for debate. A jury found him liable. That verdict cannot be erased.

More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/09/e-jean-carroll-trump-trial
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They are political trials.

Everyone knows that they are political trials. Even you two goons.

You failed to read any of the indictments.



No I didn't.

I have never known a Trumptard who wasn't a crook. They see no problems with their own behavior so it is no surprise that you, another Trumptard, could read four different indictments of Trump and see no problems with what he did. By the way, these crooked Trumptards get into deep trouble because of their behavior but they find their troubles incomprehensible since they do not know what bad behavior is. Why? Whatever they do is "good" by definition in their minds, if not in reality.



That's not what's happening here.

The indictments are bullshit.

Trump simply didn't do those things.



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E. Jean Carroll Has Already Won a Second Trial Against Trump And it hasn’t even happened yet.

By Christina Cauterucci, Sept 11, 2023 5:45 AM

Last week, in a ruling on a defamation case in New York, a federal judge made a simple statement of fact: Donald Trump sexually assaulted E. Jean Carroll in the 1990s. Therefore, when he denied it, he was lying.

The ruling marks a victory for Carroll in a second defamation lawsuit she filed against the former president. This one concerns a set of statements he made in 2019 accusing Carroll of being a liar and a money-grubbing left-wing operative who was not his “type.” Now, instead of jurors having to determine whether Trump did what Carroll said he did, the jury must only decide how much Trump owes Carroll in damages for defaming her by calling her a liar.

In many ways, Judge Lewis Kaplan’s decision was a no-brainer: A jury already found Trump liable for sexually abusing Carroll in a separate trial held this spring. That case concerned both the sexual assault itself and a set of statements Trump made in 2022 in which he denied assaulting Carroll. Since the first jury found Trump liable for both assaulting Carroll in the 1990s and defaming her in 2022, Kaplan had little choice but to rule that Trump’s nearly identical statements in 2019 defamed her as well. As Kaplan wrote in his ruling:

The truth or falsity of Mr. Trump’s 2019 statements … depends—like the truth or falsity of his 2022 statement—on whether Ms. Carroll lied about Mr. Trump sexually assaulting her. The jury’s finding that she did not therefore is binding in this case and precludes Mr. Trump from contesting the falsity of his 2019 statements.

Even so, it is remarkable to see the facts laid out this way in a dispassionate court ruling. No matter how intently Trump insists that he never did what Carroll said he did, the question of whether he sexually assaulted her is no longer up for debate. A jury found him liable. That verdict cannot be erased.

More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/09/e-jean-carroll-trump-trial
-number-two.html



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A ruling by a 78 year old Clinton appointed Democrat judge. That wasn't going to go any other way.

These are political trials, plain and simple.

Is it any wonder why Cenk from TYT has now put out a petition to get Joe Biden* out of the race?



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President Biden, Please Drop Out

ABOUT THIS PETITION

President Joe Biden has had a long and historied career in American government. He rescued us from the possibility of a second Trump term and we appreciate his service to the country. But at this point in time, we must have a strong, healthy candidate to make sure we avoid a fascist takeover of our government. Dear Mr. President, please do the right thing and bow out with dignity, so we can move on to the next generation of Democratic leaders - and so that we can defeat Donald Trump and the radical Republicans.



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A ruling by a 78 year old Clinton appointed Democrat judge. That wasn't going to go any other way.

These are political trials, plain and simple.

Putin says prosecution of Trump shows US political system is 'rotten'

Russian President Vladimir Putin has asserted that the criminal cases against former U.S. President Donald Trump are political revenge that show the fundamental corruption of the United States

By The Associated Press, September 12, 2023, 4:29 AM

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/putin-prosecution-trump
-shows-us-political-system-rotten-103110787


Putin must know what he talking about since he actually jails politicians who run against him: "Russian opposition activist Navalny is sentenced to 19 more years in prison"
https://www.npr.org/2023/08/04/1191809199/navalny-prison-sentence-russ
ia-putin-kremlin


On second thought, maybe Putin does NOT understand that Trump is a real-life crook since Putin is a similar crook: "Has Vladimir Putin Always Been Corrupt? And Does it Matter?"
https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/has-vladimir-putin-always-bee
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A ruling by a 78 year old Clinton appointed Democrat judge. That wasn't going to go any other way.

These are political trials, plain and simple.

Putin says prosecution of Trump shows US political system is 'rotten'



So the fuck what?

You're wrong about almost everything but every once in a while you say something that makes sense.

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This week, six courts showed the importance of accountability for former president Donald Trump. The rulings came from the federal courts in Georgia and Florida, from state courts in New York and Georgia, and from appellate courts.

Judges from every ideological bent finally appear to be on to Trump’s favorite litigation tactic — delay, delay, delay — and that they are through with it. It’s worth digging into each case individually to see the full picture.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/09/judicial-trend-donald-trum
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Special counsel Jack Smith is asking a judge to issue a gag order against Trump, prohibiting him from attacking potential witnesses in his criminal trials.

Trump’s public vitriol has unleashed harassment by Trump followers. The prosecution specifically cited Trump’s attacks on his former cybersecurity aide Chris Krebs, Georgia election worker Ruby Freeman and former Georgia Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan as examples of figures who faced threats as a result of being singled out by the former president on social media.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/15/jack-smith-seeks-gag-order-on
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"We're Democrats in 2023. We love censorship!"



Get fucked, retard. Your time is done. Enjoy this next year while you still can, even though you've got nothing at all to show for it.



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Get fucked, retard. Your time is done. Enjoy this next year while you still can, even though you've got nothing at all to show for it.

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A neuroscientist explains why MAGA supporters refuse to accept Trump's 91 felony charges

by Bobby Azarian, Raw Story
https://www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/donald-trump-supporters/

When delving into the perplexing world of politics and the enigmatic figure of Donald Trump, we often encounter a peculiar phenomenon amongst his supporters: a staunch refusal to accept any criminal allegation or felony charge against him, no matter how compelling the evidence.

There are many neurological and psychological reasons for this irrational behavior. But today, we will focus on the mental phenomena I feel are most urgent to explore ahead of the 2024 presidential election.

Now that Trump is running for president again while facing 91 felony charges, I feel a moral responsibility to illuminate all the mental factors that are driving Americans to support a man who is a master manipulator, and incapable of telling the truth. Unfortunately, these are qualities that are too common among presidential candidates, but Trump is a particularly egregious example, and therefore we must be vigilant. This article is meant to inform but also to warn voters of what is to come.

Cognitive challenge of disbelief

In 2009, a study published in PLOS ONE challenged our understanding of belief systems.

Researchers placed participants into the confines of an fMRI scanner and presented them with a mixture of factual and abstract statements. The results were illuminating. Disbelief, it turns out, is cognitively demanding. It requires more mental effort than simply accepting a statement as true. From an evolutionary perspective, this preference for easy belief makes sense; a perpetually skeptical individual questioning every piece of information would struggle to adapt in a fast-paced world.

What does all this have to do with Trump supporters? Well, it’s far less cognitively demanding for them to believe anything their leader tells them. Any challenge to what Trump tells them is true takes mental work. This means there is a psychological incentive for Trump loyalists to maintain their loyalty. (I wrote about this phenomenon in a slightly different context in the Daily Beast article "Religious Fundamentalism: A Side Effect of Lazy Brains?")

Molding of belief: neuroplasticity at play

Now, let's consider the unique predicament faced by individuals who staunchly support Trump and want him to again become president. From the moment Trump began his political career and his social engineering career, his supporters have been exposed to narratives — Trump doesn't lie, Democrats are communists, the media is an enemy of the people — that emphasize loyalty and trust in their political idol. These narratives often steer away from critical examination and instead encourage blind faith. When coupled with the brain's inherent tendency to accept rather than question, it creates an ideal environment for unwavering allegiance. No matter that Trump, time and again, has been revealed to be a serial liar, habitually misrepresenting matters of great consequence, from elections to economics to public health.

For example, in the Psychology Today article "Why Evangelicals are Wired to Believe Trump’s Falsehoods," I explain that the children of Christian fundamentalists typically begin to suppress critical thinking at an early age. This is required if one is to accept Biblical stories as literal truth, rather than metaphors for how to live life practically and with purpose. Attributing natural occurrences to mystical causes discourages youth from seeking evidence to back their beliefs.

Consequently, the brain structures that support critical thinking and logical reasoning don't fully mature. This paves the way for heightened vulnerability to deceit and manipulative narratives, especially from cunning political figures. Such increased suggestibility arises from a mix of the brain's propensity to accept unverified claims and intense indoctrination. Given the brain's neuroplastic nature, which allows it to shape according to experiences, some religious followers are more predisposed to accept improbable assertions.

In other words, our brains are remarkably adaptable and continuously evolving landscapes. For ardent Trump supporters, residing in an environment that prioritizes faith over empirical evidence can reshape the neural circuits within their brains.

Imagine these neural pathways as trails in a forest. The more one traverses the path of unquestioning belief, the clearer and more entrenched it becomes. The path of skepticism, however, grows over with doubts and becomes difficult to navigate. This cognitive reshaping primes individuals to accept, and even defend, far-fetched statements and suggestions presented by manipulative politicians.

The Dunning-Kruger effect

This cognitive bias occurs when individuals with low ability at a task overestimate their capability. Translated to the context of understanding complex legal matters, some Trumpists might believe they have a superior grasp of the former president’s predicament and dismiss expert opinions, thinking they're immune to being misled.

The Dunning-Kruger effect becomes especially concerning in the context of polarizing issues, such as climate change. A research study from the University of New Hampshire in 2017, for example, revealed that a mere 25 percent of those identifying as Trump supporters acknowledged the role of human actions in climate change. This is in stark contrast to the 97 percent consensus among climate scientists on the issue.

This troublesome cognitive bias could be making it easier for Trump to deliver unchallenged falsehoods to his more uneducated followers. In some cases, not only are these individuals uninformed, they are unlikely to seek new information on their own. In their minds, they have nothing to learn because Trump and his acolytes have already told them what they need to know.
Reevaluating our cognitive reflexes

It is important to state that these phenomena are not exclusive to Trump supporters or any particular political group; this article serves as a broader reflection on the cognitive shortcuts that our brains favor.

If we aspire to build a society less susceptible to misinformation, we must embark on a paradigm shift. Our educational approach should pivot from passive acceptance of supposed “facts” to the exhilarating pursuit of questioning authority and healthy skepticism (as too much skepticism can also lead to irrational thinking). Recognizing that belief, in many ways, is the brain's default mode rather than a conscious choice, can serve as the first step in this cerebral revolution.

In conclusion, the unwavering belief in Trump, despite the felony charges against him, is not solely a political matter but, for some, a manifestation of our brain's intrinsic tendencies. Understanding this cognitive dynamic is pivotal in addressing the challenges posed by misinformation and fostering a more critical and discerning society.

Bobby Azarian is a cognitive neuroscientist and the author of the new book The Romance of Reality: How the Universe Organizes Itself to Create Life, Consciousness, and Cosmic Complexity. He is also a blogger for Psychology Today and the creator of the Substack Road to Omega. Follow him @BobbyAzarian.

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Oh! The cope!

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Oh! The cope!

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Trump's defense to January 6th has been one basic thing, which is I relied on the advice of my lawyers, I didn't have bad criminal intent, it is my lawyers who were telling me to do this. Blame my lawyers, not me!

But then Trump admitted on TV he did it all myself.

Trump made Jack Smith's case easier after NBC interview admission

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-jan-6-2665542442/

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Trump said Sunday that he didn’t respect lawyers and members of his campaign who told him he lost the 2020 presidential election and that it was his decision to buy into the theory that the election was rigged.

“You know who I listen to? Myself,” Trump said during an interview on NBC.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/17/trump-2020-election-rigged-00
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Oh! The cope!

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Trump's defense to January 6th has been one basic thing, which is I relied on the advice of my lawyers, I didn't have bad criminal intent, it is my lawyers who were telling me to do this. Blame my lawyers, not me!

But then Trump admitted on TV he did it all myself.

Trump made Jack Smith's case easier after NBC interview admission

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-jan-6-2665542442/

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Nothing happened on January 6th.



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Nothing happened on January 6th.

Thousands of years in prison sentences have been given to hundreds of Trumptards. Something happened that day.

Example: Enrique Tarrio, the former top leader of the Proud Boys, was sentenced to 22 years in prison on Tuesday, the latest in a series of hearings for members of the far-right group over their roles in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/05/enrique-tarrio-prison-sentenc
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DINER DENIZENS






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Nothing happened on January 6th.

Thousands of years in prison sentences have been given to hundreds of Trumptards. Something happened that day.

Example: Enrique Tarrio, the former top leader of the Proud Boys, was sentenced to 22 years in prison on Tuesday, the latest in a series of hearings for members of the far-right group over their roles in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/05/enrique-tarrio-prison-sentenc
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Capitol cop murdered a protestor, and then a bunch of the cops on that force Epstiened themselves in the weeks and months that followed that day.

Anybody who has been put in prison for any length of time for any non-events that happened on January 6th are merely political prisoners of the most corrupt US Administration in the history of the country.

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


And yet, THUGR, Trump stands a very good chance of being elected.

Where you see indictments as "proof of guilt*", I see them as evidence of a lawfare**. And, yanno, I'm just independent enough and angry enough to give The DC Swamp a fucking poke in the eye. If Trump is the only way to do that, I will.


* entirely bypassing the American principle of "innocent until proven guilty"
** warfare thru weaponized application of the law


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And yet, THUGR, Trump stands a very good chance of being elected.

Where you see indictments as "proof of guilt*", I see them as evidence of a lawfare**. And, yanno, I'm just independent enough and angry enough to give The DC Swamp a fucking poke in the eye. If Trump is the only way to do that, I will.


* entirely bypassing the American principle of "innocent until proven guilty"
** warfare thru weaponized application of the law






No comrade, he won't be reelected.

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And yet, THUGR, Trump stands a very good chance of being elected.

Where you see indictments as "proof of guilt*", I see them as evidence of a lawfare**. And, yanno, I'm just independent enough and angry enough to give The DC Swamp a fucking poke in the eye. If Trump is the only way to do that, I will.


* entirely bypassing the American principle of "innocent until proven guilty"
** warfare thru weaponized application of the law





tick tock

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Trump will be fine.

He will also be your next President.



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* entirely bypassing the American principle of "innocent until proven guilty"
** warfare thru weaponized application of the law


At this moment there are thousands of prisoners in downtown Houston awaiting trials that won't start for months. All prisoners are "innocent until proven guilty," but these innocents lost all freedom before evidence was submitted to a jury because they couldn't pay the bond to get out of jail. If they are convicted, their imprisonment will be softer and more comfortable than what these innocent people are enduring right now.

Signym, "innocent until proven guilty" does not mean what you think it means. The shortest explanation ever written is in Latin: Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat — "Proof lies on him who asserts, not on him who denies". The Latin is what goes on in the courtroom, but before the trial, the "innocent" accused are treated worse in county jail than convicted criminals in state prison.

https://www.harriscountyso.org/JailInfo/HCSO_FindSomeoneInJail.aspx In a properly run country, Trump would be in jail waiting for his trial to start, exactly like thousands of Texans are waiting today in the Harris County Jail. Trump would not be campaigning because he is no more "innocent" than those thousands.

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There's something wrong with you.

6ix, Trumptards are unable to even recognize the limits that you should meticulously respect. Instead of keeping a decent distance from the limits and staying well within the law, you Trumptards talk about "Innocent Until Proven Guilty", which translates to your deliberately bad behavior daring the law to punish you. Trump's entire life has been about skirting the law, testing how much he can get away with doing. This is why he has been in court, being sued or charged with a crime, thousands of times.

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Trump privately frets about life in prison

September 20, 2023, Rolling Stone reports:

In the past several months, Donald Trump has had a burning question for some of his confidants and attorneys:

Would the authorities make him wear “one of those jumpsuits” in prison?

As the criminal cases against him have piled up, the former president and 2024 GOP frontrunner has wondered aloud in recent months about what life would be like if he’s convicted, and if appeals fail. While Trump publicly professes confidence, privately, three sources familiar with his comments say, he’s been asking lawyers and other people close to him what a prison sentence would look like for a former American president.

Would he be sent to a “club fed” style prison — a place that’s relatively comfortable, as far these things go — or a “bad” prison? Would he serve out a sentence in a plush home confinement? Would government officials try to strip him of his lifetime Secret Service protections? What would they make him wear, if his enemies actually did ever get him in a cell — an unprecedented set of consequences for a former leader of the free world.

What would happen — including in the Fulton County, Georgia criminal case against him and various co-defendants — if he were convicted and sentenced, but also re-elected?

The private questions are a departure from the air of supreme confidence [and] invincibility Trump has projected. In interviews and elsewhere, he has claimed that the thought of losing in court and going to prison simply cannot enter his mind.

More at https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-prison-c
onviction-trial-1234828231
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, September 21, 2023 11:17 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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There's something wrong with you.

6ix, Trumptards are unable to even recognize the limits that you should meticulously respect. Instead of keeping a decent distance from the limits and staying well within the law, you Trumptards talk about "Innocent Until Proven Guilty", which translates to your deliberately bad behavior daring the law to punish you. Trump's entire life has been about skirting the law, testing how much he can get away with doing. This is why he has been in court, being sued or charged with a crime, thousands of times.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Be very careful what you wish for.

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Thursday, September 21, 2023 11:18 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Trump privately frets about life in prison

September 20, 2023, Rolling Stone reports:

In the past several months, Donald Trump has had a burning question for some of his confidants and attorneys:

Would the authorities make him wear “one of those jumpsuits” in prison?

As the criminal cases against him have piled up, the former president and 2024 GOP frontrunner has wondered aloud in recent months about what life would be like if he’s convicted, and if appeals fail. While Trump publicly professes confidence, privately, three sources familiar with his comments say, he’s been asking lawyers and other people close to him what a prison sentence would look like for a former American president.

Would he be sent to a “club fed” style prison — a place that’s relatively comfortable, as far these things go — or a “bad” prison? Would he serve out a sentence in a plush home confinement? Would government officials try to strip him of his lifetime Secret Service protections? What would they make him wear, if his enemies actually did ever get him in a cell — an unprecedented set of consequences for a former leader of the free world.

What would happen — including in the Fulton County, Georgia criminal case against him and various co-defendants — if he were convicted and sentenced, but also re-elected?

The private questions are a departure from the air of supreme confidence [and] invincibility Trump has projected. In interviews and elsewhere, he has claimed that the thought of losing in court and going to prison simply cannot enter his mind.

More at https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-prison-c
onviction-trial-1234828231
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



lol

Never happened.

Trump will be fine. He will also be your next President.



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Tuesday, September 26, 2023 9:06 AM

THG


Want to be an authoritarian? First you create a message that resonates with the blamers, whiners and complainers. Then you discredit the press, the courts and civil servants. Trumps been doing this since day one.

Once Trump started the process useful idiots lined up to join with him. Uneducated, whiny and corrupt individuals. Morons who would use their vote to vote for people who would strip them of their right to vote.

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