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Sunday, August 8, 2021 5:39 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
A bunch of legal gobbledy gook so retards like you can pretend that bad things aren't bad.

Fuck you, Second. You'd be screaming right now if you owned real estate.



You're missing the point anyhow.

While we're going to pretend that the Government can't prevent a business from instituting a vaccine mandate, let's also get rid of the minimum wage mandate.

There has been talk about abolishing the minimum wage:
Abolish the Federal Minimum Wage
Local governments and entrepreneurs are in the best position to decide what wages should be.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-01-25/abolish-the-fede
ral-minimum-wage


While they are abolishing laws, how about child labor protections?
A Case against Child Labor Prohibitions. Those kids need to work to support their families!
https://www.cato.org/economic-development-bulletin/case-against-child-
labor-prohibitions


I caused a management crisis because the client I was working for, Rohm & Haas, didn't like beards. The justification? Respirators that Rohm & Haas provide, which I would have to wear if there was an accidental release, won't fit air-tight over a beard. There never was an accident, but I cut the beard. Life is terribly hard and unjust for workers in America, but thankfully the Republican Party, and especially Trump, are fighting to raise the minimum wage (and lower the number of vaccinations and masks).


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Thanks for fully illustrating the point that I made back in April of this year in the Passport ban thread.



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Hmmmmmmmm....

What else is a government imposed mandate on businesses?

Let me think...

1. Minimum Wage.
2. Equal Opportunity Employment.
3. 4 hours for a break, 8 hours for a lunch.
4. Child Labor Laws.
5. Overtime after 40 hours a week.
6. Worker's Compensation.
7. Family Medical Leave.
8. OSHA.
9. Whistleblower Protection.
10. Not having to piss in a fucking bottle while delivering packages and sitting on a pressure sensitive seats that let the CEO know exactly where you are and how often you're in that seat.


I know there's more. That's just off the top of my head.


Go ahead and tell corporations they don't have to follow this one rule and see how quickly they all start making everyone work 12 hour shifts with no overtime or piss breaks in plants as dangerous as any operating in China.

Is it any wonder that all the corporations abandoned the Republican party and have gone all in behind Democrats today?

Do try your best to take your shits early, and don't forget to put on your Depends when you leave the house.

Idiots.

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Imagine the hypocrisy of a government who will allow businesses to card people to get a job or buy groceries, but won't card people to vote in elections and gives millions of non-citizens free money from taxpayers.



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Sunday, August 8, 2021 7:56 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Jack - you missed appreciate: to increase in value over time.

Context, hon. In context it was quite clear Signy was referring to 'To be thankful or show gratitude for'.
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BTW, I don't appreciate sincerity. Being sincere is easy. Being objective is much harder, and very rare.
And if you asked, that's what she would affirm.

AND YOU ALSO MEANT 'To be thankful or show gratitude for' IN YOUR REPLY
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I appreciate both.
You're not being objective, but you are being sincere. And 1 out of 2 ain't bad.





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I mean... we're absolutely SURE that you're not Russian, right Kiki?


Oh, and it's pretty obvious you've been taking lessons in being SLOPPY's SECOND.




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Sunday, August 8, 2021 8:04 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Jack - you missed appreciate: to increase in value over time.



I just stopped after the two relevant ones.



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Context, hon. In context it was quite clear Signy was referring to 'To be thankful or show gratitude for'. And if you asked, that's what she would affirm.


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BTW, I don't appreciate sincerity. Being sincere is easy. Being objective is much harder, and very rare.


Yes. That much was quite clear. No need to ask her.

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AS WERE YOU when you replied.


Are you sure about that? You should read my posts again and not take them the way you want to take them.



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I mean... we're absolutely SURE that you're not Russian, right Kiki?


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Oh, and it's pretty obvious you've been taking lessons in being SLOPPY's SECOND.







I'll take the fact that you're no longer hiding behind the pussy card as a win here.

Sanity must have finally prevailed and you realize that I'm an absolute asshole to Ted and Second every day despite the micro-penises hidden under their panties.

Glad to see that you don't sound like Nilbog's stand-in today.



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Sunday, August 8, 2021 8:07 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



You're a troll to anyone who disagrees with you AND ANY FEMALE WHO CHALLENGES YOUR EGO, fact and evidence be damned.

Brenda makes a point of being very apologetic when she states her opinion, Signy makes a point of being mostly silent to your asshole-ness.

I'm not nearly as complaint with your raging fragile ego.

Snowflake





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Sunday, August 8, 2021 8:09 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You added this part while I was replying:

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Oh, btw, just for your info - should you take your collusion with SLOPPY into the RL - I have a surprise for you.





I have no idea where you get the idea that Second and I are colluding about anything, but I love surprises.



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Sunday, August 8, 2021 8:11 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

You're a troll to anyone who disagrees with you AND ANY FEMALE WHO CHALLENGES YOUR EGO, fact and evidence be damned.



"ANY FEMALE WHO CHALLENGES MY EGO" falls directly under the category of "anyone" and doesn't need to be segregated.

I do exactly the same to any male who says dumb shit too.

Long post history of that here, and I don't delete posts. Go check it.



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Brenda makes a point of being very apologetic when she states her opinion, Signy makes a point of being mostly silent to your asshole-ness.


Signy and Brenda have nothing to do with this. The fact that you're pulling them into it because of your sexism speaks volumes about you and your mental state.



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I'm not nearly as complaint with your raging fragile ego.

Snowflake




I'm not the one making this an issue over sexism. You are.

I'm also not the one who started flinging personal attacks in this argument. You are.

Check the post history, babe.



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Sunday, August 8, 2021 8:51 PM

DREAMTROVE


Hey, I haven't read these thousands of posts, will I find stuff in here?
I mean, the vax is a bioweapon, revelations, it's the 2nd vial, blood of the dead man, covid was the mark of the beast, 5 more sabbatean bioweapons headed our way (zioweapons?) there's a lot of chemistry behind it, which I can spam post if you want, but obvious bioweapon. looking for any resources on that angle. Not at all interested in the official story. It's obviously their bioweapon, I've heard their story.

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Sunday, August 8, 2021 10:40 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


COVID-19 accounts for nearly half of all police deaths

This year's stats for line-of-duty deaths among police officers:
https://www.odmp.org/search/year/2021



Deaths from COVID-19 nearly equal all other causes combined. And yet news reports repeatedly list police as one of the occupations most resistant to vaccination.

Policing is dangerous work, and the last thing we need is to double the number of deaths they already suffer.

https://jabberwocking.com/covid-19-accounts-for-nearly-half-of-all-pol
ice-deaths
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, August 8, 2021 11:02 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
COVID-19 accounts for nearly half of all police deaths



92 manufactured Covid-19 deaths among police officers, huh?

There were 697,195 cops in the US in 2019. They must have a higher resistance to the virus than the general population because of the line of work they chose..

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Deaths from COVID-19 nearly equal all other causes combined. And yet news reports repeatedly list police as one of the occupations most resistant to vaccination.


LOL... Legacy Media in full spin mode, I see.

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Policing is dangerous work, and the last thing we need is to double the number of deaths they already suffer.


Like you give one single shit, Antifa/BLM sympathizer.

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Sunday, August 8, 2021 11:17 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


https://www.theblaze.com/blaze-news/whitlock-nfl-covid-policy-turning-
quarterback-kirk-cousins-into-muhammad-ali


Taking a knee when you know full well the entire Legacy Media is going to blow you for it, and then later after everybody else is doing so for clout is neither stunning nor brave.

This dude is brave.

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Sunday, August 8, 2021 11:28 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Hey, I haven't read these thousands of posts, will I find stuff in here?
I mean, the vax is a bioweapon, revelations, it's the 2nd vial, blood of the dead man, covid was the mark of the beast, 5 more sabbatean bioweapons headed our way (zioweapons?) there's a lot of chemistry behind it, which I can spam post if you want, but obvious bioweapon. looking for any resources on that angle. Not at all interested in the official story. It's obviously their bioweapon, I've heard their story.

I think COVID-19 is a bioweapon intermediate that got out before its time. My question is who owns it? I'd be really curious what you think of that.

But yeah - your story. I'm OK with you spam posting.



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Sunday, August 8, 2021 11:29 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
COVID-19 accounts for nearly half of all police deaths



92 manufactured Covid-19 deaths among police officers, huh?

There were 697,195 cops in the US in 2019. They must have a higher resistance to the virus than the general population because of the line of work they chose..

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Deaths from COVID-19 nearly equal all other causes combined. And yet news reports repeatedly list police as one of the occupations most resistant to vaccination.

Only 10 deaths from heart attacks. Cops must have strong brave hearts. Only 37 deaths from guns. Cops must be bullet proof. I am pretty sure 6ix is mentally fucked when it comes to Covid-19. What the hell happened to you, 6ix, to make you this crazy and stupid? You really need to write a history explaining how you ended up unemployable, with no teeth, living all alone in a poor white trash shack. Did all that alcohol damage your brain and liver?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, August 8, 2021 11:34 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Awww...

Widdel dick Second resorting to personal attacks now because the narrative he follows is stupid.

You've been all-in supporting Antifa/BLM for the last year and a half.

Go pretend that you give a single shit about police officers in some other forum where we don't all know that you're a hypocrite to the core, smoothbrain.

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Monday, August 9, 2021 6:59 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


KIKI: SIX is being an idiot and a narcissist, and as far as you're concerned, a liar and an a-hole.

I've made that point already, more than once.

But I don't intend to make "Yes you are/ no I'm not" the point pf EVERY post. I don't do that for SECONDRATE and I don't do that for THUGR; I just mostly let their trolling and stupidity go by and only pop in now and again to remind them that I think SECONDRATE has snakes in his head and he's full of hate and THUGR knows nothing about pretty much everything and fully intends to keep it that way.

And I STILL can't figure out why the Dems won't take the win on the lower death rates but are hyperfocusing on "cases" instead of "deaths".

I mean, like their many narratives - and narrative changes - CLEARLY this is a policy decision based on something OTHER THAN reality, and is being supported by the M$M and Big Tech. And like the Iraq invasion there are prolly multiple reasons from different factions as to why this is so, but I can't settle on THE overarching reason driving this.

Any thoughts?


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Monday, August 9, 2021 7:36 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


KIKI: I know that YOU know that the reporting on Covid-19 is entirely distorted, and that you would make mincemeat of the following article, if you bothered to read it at all, since the print version is only good for wrapping fish

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They are just making up narratives now, and the media are not calling them out on it….

The Director of the CDC made an important admission during an interview today on CNN. CDC Director Rochelle Walensky stated the vaccine does not prevent COVID-19 infection, nor does it stop the vaccinated person from transmitting the infection or the delta variant. According to Director Walensky, the only benefit from the vaccine now is ,presumably ,that it reduces the severity of symptoms.

First of all, getting vaccinated DOES reduce the chance of getting infected by about 40% according to Israel, which has a high (60%) vaccination rate. Obviously not foolproof but MUCH better than paper masks.

Secondly, "presumably" reduce the severity of symptoms? I've been following Divoc-91, and in every nation where the vulnerable are vaccinated, the "case rate" and "death rate" have taken a sharp divergence. There is no "presumption" here.

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If a vaccinated and non-vaccinated person have the same capacity to carry, shed and transmit the virus – with or without symptoms
Not true, according to the data
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– then what difference does a vaccination passport or vaccination ID make?

According to the CDC TODAY, both the vaxxed and non-vaxxed person walking into a restaurant, store, group, venue or workplace present the exact same risk to other people there, so how does the presentation of proof of vaccine make any difference? WATCH:

(UPDATE – Google removed the video, I replaced with Rumble)

Well, I watched it, and THAT IS NOT WHAT SHE SAID.

What she said was IF you're infectedou have the same chance of passing on the virus.

This wouldn't be the first time that some have lied about data, or what people have said about data. Not a big fan of the CDC, bu when you have to outright lie to make your point (like the guy who said that there was no difference in fatality rates between the vaccinated and unvaccinated, and used SAFETY DATA) then obviously you have no point to make.

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Additionally, her entire statement makes no sense. There is no evidence that vaccinated asymptomatic carriers are asymptomatic because of the vaccine. There are likely just as many asymptomatic non-vaccinated carriers. The data shows an equally distributed infection rate regardless of vaccination rate,
WHERE IS THE DATA? Because the data that *I* saw sys no such thing
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which is simultaneously admitted by Direcor Walensky
BIG FAT LIE
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which, as an outcome, is an admission that undercuts the entire argument for compulsory vaccines.
except there was no such "admission".

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The reverse is also evident in the data. There are just as many vaxxed carriers who are symptomatic (ie. sick), as there are un-vaxxed carriers who are symptomatic (ie. sick). The percentage of vaxxed and non-vaxxed people hospitalized it [is] identical to the vaxxed/non-vaxxed population around the hospital.
NO LINK TO DATA

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In regional populations with extremely high vaccination rates, the COVID infection rate continues unabated. The percentage of vaccinated people hospitalized is identical to the percentage of people vaccinated in the community.
NO LINK TO DATA

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In Gibraltar, 99% of the population vaccinated; COVID infection rate climbs. In Iceland over 75% of population vaccinated; infection rate climbs. Singapore and Israel show the same thing [Data Sets Here]. So what value is the vaccination passport?


This is the link to the "data set"

https://nworeport.me/2021/07/30/gibraltar-iceland-see-massive-covid-sp
ike-despite-over-90-of-population-vaccinated
/

The very first thing that this "data set" posts is ...

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Countries across globe see similar phenomenon where the vaccinated are being reinfected with Covid. Stats prove vaccine actually spreading disease!


Wow, how's THAT for objectivity? (NOT)

So, let me pose a thought experiment:

If everyone in a nation was vaccinated, then 100% of the infected, and 100% of everyone in the hospital, and 100% of deaths would have been vaccinated.

Does that mean that vaccines don't work?

Of course not!

What you need to do is make a comparison between the infection, hospitalization, and death rates between the vaccinated and unvaccinated population. Not only that, but the compared populations have to be THE SAME in all other respects: age, comorbidities, income, sex, race, housing situation and jobs, etc.

And in a nation where nearly everyone is vaccinated, or the vaccinated subpopulation is very different than the unvaccinated one, that comparison is very difficult.



Infortunately Divoc-91 doesn't break out Gibralter separately, but we CAN look at Iceland.

So looking at Divoc-91, the case rate per 100,000 peaked sharply at 30 whne the Delta variant hit, but the death rate remains stubbornly at zero.

Yanno, these people aren't even TRYING to make sense of the data.

I'm not going to go further into the link bc none of it makes sense.

Now, here's the kicker:

I ACTUALLY AGREE THAT VACCINE MANDATES DON'T MAKE SENSE.

Protection from INFECTION is not so stellar that it offers OTHER PEOPLE much benefit, and - SO FAR -the vaccine offers pretty good protection from sever disease.

But when people have to lie and distort to make their point, they lose just as much credibility as Fauci does when HE lies and distorts.

And this relentless focus by the CDC and M$M on "cases" and not
deaths" is yet another lie and distortion.

I've been watching the death rate. It's gone up from 0.1 to 0.14 (compared to 1.4 pre-vaccination peak).



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Monday, August 9, 2021 7:52 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



I don't think the story is written yet on delta and deaths. And I'm not going to predict which way this is going to go either, since I don't have enuf information.

But a quick look at the NYTimes summaries of stats indicates that 'cases' as a category (deadly new ... thread) has gone up let's call it ~115%, while 'deaths' as a category has gone up about 90% at this point.


Here are the stats:

United States ›
Avg. on Aug. 5 14-day change
New cases 100,199 +119%
New deaths 439 +74%


United States ›
Avg. on Aug. 7 14-day change
New cases 108,513 +111% cases trajectory last two weeks
New deaths 506 +89% deaths trajectory last two weeks


United States ›
Avg. on Aug. 8 14-day change
New cases 110,360 +112% cases trajectory last two weeks
New deaths 516 +92% deaths trajectory last two weeks



So 'deaths' is catching up to 'cases', with the time lag I expect between the 2.

The ~50% 'unvaccinated' skews heavily to POC and the young. Perhaps the increased vulnerability of POC to death from COVID-19 is balancing out the decreased vulnerability to death of young people from COVID-19 so that it looks like there may not be a youth benefit in the over-all stats during this wave ... but it's "Too close to call at this time."

What do you estimate the 'previously infected' is? I've seen numbers up to 30%, but that seems to be an outlier. Spitball 15%.

That means that roughly 2/3 of the country is protected at some level from COVID-19 either from a vax or from previous infection, but 1/3 still is not. So the delta-variant wave should be making a quick run-through of about 1/3 of the US.

It's too early for a victory lap, imo.

I expect COVID-19 outright deaths to be 3/4 of a million after delta runs through.

And I expect there'll be a long-term country-wide health consequence from previous COVID-19 infections - in the form of long-COVID neurological and medical deficits.

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Monday, August 9, 2021 8:49 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I think it's around 15% previously infected from the various serological tests that have been done, averaging areas with high infection rates (eg. NYC) and lower infection rates (eg, upstate NY)

You may be right about "too early to declare victory".

Deaths are going up ... not a whole lot, in absolute terms, but if I compare it to the "cases" of four weeks ago (counting for lag time between "cases" and "deaths") the number of deaths per infected comes out the same as the previous variant peak about 200 days (7 months) ago.

Curiously, in THAT peak the peak "cases" and peak "deaths" were about cotemporaneous.

Anyway, I will continue to monitor "deaths" as the more meaningful figure. The experience of other nations with high vaccination rates is that the higher the vaccination rate, the lower the death rate.

Israel, which has a vaccination rate of about 60%, had 0.0074 deaths per case before vaccination and 0.0025 deaths per case now. Iceland, with near-universal vaccination, has zero deaths per case.

EDITED TO ADD: When I get my data from Divoc-91, I report what they call "cases", but in reality what they call "cases" may be "infections", prolly confirmed by Covid PCR test. Not the same. They also report "hospitalizations". I'll look thru their website more closely and see if I can clarify their definitions.

So far, except for Israel, I haven't seen any "vaccinated v unvaccinated" infection rates and infection death rates. so we're dealing with bulk figures that lump a lot of different categories together.



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Monday, August 9, 2021 9:09 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I've got things to do today.

No time to waste mulling over fake made up numbers for me.

Knock yourselves out.

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Monday, August 9, 2021 12:45 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Ron Paul: I will shut down the Senate over any COVID bill whatsoever

Ron Filipkowski @RonFilipkowski
Rand Paul today: “It’s time for us to resist. They can’t arrest all of us .. No one should follow the CDC.” He then says he will introduce amendments to defund any govt agency that seeks to enforce CDC guidelines, including schools.

9:11 PM · Aug 8, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1424553962116718595

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, August 9, 2021 12:51 PM

THG


Now he's dead...

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Monday, August 9, 2021 2:34 PM

DREAMTROVE



Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I think COVID-19 is a bioweapon intermediate that got out before its time. My question is who owns it? I'd be really curious what you think of that.

But yeah - your story. I'm OK with you spam posting.



Yeah probably. Anyway, it's the weapon of the fifth international, cult of baphomet sabbatean saudi zionazis, whatever you want to call them. Rationalist commies. People who make bioweapons in China and want to take over the world and reduce world population, who also happen to own our entire media, including (now) FOX.

Spam wall later, when I have time, in its own thread

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Monday, August 9, 2021 2:35 PM

DREAMTROVE


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Originally posted by THG:
Now he's dead...






got it. they killed him


btw, my apologies for calling you THUGR, I thought it was your name, Siggie used it.

I don't have a partisan take here. I think y'all crazy.

Speaking of which, what happened to River6213 and associated sockpuppets?


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Monday, August 9, 2021 3:52 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



"T" has had a number of handles: T, THUGGR (I think that's how it's spelled), THG, JJ ... and perhaps a few that I've forgotten. Maybe it's your choice what you call him.

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Monday, August 9, 2021 4:15 PM

DREAMTROVE


yeah THGGR was how I spelt it before, but then I saw siggy had said THUGR.

IDK, I try, but some people are just on autohate before they even see whether or not they disagree with you. I thought anyway that it was a republican, but it's acting like it's a democrat. Now completely meaningless on almost all forums, none of which have any americans on them.

I thank it for the reminder of my greenness tho

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Monday, August 9, 2021 6:11 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Nevermind

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Monday, August 9, 2021 7:18 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So, back to the vaccine.

I thought to check the vaccination rates of the various USA states v the "new cases one week average". Two of the states with the lowest vaccination rates are in the top five "new cases" rates, and DC plus one State with the highest vaccination rates are in the lower end of the case rates. It's not a 1:1 inverse correlation and would require maybe some rank analysis, but it does look like the vaccines do lower the transmission.

I should also look at "new deaths, one week average" and see how that shakes out. Been busy tho, haven't had time to give it the scrutiny that it deserves.

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Monday, August 9, 2021 9:20 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Ron Paul: I will shut down the Senate over any COVID bill whatsoever

Ron Filipkowski @RonFilipkowski
Rand Paul today: “It’s time for us to resist. They can’t arrest all of us .. No one should follow the CDC.” He then says he will introduce amendments to defund any govt agency that seeks to enforce CDC guidelines, including schools.

9:11 PM · Aug 8, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1424553962116718595

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Good.

Fuck your vaccine.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Monday, August 9, 2021 11:38 PM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Good.

Fuck your vaccine.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."



I'm pretty sure this is the only Firefly™ comment I've see so far. I think the entire attitude of everyone in the show would be undeniably clear on this point. Even Simon, who afterall had been through all of this already.

I also don't doubt that the thespians who created this, whedon included, haven't become goosestepping gigacucks in support of the global extermination.

That's the paradox of american theater. it's run by gay jewish outcasts of the borg cube, but is portraying chad heroes who solve problems and survive, because people who write books wrote the stories they're borrowing from.

keep the shiny side up

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Tuesday, August 10, 2021 2:56 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

The Delta Variant Could End the Chinese Communist Party

By
Gordon Chang

Published 5 days ago

COVID-19 is ravaging China.

The Delta variant is spreading across the country fast, and Beijing has no answer to the new strain other than draconian, totalitarian brute-force measures—and blaming foreigners.

Millions of Chinese residents are now in various forms of lockdown. The recent infections constitute the most widespread coronavirus outbreak since the disease first hit China, sometime in late 2019.

The new flare-up, which quickly slipped beyond the control of the authorities, is undermining core Communist Party propaganda narratives.

Chinese authorities trace the latest series of infections to a flight landing at the Nanjing Lukou International Airport from Russia on July 20. Nine Chinese airport workers tested positive after cleaning the plane.

Since then, the disease has ripped through China, infecting people in almost half of the country’s 33 provinces and provincial-level cities and regions. “Delta has broken through the country’s virus defenses, which are some of the strictest in the world,” notes Bloomberg News.

Delta is now appearing in places with no reported cases for months. Of particular concern for the regime is the cluster in Wuhan, the original epicenter of the disease. The city’s infection-free status has been, as Bloomberg reports, “a source of pride in China.”

Covid has also reached Beijing, the heart of Chinese power. There, travel restrictions are strict. Tourists are now not admitted to the city. Only “essential travelers” are allowed in, but only if they produce negative Covid tests. Government and state enterprise employees may not leave the city. Beijing residents have been told not to travel elsewhere “unless necessary.”

There have been more than 30 outbreaks around China after the initial cases in Wuhan of last year, including a particularly devastating flare-up hitting Guangdong province ports beginning in late May. Draconian measures were seemingly successful in isolating China’s COVID-19 cases, however. The Party, beginning early last year, used its handling of the virus as proof of the superiority of its system over, among others, “Western democracy.”

Totalitarian-style tactics, unfortunately for China’s rulers, have not worked with the hardy Delta variant. The coronavirus, unlike other pathogens, has become more transmissible and more virulent over time. Delta, as a result, is now killing off the triumphalism of the Communist Party.

Therefore, a nationwide spread of the disease is a potentially existential threat to the Party. At the moment, Delta is running through many societies around the world, but China appears to be the only one where the variant could end the ruling group’s tenure.

Therefore, it should be no surprise that Party propagandists went berserk for a few days last month when Bloomberg named the U.S. No. 1 in the world in its “Covid Resilience Ranking.” “What a joke,” People’s Daily, the most authoritative publication in China, remarked.

Denigration of the U.S. cannot solve the Party’s main problem, however. None of China’s five coronavirus vaccines are particularly effective.

Beijing, claiming to have administered more than 1.5 billion doses of its vaccines in China, reports 40% of Chinese citizens are fully vaccinated. China’s Center for Disease Control and Prevention says Chinese vaccines “can still have good preventative and protective effects” against the Delta strain, but that seems unlikely as countries turn their backs on the Chinese jabs if they have an alternative. Most of the new cases in Nanjing were vaccinated.

No society will fully recover from this disease until it has an effective and safe vaccine, and Beijing is a long way off from developing one of them, even though its researchers had months of head start in coming up with a good jab.

Until China can administer an effective vaccine across the country, its regime will have no choice but to fall back on propaganda. Narrative control has been key from the very beginning of the epidemic. This became clear when the Communist Party on January 26 of last year announced the formation of its Central Leading Small Group for Work to Counter the New Coronavirus Infection Pneumonia Epidemic, China’s task force. There was only one public health official on the nine-person roster, which was heavy with political hacks and propaganda officials. The Party’s propaganda czar, Wang Huning, was vice-chair. Maintaining control of the narrative and Xi Jinping’s dictatorial rule were—and remain—the Leading Group’s primary goals.

The Party’s propagandists evidently believe blaming foreigners for the Delta outbreak is good politics. They were quick to say the origin of the most recent contagion was passengers on the plane from Russia to Nanjing, for instance, implying Russia was the source. Media also attributes a cluster of cases in Zhengzhou to two hospital cleaners in contact with patients from abroad.

MORE AT https://www.19fortyfive.com/2021/08/the-delta-variant-could-end-the-ch
inese-communist-party
/

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Tuesday, August 10, 2021 6:15 AM

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From August of 2020: How the Pandemic Defeated America

A virus has brought the world’s most powerful country to its knees.

How did it come to this? A virus a thousand times smaller than a dust mote has humbled and humiliated the planet’s most powerful nation. America has failed to protect its people, leaving them with illness and financial ruin. It has lost its status as a global leader. It has careened between inaction and ineptitude. The breadth and magnitude of its errors are difficult, in the moment, to truly fathom.

In the first half of 2020, SARS-CoV-2—the new coronavirus behind the disease COVID-19—infected 10 million people around the world and killed about half a million. But few countries have been as severely hit as the United States, which has just 4 percent of the world’s population but a quarter of its confirmed COVID-19 cases and deaths. These numbers are estimates. The actual toll, though undoubtedly higher, is unknown, because the richest country in the world still lacks sufficient testing to accurately count its sick citizens.

Despite ample warning, the U.S. squandered every possible opportunity to control the coronavirus. And despite its considerable advantages—immense resources, biomedical might, scientific expertise—it floundered. While countries as different as South Korea, Thailand, Iceland, Slovakia, and Australia acted decisively to bend the curve of infections downward, the U.S. achieved merely a plateau in the spring, which changed to an appalling upward slope in the summer. “The U.S. fundamentally failed in ways that were worse than I ever could have imagined,” Julia Marcus, an infectious-disease epidemiologist at Harvard Medical School, told me.

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20200803115929/https://www.theatlantic.com
/magazine/archive/2020/09/coronavirus-american-failure/614191
/


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, August 10, 2021 6:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Good.

Fuck your vaccine.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."



I'm pretty sure this is the only Firefly™ comment I've see so far. I think the entire attitude of everyone in the show would be undeniably clear on this point. Even Simon, who afterall had been through all of this already.

I also don't doubt that the thespians who created this, whedon included, haven't become goosestepping gigacucks in support of the global extermination.

That's the paradox of american theater. it's run by gay jewish outcasts of the borg cube, but is portraying chad heroes who solve problems and survive, because people who write books wrote the stories they're borrowing from.

keep the shiny side up

You know what? You sound like Jayne. A Firefly episode would have Jayne refusing to be vaccinated. River, who is now the pilot, would lift off without Jayne, leaving him to be killed by Reavers. River would justify to Mal not going back for Jayne: "Either the virus or the Reavers will eat him, but the Reavers are quicker." Mal can't argue with that logic. Mal never much liked Jayne, anyway.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, August 10, 2021 6:36 AM

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Gov. Ron DeSantis threatens to withhold the paychecks of school board members who defy his mask ban
Business Insider

Florida governor's office says state could withhold salaries of officials who enact school mask mandates
CNN

Florida Gov. DeSantis to school officials: Enforce mask mandate, get your salaries withheld
Yahoo News

Opinion | Why our school district is defying Florida's ban on mask mandates — even if it means we lose funding
The Washington Post


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Tuesday, August 10, 2021 8:06 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Sometimes an earlier post doesn't show up until much later, which is how I missed this one of yours. We both addressed the same article, just in different threads.


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
KIKI: I know that YOU know that the reporting on Covid-19 is entirely distorted, and that you would make mincemeat of the following article, if you bothered to read it at all, since the print version is only good for wrapping fish

Quote:

They are just making up narratives now, and the media are not calling them out on it….

The Director of the CDC made an important admission during an interview today on CNN. CDC Director Rochelle Walensky stated the vaccine does not prevent COVID-19 infection, nor does it stop the vaccinated person from transmitting the infection or the delta variant. According to Director Walensky, the only benefit from the vaccine now is ,presumably ,that it reduces the severity of symptoms.

First of all, getting vaccinated DOES reduce the chance of getting infected by about 40% according to Israel, which has a high (60%) vaccination rate. Obviously not foolproof but MUCH better than paper masks.

Secondly, "presumably" reduce the severity of symptoms? I've been following Divoc-91, and in every nation where the vulnerable are vaccinated, the "case rate" and "death rate" have taken a sharp divergence. There is no "presumption" here.

Quote:

If a vaccinated and non-vaccinated person have the same capacity to carry, shed and transmit the virus – with or without symptoms
Not true, according to the data
Quote:

– then what difference does a vaccination passport or vaccination ID make?

According to the CDC TODAY, both the vaxxed and non-vaxxed person walking into a restaurant, store, group, venue or workplace present the exact same risk to other people there, so how does the presentation of proof of vaccine make any difference? WATCH:

(UPDATE – Google removed the video, I replaced with Rumble)

Well, I watched it, and THAT IS NOT WHAT SHE SAID.

What she said was IF you're infectedou have the same chance of passing on the virus.

This wouldn't be the first time that some have lied about data, or what people have said about data. Not a big fan of the CDC, bu when you have to outright lie to make your point (like the guy who said that there was no difference in fatality rates between the vaccinated and unvaccinated, and used SAFETY DATA) then obviously you have no point to make.

Quote:

Additionally, her entire statement makes no sense. There is no evidence that vaccinated asymptomatic carriers are asymptomatic because of the vaccine. There are likely just as many asymptomatic non-vaccinated carriers. The data shows an equally distributed infection rate regardless of vaccination rate,
WHERE IS THE DATA? Because the data that *I* saw sys no such thing
Quote:

which is simultaneously admitted by Direcor Walensky
BIG FAT LIE
Quote:

which, as an outcome, is an admission that undercuts the entire argument for compulsory vaccines.
except there was no such "admission".

Quote:

The reverse is also evident in the data. There are just as many vaxxed carriers who are symptomatic (ie. sick), as there are un-vaxxed carriers who are symptomatic (ie. sick). The percentage of vaxxed and non-vaxxed people hospitalized it [is] identical to the vaxxed/non-vaxxed population around the hospital.
NO LINK TO DATA

Quote:

In regional populations with extremely high vaccination rates, the COVID infection rate continues unabated. The percentage of vaccinated people hospitalized is identical to the percentage of people vaccinated in the community.
NO LINK TO DATA

Quote:

In Gibraltar, 99% of the population vaccinated; COVID infection rate climbs. In Iceland over 75% of population vaccinated; infection rate climbs. Singapore and Israel show the same thing [Data Sets Here]. So what value is the vaccination passport?


This is the link to the "data set"

https://nworeport.me/2021/07/30/gibraltar-iceland-see-massive-covid-sp
ike-despite-over-90-of-population-vaccinated
/

The very first thing that this "data set" posts is ...

Quote:

Countries across globe see similar phenomenon where the vaccinated are being reinfected with Covid. Stats prove vaccine actually spreading disease!


Wow, how's THAT for objectivity? (NOT)

So, let me pose a thought experiment:

If everyone in a nation was vaccinated, then 100% of the infected, and 100% of everyone in the hospital, and 100% of deaths would have been vaccinated.

Does that mean that vaccines don't work?

Of course not!

What you need to do is make a comparison between the infection, hospitalization, and death rates between the vaccinated and unvaccinated population. Not only that, but the compared populations have to be THE SAME in all other respects: age, comorbidities, income, sex, race, housing situation and jobs, etc.

And in a nation where nearly everyone is vaccinated, or the vaccinated subpopulation is very different than the unvaccinated one, that comparison is very difficult.



Infortunately Divoc-91 doesn't break out Gibralter separately, but we CAN look at Iceland.

So looking at Divoc-91, the case rate per 100,000 peaked sharply at 30 whne the Delta variant hit, but the death rate remains stubbornly at zero.

Yanno, these people aren't even TRYING to make sense of the data.

I'm not going to go further into the link bc none of it makes sense.

Now, here's the kicker:

I ACTUALLY AGREE THAT VACCINE MANDATES DON'T MAKE SENSE.

Protection from INFECTION is not so stellar that it offers OTHER PEOPLE much benefit, and - SO FAR -the vaccine offers pretty good protection from sever disease.

But when people have to lie and distort to make their point, they lose just as much credibility as Fauci does when HE lies and distorts.

And this relentless focus by the CDC and M$M on "cases" and not
deaths" is yet another lie and distortion.

I've been watching the death rate. It's gone up from 0.1 to 0.14 (compared to 1.4 pre-vaccination peak).



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THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.











Quote:

new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63473&p=53
Moving on to the other side of the propaganda equation - how is intentionally bad reporting being used to propagandize people about COVID-19 and the various vaccines?

At the moment I'm not going to address the complete nonsense like 'vaccines change your DNA'. I'm going to focus on the reporting that PRETENDS to be based on objective facts, that does, in fact completely misrepresent reality.

I already addressed Signy's post where Berenson egregiously claimed that
Quote:

The pivotal clinical trial for the @pfizer #Covid vaccine shows it does nothing to reduce the overall risk of death. ZERO.
by using numbers from an altogether different study that had nothing to do with deaths from COVID-19. At all.


Here's some more propaganda.

Quote:

Gibraltar, Iceland See MASSIVE Covid Spike Despite Over 90% of Population Vaccinated
Countries across globe see similar phenomenon where the vaccinated are being reinfected with Covid. Stats prove vaccine actually spreading disease!
https://nworeport.me/2021/07/30/gibraltar-iceland-see-massive-covid-sp
ike-despite-over-90-of-population-vaccinated
/

So how massive is this massive spike?
Cases in Gibraltar went up from 2 to 30 ... ... not per capita, in the entire country. (FT.com/covid19).
Cases in Iceland have gone up from about 2 to about 116 ... not per capita, in the entire country. ( https://ourworldindata.org/)
By ignoring the denominator (2 cases) the authors could claim a 5700% increase in Iceland and a 1400% increase in Gibraltar, while ignoring the fact that the total number of cases is really, really low. IS this a MASSIVE COVID-19 spike as reported? Hardly.

BTW, not reporting the denominator is a very common method of inflating perceptions. I'll provide a mathematical example: in a country with ZERO COVID-19 cases, one case is a literally infinitely higher percentage than before. If I start out with one case, and increase to 11 cases, and while this is a completely minuscule number of cases in any country in the world, it calculates out to a 1,000% increase. And so on.



To get back to the same article, here's the headline again Gibraltar, Iceland See MASSIVE Covid Spike Despite Over 90% of Population Vaccinated. The only problem with the headline is that IT'S NOT TRUE.

In Iceland, +90% of its ELIGIBLE population has received at least one vaccine dose - eligible people are over 16 years old. But out of the total population only 74% are fully vaccinated ('our world in data'), not even remotely close to +90% as reported.
Similar untrue reporting has happened in stories about Israel for example (posted earlier). Being loosey goosey with the units - 'percent of eligible population' being reported as 'percent of total population' - is another way the authors are actively lying to the readers.

There's more, which I hope to address later, including this ridiculous claim "Stats prove vaccine actually spreading disease!".


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Tuesday, August 10, 2021 8:34 PM

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Kamikaze anti-vaxers

The task of persuading the great majority of the vaccine refusers is almost impossible. As far as I can see, right-wing blogs and sites are still just doubling down on the same old misinformation and conspiratardia. The vaccines are killing huge numbers of people and may even be a plot to reduce the world’s population by killing or sterilizing people. It’s a conspiracy of globalists / Jews / Satanists / pedophiles (yes, really) to enslave us all. Doctors are exaggerating covid-19 death numbers because they somehow make money that way. Biden is a pedophile and Fauci is an evil monster who conspired with China to create the virus in the first place. Most of the people now getting hospitalized are vaccinated, not unvaccinated. Hydroxychloroquine works (yes, some of them are still pushing that) and the vaccines don’t. The fight against masks and vaccines is an existential struggle against descending tyranny. Republican leaders who now urge vaccination are “cucks”, lackeys of the vast conspiracy. You need to spend some time reading this stuff in their own words, not mediated through left-wing paraphrases, to grasp how hopeless the task of coaxing the hard-core wingnuts out of this seething maelstrom of bullshit really is. It’s become part of their tribal identity.

The one thing that, so far, does seem to be able to bring them around is seeing their unvaccinated relatives or close friends die of covid-19. But each such death convinces only a few other people, so to reach tens of millions of anti-vaxers would take millions of deaths. (Actually, one death would convince them, but Trump has already been vaccinated. Too bad. His messy, brutal, fatal hospital stay would be good for America. )

More at https://angrybearblog.com/2021/08/kamikaze-anti-vaxers

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Tuesday, August 10, 2021 8:51 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nobody cares what angrybitchblogger has to say.



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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:52 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


"Tax the Unvaccinated"

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2021/08/11/tax-the-unvaxxed/

Being a smoker I should have seen that one coming. But instead of taxing smokers into being poor, you're just taxing people into being poor instead.

Would that be somewhere around STEP 3.5 just after trying to give free shit away to get vaccinated but before STEP 4?

I want to say yes, but we're already in STEP 4.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
LA Times should take more care when picking their headlines.

This story is still very much STEP 4, but after the headline it's not nearly as bad as the
others that I've posted. Hell... they even go out of their way to say they disagree with
requiring vaccinations for essential services like grocery shopping.

At least everybody in the Legacy Media hasn't gone full Hitler over Covid... yet.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-08-05/editorial-no-more-pla
ying-around-for-the-unvaccinated


Quote:

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

One blowhard mouthing off on a channel that even you say gets no viewers ...
... this is just more of an attempt to stampede people, to "manufacture consent" as the phrase goes.

I'd wait to see if the idea was getting traction anywhere important before I figured it was a sealed fate.





How about now, Kiki?

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
But wait... There's more... STEP 4



https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/04/opinions/de-blasio-require-vaccines-fil
ipovic/index.html


Quote:

In New York City, Mayor Bill de Blasio correctly said masking is a secondary concern when "the whole ball game is vaccination." And he is acting on it, announcing Tuesday that the city will require proof of vaccination in the form of a health pass for entrance into gyms, restaurants, and indoor entertainment venues. The city will begin enforcing the program -- the first of its kind in a US city -- on September 13, he said.

It's a necessary and overdue step. But why aren't more cities and states taking it? And more importantly: Why isn't President Joe Biden?



Quote:

The latest example is New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who on Monday said that he is asking private restaurants and bars to require proof of vaccination for entry. He's right -- they should. But why place the burden of creating sensible public health mandates on private businesses? Cuomo is, after all, the governor. If he believes, as he says, that it is in the "best interests" of these businesses -- and ostensibly the public -- to have inessential indoor events reserved for the vaccinated, why not make that the policy of New York state?


Quote:

I can't even finish this article. It's so fucking bad.

That's a rarity. I can even make it through most Vox and Salon articles I read. At least they're usually unintentionally funny.

This dumb bitch actually thinks that calling them "health passes" instead of "vaccine passports" will make them work.

I bet this no-doubt-woke-as-fuck-dummy doesn't even realize that what she's suggestion means that almost no black people in New York would have any freedoms at all if it came true.

Or maybe she does and she doesn't care. Democrats are racists after all.



Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
https://www.bloombergquint.com/gadfly/as-delta-spreads-covid-vaccine-m
andates-are-an-urgent-necessity


Keep pretending I'm making this stuff up.




Quote:

BELOW: NOT one blowhard from CNN.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/07/31/cdc_director_walens
ky_on_vaccine_mandate_thats_something_the_administration_is_looking_into.html


Quote:

Walensky on vaccine mandates: "You know, that's something that I think the administration is looking into. It's something that I think we're looking to see approval from the vaccine. Overall, I think, in general, I am all for more vaccination. But I have nothing further to say on that, except that we're looking into those policies."

"As that science evolves, I evolve, with our -- with the CDC, the guidance," Walensky said. "What I will say is, I continue to be humbled by this virus. I have no interest in continuing mask guidance. And the best way to stop a new variant from spreading is to have less virus out there."






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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."



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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Antivax Memes

1. Assuming the sole criterion for whether to take the vaccine is its effect on your own health—not taking into account whether you may infect someone else. Antivax people nearly always justify their choice in terms of their perceived risk of getting Covid and the personal risk posed by the vaccine and not in terms of the vaccine’s potential role (or lack of it) in reducing the extent and duration of the pandemic.

2. Bodily violation: resistance to accepting a foreign substance into their body. Also resistant to pressure from others, such as employers and government, to allow this substance to cross the “skin line”.

3. Personal responsibility for health. Some antivax people think that how sick you get from Covid depends on your general state of health, itself perhaps the result of the measures you’ve taken to protect it. If you stick to what you think is a healthy diet, if you work out, or if you just think you just have “good genes”, you do not think you are at risk and need to vaccinate against it. Some strands of alternative health are strongly invested in the view that there is no randomness to disease: if you get sick it’s because you failed to cleanse, build up your immune system, tune your energy or otherwise do what you should have done. Conversely, if you’ve followed the program you’re not at risk and don’t have to vaccinate.

4. Apparent inability to think probabilistically. A common remark is that you can get Covid even if you’re vaccinated, so what’s the point? Risk is perceived in binary terms: it exists or it doesn’t.

5. Fatalism. Whatever happens happens. There’s no point to getting vaccinated; you’ll get sick and die sooner or later anyway.

6. Distrust. These are experimental vaccines that haven’t been approved by the FDA yet. And even when the FDA says it’s OK, who believes them? The government and the media lie with abandon. The vaccines are also being pushed by corporations that just want to make as much money as they can.

https://angrybearblog.com/2021/08/antivax-memes

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Thursday, August 12, 2021 8:46 AM

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The Left can't meme because the Left doesn't understand what a meme is.



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Trump counties are no-go areas for vaccination
https://acasignups.net/21/08/11/us-covid19-vaccination-levels-county-o
ver-time



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Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:38 PM

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Good.

Don't come here.



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Friday, August 13, 2021 9:56 AM

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Paul Krugman has a piece in the New York Times that offers an explanation for why Republicans oppose every measure—vaccination, masking, limits on indoor gathering—that could reverse the pandemic. He says it’s because the Democrats support them and that Biden would take credit for reduced caseloads, hospitalizations and deaths. Since owning the libs is the guiding philosophy of Republican politicians and their minions, such actions have to be fought at all costs.

Paul Krugman is wrong because pandemic denial is a feature of the far right worldwide. You can find it in England, France, Germany, Poland, Brazil and points between. Explanations based on US political dynamics are insufficient (although they might be correct in a more limited way).

Here is my candidate: The pandemic gives the lie to the rigid individualism that draws hard lines around each person’s body and mind—the “you are the king in your own castle” idea. It’s the bedrock of such notions as personal responsibility being the sole determinant of life events, unrestricted individual autonomy and the belief that collective action is an assault on “freedom”. Actually, we are interconnected in a myriad of ways, culturally, economically and, as the coronavirus demonstrates, physiologically. We are really a “we” whether we like it or not.

Far right politics is based on hard line individualism. So is a strand of alternative health, which promotes the notion that it is within the power of each person to “choose” to be free of disease by following one or another program. If the pandemic refutes these simplistic ideas, their response is denial.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210811040540/https://www.nytimes.com/202
1/08/09/opinion/climate-denial-covid-denial.html


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Conservative politicians like to talk about morality. Over the years, they’ve portrayed various kinds of people as degenerate, dissolute, or reckless. But there’s one constituency these politicians won’t criticize: people who refuse vaccination against COVID-19. Vaccine refusers endanger their communities and the country, but they’re part of the Republican base. So instead of confronting them, Republican politicians are excusing the bad behavior, retreating to moral subjectivism, and trying to block anyone, including private organizations, from imposing any standard of personal responsibility.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/08/covid-vaccine-refusers-imm
oral-gop.html


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Friday, August 13, 2021 10:26 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Fuck you Second.

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Saturday, August 14, 2021 7:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck you Second.

They are coming to take your job, 6ix, the job you don't want and quit:

Fear of disease was used to keep out the Irish, Italians, Greeks, Jews, and Mexicans. Now it is used to keep out the Guatemalans, Hondurans, and Salvadorans.

For as long as there have been immigrants and refugees coming to the United States, there have been those who tried to keep them out by labeling them as diseased, infected, or ailing.

Today, Republicans—including those concerned that the white population of the U.S. is declining, while the Latino population continues to grow—are using fear of COVID-19 and the Delta variant as an excuse to keep out refugees from Central America and to shift blame for the rapidly rising infection and hospitalization rates in red states where Republican leaders have resisted basic public-health measures.

It’s ghoulish work, but Republicans with an eye on the midterm elections next year are up to the task.

Sen. Ted Cruz recently told Fox News that President Biden was “trying to play politics with the pandemic” by issuing COVID mandates “while he releases COVID-positive immigrants by the thousands into the state of Texas.” Last month, Gov. Greg Abbott also went on the GOP’s favorite propaganda channel to accuse the Biden administration of “allowing (a) free pass into the United States of people with a high probability of COVID, and then spreading that COVID in our communities.”

Even outsiders are getting into the act—particularly those who may intend to run for president in 2024.

“I can tell you, whatever variants are around the world, they're coming across that southern border,” Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said at a press conference.

That’s the fear. It’s based on anxiety about the unknown, and the uncertainty human beings might feel toward others whose intentions are unclear.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-plague-invasion-at-the-border-is-jus
t-gop-propaganda


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Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:50 AM

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Krugman is usually wrong, but there's not a pandemic. Pandemic denial isn't a crime, it's a recognition of reality. Holocaust denial, of this holocaust, is a feature of the far left worldwide. Holocaust denial has always been a feature of the far left. Holocausts are a feature of the far left worldwide. The Holocaust was a feature of the far left. The holocaust is what we're experiencing, only times 1000. I bring this up because you implemented the rhetorical comparison.

There is a rugged individualist on the right, but there's also christianity which is pretty collectivist. I think some element of collectivism is probably a good idea in defeating this beast, which is The Beast.

The Beast has just been killing people. Exterminating people in gas chambers. It's important to remember that on the one week of the most obvious direct genocide here, Cuomo didn't kill 30,000 New Yorkers by himself, he endorsed a policy, that DeBlasio used to kill 30,000 New Yorkers, that came from on high, from the Beast, and that was not an isolated incident, but pattern of a larger genocide. There was not a pandemic. The bioweapon fizzled. But there was a genocide. Now there's a biowar.

Since the cure for the non-existent plague will kill everyone, there will be no one left but those who oppose it. I think the left hasn't thought this through. They are defining the future world as extremely far right. We end up with Mad Max out of this. Or Firefly.

The left position, if taken in Firefly terms is exactly the Alliance right now, right down to the Pax.

Don't get your ego wrapped up in. Just see it before the line is drawn.


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Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:

The left position, if taken in Firefly terms is exactly the Alliance right now, right down to the Pax.

That can't be the right analogy because the Alliance used Pax covertly, unlike vaccinations which are widely publicized. The existence of Pax was kept a big secret from the people who were breathing it. The dead Alliance scientist, eaten by cannibals, Doctor Caron, did not intend to kill the people on planet Miranda, but intended to pacify them/tranquilize them/neutralize their testosterone. Instead, Pax put everyone, except Reavers, into a coma. Doctor Caron was certainly surprised, and killed, by what Pax did. The movie didn't bother to explain why a coma, other than Joss Whedon needed Pax to be a movie magic spell gone wrong right out of a Harry Potter movie. If Joss did not kill a whole planet with Pax just for the drama, he would not have had a reason to make a movie. (Science fiction movies overuse the theme of widespread death to motivate stories. Alien invasion is almost as frequently used and it, too, often ends with widespread death.)

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Saturday, August 14, 2021 9:25 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Krugman is a moron.

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Monday, August 16, 2021 11:43 AM

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MARCH 9TH, 2021:

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I wonder when they're going to start bandying around the term "Bio-Terrorist" when referring to people who won't get vaccinated.



NBCNEWS, AUGUST 15TH, 2011: A new terror alert has been issued by homeland security (National Terrorism Alert Ahead of 9/11 20TH Anniversary)



We're getting REALLY close to that prediction coming true, huh?


OLD:

MIAMI HEARALD, AUGUST 2ND, 2021:

https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/leonard-pitts-jr
/article253116738.html


"Menace to Society", huh?

Not quite Bio-Terrorists yet, but we're getting close, aren't we?


Quote:

You do not endanger the lives of the many to humor the misconceptions of the few. They can’t or won’t change their minds. It’s time to recognize that.

And do it for them.



You worry about you dude.

In the meantime, I double dare you to be the one who "does it for me".

That ain't going to end up any other way than with you crying on the floor with a couple of black eyes and your yellow, soy-filled shit leaking out your drawers.





ALSO:

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
This was from a post I made on March 10th, but it was a summation of things I'd been saying way back in 2020.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
What she told her husband is what the media is suggesting that EVERYONE who is getting vaccinated do to anybody who isn't getting vaccinated. And also doing to them what she did to him.

Guilt them.

Guilting him to guilt them.



Here's the steps, if you missed me talk about them before.


STEP 1: Give the vaccine to the 50 to 60% of people who are terrified of the virus and would do anything to get it.

STEP 2: Give the vaccine to the 15 to 20% of people who are just so f-ing tired of how we've been forced to live the last year that they just want it to go away and will get vaccinated so they can get back to their old lives.

(Steps one and two will have quite a bit of overlap, both in the timeframe and/or like-mindedness.)

STEP 3: Guilt the shit of the remaining people. Not all of them will be guilted into it. But some of them will.

STEP 4: Ruin the lives of people who still refuse. This can be done, and will be done, in a variety of ways. (This can only begin once there is a legitimate surplus of vaccinations without any remaining demand for them).

One of the biggest will be by allowing corporations to force vaccinations otherwise face termination from your job (the article from South Carolina I posted earlier today is actually about a bill being considered in the state to PROHIBIT companies in the state from doing this).

But then there's just the general guilting that will never end until the media stops talking about it. If you haven't been paying attention to the way these things work online the last few years, that guilting will quickly turn to HATE. This is going to make for a very hostile work environment for many people at this point. Imagine the RWED, but in a live office setting... in every workplace around the country. (and with weak-minded, terrified people truly believing that somebody like me is threatening their life by my mere presence in front of them without having had the shots).

If they really want to make the issue bad, they'll start instituting an ID card... maybe even provide you with a handy little lanyard to wear it like a dog collar whenever you leave your home.

Worst case is that when enough people have already gotten it and the rest refuse that the Legacy Media starts referring to those who resist vaccination as Bio Terrorists.



I've pretty much been spot on for the first three steps.

Admittedly, I didn't see handing out a bunch of freebies and doing Lotteries to try to entice people before moving on to Step 4 though.

But we are clearly in Step 3.5 right now, and just as I predicted they're throwing away TONS of vaccines since nobody else wants one.

Is New Zealand is racing to prove me right on the predictions past Step 4 already?

http://www.yout.be.com/watch?v=CpPZH9AM35c

Anybody else going to join the race?



Yup.

I'd say that the weakest of us here in the States are firmly planting their feet into STEP 4.



But just like not seeing the Cash and Prizes attempts to con people into taking the jab, I surely didn't see FUCKING EVERYBODY OVER FROM STEP 1 AND STEP 2 in order to facilitate STEP 4.

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Tuesday, August 17, 2021 11:46 PM

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It's ILLEGAL To "Go Out For Fresh Air" in Australia.



This dude sounds like a literal Nazi.

That's what happens when you give the government all your guns, dummies.



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Thursday, August 19, 2021 10:20 AM

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I know my Grandpa's generation would have already put a pitchfork up this guys ass.



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