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Friday, July 9, 2021 9:19 PM

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Rev. James Altman has criticized COVID-19 vaccination efforts and pandemic-related restrictions on church gatherings as ‘Nazi-esque’ and said Democratic Party supporters were destined for Hell. The Wisconsin bishop removed the pastor who said Catholics can’t be Democrats.

Altman rose to prominence ahead of the 2020 presidential election with a fiery YouTube video in which he said Catholics can't be Democrats and that anyone who supports Democrats will burn in hell.

“(The bishop) and his diocesan representatives have spent over a year, prayerfully and fraternally, working toward a resolution related to ongoing public and ecclesial concerns of the ministry of Fr. James Altman,” the statement said. “The obligation of a Bishop is to ensure that all who serve the faithful are able to do so while unifying and building the Body of Christ.”

More at https://madison.com/news/state-regional/wisconsin-bishop-takes-rare-st
ep-of-removing-defiant-priest/article_94698475-563f-5c5b-9ac7-ff1c5c2b5334.html


A fiery YouTube video:
"Their party platform is absolutely against everything the Catholic Church teaches."



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Friday, July 9, 2021 10:52 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Fuck that vaccine. Never in a million years.


While you're at it, you can go ahead and stop pretending that it's political.

I could give two shits what Trump or Biden* have to say about it, let alone some dumb priest. And I sure as fuck couldn't care less what FOX News has to say about it either.





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Saturday, July 10, 2021 7:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck that vaccine. Never in a million years.


While you're at it, you can go ahead and stop pretending that it's political.

I could give two shits what Trump or Biden* have to say about it, let alone some dumb priest. And I sure as fuck couldn't care less what FOX News has to say about it either.

6ix, everything you write is crazy, but you're not crazy alone:

From the NYT, an interactive map showing vaccination rates down to the individual county level. And, here, From NBC is an interactive map showing 2020 elections results down to the county level. Pick any county in any red state and compare the unvaccinated rate (unvaccinated rate = 100 – vaccinated rate) with the percent of those in the county who voted for Trump (no statistical training needed).
www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-19-vaccine-doses.html
www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-elections/president-results

Why the almost direct correlation between those who voted for Trump and those who didn’t get a COVID vaccination? Is it that those least likely to have been vaccinated live in the more remote rural counties that are more likely to lack access to healthcare? Is it because most of the red states are also bible belt states? Is it just a coincidence that most of the folks in these counties just happened to be anti-vaxxers who liked Donald Trump? Is it that they didn’t get the jab because they thought that Trump wouldn’t want them to? Or, it it because Trump knew they were ignorant and appealed to this ignorance? It certainly wasn’t that they didn’t get the shot because of the science, the facts. All the science, all the facts, said get your shot. Some of these folks have been fact-free for years. Trump seemed to know this, for a fact. He called facts ‘fake news’.

More at https://angrybearblog.com/2021/07/fact-free

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Saturday, July 10, 2021 10:37 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
6ix, everything you write is crazy, but you're not crazy alone:



OK, Dr. Dipshit.

TL;DR

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Monday, July 12, 2021 11:40 AM

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US coronavirus: 'Surprising amount of death' will soon occur in these US regions from increased Covid-19 cases, expert says

As the Delta variant rapidly spreads, US hot spots have seen climbing case numbers -- and an expert warns a "surprising amount of death" from Covid-19 could soon follow.

The US is averaging about 19,455 new cases over the last seven days, a 47% increase from the week prior, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. And a third of those, CNN Medical Analyst Dr. Jonathan Reiner said, come from five hot spots: Florida, Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri and Nevada.

"In places like Missouri where ICUs are packed, you're going to see a surprising amount of death," Reiner said on Sunday.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/us-coronavirus-surprising-amo
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Monday, July 12, 2021 10:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Shut up, Ted.



https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/07/the-kids-were-safe-from-covid-
the-whole-time.html


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The kids are safe. They always have been.


No shit. Be sure to tell all the ones you fucked up with vaccines they didn't need for me, mkay?

That's not an I Told You So I want to be in charge of.

It's your fuck up, you clean up the mess.

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Wednesday, July 14, 2021 2:30 AM

JO753

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Bad lojik.

Kidz arent safe. They do not hav any special immunity, they are just better ON AVERAJ at developing an effectiv respons to this particular pathojen.

And if the world wuz only kidz, maybe C19 woud hav fizzled out long ago with nobody even notising it.

But in this version uv Earth, the kidz will go home from skool with their newly acquired infection and pass it on to their parents andor grandparents.

Then sum uv them will be orfanz.

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Wednesday, July 14, 2021 7:05 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Bad lojik.

Kidz arent safe. They do not hav any special immunity, they are just better ON AVERAJ at developing an effectiv respons to this particular pathojen.

And if the world wuz only kidz, maybe C19 woud hav fizzled out long ago with nobody even notising it.

But in this version uv Earth, the kidz will go home from skool with their newly acquired infection and pass it on to their parents andor grandparents.

Then sum uv them will be orfanz.



Wrong. Nobody dies of covid. They die of comorbidities.

The amount of children who would have ended up orphans is so fucking minuscule, more people are going to get shot in Chicago on a holiday weekend than covid would orphan children all year.

And you just pumped two vials of untested who the fuck knows what into how many millions of them because you were scared.

I hope you're able to sleep at night if anything in the world goes wrong with those kids in their lives because of an untested vaccine that they had no say in getting or not and that they never needed in the first place.

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Wednesday, July 14, 2021 3:03 PM

SIGNYM

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JO, as you know this is where SIX and I (and KIKI) part ways.

SIX is usually a pretty feet-on-the-ground guy, but this is where he loses the thread of reality.

BTW, one paper said that the reason why children do so much better, generally speaking, than adults is because SARS CoV2 latches onto the ACE receptor, and children have a lot fewer of those than adults. I never followed that up to see if it was confirmed by further study, but it did kind of stick with me.

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Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:44 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You have to believe that I'm full of shit now.

You took the shot.

I wish you all the best.

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Wednesday, July 14, 2021 10:04 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You have to believe that I'm full of shit now.

You took the shot.

I wish you all the best.

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Oh, about Covid-19 you're about 3/4 full of shit.

The part where DNC and big pharma took advantage of the pandemic? That's the part that you got right

Everything else is a giant error.

SIX, All nations have responded in one way or another to the pandemic. Are you saying that this is a global conspiracy?

And even if you think that all governments have a common interest in increasing their authority... well, OTOH, there are nations like Iran and N Korea and Russia which have a compelling geopolitical interest in denying that they have a problem. But in Iran, a large part of their leadership was decimated, and Russia's death rate is at an all-time high, and even THEY are admitting a problem and taking measures to reduce it.

Your emotions are getting in the way of your rationality on the topic, just like JO's paranoia is messing with his thinking on Russia.


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Wednesday, July 14, 2021 10:10 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You took an untested shot made via a means that you don't understand much better what it's doing to your genes than somebody who doesn't know a thing about science. And I don't care what you say to the contrary or what you believe about that.

Me?

I have no dog in this race.

In fact, I'm the one here who hopes that he is wrong since a lot of people I care about who know way less than you do (and most of them quite a bit less intelligent than you are) went and took it either because they were scared or because they were just beaten down to death with the whole of last year.



If I'm right though?

I'm the one who has to live with the fact that I sat back and did nothing and said nothing to anybody that I cared about who got it.



Good luck to everybody.

There is zero chance anybody is ever putting that fucking needle in my arm.

I would blow my brains out before that happened.

I think you know me well enough by now to know that I am not being hyperbolic.

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Wednesday, July 14, 2021 10:32 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You took an untested shot made via a means that you don't understand much better what it's doing to your genes than somebody who doesn't know a thing about science. And I don't care what you say to the contrary or what you believe about that.

Me?

I have no dog in this race.

In fact, I'm the one here who hopes that he is wrong since a lot of people I care about who know way less than you do (and most of them quite a bit less intelligent than you are) went and took it either because they were scared or because they were just beaten down to death with the whole of last year.



If I'm right though?

I'm the one who has to live with the fact that I sat back and did nothing and said nothing to anybody that I cared about who got it.



Good luck to everybody.

There is zero chance anybody is ever putting that fucking needle in my arm.

I would blow my brains out before that happened.

I think you know me well enough by now to know that I am not being hyperbolic.

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You don't expect me to believe this post, do you?

You've been in angry denial since the virus reared its ugly head.

You claimed the virus never existed.
You claim that nobody ever died of COVID-19 despite the piles of bodies and ginormous rise in excess deaths.

You were against lockdowns
You were against MASKING, for god's sake, which is about the most innocuous measure one can take.

NOW you're claiming that your (real) objection is about the vaccine and that you "have no dog in this race"?

Oh, PUHLEEZ! You're just latching on to one excuse after another to be oppositional about something ... anything... related to the virus. I really think you should do a deep dive into why you react the way you do, and understand the genesis of your anger.

But I'm not going to change your mind, so that's where I stop.

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Thursday, July 15, 2021 8:04 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yeah. I have no dog in this race.

Meaning that I didn't get the shot, and I will never get the shot.

The fact that the virus doesn't kill anybody leaves me with no dog in this race.


But you've got who the fuck knows what floating around in your bloodstream doing who the fuck knows what to your system.

If you weren't properly incentivized to believe everything they tell you about the issue before, you are now.

Not that it would do you any good.

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Thursday, July 15, 2021 8:52 AM

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Thursday, July 15, 2021 9:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You took an untested shot made via a means that you don't understand much better what it's doing to your genes than somebody who doesn't know a thing about science. . . .

There is zero chance anybody is ever putting that fucking needle in my arm.

I would blow my brains out before that happened.

I think you know me well enough by now to know that I am not being hyperbolic.

Are you absolutely sure you are not a Republican? Only Republicans I know have said what you said. Untested vax? After hundreds of millions of shots? Vax modifies your genes? Where did that come from? You'll blow your brains out before allowing a vax? Very strange ideas, without citations to justify belief, are roaming in your brain, 6ix.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, July 15, 2021 9:12 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Are you absolutely sure you are not a Republican?



Yes.

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Only Republicans I know have said what you said.


Don't care about your stupid, slanted antecdotes. Never have.

P.S. You should check out the video I posted just above yours. I guess they're all Republicans, or at least they were when Trump was still President and the shots had yet to be fast-tracked through the FDA without any testing.

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Untested vax?


Yes.

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After hundreds of millions of shots?


After hundreds of millions of test subjects. We'll see how that goes. Fingers crossed.

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Vax modifies your genes? Where did that come from?


HINT: Not CNN.

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You'll blow your brains out before allowing a vax?


If it ever comes to that. Hopefully the US isn't New Zealand where they're hunting down the unvaccinated and forcing shots.

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Very strange ideas, without citations to justify belief, are roaming in your brain, 6ix.


I've given citations. Go fetch, doggy.

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Thursday, July 15, 2021 10:09 AM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Untested vax? After hundreds of millions of shots? Vax modifies your genes?



3 & a haf billion so far!

Far beyond any clinical trailz. And the advers reactionz are well established to be rarer than most or all long time established vakseenz. There are very rare fatal reactionz.

6string, you need to hit your reset button.

Your oddz uv dying from an advers reaction are virtually 0. Your oddz uv dying from the coronavirus if you get infected iz 2 in 100.

Probably hire for you sins your attitude indicates you woud not go to the hospital till you are about to keel over, if at all. The 98% survival rate includez victimz hoo needed to be intubated, sum hoo spent months with tubez going thru a hole in their nek and sum hoo reseived lung transplants.

Currently the Delta variant iz taking over. It iz more contajus than the orijinal. 99+% uv patients entering the hospital are unvaksinated.

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Thursday, July 15, 2021 10:19 AM

JO753

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Herez where youre getting your opinion, 6:



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Thursday, July 15, 2021 10:41 AM

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Jared Kushner said Trump put Pence in charge of the US coronavirus response because 'he didn't have anything else to do'

According to the Daily Beast, the book detailed an interaction between the president's son-in-law and advisor Jared Kushner, and Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar, at the end of February 2020, when the virus began to spread out of control in the US.

Kushner told Azar that Trump had installed Pence as coronavirus czar because "he didn't have anything else to do,"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jared-kushner-said-trump-put-p
ence-in-charge-of-the-us-coronavirus-response-because-he-didn-t-have-anything-else-to-do-book-says/ar-AAMbTZT?ocid=msedgntp




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Thursday, July 15, 2021 12:39 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
3 & a haf billion so far!

Far beyond any clinical trailz. And the advers reactionz are well established to be rarer than most or all long time established vakseenz. There are very rare fatal reactionz.

6string, you need to hit your reset button.

Your oddz uv dying from an advers reaction are virtually 0. Your oddz uv dying from the coronavirus if you get infected iz 2 in 100.



A decade from now, you might wish you died of the shot.

Let's at least wait and see what kinds of babies start popping out from the vaccinated fucking each other before we say that it's safe, huh? Assuming of course that they can still even have babies.

Maybe you've already started growing that brain tumor.

Let me know if you start developing any sweet telekinetic powers though. I'll reconsider getting the shot if it means the nanobots will make me a member of the X-Men.



You're too smart to be on that side of the conversation JO.

Good luck.

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Thursday, July 15, 2021 2:09 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SIX, your fear- mongering about the vaccine is based on complete ignorance of biology.

You need to understand how DNA, RNA, and viruses work.

DNA makes up your "genes". It exists as chromosomes in the cell nucleus. But DNA does not DIRECTLY make proteins.

What DNA does is make RNA, which is transported to another cellular structure outside of the nucleus, called ribosomes. There, the RNA provides the instruction set for the ribosomes to make proteins (which are the functional parts that make your cells work).

This indirect translation from DNA to RNA protects the DNA from being degraded even if it is used over and over again.

If you remember nothing else, remember this: DNA MAKES RNA, AND RNA MAKES PROTEIN.

Now, SOME viruses insert themselves directly into your DNA, the cheeky bastards, and hijack that protein-making process directly to make more of ITSELF, until the infected cell literally explodes and dies.

mRNA vaccines short-circuit the process. They don't involve DNA at all. The go directly to the ribosomes, and instruct the ribosomes to make small bits of viral protein which your immune system will "learn" and react to.

In many ways, mRNA is safer than other vaccine technologies, altho it may be less effective.

If you want, I can discuss other vaccine technologies too.

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Thursday, July 15, 2021 2:27 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Okie Dokie.

Good luck.



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Thursday, July 15, 2021 2:28 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Talcum Powder on the vag was once thought of as completely safe too.

Whoopsie! Ovarian cancer.

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Thursday, July 15, 2021 3:29 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Okie Dokie.

Good luck.



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I see you remain as obdurately ignorant on this topic as THUGR does on his.

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Thursday, July 15, 2021 10:11 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Ditto.

Good luck.



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Thursday, July 15, 2021 10:28 PM

SIGNYM

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DNA MAKES RNA AND RNA MAKES PROTEIN.

This was known when I was in grade school. 55 years ago.

I hope somebody learned something from the post, even if SIX didn't.

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Thursday, July 15, 2021 11:57 PM

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Andrea Junker @Strandjunker

2 died of Ebola: They said Obama should resign.

4 died in Benghazi: They had Hillary testify for 11 hours, held 33 hearings, and launched a multiyear probe.

623,846 Covid deaths plus an armed insurrection thanks to Trump’s malevolence: They cheered, and want America to move on.

9:45 AM · Jul 15, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/Strandjunker/status/1415683868334514187

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, July 16, 2021 12:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Talcum Powder on the vag was once thought of as completely safe too.

Whoopsie! Ovarian cancer.

Was your "expert" on ovarian cancer a personal injury lawyer who is under no obligation to be truthful? I only ask because www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/talcum-powder-and-cancer.html says you are nuts, 6ix. I heard a rumor that alternating current causes cancer. May I suggest you have your electric meter disconnected and live in the dark? Just to be safe from cancer, you know.

Talcum Powder Lawsuit Attorney - Work Directly With An Attorney
https://law.weisfuselaw.com/talcum-powder/

Johnson & Johnson knew for decades that asbestos lurked in its Baby Powder
www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/johnsonandjohnson-cancer/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, July 16, 2021 8:22 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Talcum Powder on the vag was once thought of as completely safe too.

Whoopsie! Ovarian cancer.

Was your "expert" on ovarian cancer a personal injury lawyer who is under no obligation to be truthful? I only ask because www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/talcum-powder-and-cancer.html says you are nuts, 6ix. I heard a rumor that alternating current causes cancer. May I suggest you have your electric meter disconnected and live in the dark? Just to be safe from cancer, you know.

Talcum Powder Lawsuit Attorney - Work Directly With An Attorney
https://law.weisfuselaw.com/talcum-powder/

Johnson & Johnson knew for decades that asbestos lurked in its Baby Powder
www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/johnsonandjohnson-cancer/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Next you're going to tell me that there has never been anything that was sold to the public that caused anybody harm.

I know a 40 year old with a brain of a child who took a Jart to the dome that wouldn't agree with you. Well... at least his mom wouldn't.

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Friday, July 16, 2021 8:24 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
DNA MAKES RNA AND RNA MAKES PROTEIN.

This was known when I was in grade school. 55 years ago.

I hope somebody learned something from the post, even if SIX didn't.




You Boomers were still being taught that the sun revolved around the Earth when you were in grade school.

Pluto was a planet when I was in grade school.

Brontosaurus was Brontosaurus until it wasn't Brontosaurus anymore and then it was Apatosaurus until it wasn't Apatosaurus anymore and it was Brontosaurus again.



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Friday, July 16, 2021 8:31 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Andrea Junker @Strandjunker

2 died of Ebola: They said Obama should resign.

4 died in Benghazi: They had Hillary testify for 11 hours, held 33 hearings, and launched a multiyear probe.

623,846 Covid deaths plus an armed insurrection thanks to Trump’s malevolence: They cheered, and want America to move on.

9:45 AM · Jul 15, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/Strandjunker/status/1415683868334514187

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



"Junker" huh... How apropos.



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Friday, July 16, 2021 8:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

"Junker" huh... How apropos.

Your name is 6ix, which sounds like sick . . . How apropos.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, July 16, 2021 8:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Talcum Powder on the vag was once thought of as completely safe too.

Whoopsie! Ovarian cancer.

Was your "expert" on ovarian cancer a personal injury lawyer who is under no obligation to be truthful? I only ask because www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/talcum-powder-and-cancer.html says you are nuts, 6ix. I heard a rumor that alternating current causes cancer. May I suggest you have your electric meter disconnected and live in the dark? Just to be safe from cancer, you know.

Talcum Powder Lawsuit Attorney - Work Directly With An Attorney
https://law.weisfuselaw.com/talcum-powder/

Johnson & Johnson knew for decades that asbestos lurked in its Baby Powder
www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/johnsonandjohnson-cancer/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Next you're going to tell me that there has never been anything that was sold to the public that caused anybody harm.

I know a 40 year old with a brain of a child who took a Jart to the dome that wouldn't agree with you. Well... at least his mom wouldn't.

Not to nitpick, but Johnson & Johnson was sued because some, not all, mines supplied talc contaminated with asbestos. J&J was concerned but didn't do a damn thing because the asbestos/talc was cheaper than pure talc. The asbestos is what got J&J into legal trouble. Now if you have a reason to believe vaccines are contaminated with asbestos or something, then you have good reason to refuse vaccines. But if the contamination is all in your head, that is to say imaginary, then you have no good reasons. And who is so stupid as to throw Jarts and think it can't poke a hole in you? Next you will be saying nobody realized until product liability cases were lost in court that a spinning lawnmower blade can kill you. Hey, lawnmowers only cut lawns, says idiots, and Jarts only poke holes in lawns.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, July 16, 2021 9:11 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

"Junker" huh... How apropos.

Your name is 6ix, which sounds like sick . . . How apropos.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Your name is Second, which is last place in Chess. How apropos.

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Friday, July 16, 2021 9:13 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Talcum Powder on the vag was once thought of as completely safe too.

Whoopsie! Ovarian cancer.

Was your "expert" on ovarian cancer a personal injury lawyer who is under no obligation to be truthful? I only ask because www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/talcum-powder-and-cancer.html says you are nuts, 6ix. I heard a rumor that alternating current causes cancer. May I suggest you have your electric meter disconnected and live in the dark? Just to be safe from cancer, you know.

Talcum Powder Lawsuit Attorney - Work Directly With An Attorney
https://law.weisfuselaw.com/talcum-powder/

Johnson & Johnson knew for decades that asbestos lurked in its Baby Powder
www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/johnsonandjohnson-cancer/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Next you're going to tell me that there has never been anything that was sold to the public that caused anybody harm.

I know a 40 year old with a brain of a child who took a Jart to the dome that wouldn't agree with you. Well... at least his mom wouldn't.

Not to nitpick, but Johnson & Johnson was sued because some, not all, mines supplied talc contaminated with asbestos. J&J was concerned but didn't do a damn thing because the asbestos/talc was cheaper than pure talc. The asbestos is what got J&J into legal trouble. Now if you have a reason to believe vaccines are contaminated with asbestos or something, then you have good reason to refuse vaccines. But if the contamination is all in your head, that is to say imaginary, then you have no good reasons. And who is so stupid as to throw Jarts and think it can't poke a hole in you? Next you will be saying nobody realized until product liability cases were lost in court that a spinning lawnmower blade can kill you. Hey, lawnmowers only cut lawns, says idiots, and Jarts only poke holes in lawns.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



It's not imaginary.

I'm hoping you're right.

Like I said before, this is one bag of I Told You So's I'm not looking forward to handing out.

But count me out. There's no possible scenario where I get that shot.

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Saturday, July 17, 2021 8:06 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

But count me out. There's no possible scenario where I get that shot.

Also there is no possible scenario where you vote for Biden:

2 maps that explain how partisanship has poisoned our fight against Covid-19

The remarkable overlap between the two maps: states that voted for Joe Biden have higher vaccination rates while those that went for Donald Trump have far lower ones. And it's not just that! In most cases, the stronger a state went for Biden, the higher the overall vaccination rate in that state is. That relationship is inversely proportional for Trump: The higher the former President's winning percentage is in a state, the lower, generally speaking, the percentage of the population that has been vaccinated.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/08/politics/electoral-map-vaccine-map-covi
d-19/index.html


I do know a strong Trump supporter who got vaccinated, but his wife is my sister. Between her and my other sister, the nurse, Ron ultimately had no chance to avoid the vaccination, although he tried. Ron is just one datapoint out of many convincing me that all Trumptards are crazy and stupid, but occasionally, uncharacteristically, they act sane and smart, although not because they are sane and smart.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, July 17, 2021 8:25 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

But count me out. There's no possible scenario where I get that shot.

Also there is no possible scenario where you vote for Biden:

2 maps that explain how partisanship has poisoned our fight against Covid-19

The remarkable overlap between the two maps: states that voted for Joe Biden have higher vaccination rates while those that went for Donald Trump have far lower ones. And it's not just that! In most cases, the stronger a state went for Biden, the higher the overall vaccination rate in that state is. That relationship is inversely proportional for Trump: The higher the former President's winning percentage is in a state, the lower, generally speaking, the percentage of the population that has been vaccinated.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/08/politics/electoral-map-vaccine-map-covi
d-19/index.html


I do know a strong Trump supporter who got vaccinated, but his wife is my sister. Between her and my other sister, the nurse, Ron ultimately had no chance to avoid the vaccination, although he tried. Ron is just one datapoint out of many convincing me that all Trumptards are crazy and stupid, but occasionally, uncharacteristically, they act sane and smart, although not because they are sane and smart.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




That's not something I'd brag about.

It means that stupid, scared little sheep voted for your guy, in general.

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Saturday, July 17, 2021 8:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

That's not something I'd brag about.

It means that stupid, scared little sheep voted for your guy, in general.

Ron, my Trump voting in-law, is still worried the vax will kill him and it has been 6 months since the shots that he didn't want were forced on him by his wife and sister-in-law. Ron is also worried Biden is a Commie. It has been 6 months since the Inauguration but any day now Biden will reveal his evil plan to destroy the American brand of Capitalism, the greatest idea of all times. Ha-ha! Ron is an idiot.

A few more things about Ron: he got laid off 21 years ago from SmithKline Beecham, when it merged with Glaxo Wellcome. He hasn't worked since. My sister supports him. He bought a Harley and hangs out with other unemployed Trumptards. He owns every Rush Limbaugh book, an author for those who feel they aren't getting a fair deal only because they are white. Ha-ha! It's not because they are white, it is because they are stupid.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, July 17, 2021 1:27 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Yanno, I was noodling on the conspiracy-theories about Covid-19, and I realized that two of the conspiracy theories conflict with each other.

The first conspiracy theory is that the dastardly Commie Chinese unleashed this on the world.

The second is that the virus doesn't exist at all, or - if it does- it's so ineffective that we should just ignore it because "nobody ever died of Covid".

They really don't fit together, do they?

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SECONDRATE: I think what you're seeing is that the M$M and establishment (incl. scientific/healthcare) have lost so much credibility that now not only do many not trust what "they say", they actively believe the opposite of what "they say".

But that's what you get from distorting and propagandizing and lying to people 24/7/365. Eventually, nobody trusts you about anything, even when you're telling the truth or a partial truth.

Blowback's a bitch, yanno?

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Saturday, July 17, 2021 2:49 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

That's not something I'd brag about.

It means that stupid, scared little sheep voted for your guy, in general.

Ron, my Trump voting in-law, is still worried the vax will kill him and it has been 6 months since the shots that he didn't want were forced on him by his wife and sister-in-law. Ron is also worried Biden is a Commie. It has been 6 months since the Inauguration but any day now Biden will reveal his evil plan to destroy the American brand of Capitalism, the greatest idea of all times. Ha-ha! Ron is an idiot.

A few more things about Ron: he got laid off 21 years ago from SmithKline Beecham, when it merged with Glaxo Wellcome. He hasn't worked since. My sister supports him. He bought a Harley and hangs out with other unemployed Trumptards. He owns every Rush Limbaugh book, an author for those who feel they aren't getting a fair deal only because they are white. Ha-ha! It's not because they are white, it is because they are stupid.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Nobody cares about your hardon for the Trump voters in your life.

Fucking figure that out already, because it's not a valid argument for anything.

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Saturday, July 17, 2021 9:19 PM

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Saturday, July 17, 2021 10:12 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

SECONDRATE: I think what you're seeing is that the M$M and establishment (incl. scientific/healthcare) have lost so much credibility that now not only do many not trust what "they say", they actively believe the opposite of what "they say".

SIGNYM: But that's what you get from distorting and propagandizing and lying to people 24/7/365. Eventually, nobody trusts you about anything, even when you're telling the truth or a partial truth.

Blowback's a bitch, yanno?

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I think the biggest contributor to that was Fauci ... plus the m$m that uncritically parroted whatever BS he was peddling at the time, plus Trump's political calculations.

Early on this was a genuine crisis. The earliest information was that SARS-CoV-2 was a novel virus responded to with severe measures by the Chinese (lockdown, cordon sanitaire, forcible separation of the infected from everyone else, instant hospitals), whose closest virus-relative SARS-CoV-(1) has an up to 50% case fatality ratio. Looking at how China responded, as the first nation to experience a significant outbreak, should have given anybody concerns. All early indications were that it could end up as an extreme pandemic. Even now, with a more accurate case-fatality ratio for SARS-CoV-2 of 1.0-1.5% in a general western population (and up to 10% in Mexico and 19% in Yemen), it's still concerning. If, say, all of the people in the US were infected, that would mean 3.25M deaths at a minimum. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_death_rates_by_country

So, to get Trump's contribution out of the way ... He DID all the right things in terms of closing the borders to GREAT criticism from many democrats (if he could be faulted for that, it was too little, too late), and getting vaccine makers on-board. What he SAID was a bunch of BS, but then, he was trying to keep from spooking the markets, so as to not torpedo his reelection chances. Well, maybe I'm just too cynical. I expect politicians to lie, and I have never taken any of Trump's pronouncements seriously anyway.



But mostly I point the finger at Fauci ... and the m$m.

The first instance where he frittered away his credibility was by saying "masks don't work". Well, they DO work. The proper masks like N95s protect the user from ultra-small particles, like asbestos and lead pigment, and infectious aerosols, and in reverse protect a process like chip fabs from human contamination. And cloth or paper masks protect the environment and people from larger particles, which is why OR personnel wear them - to protect the patients. Then Fauci later backtracked and claimed that he was trying to keep a supply available for 'medicals'. But he lied about an inconvenient truth. And IMO you need to tell the truth, even if it's complicated, and nuanced, and unhappy, to be credible.

The second major loss of creditably came when he shaded, or failed to correct, the impressionism about vaccines being 95% effective. Most people assumed that meant effective against infection. But the original endpoints were hospitalizations and deaths. That caveat was only later addressed - indirectly - when the news started announcing that the vaccines were ~95% effective against infection. I'm sure that caused a few gaslight moments - when people were confused over what they thought they originally understood.

Whether or not the virus could be laboratory-based was another huge divot.

And whether or not the US was involved-in, or funding, gain-of-function research was another.

All in all, Fauci came across as shady, and single-handedly cost science and medicine their credibility in, I think, A LOT of peoples' minds.

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Sunday, July 18, 2021 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
If, say, all of the people in the US were infected, that would mean 3.25M deaths at a minimum.



Nah. Tons of people got it and didn't even know they had it.

All the deaths up-front were the old, feeble and seriously unhealthy people.

A lot more than 20% of Americans were infected by Covid.

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So, to get Trump's contribution out of the way ... He DID all the right things in terms of closing the borders to GREAT criticism from many democrats (if he could be faulted for that, it was too little, too late),


He was racist for even suggesting such a thing. Nancy Pelosi said so.

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But mostly I point the finger at Fauci ... and the m$m.


At least we agree on something regarding this whole thing.

Quote:

The first instance where he frittered away his credibility was by saying "masks don't work". Well, they DO work. The proper masks like N95s protect the user from ultra-small particles, like asbestos and lead pigment, and infectious aerosols, and in reverse protect a process like chip fabs from human contamination. And cloth or paper masks protect the environment and people from larger particles, which is why OR personnel wear them - to protect the patients.


Maybe N95 masks work, but almost nobody was ever wearing them. I got a cheap 5 pack of washables from China. My old man just put a rag on his face. I rarely ever saw somebody wearing N95.

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Then Fauci later backtracked and claimed that he was trying to keep a supply available for 'medicals'. But he lied about an inconvenient truth. And IMO you need to tell the truth, even if it's complicated, and nuanced, and unhappy, to be credible.


Yeah. That was stupid. But at the same time, people who ACTUALLY needed masks for home remodeling (like me) couldn't buy them. They were even more scarce than toilet paper.

I wonder how many years I shaved off my life by doing work without a mask that required it because a bunch of pansies afraid of the common cold "needed" them.

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The second major loss of creditably came when he shaded, or failed to correct, the impressionism about vaccines being 95% effective. Most people assumed that meant effective against infection. But the original endpoints were hospitalizations and deaths. That caveat was only later addressed - indirectly - when the news started announcing that the vaccines were ~95% effective against infection. I'm sure that caused a few gaslight moments - when people were confused over what they thought they originally understood.

Whether or not the virus could be laboratory-based was another huge divot.

And whether or not the US was involved-in, or funding, gain-of-function research was another.

All in all, Fauci came across as shady, and single-handedly cost science and medicine their credibility in, I think, A LOT of peoples' minds.



He should be fighting for his life to stay out of prison right now. I can't believe we even have to see his face anymore.

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

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Sunday, July 18, 2021 3:01 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


The efficacy of the drug ivermectin being promoted by rightwing figures worldwide for treating Covid-19 is in serious doubt after a major study suggesting the treatment is effective against the virus was withdrawn due to “ethical concerns”. Data appears ‘totally faked’.

Lawrence said what started out as a simple university assignment had led to a comprehensive investigation into an apparent scientific fraud at a time when “there is a whole ivermectin hype … dominated by a mix of right-wing figures, anti-vaxxers and outright conspiracists”.

“Although science trends towards self-correction, something is clearly broken in a system that can allow a study as full of problems as the Elgazzar paper to run unchallenged for seven months,” he said.

“Thousands of highly educated scientists, doctors, pharmacists, and at least four major medicines regulators missed a fraud so apparent that it might as well have come with a flashing neon sign. That this all happened amid an ongoing global health crisis of epic proportions is all the more terrifying.”

www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/16/huge-study-supporting-ivermect
in-as-covid-treatment-withdrawn-over-ethical-concerns


Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19 -- U.S. FOOD & DRUG ADMINISTRATION
www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermect
in-treat-or-prevent-covid-19


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, July 18, 2021 3:21 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I suggest Chris Martenson. Altho he's a "self-help financial advisor", his PhD is in pathology, and he's not afraid to delve deeply into the science. He may not always be right, but he's always educational.

https:// m.youtube.com/c/PeakProsperity/videos
I broke the URL so it would display properly



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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

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Sunday, July 18, 2021 3:59 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
The efficacy of the drug ivermectin being promoted by rightwing figures worldwide for treating Covid-19 is in serious doubt after a major study suggesting the treatment is effective against the virus was withdrawn due to “ethical concerns”. Data appears ‘totally faked’.

Lawrence said what started out as a simple university assignment had led to a comprehensive investigation into an apparent scientific fraud at a time when “there is a whole ivermectin hype … dominated by a mix of right-wing figures, anti-vaxxers and outright conspiracists”.

“Although science trends towards self-correction, something is clearly broken in a system that can allow a study as full of problems as the Elgazzar paper to run unchallenged for seven months,” he said.

“Thousands of highly educated scientists, doctors, pharmacists, and at least four major medicines regulators missed a fraud so apparent that it might as well have come with a flashing neon sign. That this all happened amid an ongoing global health crisis of epic proportions is all the more terrifying.”

www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/16/huge-study-supporting-ivermect
in-as-covid-treatment-withdrawn-over-ethical-concerns


Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19 -- U.S. FOOD & DRUG ADMINISTRATION
www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermect
in-treat-or-prevent-covid-19


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

This is similar in a way to the data I used to crunch thru. Getting RAW data is often key to understanding what happened.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

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Sunday, July 18, 2021 9:48 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
The efficacy of the drug ivermectin being promoted by rightwing figures worldwide for treating Covid-19 is in serious doubt after a major study suggesting the treatment is effective against the virus was withdrawn due to “ethical concerns”. Data appears ‘totally faked’.

Lawrence said what started out as a simple university assignment had led to a comprehensive investigation into an apparent scientific fraud at a time when “there is a whole ivermectin hype … dominated by a mix of right-wing figures, anti-vaxxers and outright conspiracists”.

“Although science trends towards self-correction, something is clearly broken in a system that can allow a study as full of problems as the Elgazzar paper to run unchallenged for seven months,” he said.

“Thousands of highly educated scientists, doctors, pharmacists, and at least four major medicines regulators missed a fraud so apparent that it might as well have come with a flashing neon sign. That this all happened amid an ongoing global health crisis of epic proportions is all the more terrifying.”

www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/16/huge-study-supporting-ivermect
in-as-covid-treatment-withdrawn-over-ethical-concerns


Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19 -- U.S. FOOD & DRUG ADMINISTRATION
www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermect
in-treat-or-prevent-covid-19


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



That entire system is broke. Not just the scientific part.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/new-sokal-hoax/57221
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Sunday, July 18, 2021 10:07 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK




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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

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Sunday, July 18, 2021 10:58 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

That entire system is broke. Not just the scientific part.

The truth is very different, 6ix. It is more like few people will volunteer to enter someone else's locked house and inspect their kitchen and, if it appears dirty, clean up the mess in the refrigerator, on the stove, in the oven, and on the floor so that the kitchen is clean enough to pass a health inspection:

Science Advances One Funeral at a Time. The Latest Nobel Proves It

The economics establishment resisted the behavioral insights of Richard Thaler.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-10/science-advances-on
e-funeral-at-a-time-the-latest-nobel-proves-it


The German physicist Max Planck said that science advances one funeral at a time. Or more precisely: “A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.”

Richard Thaler of the University of Chicago’s Booth School of Business, who won the Nobel Prize in economics on Oct. 9, exemplifies Planck’s observation.

Early in Thaler’s career, he had a hard time getting the establishment to take him seriously. Mainstream economists clung to a model in which human beings were rational and farsighted. The top journals rejected papers by Thaler that pointed to the all-too-human foibles of real people. His thesis adviser “was unimpressed and told me to go back to running regressions,” Thaler recalled in a 2013 interview with a Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis publication. It took 20 years for the old guard to give way to a new one.

Why do scientists sometimes seem to resist new ideas? On the day Thaler got his Nobel, I interviewed Pierre Azoulay, co-author of a research paper called Does Science Advance One Funeral at a Time? He and his co-authors found that at least in the case of life sciences, Planck’s epigram about funerals is correct. Here’s the synopsis:

Consistent with previous research, the flow of articles by collaborators into affected fields decreases precipitously after the death of a star scientist (relative to control fields). In contrast, we find that the flow of articles by non-collaborators increases by 8% on average. These additional contributions are disproportionately likely to be highly cited. They are also more likely to be authored by scientists who were not previously active in the deceased superstar's field. Overall, these results suggest that outsiders are reluctant to challenge leadership within a field when the star is alive and that a number of barriers may constrain entry even after she is gone. Intellectual, social, and re-source barriers all impede entry, with outsiders only entering subfields that offer a less hostile landscape for the support and acceptance of “foreign” ideas.

To put it differently, Azoulay found that the death of a star scientist is like the fall of a huge tree. It lets sunshine reach the forest floor through a hole in the leaf canopy, enabling new kinds of vegetation to flourish.

Azoulay, a native of France, teaches innovation and entrepreneurship at Massachusetts Institute of Technology’s Sloan School of Management. He said that by time he started working on his Ph.D. in the late 1990s, Thaler’s ideas were already well into the academic mainstream. Thaler was even elected president of the American Economic Association in 2015. In Azoulay’s opinion, Thaler’s ongoing portrayal of himself as a renegade is “a very clever marketing strategy.”

But Azoulay concedes that early in his career, Thaler really did have to fight an uphill battle. “Some of his ideas were blocked for a little bit longer than a benevolent, all-knowing social planner would have liked,” Azoulay said.

The economists who resisted Thaler’s way of thinking didn’t necessarily die, but they did relinquish their grip on the scholarly journals and professorships that are the commanding heights of academics. A good example is Eugene Fama, a founder of the efficient-markets school, which is antithetical to Thaler’s way of thinking. Fama is a colleague of Thaler at Chicago Booth and a friendly rival; they even play tennis together.

“In the long run,” Azoulay said, “the best ideas probably win. But in the short run, lots of funky things can happen. Thaler’s career is an embodiment of the beginning and the end of that process.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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