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Friday, May 21, 2021 8:26 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Lies, lies.

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Saying "Lies, lies" all the time is not being truthful, 6ix. Instead say "I don't care. What difference does it make for me how many die?" Tell the truth about yourself, 6ix. Stop hiding your true motivations behind short declarative sentences such as 'Lies, lies!' or 'Fake News!'

True COVID-19 global death toll is likely 2 to 3 times higher than official count of 3.4 million, warns WHO

Last Updated: May 21, 2021 at 7:41 a.m. ET

The number of global deaths caused by the coronavirus-borne illness COVID-19 is likely far higher than official numbers suggest, as all countries are struggling to provide accurate statistical models and counts, the World Health Organization said Friday.

The agency’s annual “state of the world’s health” assessment presented in its World Health Statistics report for 2021, found that as of Dec. 31, 2020, the true number of global COVID deaths was at least 3 million, or 1.2 million more than the 1.8 million officially reported at the time. www.who.int/data/gho/publications/world-health-statistics

For weeks now, India COVID patients have been dying in ambulances while waiting for hospital beds and for oxygen. Officials have found bodies washing up on the banks of the Ganges River, raising concerns that poorer people who can no longer afford costly cremations are dumping bodies there.

China, where the virus was first discovered late in 2019, has had 102,822 confirmed cases and 4,846 deaths, according to its official numbers, which are widely held to be massively underreported. China, with a population of 1.39 billion, has fewer deaths, according to its official numbers, than Ireland, with a population of just 4.9 million. Ireland’s official death toll is 4,941.

www.marketwatch.com/story/true-covid-19-global-death-toll-is-likely-2-
to-3-times-higher-than-official-count-of-3-4-million-warns-who-11621595605


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Friday, May 21, 2021 10:24 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
Saying "Lies, lies" all the time is not being truthful, 6ix.



Yes. It is.

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Instead say "I don't care. What difference does it make for me how many die?"


No. That would be a lie.

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Tell the truth about yourself, 6ix.


I'm always doing that here. Warts and all.

Take your own advice. Liar.

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Stop hiding your true motivations behind short declarative sentences such as 'Lies, lies!' or 'Fake News!'


Which motivations are those?

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Saturday, May 22, 2021 7:30 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Bio Make Up of Corona
Cryo-EM Structure of an Extended SARS-CoV-2 Replication and Transcription Complex Reveals an Intermediate State in Cap Synthesis
mRNA requires sequential reactions facilitated by the replication and transcription complex
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092867420315336#fi
gs2


Quebec reports lowest number of new COVID-19 cases since September.
https://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/ts/news/canada/2021/05/22/queb
ec-reports-lowest-number-of-new-covid-19-cases-since-september.html


EU advises against second AstraZeneca shot for people with blood clots
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/eu-regulat
or-advices-against-second-astrazeneca-shot-those-with-blood-clots-2021-05-21
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Sunday, May 23, 2021 7:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Saying "Lies, lies" all the time is not being truthful, 6ix.



Yes. It is.

Quote:

Instead say "I don't care. What difference does it make for me how many die?"


No. That would be a lie.

Quote:

Tell the truth about yourself, 6ix.


I'm always doing that here. Warts and all.

Take your own advice. Liar.

Quote:

Stop hiding your true motivations behind short declarative sentences such as 'Lies, lies!' or 'Fake News!'


Which motivations are those?

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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

6ix, I am from Texas, where every other person is a liar. One of the key traits of Texas liars is to defend themselves with a fire hose of even more lies. They never fight back with facts. The Texas liars figure that lying got them into trouble and lying will get them back out again. 6ix, you never use facts like a truthful and sane person would. You never even use facts. You just blow hot air all the time, even in your above reply. If you were a fundamentally truthful person, you would have ignored the whole thing and gone about your business. But, no!, you've got to write back and defend your honor. You Trumptards are so funny, but being crazy in the head and ultra-touchy does not get you ahead in the world.

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Sunday, May 23, 2021 7:48 AM

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Vaccines have been met with suspicion and hostility for as long as they have existed.

“Vaccine hesitancy has less to do with misunderstanding the science and more to do with general mistrust of scientific institutions and government,” says Maya Goldenberg, a philosophy expert at the University of Guelph, Ontario, who studies the phenomenon.

“The reasons people have hesitated reflect the cultural anxieties of their time and place,” Goldenberg says. People worried about toxins arising during environmentalism in the 1970s and people in countries steeped in civil war have perceived vaccines as government weapons.

18th Century - Smallpox vaccine sets the stage around the globe

In a way, anti-vaccination attitudes predate vaccination itself. Public vaccination began after English physician Edward Jenner learned that milkmaids were protected from smallpox after exposure to cowpox, a related virus in cows. In 1796, Jenner scientifically legitimized the procedure of injecting people with cowpox, which he termed variolae vaccinae, to prevent smallpox. However, variolation — which staved off serious smallpox infections by triggering mild infection through exposure to material from an infected person — dates back to at least the 1000s in Asia, Africa and other parts of the world. In some cases people inhaled the dried scabs of smallpox lesions or rubbed or injected pus from smallpox lesions into a healthy person’s scratched skin.

About 1 to 2 percent of people — including a son of Britain’s King George III in 1783 — died from the procedure, far fewer than the up to 30 percent who died from smallpox. Benjamin Franklin rejected variolation, but later regretted it when smallpox killed his youngest son. Onesimus, an enslaved man in Boston, taught the procedure to Puritan minister Cotton Mather, who in turn urged doctors to inoculate the public during a 1721 smallpox outbreak. Many refused, and Mather faced hostility: A small bomb was thrown through his window. Reasons given for avoiding variolation — particularly that it was unnatural to interfere with a person’s relationship with God — were the seeds of later anti-vaccination attitudes.

19th Century - The first vaccination laws kindle resistance

In 1809, Massachusetts passed the world’s first known mandatory vaccination law, requiring the general population to receive the smallpox vaccine. Resistance began to grow as other states passed similar laws. Then the U.K. Vaccination Act of 1853 required parents to get infants vaccinated by 3 months old, or face fines or imprisonment. The law sparked violent riots and the formation of the Anti-Vaccination League of London. Vaccine resisters were often poor people suspicious of a forced medical intervention since, under normal circumstances, they rarely received any health care. Anti-vaccination groups argued that compulsory vaccination violated personal liberty, writing that the acts “trample upon the right of parents to protect their children from disease” and “invaded liberty by rendering good health a crime.”

Anti-vaccination sentiment grew and spread across Europe until an 1885 demonstration of about 100,000 people in Leicester, England, prompted the British monarchy to appoint a commission to study the issue. The resulting 1896 report led to an 1898 act that removed penalties for parents who didn’t believe vaccination was safe or effective. The act introduced the term “conscientious objectors,” which later became more commonly associated with those who refuse military service on religious or moral grounds.

Across the Atlantic, most U.S. residents had embraced Jenner’s cowpox protective, leading to a precipitous drop in smallpox outbreaks. But with fewer outbreaks, complacency set in and vaccination rates dropped. As smallpox outbreaks resurfaced in the 1870s, states began enforcing existing vaccination laws or passing new ones. British anti-vaccinationist William Tebb visited New York in 1879, which led to the founding of the Anti-Vaccination Society of America. The group’s tactics will sound familiar: pamphlets, court battles and arguments in state legislatures that led to the repeal of mandatory vaccination laws in seven states. The 1905 Supreme Court decision Jacobson v. Massachusetts upheld a state’s right to mandate vaccines; it remains precedent today.

More history at www.sciencenews.org/article/vaccine-hesitancy-history-damage-anti-vacc
ination


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Sunday, May 23, 2021 8:03 AM

THG


Deaths

595,101



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Sunday, May 23, 2021 8:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Deaths

595,101



That cannot be correct because 6ixStringJack says the number is zero! He has also said he is not Republican but maybe he is a liar? Can't be sure because 6ix is "innocent until proven guilty" to quote a phrase frequently used by 1kiki to defend Trump's mendacity and incompetency.

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Sunday, May 23, 2021 9:22 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
6ix, I am from Texas, where every other person is a liar.



I'm from earth where everybody lies.

Shut the fuck up.

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Deaths

595,101



That cannot be correct because 6ixStringJack says the number is zero!



That's right.

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He has also said he is not Republican but maybe he is a liar? Can't be sure because 6ix is "innocent until proven guilty" to quote a phrase frequently used by 1kiki to defend Trump's mendacity and incompetency.


I'm not on trial.


If I were, I'd submit my post history. Yanno, the one that I've never edited over the years to cover up my bad behavior. You're the one that does that buddy. Too bad for you I've got your assassination calls archived.

Any jury would read about my posts about the GOP and the GWB administration and know that I'm clearly not a Republican.

Maybe Ted should be put on trial. He loves the McCains, the Bushes, Romney, Bolton and pretty much every piece of trash big name NeoCon in the 21st century.

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Sunday, May 23, 2021 9:26 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Deaths

595,101



That cannot be correct because 6ixStringJack says the number is zero! He has also said he is not Republican but maybe he is a liar? Can't be sure because 6ix is "innocent until proven guilty" to quote a phrase frequently used by 1kiki to defend Trump's mendacity and incompetency.




You nailed it SECOND, both are wackjobs.

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Sunday, May 23, 2021 9:27 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Deaths

595,101



That cannot be correct because 6ixStringJack says the number is zero! He has also said he is not Republican but maybe he is a liar? Can't be sure because 6ix is "innocent until proven guilty" to quote a phrase frequently used by 1kiki to defend Trump's mendacity and incompetency.




You nailed it SECOND, both are wackjobs.




Eat my balls, NeoCon dicklicker Ted.

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Sunday, May 23, 2021 10:00 AM

THG


Hey TWO, have you noticed how those who jump up and down proclaiming they have a right to, spend a vast amount of time trying to deny others of their right too.

They’ll say I have the right to not wear a mask but the store owner doesn't have the right to require one. Or, I have the right to not take the vaccine, but business do not have the right to require those who frequent their business to have gotten it.

It’s incredible how ignorant they are, don’t you agree?



T



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Sunday, May 23, 2021 10:06 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Hey TWO, have you noticed how those who jump up and down proclaiming they have a right to, spend a vast amount of time trying to deny others of their right too.

They’ll say I have the right to not wear a mask but the store owner doesn't have the right to require one. Or, I have the right to not take the vaccine, but business do not have the right to require those who frequent their business to have gotten it.

It’s incredible how ignorant they are, don’t you agree?




Wow. Talk about the ignorant calling others ignorant....



Corporations do not have those protections under the Constitution.

Let's list the other mandates the government has enforced on businesses in the past again, shall we?

1. Minimum Wage.
2. Equal Opportunity Employment.
3. 4 hours for a break, 8 hours for a lunch.
4. Child Labor Laws.
5. Overtime after 40 hours a week.
6. Worker's Compensation.
7. Family Medical Leave.
8. OSHA.
9. Whistleblower Protection.
10. Not having to piss in a fucking bottle while delivering packages and sitting on a pressure sensitive seats that let the CEO know exactly where you are and how often you're in that seat.



Are you arguing that a business owner should be able to ignore any of these as well then Ted?

Because that's what it sounds like your argument is.


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Sunday, May 23, 2021 9:57 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


No witty retort, fuckwit?

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Monday, May 24, 2021 9:04 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
No witty retort, fuckwit?

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Monday, May 24, 2021 9:53 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Wrong fuckwit...

Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Hey TWO, have you noticed how those who jump up and down proclaiming they have a right to, spend a vast amount of time trying to deny others of their right too.

They’ll say I have the right to not wear a mask but the store owner doesn't have the right to require one. Or, I have the right to not take the vaccine, but business do not have the right to require those who frequent their business to have gotten it.

It’s incredible how ignorant they are, don’t you agree?




Wow. Talk about the ignorant calling others ignorant....



Corporations do not have those protections under the Constitution.

Let's list the other mandates the government has enforced on businesses in the past again, shall we?

1. Minimum Wage.
2. Equal Opportunity Employment.
3. 4 hours for a break, 8 hours for a lunch.
4. Child Labor Laws.
5. Overtime after 40 hours a week.
6. Worker's Compensation.
7. Family Medical Leave.
8. OSHA.
9. Whistleblower Protection.
10. Not having to piss in a fucking bottle while delivering packages and sitting on a pressure sensitive seats that let the CEO know exactly where you are and how often you're in that seat.



Are you arguing that a business owner should be able to ignore any of these as well then Ted?

Because that's what it sounds like your argument is.


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Wednesday, May 26, 2021 12:05 PM

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. . . 548,000 out of 250 million unvaccinated people were hospitalized vs. 2,000 out of 50 million vaccinated people.

This means that about 0.22% of the unvaccinated population ended up in the hospital with COVID-19 compared to 0.004% of the vaccinated population. That's a difference of 55:1.

In other words, if you are unvaccinated, your odds of getting a case of COVID-19 serious enough to require hospitalization are 55 times higher than they are if you get the vaccination.

Why such a big difference? There are two factors. First, the vaccines prevent infections by a factor of about 10-20:1. Second, if you are infected, the vaccines help to prevent you from getting a serious case. Put those two things together, and you get the 55:1 difference in serious infections.

https://jabberwocking.com/how-effective-is-the-covid-19-vaccine/

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Wednesday, May 26, 2021 1:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
Why such a big difference?



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Because we just make up numbers about everything. Half the people buy it, 1/3rd of the people won't ever dare express their skepticism outside of their homes, and the rest who do we'll just call QAnon or some other stupid name.


All lies.

It's been almost a year and a half now. Either I've never gotten it, or I wasn't even aware that I had it when I did.

Not afraid of your scary little virus dude.

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Wednesday, May 26, 2021 3:20 PM

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Covid-19 vaccines have finally given the US an opportunity to claim a global healthcare success. Today, the country announced that it has fully vaccinated half its population, the first large country to do so. Only Israel, whose population is just over 9 million, Seychelles (population: 100,000), and San Marino (33,000) can boast a higher percentage.

https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/P7l4B/1/
https://qz.com/2012960/the-us-has-vaccinated-50-percent-of-its-populat
ion-against-covid-19
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Wednesday, May 26, 2021 5:49 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Great. So you're vaccinated.

Now shut the fuck up, stop being scared, and re-open everything without passports.

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Wednesday, May 26, 2021 6:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Great. So you're vaccinated.

Now shut the fuck up, stop being scared, and re-open everything without passports.

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For me, the pandemic shut down nothing but daycare. That was a problem solved by convincing employees' mothers to move closer to their children so that Grandma could watch the Grandchildren while Mommy and Daddy worked for Mr. second, who didn't shut down for even one second. I am thankful for the vaccinations because now I don't have to pay the Grandmas' mortgages and miscellaneous expenses, since they've gone home and the grandchildren are back in daycare.
https://www.childcareaware.org/state/texas/

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Wednesday, May 26, 2021 6:13 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Mr. Second didn't shut down because Mr. Second doesn't have a business.

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Methodist Hospital employees sue over vaccine requirement, citing violation of Nuremberg Code
by Robert Downen, Updated: May 28, 2021 2:55 p.m.

In a lawsuit filed Friday in Montgomery County District Court, 117 Methodist employees allege the rule violates their rights under the Nuremberg Code, a set of medical ethics standards that were created in response to Nazi atrocities during World War II.

They allege that, because the three major vaccines have only been approved for “emergency use” by the Federal Drug Administration, they should not be required to take them in order to work for the healthcare provider.

The hospital employs about 26,000 people total, spokesperson Patti Muck said.

The plaintiffs are being represented by Jared Woodfill, a prominent attorney and former chairman of the Harris County GOP who has launched numerous legal challenges related to the pandemic, including a ban on in-person worship services last year.

Woodfill accused the hospital of forcing employees to be “human guinea pigs as a condition for employment.”

He also took issue with marketing materials in which he said the hospital noted its vaccine policy. Woodfill said that shows the hospital’s policy is rooted in financial interests, and accused Methodist CEO Marc Boom of “putting profits over employees to promote Methodist.”

Woodfill said the plaintiffs include some nurses, but that most are not healthcare providers. None are doctors, he said.

In a statement, Boom said 99 percent of Methodist’s 26,000 employees have met the requirements for the hospital’s vaccine rule, and said vaccines are part of the “sacred obligation” required of health care workers.

“It is unfortunate that the few remaining employees who refuse to get vaccinated and put our patients first are responding in this way,” Boom said. “It is legal for health care institutions to mandate vaccines, as we have done with the flu vaccine since 2009. The COVID-19 vaccines have proven through rigorous trials to be very safe and very effective and are not experimental.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20210528203259/https://www.houstonchronicl
e.com/news/houston-texas/health/article/Methodist-Hospital-employees-sue-over-vaccine-16210873.php


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Friday, May 28, 2021 7:05 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



"They allege that, because the three major vaccines have only been approved for “emergency use” by the Federal Drug Administration, they should not be required to take them in order to work for the healthcare provider."

Those hospitals are EMPLOYERS. It's pretty well established they can require what they want as a condition of EMPLOYMENT.

As long as they're not acting in the function of government/ the state - arresting/ jailing/ executing people - I'd wonder if Nuremberg applies.

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

As long as they're not acting in the function of government/ the state - arresting/ jailing/ executing people - I'd wonder if Nuremberg applies.

The chairman of the Harris County GOP wanted to call Democrats a bunch of Nazis, so he brought up the Nuremberg Code. The Code applies to all people, in or out of government, but its not being broken by vaccinating for Covid-19. The chairman of the GOP will lose this case because he doesn't know what he is talking about.

The Nuremberg Code and its impact on clinical research

This written document established 10 ethical principles for protecting human subjects. The Nuremberg Code is one of several foundational documents that influenced the principles of Good Clinical Practice (GCP).

The first trial conducted under the Nuremberg Military Tribunals in 1947 became known as The Doctors’ Trial, in which 23 physicians from the German Nazi Party were tried for crimes against humanity for the atrocious experiments they carried out on unwilling prisoners of war.

The 10 ethical principles are listed at https://www.massdevice.com/the-nuremberg-code-and-its-impact-on-clinic
al-research
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Friday, May 28, 2021 7:38 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Are they principles or law?


Because if not law, then Nuremberg doesn't apply in the courts.

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Friday, May 28, 2021 8:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Are they principles or law?


Because if not law, then Nuremberg doesn't apply in the courts.

Nuremberg does apply in the courts. In a civil trial, the plaintiffs' lawyers don't spend much of their time reading out loud from the law books. Instead, that GOP Chairman, who is also a lawyer, would be reading the Nuremberg Code to a jury in order to persuade them. Then the lawyer for Methodist Hospital would persuade the jury that his esteemed colleague who is suing the hospital is misunderstanding the meaning of the Code. There will probably be an expert witness to explain the Code, but you can read it yourself and come to your own understanding of its meaning:

The Nuremberg Code
https://history.nih.gov/display/history/Nuremberg+Code

Just about any judge would be fascinated by the Nuremberg code and would allow it to be used in a trial, assuming the GOP Chairman actually had a point he was making other than that all Democrats are Nazis, as the Nuremberg Code says they are.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, May 28, 2021 9:14 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



It's amazing how much time you spend gish-galloping about your BS.

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Saturday, May 29, 2021 12:56 AM

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Hey. All I know is there is no fucking way in hell I'm getting any one of those shots.



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Saturday, May 29, 2021 1:37 AM

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Oh Shit... The plot thickens.

It took me a while of researching this to verify that townhall.com wasn't just making shit up. That's because they don't have any real journalists there and offered no citations, instead just linking to an article behind a paywall at theaustrailian.com.au that they basically plagiarized word for word.

Here's the townhall article:
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/05/28/bombshell-fauci-
said-studying-bat-viruses-was-worth-a-potential-pandemic-n2590169


Here's the paywall AU article:
https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/world/anthony-fauci-backed-virus-expe
riments-despite-pandemic-risk/news-story/3c604681cfcbfeda88bac25e372a1b8a


Here's an archive.today snapshot of that AU article that you can read without the paywall:
https://archive.ph/UgiUH



What is the AU article missing, I hear you ask?

The fucking citation to the mystery paper that Fauci wrote in 2012.



But guess what I found...

https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/mBio.00359-12
https://journals.asm.org/doi/epub/10.1128/mBio.00359-12

Somebody ought to offer me a job. I'm so much better than most people are at the careers they've been fumbling their whole lives.



I even archived it twice in case the Leftist Globalists want to try erasing it.

https://archive.ph/WOIes
https://web.archive.org/web/20210529053306/https://journals.asm.org/do
i/10.1128/mBio.00359-12



Enjoy!

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Saturday, May 29, 2021 6:17 AM

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COVID-19 News
https://www.three.fm/news/world-news/covid-19-india-passes-300000-coro
navirus-deaths-as-fatal-black-fungus-brings-new-challenge
/
India passes 300,000 coronavirus deaths - as fatal black fungus brings 'new challenge'

Brazil's coronavirus death toll tops 450,000
https://www.bignewsnetwork.com/news/269637563/brazil-coronavirus-death
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Sunday, May 30, 2021 9:04 AM

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Facebook fires tech who leaked 'vaccine hesitancy' documents to Project Veritas

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/may/29/facebook-whistleblowe
r-who-exposed-vaccine-hesitan
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Wednesday, June 2, 2021 9:25 AM

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Washington Post issues correction on 2020 report on Tom Cotton, lab-leak theory

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/556418-washington-post-issues-corre
ction-on-2020-report-on-tom-cotton-lab-leak-theory


Quote:

The newspaper revised a February 2020 story with the original headline "Tom Cotton keeps repeating a coronavirus conspiracy theory that was already debunked" as top public health experts have begun taking a more serious look at the origins of the coronavirus.

"Earlier versions of this story and its headline inaccurately characterized comments by Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) regarding the origins of the coronavirus. The term 'debunked' and The Post’s use of 'conspiracy theory' have been removed because, then as now, there was no determination about the origins of the virus," reads the Post's correction.

The new headline of the story reads "Tom Cotton keeps repeating a coronavirus fringe theory that scientists have disputed."




In the meantime, how many people were banned off of the various social media platforms for posting about it?

Are they going to get their accounts back now?



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Wednesday, June 2, 2021 4:58 PM

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Fuck lying Fauci and fuck his book of lies.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/faucis-upcoming-bo
ok-scrubbed-amazon-barnes-and-noble-amid-backlash


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Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:47 PM

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Haunting lessons from 40 years of fighting AIDS

The first official report that described AIDS was published in 1981, just as President Ronald Reagan settled into office. While the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) worked tirelessly to elucidate the dimensions of the disease, the White House response was extremely slow, suggesting a profound lack of interest in the fate of the thousands of young, homosexual men. In 1984, Larry Speakes, Reagan’s press secretary, responded to a question about Reagan’s view of AIDS by stating, “I haven’t heard (Reagan) express concern.”

Reagan waited four years into the epidemic – and months after his reelection – to make any public reference to the disease. A senior member of the US Department of Health and Human Services prevented Surgeon General Dr. C Everett Koop from answering any AIDS-related questions at news conferences and he was barred from attending the Executive AIDS Task Force. In 1986, the White House also sought to cut federal funding on AIDS instead of investing in research and developing more programs to confront the problem.

This malign neglect mirrored that of President Donald Trump, who downplayed the severity of Covid-19 and told the American people that “one day … like a miracle it will disappear.” While the White House formed a coronavirus task force, Trump hampered their efforts with tweets and other comments filled with false and misleading information.

When hope vanished that the AIDS epidemic might end quietly, the Reagan team shifted its avoidance strategy. It began to blame foreigners. This approach culminated in a 1987 ban on persons with known HIV infection from entering the United States. It was not lifted until 2009, 22 years later.

The same attempt to distract from the real issue has been tried with Covid-19. In the early days, many sought to blame China – as if establishing a scapegoat would solve anything. (Even though the Biden administration is still reviewing the possibility of a lab leak, there still isn’t conclusive evidence to support that theory.) Later, it became a battle between the states. Last spring, for example, Florida blamed New York for fueling Covid-19 cases. Months later, New York began to point the finger at Florida as a source of the contagion.

The final line of evasion, after Ignoring the problem and pointing fingers fail, is to proclaim that the problem – AIDS, Covid-19 – is wildly overblown or, in the extreme, never existed at all.

This extreme denialism did not overtly take root in the Reagan government though it was – and still is – a core belief of many individuals and even some government leaders. Globally, AIDS denialism has had a tragic impact, causing thousands of deaths because political leaders, particularly former South African President Thabo Mbeki, refused to acknowledge the problem and provided no medical or public health resources.

Similarly, there have been world leaders among extreme minimizers and flat-out deniers whose anti-science attitudes have weakened the public health response to Covid-19 and contributed to their country’s death toll. President Trump’s uncoordinated and at times uncomprehending response seemed to be rooted in his belief that testing, rather than the disease itself, was fueling the epidemic, a form of Covid-19 denialism that undoubtedly contributed to lost American lives.

This type of “hoax-based” thinking has thwarted a broad provision of simple and cheap ways to curb the spread of each virus: for AIDS it was condoms and sex education, for Covid-19 it has been masks, social distancing and now, effective vaccines.

The attitude has also set the stage for our current predicament. It may be impossible to stamp out Covid-19, despite the existence of effective vaccines; similarly, HIV continues to spread despite the fact that effective therapy was introduced nearly 25 years ago. This is not a surprise – pills and shots are never sufficient to stop an infectious disease; people need to know how to prevent transmission and any drugs or vaccines need to be widely accessible. Most importantly, people must be willing to take them.

As we have seen, public health is not just a medical science but rather a societal collision of many things, including epidemiology, superstition, feuds, Grandma’s advice, bad habits, avarice and heart-gripping fear. Clinical work is the easy part. The scientific tangle of viral variants seems a small problem when measured against the difficulties created by a hardened nonbeliever or the cheap assurance of a government official in a hurry.

More at https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/01/opinions/aids-40-years-covid-opinion-se
pkowitz/index.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Reviewing the Evidence: Do Lockdowns Reduce the Spread of COVID-19?

Author Kevin Drum
Published on June 2, 2021 – 3:02 pm

My homework assignment today was to figure out if COVID-19 lockdown restrictions have been effective in reducing COVID-19 cases. I spent some time googling around, and what I discovered is that (a) conservative publications all have charts showing there's no correlation, while (b) academic papers all show a positive correlation. Hmmm.

The problem is that there are a million ways to measure this, and it's pretty easy to keep slogging away until you find one that fits your ideology.

More at https://jabberwocking.com/reviewing-the-evidence-do-lockdowns-reduce-t
he-spread-of-covid-19
/

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Thursday, June 3, 2021 7:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Reviewing the Evidence: Do Lockdowns Reduce the Spread of COVID-19?

Author Kevin Drum
Published on June 2, 2021 – 3:02 pm

My homework assignment today was to figure out if COVID-19 lockdown restrictions have been effective in reducing COVID-19 cases. I spent some time googling around, and what I discovered is that (a) conservative publications all have charts showing there's no correlation, while (b) academic (Liberal) papers all show a positive correlation. Hmmm.



FIFY

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The problem is that there are a million ways to measure this, and it's pretty easy to keep slogging away until you find one that fits your ideology.


Yup.



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Thursday, June 3, 2021 7:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Haunting lessons from 40 years of fighting AIDS

The first official report that described AIDS was published in 1981, just as President Ronald Reagan settled into office. While the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) worked tirelessly to elucidate the dimensions of the disease, the White House response was extremely slow, suggesting a profound lack of interest in the fate of the thousands of young, homosexual men. In 1984, Larry Speakes, Reagan’s press secretary, responded to a question about Reagan’s view of AIDS by stating, “I haven’t heard (Reagan) express concern.”

Reagan waited four years into the epidemic – and months after his reelection – to make any public reference to the disease. A senior member of the US Department of Health and Human Services prevented Surgeon General Dr. C Everett Koop from answering any AIDS-related questions at news conferences and he was barred from attending the Executive AIDS Task Force. In 1986, the White House also sought to cut federal funding on AIDS instead of investing in research and developing more programs to confront the problem.

This malign neglect mirrored that of President Donald Trump, who downplayed the severity of Covid-19 and told the American people that “one day … like a miracle it will disappear.” While the White House formed a coronavirus task force, Trump hampered their efforts with tweets and other comments filled with false and misleading information.

When hope vanished that the AIDS epidemic might end quietly, the Reagan team shifted its avoidance strategy. It began to blame foreigners. This approach culminated in a 1987 ban on persons with known HIV infection from entering the United States. It was not lifted until 2009, 22 years later.

The same attempt to distract from the real issue has been tried with Covid-19. In the early days, many sought to blame China – as if establishing a scapegoat would solve anything. (Even though the Biden administration is still reviewing the possibility of a lab leak, there still isn’t conclusive evidence to support that theory.) Later, it became a battle between the states. Last spring, for example, Florida blamed New York for fueling Covid-19 cases. Months later, New York began to point the finger at Florida as a source of the contagion.

The final line of evasion, after Ignoring the problem and pointing fingers fail, is to proclaim that the problem – AIDS, Covid-19 – is wildly overblown or, in the extreme, never existed at all.

This extreme denialism did not overtly take root in the Reagan government though it was – and still is – a core belief of many individuals and even some government leaders. Globally, AIDS denialism has had a tragic impact, causing thousands of deaths because political leaders, particularly former South African President Thabo Mbeki, refused to acknowledge the problem and provided no medical or public health resources.

Similarly, there have been world leaders among extreme minimizers and flat-out deniers whose anti-science attitudes have weakened the public health response to Covid-19 and contributed to their country’s death toll. President Trump’s uncoordinated and at times uncomprehending response seemed to be rooted in his belief that testing, rather than the disease itself, was fueling the epidemic, a form of Covid-19 denialism that undoubtedly contributed to lost American lives.

This type of “hoax-based” thinking has thwarted a broad provision of simple and cheap ways to curb the spread of each virus: for AIDS it was condoms and sex education, for Covid-19 it has been masks, social distancing and now, effective vaccines.

The attitude has also set the stage for our current predicament. It may be impossible to stamp out Covid-19, despite the existence of effective vaccines; similarly, HIV continues to spread despite the fact that effective therapy was introduced nearly 25 years ago. This is not a surprise – pills and shots are never sufficient to stop an infectious disease; people need to know how to prevent transmission and any drugs or vaccines need to be widely accessible. Most importantly, people must be willing to take them.

As we have seen, public health is not just a medical science but rather a societal collision of many things, including epidemiology, superstition, feuds, Grandma’s advice, bad habits, avarice and heart-gripping fear. Clinical work is the easy part. The scientific tangle of viral variants seems a small problem when measured against the difficulties created by a hardened nonbeliever or the cheap assurance of a government official in a hurry.

More at https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/01/opinions/aids-40-years-covid-opinion-se
pkowitz/index.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



That's fine. Your Leftist school system spent the next decade terrorizing white 2nd graders and making them think if they had sex they were going to die of AIDS.

Meanwhile, 40 years later, 99% of people in America don't know anybody who has AIDS.

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Thursday, June 3, 2021 8:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

That's fine. Your Leftist school system spent the next decade terrorizing white 2nd graders and making them think if they had sex they were going to die of AIDS.

Meanwhile, 40 years later, 99% of people in America don't know anybody who has AIDS.

You mean 99% of Trumptards don't know. Related: 99% of Trumptards don't know about Trump's new blog, which is why his blog failed and was shutdown. A thousand times Trump said the NYTimes was failing, but he failed first and fast. --
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-s-blog-was-shut-down-for-
one-simple-reason/ar-AAKE1Bf


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Thursday, June 3, 2021 8:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

That's fine. Your Leftist school system spent the next decade terrorizing white 2nd graders and making them think if they had sex they were going to die of AIDS.

Meanwhile, 40 years later, 99% of people in America don't know anybody who has AIDS.

You mean 99% of Trumptards don't know.



No. I didn't stutter. 99% of all Americans do not know a single person with AIDS.

Quote:

Related: 99% of Trumptards don't know about Trump's new blog, which is why his blog failed and was shutdown. A thousand times Trump said the NYTimes was failing, but he failed first and fast. --
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-s-blog-was-shut-down-for-
one-simple-reason/ar-AAKE1Bf


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



I already debunked that when Ted brought it up yesterday, dummy.

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61761&mid=11345
54#1134554

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61761&mid=11345
56#1134556


Websites are practically free to run, particularly for somebody with Trump's money.

Do you honestly believe, even for one second, that Trump would stop posting messages even if he knew he was the only person in the world still reading them?

You know the answer to that question is no. So instead of spreading lies that aren't going to serve any purpose for you, why don't you try to figure out what he's got up his sleeve?



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Thursday, June 3, 2021 8:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I already debunked that when Ted brought it up yesterday, dummy.

You debunked nothing, 6ix. You and Trump and most of the Trumptards I know have diarrhea of the mouth. It is effortless for Trumptards, especially Trump, to fill a toilet bowl full of words for a blog or any other platform, but Trump stopped blogging when he lost 99% of his audience, mostly because his 99% are too stupid to find him with a google search. Trump needs to educate his cult followers about where he will have his next bout of diarrhea so they can watch Trump pull down his pants in public, grunt and listen to the sounds of his empty words splashing into the bowl. Trumptards are easily impressed by his hour long extemporaneous speeches, seemingly unaware its only a bowel movement they are listening to. Watch any Trump Covid-19 briefing and Trump's unpreparedness shows clearly, but Trumptards never noticed.

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Thursday, June 3, 2021 8:39 AM

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Nah. I debunked it.

Go pick fights with somebody else, dummy. You're entire existence is boring to me.

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Nah. I debunked it.

Go pick fights with somebody else, dummy. You're entire existence is boring to me.

I see the same problem with Trumptards in the real world. Nobody can convince a Texas Trumptard he is wrong. Even bankruptcy, divorce, or their kid going to jail because their daddy, the Trumptard, knows nothing about children will ever convince a Trumptard that he doesn't know as much as he thinks he does. It's why Trumptards struggle to stay in the middle class: they learn slowly and, often, too late. It's why Trumptards blame Democrats: Trumptards needs to blame somebody, but won't place the blame exactly where it belongs ... all on themselves.

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Thursday, June 3, 2021 9:09 AM

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lol

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
lol

6ix, the joke is on you. Trumpism is much more than attributes and definitions: Trumpism offers a solution for the deep resentment its followers feel toward other individuals and groups they deem to have somehow hurt them. Such resentments are often focused on ideas such as "progress" or the "future" — in the case of Trumpism, on "political correctness" and "cancel culture" and "liberal elites" who want to tell "people like us" in the "heartland" what to do.

More at Donald Trump is an idea, not a man
www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/donald-trump-is-an-idea-not-a-man-and-t
hat-s-why-his-movement-is-so-dangerous/ar-AAKFfOU


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A Trump-size hurdle for Biden’s vax goal

Biden will try to put at least one Covid vaccine dose in the arms of 70 percent of all American adults by Independence Day. Twelve states, according to the White House, have already vaccinated at least 70 percent of their adult population. Every one of them voted for Biden in 2020. States with the lowest vax rate voted for . . . Trump.

Biden pushed back against the politicization of Covid today, telling Americans that getting vaccinated is “not a partisan act.” The science was conducted under a Republican and a Democratic administration, he emphasized, and the first vaccines were authorized under Trump.

The national political divide over vaccines exists inside states, too. While it’s true that the New England states are majority white, educated and liberal leaning — all factors that play into the region’s high vax numbers — there are pockets of rural, vaccine-hesitant populations. In Vermont’s Essex County, 54 percent of voters went for former President Donald Trump in 2020. It’s the only county in the state that Biden lost. And it’s the outlier for vaccine rates in the nation’s most-vaccinated state. Only about 48 percent of the county is fully vaccinated.

www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-nightly/2021/06/02/a-trump-size-
hurdle-for-bidens-vax-goal-493090


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Thursday, June 3, 2021 2:23 PM

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There's no joke on me dummy.

I'm thriving right now.

You're the one constantly bitching about everything every damn day.

Why don't you go do something productive instead of playing with yourself all day long?

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Friday, June 4, 2021 6:45 AM

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Covid Deaths

601,407

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Friday, June 4, 2021 11:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Covid Deaths

601,407



Lie.

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Sunday, June 6, 2021 10:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Yanno, JACK, if you REALLY want to make a case about how doing nothing about COVID-19 is such a great idea, work on telling us what's great about Brazil.




It appears that even Vox is capable of doing reporting when Trump isn't around. They can answer that for you with 20/20 hindsight.


Quote:

California mandated masks. Florida opened its restaurants. Did any of it matter?


https://www.vox.com/coronavirus-covid19/22456544/covid-19-mask-mandate
s-lockdown-debate-evidence


Quote:

After a year of debates over mask mandates, lockdowns, and school closures, that mixed evidence might suggest a certain fatalism: Did none of these state policies really matter? Or was the virus going to spread no matter what states did? Was it all for nothing?


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK; August 9th, 2020:
You're going to get it, idiot.

Everybody is.

Sweet dreams, Second.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



I know I've said this quite a bit. Almost certainly before August 9th of last year. But it was the first mention of it I made in this specific thread using that specific verbiage, and I'm not going to go pouring back through all the covid threads in here. The point is already made.

I win. We all lose.



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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

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