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It went all the way back to the government using Pinkerton to bust up unions for business, yellow journalism to whip up war frenzy, etc.

6ix, if you've already answered my ?? about how measles vaccine is different from Covid-19 vaccine, I must have missed it. The rationale for vaccination is the same in both cases. So, what's the diff?

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Looks like you can go back and fucking look for it then.

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These groups tend to portray vaccines as a symbol of excessive government control. “If less people get vaccinated then the system will have to use more aggressive force on the rest of us to make us get the shot,” read a recent post on the Telegram social media platform, in a channel linked to members of the Proud Boys charged in storming the Capitol.

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Apocalyptic warnings about the vaccine feed into the far-right narrative that the government cannot be trusted, the sentiment also at the root of the Jan. 6 Capitol riot. The more vaccine opponents succeed in preventing or at least delaying herd immunity, experts noted, the longer it will take for life to return to normal and that will further undermine faith in the government and its institutions.

On Jan. 6, while rioters advanced on the U.S. Capitol, numerous leading figures in the anti-vaccination movement were onstage nearby, holding their own rally to attack both the election results and COVID-19 vaccinations.

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GOP mistrust runs deep. Maligning the coronavirus vaccines is obviously not limited to extremist groups tied to the Capitol riot. There is deep partisanship over the vaccines generally. One-third of Republicans surveyed in a CBS News poll said that they would avoid getting vaccinated and another 20% of Republicans said they were unsure. Other polls found similar trends.

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Originally posted by second:
You might be able to discover what is really motivating 6ix by not asking 6ix. Instead, find out what is motivating other people who feel the same as 6ix about the Covid-19 vaccines. Then you might better know 6ix:

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You might be able to discover what is really motivating 6ix by not asking 6ix. Instead, find out what is motivating other people who feel the same as 6ix about the Covid-19 vaccines. Then you might better know 6ix:

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Wrong.

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I found out what is going on in the minds of anti-vaxxers:

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1KIKI:
Jack, the government using corporations to skirt the Constitution IS NOT NEW.

It's been going on at least since the US PATRIOT ACT v1, the US wiretap at the San Fran AT&T telephone offices, and the US government 'data center' at Utah, all of which got a lot of discussion and reference.

You're just late to the party. I suspect that's because you were SO buried in your state of denial (to deal with your paranoia-triggered anxiety), you decided it didn't matter back then, and you intentionally wrote it off.

**NOW** - when it's about something that's actually penetrated your denial - you've finally come around.

SIX: I don't ever want to hear a fucking word out of either of you about freedom of speech again.

ETA: I have no fucking idea what "denial" you're talking about either. Aside from maybe FREM, I was the loudest voice against the Patriot Act on this whole goddamned site and knew more about it back in the mid 2000's than you could ever pretend to know.

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1KIKI:
Jack, the government using corporations to skirt the Constitution IS NOT NEW.

It's been going on at least since the US PATRIOT ACT v1, the US wiretap at the San Fran AT&T telephone offices, and the US government 'data center' at Utah, all of which got a lot of discussion and reference.

You're just late to the party. I suspect that's because you were SO buried in your state of denial (to deal with your paranoia-triggered anxiety), you decided it didn't matter back then, and you intentionally wrote it off.

**NOW** - when it's about something that's actually penetrated your denial - you've finally come around.

SIX: I don't ever want to hear a fucking word out of either of you about freedom of speech again.

ETA: I have no fucking idea what "denial" you're talking about either. Aside from maybe FREM, I was the loudest voice against the Patriot Act on this whole goddamned site and knew more about it back in the mid 2000's than you could ever pretend to know.

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Yanno, that's funny, because I WAS posting about all of this back then, and I recall a lot of people from about that time - KWICKO, GEEZER, FINN, NIKI, FREM, BYTEMITE, AURAPTOR, HERO, SOUPCATCHER, ANTHONY, SARGEX etc... and I don't ever recall running across your name. Not even once. If you were posting then, it must not have made much of an impression either way. Were you posting under a different name? Or in a different forum?

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THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

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Like Apolipoprotein A (roto-rooter for blood vessels) it seems to have been dropped by big pharma, if it hasn't been effectively buried.

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Like Apolipoprotein A (roto-rooter for blood vessels) it seems to have been dropped by big pharma, if it hasn't been effectively buried.

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Like that room-temperature, self-heating, base-metal-using catalyst that turns wet, contaminated ethanol more than 100% into H2 and O2 (it transforms some of the water, too), that would make ethanol/electric fuel-cell vehicles completely commonplace, got buried as well ... No need for a pressurized H2 explosion-capable infrastructure! No need to do anything to the gas stations except fill them with ethanol instead of gasoline! No need for IC/ electric dual-capability cars! Direct electric drive, go-anywhere, refill anywhere vehicles made possible!


That was at least 15 years ago. I wonder whatever happened to it?

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More and more evidence is coming out that SARS-CoV-2 is human-engineered, with this as a more recent example. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9658851/Genome-sequencing-cer
tainly-proves-COVID-deliberately-lab-experts-claim.html?ci=220795&si=24162156&ai=9658851 . This is an idea I've been pretty much OK with from the very beginning. But the evidence for an early spread - earlier than the Wuhan 'wet market' event - is something that's stuck in my mind. To me the question has been who released it, when, how, and why. And the US is not off the hook. And the harder tptb now point to a Wuhan accidental lab release - the exact same way they insisted it was a naturally occurring virus not from the lab - the more I'm inclined to look elsewhere.

Lab created? IMO probably. Wuhan Institute of Virology lab accident? An open question.

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New Study Links Ivermectin to ‘Large Reductions’ in COVID-19 Deaths
By Tom Ozimek
June 21, 2021 Updated: June 21, 2021


The use of the antiparasitic drug ivermectin could lead to “large reductions” in COVID-19 deaths and may have a “significant impact” on the pandemic globally, according to a recent pre-print review based on peer-reviewed studies.

For the study (pdf), published June 17 in the American Journal of Therapeutics, a group of scientists reviewed the clinical trial use of ivermectin, which has antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties, in 24 randomized controlled trials involving just more than 3,400 participants. The researchers sought to assess the efficacy of ivermectin in reducing infection or mortality in people with COVID-19 or at high risk of getting it.

Using multiple methods of sequential analysis, the researchers concluded with a moderate level of confidence that the drug reduced the risk of death in COVID-19 patients by an average of 62 percent, at a 95 percent confidence interval of 0.19–0.79, in a sample of 2,438 patients.

Among hospitalized COVID-19 patients, the risk of death was found to be 2.3 percent among those treated with the drug, compared to 7.8 percent for those who weren’t, according to the review.

“Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease,” the authors wrote.

Since the start of the pandemic, both observational and randomized studies have evaluated ivermectin as a treatment for, and as prevention against, COVID-19 infection.

“A review by the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance summarized findings from 27 studies on the effects of ivermectin for the prevention and treatment of COVID-19 infection, concluding that ivermectin ‘demonstrates a strong signal of therapeutic efficacy’ against COVID-19,” the researchers wrote, referring to one recent review, which was based on data from both peer-reviewed studies and pre-print manuscripts.

They cited another recent review that concluded that ivermectin reduced deaths by as much as 75 percent, while noting that neither the National Institutes of Health in the United States nor the World Health Organization (WHO) has recommended the use of ivermectin outside clinical trials for use against COVID-19.

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA), in a note on “Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19,” warns that it has received “multiple reports of patients who have required medical support and been hospitalized after self-medicating with ivermectin intended for horses.”

“Using any treatment for COVID-19 that’s not approved or authorized by the FDA, unless part of a clinical trial, can cause serious harm,” the FDA said in the note, adding that it hasn’t reviewed data to support the use of ivermectin in COVID-19 patients.

The WHO said in March that “the current evidence on the use of ivermectin to treat COVID-19 patients is inconclusive” and that, until more data becomes available, the agency recommends that “the drug only be used within clinical trials.”

The authors of the efficacy study argued, however, that the drug has an “established safety profile through decades of use” and “could play a critical role in suppressing or even ending the SARS-CoV2 pandemic.”

“The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally,” they wrote in the study abstract.

The authors noted in their publication that all the studies on which they based their conclusions have been peer-reviewed.

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Half of Adults Infected in Latest COVID-19 Outbreak Were Fully Vaccinated: Israeli Official
By Jack Phillips June 25, 2021 Updated: June 25, 2021

About 90 percent of new COVID-19 infections in Israel were caused by the CCP virus’s Delta variant, officials said, while adding that about half of the adults infected in the recent outbreak were fully vaccinated.

Ran Balicer, who leads an expert advisory panel for the Israeli government, in announcing the finding on Friday, said that the country might end up implementing another lockdown after opening up earlier this year, according to the Wall Street Journal. The fully vaccinated individuals were inoculated with the Pfizer COVID-19 shot commonly used in Israel.

“The entrance of the delta variant has changed the transition dynamics,” he noted, referring to the B.1.617.2 strain of COVID-19 that has now been detected in more than 70 countries. COVID-19 is the illness caused by the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus, otherwise known as the novel coronavirus.

New cases of the virus rose to more than 200 on Thursday, from around 10 per day in most of June, officials said.

And on Friday, Israeli authorities told residents that they must again have to wear masks again indoors, reported Reuters.

The health ministry reimposed the mask requirement for all indoor settings except the home, and said it was also recommending masks be worn at large outdoor gatherings, specifically mentioning gay pride events taking place around Israel this weekend.

Some 55 percent of Israel’s 9.3 million population have received both doses of the Pfizer vaccine, officials said. Eligibility was extended to 12- to 15-year-olds in May.

“Our goal at the moment, first and foremost, is to safeguard the citizens of Israel from the Delta variant that is running amok in the world,” Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett said Wednesday, reported the WSJ.

The reimposition of the country’s mask mandate and potentially a new lockdown is sure to prompt questions about the general effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines—and amid reports of so-called “breakthrough” cases in recent weeks.

Earlier this month, for example, nearly 4,000 fully vaccinated people in Massachusetts tested positive for the CCP virus, according to health officials in the state.

“We’re learning that many of the breakthrough infections are asymptomatic or they’re very mild and brief in duration,” said Boston University infectious diseases specialist Davidson Hamer, the Boston Herald reported. “The viral load is not very high.”

“Breakthroughs are expected, and we need to better understand who’s at risk and whether people who have a breakthrough can transmit the virus to others,” Hamer said. “In some cases, they’ll be shedding such low levels of the virus and won’t be transmitting to others.”

And on April 30, the CDC reported that some 10,626 breakthrough cases were reported in 46 states and territories.

The World Health Organization (WHO) says on its website that COVID-19 vaccines should work against the Delta strain as well as other COVID-19 variants.

However, the U.N. agency warned that “changes or mutations in the virus should not make vaccines completely ineffective,” adding that if the “vaccines prove to be less effective against one or more variants, it will be possible to change the composition of the vaccines to protect against these variants.”

The Epoch Times has contacted Pfizer for comment.

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]Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Not sure if this covered here already.



https://www.resetera.com/threads/double-cgg-and-covid-wsj-oped.438079/
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nce%20is,that%20the%20virus%20was%20developed%20in%20a%20laboratory.

Double cgg genetic sequence only found in Gain-Of-Function research, never found in nature.

Wuhan demanded that NIH in USA delete from their database the fact that this genetic sequence was in the Wuhan Flu covid.

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]Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Not sure if this covered here already.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/double-cgg-a
nd-covid-wsj-oped.438079/#:~:text=The%20pres
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Double cgg genetic sequence only found in Gain-Of-Function research, never found in nature.

Wuhan demanded that NIH in USA delete from their database the fact that this genetic sequence was in the Wuhan Flu covid.

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Already covered in great detail by Dr. Chris Martenson many months ago. Aside from the fact that the epidemic started in Wuhan, site of a virus research lab which was studying EXACTLY bat-sourced SARS viruses for gain of function, the presence of parts of spike protein which only appear is other viruses genomically far far away from the virus in question tips the odds in favor of manmade.

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Chris Martenson, Peak Prosperity, thinks that some researchers have found the "smoking gun" that points to this virus being lab-modified. There is a 12-nucleotide insert in the spike protein which does not appear in ANY other near-relation coronavirus which makes this virus much more efficient at infecting cells ("gain of function").

While gain of function research was being done on bat coronaviruses in the Wuhan lab, it was actually being FUNDED by Fauci's group.

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Oh, fwiw, there's a new variant that's even worse than Delta, colloquially called the Delta+ variant.

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... more than 50% of COVID-19 cases from the Delta variant were the breakthrough infections ...
https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/rest-of-the-world-news/covid-
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it reported a Delta variant surge that infected nearly 50 percent of the country’s vaccinated population.

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As of June 24, about 57% of Israel's population was fully vaccinated, according to John Hopkins University data.
An analysis by UK health officials found that two doses of Pfizer's vaccine were 88% effective (what does that mean?) against Delta, while a single shot was just 33% effective. That's compared to 95% efficacy against the original strain, with 52% after one shot.
In the UK, where the Delta variant makes up more than 90% of cases, 26 of 73 total deaths associated with Delta were among people who had been fully vaccinated, according to The Telegraph.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/israel-says-the-delta-variant
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Oh, fwiw, there's a new variant that's even worse than Delta, colloquially called the Delta+ variant.

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Delta+ you say?

Sounds Double+ Ungood.

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JSF: Here is the origianlpost which I believe addresses your point

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Chris Martenson, Peak Prosperity, thinks that some researchers have found the "smoking gun" that points to this virus being lab-modified. There is a 12-nucleotide insert in the spike protein which does not appear in ANY other near-relation coronavirus which makes this virus much more efficient at infecting cells ("gain of function").

While gain of function research was being done on bat coronaviruses in the Wuhan lab, it was actually being FUNDED by Fauci's group.

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http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63473&p=31

I would have to listen to the whole video again to make sure that we're both talking about the exact same genomic sequence, but in this video this sequence makes the fusion of virus to human cell much, much more efficient.

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When the "AIDS Virus" which paralleled Drug addiction promiscuous gay male sex in America and wealthy Europe failed to materialize exploded in Africa, which the AIDS Religion foretold would happen, They proclaimed that in Africa, this same "AIDS Virus" paralleled starvation promiscuous male sex and war where all of the population was starving.

Remember? They needed to come up with an excuse for this logic fail, so they called it "Strain B" which only existed in the delusions of the Africans, The vast majority of Africans are infected with the 'western' version of HIV. and Strain A was the one which only existed in the minds of the nations with rampant Drug Abuse while a significant minority of western HIV-postive people are infected with the 'W African' strain. .

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Altogether in the US, more than 4,100 people have been hospitalised or died after catching Covid-19 post-vaccination

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Oh, fwiw, there's a new variant that's even worse than Delta, colloquially called the Delta+ variant.

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Maybe you are forgetting the Religion that they follow, that Fauci has spent his entire career failing at, the template for this type of Rabbit Hole.

When the "AIDS Virus" which symptoms paralleled Drug addiction in America and wealthy Europe failed to materialize in Africa, which the AIDS Religion foretold would happen, They proclaimed that in Africa, this same "AIDS Virus" with symptoms paralleling starvation, where all of the population was starving.
Remember? They needed to come up with an excuse for this logic fail, so they called it "Strain B" which only existed in the delusions of the Africans, and Strain A was the one which only existed in the minds of the nations with rampant Drug Abuse.

So now that Fauci has unleashed the covid upon the world, the more Super-Dooper Uber fantastic Great versions shall be called "Strains" or "variants."
The worst versions are scheduled for release and Lockdowns in 2022 and 2024, so those Elections can be stolen as well, which was the entire purpose of Fauci unleasing it in time for 2020.

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L.A. County urges everyone to wear mask indoors as Delta variant spreads

... in public indoor spaces — regardless of whether they’ve been vaccinated for COVID-19. “Until we better understand how and to who the Delta variant is spreading, everyone should focus on maximum protection with minimum interruption to routine as all businesses operate without other restrictions, like physical distancing and capacity limits ... (though) fully vaccinated people appear to be well protected from infections with Delta variants ... preventing hospitalizations and deaths ...”

https://todaynewspost.com/news/us-news/l-a-county-urges-everyone-to-we
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1KIKI:
L.A. County urges everyone to wear mask indoors as Delta variant spreads

... in public indoor spaces — regardless of whether they’ve been vaccinated for COVID-19. “Until we better understand how and to who the Delta variant is spreading, everyone should focus on maximum protection with minimum interruption to routine as all businesses operate without other restrictions, like physical distancing and capacity limits ... (though) fully vaccinated people appear to be well protected from infections with Delta variants ... preventing hospitalizations and deaths ...”

https://todaynewspost.com/news/us-news/l-a-county-urges-everyone-to-we
ar-mask-indoors-as-delta-variant-spreads/

SIX: Covid-20 is coming...

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Almost a year and a half and I still no nobody who knows anybody who's even been one of the lies.

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Almost a year and a half and I still no nobody who knows anybody who's even been one of the lies.

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1KIKI:
L.A. County urges everyone to wear mask indoors as Delta variant spreads

... in public indoor spaces — regardless of whether they’ve been vaccinated for COVID-19. “Until we better understand how and to who the Delta variant is spreading, everyone should focus on maximum protection with minimum interruption to routine as all businesses operate without other restrictions, like physical distancing and capacity limits ... (though) fully vaccinated people appear to be well protected from infections with Delta variants ... preventing hospitalizations and deaths ...”

https://todaynewspost.com/news/us-news/l-a-county-urges-everyone-to-we
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SIX: Covid-20 is coming...

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Almost a year and a half and I still no nobody who knows anybody who's even been one of the lies.

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I posted this a few times before, SIX, but it musta bounced off your skull: I PERSONALLY KNOW two people who died of Covid-19. One whose systems were frail... but it was Covid-19 who pushed her over the edge. Another who was fairly robust, who worked as a home health aide, and Covid-19 DEFINITELY shortened her lifespan by about 20 years!

Get a clue, SIX. Just because the pandemic was weaponized doesn't mean it isn't real.

Here's an analogy you might understand: The issue of overpopulation can also be weaponized, but it is ALSO real.

Or stay as deep in denial as you are. People who only hear what they want to hear... and there's a whole host of them here, including you, SIX .... well, mere facts will never change your minds.

Just please, stop repeating this non-fact:

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Almost a year and a half and I still no nobody who knows anybody who's even been one of the lies.

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I get tired of repeating what I've already posted a few times already.

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