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Hollywood expensive movies keep crashing, what will be the next box office Flop?

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Movie Budgets Are Out Of Control And It’s Destroying Hollywood

By Jonathan Klotz | July 7, 2023

Limitations breed creativity, which is why the original Star Wars trilogy is better than the Disney films, and why the latest blockbusters seem to be the same movie we’ve seen hundreds of times. Scaling back production budgets and cutting back the inane marketing, which most people tune out anyways, is the easiest way for Hollywood to start making money again.

And hopefully, in doing so, they make movies people want to see.

Hollywood studios are facing a disaster of their own making this year, facing declining box office returns, but it’s not audience apathy in the latest films about family, remakes, and sequels that are proving to be destructive. The biggest problem is rapidly ballooning movie budgets that require a film to earn over $750 million before it turns a profit.

Movie budgets are astronomically high and it’s resulted in every blockbuster to be branded as a failure, financially and creatively.

Studios are usually secretive about production budgets, but even the numbers that are shared are eye-popping; for example, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny had a budget of $300 million (all budgets via BoxOfficeMojo). That’s enough for #11 all-time, but it’s not even the highest of the year.

Fast X was made with a budget of $340 million, making it more expensive than Avengers: Infinity War and Justice League. That means, in order to turn a profit, Vin Diesel‘s latest would need to earn $680 million, which it did, with a worldwide gross of $720 million. Yet the film still managed to lose money for Universal.

Movie budgets hitting all-time highs are only one part of the problem since they don’t include whatever was spent on marketing. Every television ad, every billboard, and every restaurant promotion costs money. For blockbusters, the marketing budget can match production; using the example of Dial of Destiny, the marketing was an additional $100 to $200 million.

More at https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/movie-budgets-destroying-hollywo
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Saturday, July 8, 2023 9:21 AM

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Budgets for Hollywood movies are out-of-control, but do you want to know where Hollywood has cutback spending? The pay to writers. The following article describes how Hollywood abuses its writers. It is no surprise that Hollywood movies are crap because, if the big-shots can't understand how to be civilized and decent with their writers the big-shots can't understand their audiences, either.

July 7, 2023

POV: I’m an experienced screenwriter — and I’m also on welfare. My story highlights the importance of the writers’ strike

Unfortunately, being a screenwriter is a job for rich people.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90918934/my-story-highlights-the-importanc
e-of-the-writers-strike


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, July 8, 2023 11:11 AM

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Budgets for Hollywood movies are out-of-control, but do you want to know where Hollywood has cutback spending? The pay to writers. The following article describes how Hollywood abuses its writers. It is no surprise that Hollywood movies are crap because, if the big-shots can't understand how to be civilized and decent with their writers the big-shots can't understand their audiences, either.

July 7, 2023

POV: I’m an experienced screenwriter — and I’m also on welfare. My story highlights the importance of the writers’ strike

Unfortunately, being a screenwriter is a job for rich people.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90918934/my-story-highlights-the-importanc
e-of-the-writers-strike


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




Almost nobody hired to do the job is any good at it. There's a few reasons for this:

1. The industry has done what every other industry does and pushed out the expensive talent in favor of paying young people with little experience very little money to do the job.

2. These young people tick all the right boxes, whether they be the diversity hires that the studios are looking for themselves, or they are young college-educated kids who are fully on board with the messaging the studios want to put out there.

3. Hollywood makes the mistake of hiring almost exclusively out of California, which means that the writers are completely out of touch not just with the rest of the country, but the rest of the entire world.


If we were anywhere between the 1930s and the early 2000's the idea of replacing writers with AI would be inconceivable. But with the style and ability the current crop of Hollywood writers possess, they're not doing anything that AI can't already do better. THAT is how Hollywood is going to fix the problem of not paying their writers enough money. They're just going to stop paying them altogether because their jobs won't even exist anymore.

AI, at least what is available to civilians in current year, is not capable of doing everything on its own, so this will not be a fully automated process. But they'll just need a few editors to take what the AI makes and alter it to come off more human and sand off the rough edges. This will be especially valuable to the production companies in charge of late-night talk shows and things like SNL. Why pay an entire room of middle-talent, mostly unfunny people to write this stuff when you can just pay one or two people to sift through all of the AI generated jokes and punch them up to work right?

Strangely, if done right, this could actually make for much better shows. With the money freed up by not paying 20 always-angry people with an agenda that used to write unfunny jokes on a show, they could hire 2 or 3 ACTUALLY TALENTED people to dress up the AI inspired jokes and you could end up with TV shows that are actually capable of making people laugh again.

But that's only going to work if Hollywood decides it wants to make money again instead of always preaching to the audience. AI can also be extremely capable at being just as bad of a writer as the worst writers in Hollywood today too, if that's what they're going for.

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Friday, July 21, 2023 6:42 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


‘Blue Beetle’ Box Office Prediction: Can the Second-to-Last DCEU Movie Break Even at Least?

https://www.comicbasics.com/blue-beetle-box-office-prediction/

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Saturday, July 22, 2023 4:36 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Blockbusters are failing spectacularly, but how that changes Hollywood is anyone's guess

https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/box-office-slump-2023-1.6906554

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When studios can say that a movie succeeded on a streaming platform without an independent way to verify the claim, it makes it impossible to identify the true failures.

"'Big flop' as a term, or 'bomb,' doesn't mean anything," Michael said. "They keep those numbers to themselves, and there's no clear metric like a ticket sale.

"If a studio has a choice, they're not going to set up a second paradigm where they have to constantly announce that these plans backfire or these embarrassing flops."


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Saturday, August 19, 2023 8:54 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Barbie and Oppenheimer made money but...

There is that Predictions thread

“Blue Beetle” Writer Joins Picket Line Amid Movie Release – Hollywood Reporter
https://www.alaskacommons.com/blue-beetle-writer-joins-picket-line-ami
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