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Countdown Clock Until Vladimir Putins' Rule Ends

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Monday, September 12, 2022 5:41 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

Signy

I see. Indeed, the troll STILL has nothing to say.








How's this comrade? Please, can_you_see_me_laughing???

T



Deputies from 18 municipal districts in Moscow, St. Petersburg and Kolpino have called for Russian President Vladimir Putin’s resignation, according to a petition with a list of signatures posted on Twitter.





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Monday, September 12, 2022 5:46 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Oh dear. THUGR ran out of anything credible to say.

Soon, he will be posting picture of pigs.

HAHAHAHA!






T





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Monday, September 12, 2022 7:10 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Putins' Rule Is Ending



This thread won't age well.


Are we going to put a Tick Tock on it and celebrate it's 3rd birthday in 2025 then, Ted?

Idiot.

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Tuesday, September 13, 2022 3:32 PM

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It’s Time to Prepare for a Ukrainian Victory

The liberation of Russian-occupied territory might bring down Vladimir Putin.

To be clear: This is not a prediction; it’s a warning. Many things about the current Russian political system are strange, and one of the strangest is the total absence of a mechanism for succession. Not only do we have no idea who would or could replace Putin; we have no idea who would or could choose that person.

In the Soviet Union there was a Politburo, a group of people that could theoretically make such a decision, and very occasionally did. By contrast, there is no transition mechanism in Russia. There is no dauphin. Putin has refused even to allow Russians to contemplate an alternative to his seedy and corrupt brand of kleptocratic power.

Nevertheless, I repeat: It is inconceivable that Putin can continue to rule if the centerpiece of his claim to legitimacy — his promise to put the Soviet Union back together again — proves not just impossible but laughable.

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20220913054726/https://www.theatlantic.com
/ideas/archive/2022/09/ukraine-victory-russia-putin/671405
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, September 13, 2022 5:56 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
It’s Time to Prepare for a Ukrainian Victory

The liberation of Russian-occupied territory might bring down Vladimir Putin.

To be clear: This is not a prediction; it’s a warning. Many things about the current Russian political system are strange, and one of the strangest is the total absence of a mechanism for succession.



WTF??? Only a witless troll would post such nonsey.

Russia has elections. That's there mechanism for succession!



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Tuesday, September 13, 2022 6:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
It’s Time to Prepare for a Ukrainian Victory

The liberation of Russian-occupied territory might bring down Vladimir Putin.

To be clear: This is not a prediction; it’s a warning. Many things about the current Russian political system are strange, and one of the strangest is the total absence of a mechanism for succession.



WTF??? Only a witless troll would post such nonsey.

Russia has elections. That's there mechanism for succession!

That mechanism has never been tested when the previous ruler was alive and didn't want to leave power but it is no different than the mechanism in North Korea (The Democratic People's Republic of Korea). Funny thing about North Korea where the old ruler dies in office and his son always takes over, I mean Democratically elected son takes over.

I sure hope Russia doesn't copy this other mechanism from North Korea: North Korea will ‘automatically’ launch nukes if Kim killed -- 09/09/2022.
It could get messy if Putin dies and Russia ‘automatically’ nukes Kyiv.
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/national-security-daily/2022/09/0
9/north-korea-will-automatically-launch-nukes-if-kim-killed-00055863


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Tuesday, September 13, 2022 7:18 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:

It’s Time to Prepare for a Ukrainian Victory

The liberation of Russian-occupied territory might bring down Vladimir Putin.

To be clear: This is not a prediction; it’s a warning. Many things about the current Russian political system are strange, and one of the strangest is the total absence of a mechanism for succession. Not only do we have no idea who would or could replace Putin; we have no idea who would or could choose that person.

In the Soviet Union there was a Politburo, a group of people that could theoretically make such a decision, and very occasionally did. By contrast, there is no transition mechanism in Russia. There is no dauphin. Putin has refused even to allow Russians to contemplate an alternative to his seedy and corrupt brand of kleptocratic power.

Nevertheless, I repeat: It is inconceivable that Putin can continue to rule if the centerpiece of his claim to legitimacy — his promise to put the Soviet Union back together again — proves not just impossible but laughable.

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20220913054726/https://www.theatlantic.com
/ideas/archive/2022/09/ukraine-victory-russia-putin/671405
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two





Let's not forget the sanctions. It was said it would take six months for them to really start to bite. Well, it's been six months. Putin's war machine is broken. He couldn't build a tank if he wanted to.

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Tuesday, September 13, 2022 7:21 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
It’s Time to Prepare for a Ukrainian Victory

The liberation of Russian-occupied territory might bring down Vladimir Putin.

To be clear: This is not a prediction; it’s a warning. Many things about the current Russian political system are strange, and one of the strangest is the total absence of a mechanism for succession.



WTF??? Only a witless troll would post such nonsey.

Russia has elections. That's there mechanism for succession!






Russia has elections, that's funny.

T



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Tuesday, September 13, 2022 7:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Let's not forget the sanctions. It was said it would take six months for them to really start to bite. Well, it's been six months. Putin's war machine is broken. He couldn't build a tank if he wanted to.

Russian industry must be malfunctioning because Russia is purchasing millions of rockets and artillery shells from North Korea for use in the Ukraine conflict. Either that or their artillery crews can't hit the broadside of a barn from inside the barn. Perhaps it is pure luck when Russian artillery hits what it is aiming for. Why fire one shell to hit the target when you can fire a thousand shells where 999 miss? The missing 999 shells will land somewhere (kindergarten or playground or school or hospital or orphanage) in Ukraine, so the Russians would call it a 100% effective barrage.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/06/russia-north-korea-ukraine-we
apons-00054882


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Tuesday, September 13, 2022 9:50 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I see you're still spreading bullshit.

I don't understand why we have such a fertilizer shortage!

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Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Putins' Rule Is Ending



This thread won't age well.


Are we going to put a Tick Tock on it and celebrate it's 3rd birthday in 2025 then, Ted?

Idiot.



Nope. Not one damn thing has changed since yesterday.

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Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
I see you're still spreading bullshit.

I don't understand why we have such a fertilizer shortage!

Signym, you started an entirely new thread that is one line after another of corrosive cynicism here: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65277

There is a whole website for Signym-esque cranky cynics here: https://councilforthenationalinterest.org

Another website (with exactly the article Signym was bitching about) for the same audience:
https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/never-let-a-good-crisis-go-to-waste/

What I am saying, Signym, is that you are full of shit and you handle the smell from your personal hygiene problem by saying it is not you stinking, it is everybody that points out that you are made of waste products.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:15 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Putin will be fine.

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Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Putin will be fine.

Both Putin and Trump will be fine, but they would be even better with two bullets in the back of the head. 6ix, see if you can get me banned for inciting assassination. Call the Secret Service. Call the Russian Embassy. Call Haken. I'm sure you are important enough, with all your connections, to get the law rolling against me. And while you are at it, could you please end all Wars, end all hunger, and end global climate change?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Putin will be fine.

Both Putin and Trump will be fine, but they would be even better with two bullets in the back of the head. 6ix, see if you can get me banned for inciting assassination. Call the Secret Service. Call the Russian Embassy. Call Haken. I'm sure you are important enough, with all your connections, to get the law rolling against me. And while you are at it, could you please end all Wars, end all hunger, and end global climate change?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



It's archived here: https://archive.ph/uoF1x

I'll put it in the relevant threads tomorrow. Got shit to do tonight.

You are a worthless human being.

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Wednesday, September 14, 2022 3:38 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Putin will be fine.

Both Putin and Trump will be fine, but they would be even better with two bullets in the back of the head. 6ix, see if you can get me banned for inciting assassination. Call the Secret Service. Call the Russian Embassy. Call Haken. I'm sure you are important enough, with all your connections, to get the law rolling against me. And while you are at it, could you please end all Wars, end all hunger, and end global climate change?

I would be ecstatic if someone could end your sociopathy, SECOND.

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Wednesday, September 14, 2022 9:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Putin will be fine.

Both Putin and Trump will be fine, but they would be even better with two bullets in the back of the head. 6ix, see if you can get me banned for inciting assassination. Call the Secret Service. Call the Russian Embassy. Call Haken. I'm sure you are important enough, with all your connections, to get the law rolling against me. And while you are at it, could you please end all Wars, end all hunger, and end global climate change?

I would be ecstatic if someone could end your sociopathy, SECOND.

I'd be delighted if Putin's psychopathology ended. 09:38, 14 Sep 2022 - Vladimir Putin could order nuclear strikes at strategic sites in Ukraine in response to a series of crushing defeats on the battlefield, according to a former NATO chief.

The alliance's ex-deputy secretary general hailed Ukraine's territorial gains while warning their counteroffensive in Kharkiv could lead to the despot deploying weapons of mass destruction to save face.

Speaking with the BBC, Rose Gottemoeller said she feared "they [ Russia ] will strike back now in really unpredictable ways that may even involve weapons of mass destruction."

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/putin-order-nuke-strike-aveng
e-27986625


"We've seen him (Putin) do this time and time again. At no point has Russia been under threat from NATO, has Russia been under threat from Ukraine. This is all a pattern from President Putin and we're going to stand up to it. We have the ability to defend ourselves, but we also need to call out what we're seeing here from President Putin," Psaki said in comments to ABC.
https://www.rferl.org/a/putin-russia-nuclear-deterrant-forces-alert/31
726441.html


I forgot Trump. I'd be delighted if Trump's psychopathology ended:

The ‘Shared Psychosis’ of Donald Trump and His Loyalists
Forensic psychiatrist Bandy X. Lee explains the outgoing president’s pathological appeal and how to wean people from it
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-shared-psychosis-of-don
ald-trump-and-his-loyalists
/

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Wednesday, September 14, 2022 10:30 AM

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Wednesday, September 14, 2022 10:41 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Biden sees long haul



Biden* has 55 days left until irrelevancy.

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Wednesday, September 14, 2022 12:40 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


President Biden* has never been relevant. And when he WAS cogent his concern about Ukraine was for his family's grift.

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Wednesday, September 14, 2022 1:40 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I think you've got it bassakwards as usual, SECOND, THUGR, and JAYNZE.

Russia's Security Council drives policy, NOT Putin.

The scope of Russia's invasion of Ukraine is - still- a "Special Military Operation", NOT full-on war. That means Russia is being parsimonious with deploying troops in Ukraine: most of the infantry fighting is being done by the LDNR (the combined militias of Luhansk and Donetsk). That's why the Kharkiv oblast was lightly defended: neither Russia nor the LDNR committed more than a tripwire force there. Kiev sent their forces out into the open for that offensive, and the tripwire did what it was supposed to do: stall the offensive for a few days before being evacuated so that artillery and air forces could be brought to bear. Kiev lost somwhere in the realm of 2000 KIA and (by the usual 3:1 calculation) 6000 wounded in taking a militarily irrelevent (from a Russian POV) region, while combined Russian and LDNR forces lost almost no one.

Commentators who are panicking have forgotten what they've been pounding on since the beginning:

The real fighting is in the Donbas (and now in Kherson too), and

Russia's goal is to destroy Kiev's military and kill Kiev soldiers, NOT take and hold territory. I believe that is called "manuever warfare" and what you saw was "maneuver defesne", executed brilliantly.

The best comparison is, still, Russia's action in Syria. In that case, lots of air support and training but not much troop involvement, and at a VERY slow grind. If you recall, Russia's first action was to degrade ISIS by hitting those oil tanker convoys heading into Turkey, where ISIS was going to make $$$.

Many Russians, including high-ranking public figures, want to blitz Ukraine NOW. PUTIN IS A MODERATING FORCE. PEOPLE ARE UPSET WITH HIM NOT BC OF THE "SMO" IN UKRAINE BUT BC IT'S TOO CAUTIOUS.

*****

People here in the west are afraid that we're on the rbink of WW3.

WHAT THEY DON'T REALIZE IS THAT WW3 HAS ALREADY BEGUN.

Remember, step 1 of warfare is sanctions and embargoes. We've been there and done that.

I don't think anyone in Russia's Security Council was ever under any illusion that this was "Russia v Ukraine".

It was always going to be "Russia v the Collective West", and not by Russia's choosing.

Right now, the west is trying to crank up problems in Serbia, Georgia, Armenia, Syria, Taiwan and who-knows-where-else (the M$M certainly isn't going to tell us!) hoping to throw so much chaff at Russia and its allies to overwhelm Russia's military and economy. We - the collective west - are aiming for "all chaos, all the time". And we - the collective west- are getting sucked further and further into supporting Ukraine no matter what the long term consequences for us and the world.

I have no idea what Russia's Security Council calculations are. Unlike us, I believe they want to avoid full-on global hot warfare. I see something of a horse race between actual military status (which IMHO Russia is winning, slowly) and our economic and political ability to wage war (which is declining, maybe more rapidy).

But if anyone resorts to nuclear holocaust it's going to be us.


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Wednesday, September 14, 2022 4:09 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Biden* has 55 days left until irrelevancy.


He may have to wean off the aged teat of Pelosi for once, but he always has that darn Executive Order option to do basically anything his puppet masters want.

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Monday, September 26, 2022 1:07 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:

It’s Time to Prepare for a Ukrainian Victory

The liberation of Russian-occupied territory might bring down Vladimir Putin.

To be clear: This is not a prediction; it’s a warning. Many things about the current Russian political system are strange, and one of the strangest is the total absence of a mechanism for succession.



WTF??? Only a witless troll would post such nonsey.

Russia has elections. That's there mechanism for succession!





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Tuesday, September 27, 2022 1:51 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Oh dear. THUGR ran out of anything credible to say.

Soon, he will be posting picture of pigs.

HAHAHAHA!







Russians are calling up the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense asking how to surrender, Ukraine says

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russians-are-calling-up-the-ukrai
nian-ministry-of-defense-asking-how-to-surrender-ukraine-says/ar-AA12iyQy?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=43b3423a300d43a4bc7b27853ca3d0e2



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Sunday, October 2, 2022 6:51 PM

THG


Russian Army at 'Breaking Point' After Putin's Lyman Defeat: Lt. General

Retired U.S. Army Lieutenant General H.R. McMaster said Sunday that Russia's army may be at the edge of "collapse" after it faced defeat in Lyman—the previously occupied Ukrainian city where Russian forces retreated on Saturday.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-army-at-breaking-point-af
ter-putin-s-lyman-defeat-lt-general/ar-AA12vRiW?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=1ae1d46bdfaa4e39c2d562e0d2300d6a





I couldn't be happier. How about you comrade signym. How happy are you?

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Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:14 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Biden* has never been relevant. And when he WAS cogent his concern about Ukraine was for his family's grift.





Here is a gift from Ukraine to Putin. Let me add my congratulations, happy birthday Putty.

Comrades kiki and signym, can_you_see_me_laughing?

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Saturday, October 8, 2022 1:25 PM

THG


Oops...

T



Russian-controlled Donetsk printing house burned to the ground in shelling






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Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:24 AM

THG


Most of President Putin's Kremlin elite oppose the Ukraine war, report says

Top officials know that Putin's war with Ukraine cannot be won, two well-connected journalists told the Guardian. Russia has endured a series of disastrous defeats in its shambolic invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/most-of-president-putin-s-kremlin
-elite-oppose-the-ukraine-war-report-says/ar-AA12Ltvb?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=097d020d15924e03aa7833a59780e7bd




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Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:11 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Putin's current term in office will end in 2024. If he isn't re-elected, his rule will end then.

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Tuesday, October 11, 2022 2:07 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Putin's current term in office will end in 2024. If he isn't re-elected, his rule will end then.




Putin signs law enabling him to stay in power until 2036

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20210405-putin-signs-law-enabling-h
im-to-stay-in-power-until-2036



Russian elections, you're so funny.

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Tuesday, October 11, 2022 4:49 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SIGNYM:

Putin's current term in office will end in 2024. If he isn't re-elected, his rule will end then.

THUGR
Quote:



Putin signs law enabling him to stay in power until 2036

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20210405-putin-signs-law-enabling-h
im-to-stay-in-power-until-2036



Russian elections, you're so funny.



Putin can stay in office for more consecutive terms IF he's re-elected.
And I don't know if your knowledge has advanced since 1989, but, yes, Russia has had multiparty elections since 1993, and Russia has had SEVEN political parties represented in their Parliament. A lot more than our four (Dems, Repubs, one Libertarian who caucases with Repubs and one Independent who caucases with Dems).




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Tuesday, October 11, 2022 6:16 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Ted only thinks in MSNBC speak and anti-American cartoons. He has no concept of anything outside of his little bubble that is about to burst.

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Wednesday, November 2, 2022 7:57 PM

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Wednesday, November 2, 2022 11:58 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Good for him.

How many Lefty retards that are saying they're leaving Twitter do you suppose will stand by their convictions like this dude did?

My guess is ZERO.




P.S. The White House just deleted a tweet today after they were fact checked.

Hillary Clinton has been getting fact checked now too.


We broke your toy. We will break more.



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Saturday, November 5, 2022 1:43 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:

It’s Time to Prepare for a Ukrainian Victory

The liberation of Russian-occupied territory might bring down Vladimir Putin.

To be clear: This is not a prediction; it’s a warning. Many things about the current Russian political system are strange, and one of the strangest is the total absence of a mechanism for succession.



WTF??? Only a witless troll would post such nonsey.

Russia has elections. That's there mechanism for succession!




Russia's 'catastrophic' missing men problem

Where have all the flowers gone?" asks the famous 1960s antiwar song. In Moscow today, The New York Times reports, the question is: Where have all the men gone?

The answer to both questions is, in part, the same: To the graveyards of soldiers. But a lot of the missing men of Moscow have also fled Russian President Vladimir Putin's draft for his war in Ukraine. In fact, demographers say Russia may not recover for generations, if ever.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/russia-s-catastrophic-missing-m
en-problem/ar-AA13LeJM?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=4aeff9fde02a47c9a379a6a5e53a15ff




Riddly me this comrade.

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Bondarev served as a Russian diplomat for 20 years, according to Foreign Affairs, but quit his role in Russia's mission to the United Nations (U.N.) in May over Russia's invasion of Ukraine. He said in a resignation letter that the war is "not only a crime against the Ukrainian people, but also, perhaps, the most serious crime against the people of Russia."

In an interview with Sky News last month, Bondarev said that he believes Putin's "political survival" depends on the outcome of the Ukraine war.

"You have to understand that, if he loses the war, it will be the end for him," Bondarev said.

https://www.newsweek.com/ex-russian-diplomat-thought-obvious-putin-arm
y-limits-1757148


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Putin will be fine.



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Saturday, November 5, 2022 4:19 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Bondarev served as a Russian diplomat



Quote:

In 2019, he became a counsellor of the Russian Federation's mission to the United Nations Office at Geneva and other international organizations in Switzerland.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Bondarev
If you follow Wiki's links, counselor doesn't even make it into the named ranks of diplomacy. Sounds like he was a back-office guy in Geneva

Quote:

... In an interview with Sky News last month, Bondarev said that he believes Putin's "political survival" depends on the outcome of the Ukraine war.
"You have to understand that, if he loses the war, it will be the end for him," Bondarev said.



You could say the same of NATO. In fact, Stoltenberg HAS said the same of NATO.

So here we have two behemoth nuclear powers in an existential fight...or at least, what some claim is an existential fight

Which one is gonna reach for nukes first? Bc then, it becomes existential for ALL of us.

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Saturday, November 5, 2022 4:49 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Which one is gonna reach for nukes first? Bc then, it becomes existential for ALL of us.

Putin is destroying Ukraine's electric grid because his life depends on winning, but nobody has yet begun destroying Russia's grid. And then there is the real estate that Russia has destroyed inside Ukraine, but Ukraine is not destroying Russian real estate because Biden will NOT supply the weapons needed. It is a very asymmetric war when one side holds back while the Russian side does not.

Denied ATACMS, Ukraine Says It Is Developing Its 1000 Km Long-Range Weapon To Strike Russia. The distance from the center of Moscow to the Russian-Ukrainian border is about 450 km.
CNN reported last month that the US was not likely to provide the Ukrainian military with ‘deadly’ ATACMS anytime soon, a system that Kyiv has been requesting for months. The GMLRS rockets currently employed by the Ukrainian military have a maximum range of 84 kilometers, while the ATACMS can hit targets up to 300 kilometers away. With such long-range strike capability, Ukraine can destroy many valuable targets inside Russia. The Biden administration believes that providing ATACMS to Ukraine would be “extremely escalatory.”
https://eurasiantimes.com/denied-atacms-ukraine-says-it-is-developing-
its-1000
/

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SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Which one is gonna reach for nukes first? Bc then, it becomes existential for ALL of us.

Putin is destroying Ukraine's electric grid because his life depends on winning, but nobody has yet begun destroying Russia's grid.



How do you suppose anyone could do this?

Russia has excellent air defenses and their cyber systems are probably hardened.
Sure, Britain blew up 2 of 3 Russian pipelines, but that was outside Russian territory.

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Saturday, November 5, 2022 5:27 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

How do you suppose anyone could do this?

Russia has excellent air defenses and their cyber systems are probably hardened.
Sure, Britain blew up 2 of 3 Russian pipelines, but that was outside Russian territory.

Do you have a source for your confidence? Until defenses have been tested by hostilities, for example by Ukrainians who have a strong motivation to prove the Russians are full of hot air, it is all salesmanship and empty promises by the Russian manufacturer.

THE S-400 MYTH: WHY RUSSIA’S AIR DEFENSE PROWESS IS EXAGGERATED
Alex Hollings | July 21, 2022

Russia’s S-400 Triumf, often referred to as the SA-21 Growler within NATO circles, is widely touted as one of — if not the — most capable air defense systems in the world. With the ability to leverage a variety of missiles to engage different air threats, an engagement range of nearly 250 miles, and widely praised counter-stealth capabilities, the S-400 has gained a reputation as one of the few systems capable of countering America’s air-dominance approach to warfare.

But is the S-400’s fearsome reputation really deserved, or is it just another Russian weapon system that benefits from the Kremlin’s well-established knack for media manipulation in the interest of furthering foreign weapons sales?

Russia has been intentionally opaque about the S-400’s history in testing and in the few situations where the S-400 has found itself in real combat conditions, its performance has prompted more questions than answers.

https://www.sandboxx.us/blog/the-s-400-myth-why-russias-air-defense-pr
owess-is-exaggerated
/

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Saturday, November 5, 2022 5:33 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Russian air defense are constantly being tested by Ukrainian missiles, jets, and drones. They have a lot more than the S-400, including the Pantsir.

Lack of success is why Kiev resorted to sabotaging the Kerch Strait bridge with a truck bomb.

If Ukraine could, I'm sure it would strike Russian troop and weapons concentrations, but they can't. Despite your wishful thinking.



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Saturday, November 5, 2022 7:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russian air defense are constantly being tested by Ukrainian missiles, jets, and drones. They have a lot more than the S-400, including the Pantsir.

Lack of success is why Kiev resorted to sabotaging the Kerch Strait bridge with a truck bomb.

If Ukraine could, I'm sure it would strike Russian troop and weapons concentrations, but they can't. Despite your wishful thinking.

Putin is spooked by Ukraine. How do I know? Putin has signed a law to conscript citizens with unexpunged or outstanding convictions for murder, robbery, larceny, and drug trafficking, all of who were previously forbidden to serve. These are NOT people who add to an Army. They are a subtraction, but there are worse people who are a bigger loss. Putin will not conscript criminals who committed:

Sex crimes against minors,
treason,
spying,
terrorism,
those convicted of the attempted assassination of a government official,
hijacking an aircraft,
extremist activity,
illegal handling of nuclear materials and radioactive substances.

The sad day may come when all Russian criminals can be conscripted, no matter what crime.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/05/europe/russia-ukraine-law-mobilize-seri
ous-crime-offenders-intl/index.html


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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:

Bondarev served as a Russian diplomat



Quote:

In 2019, he became a counsellor of the Russian Federation's mission to the United Nations Office at Geneva and other international organizations in Switzerland.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Bondarev
If you follow Wiki's links, counselor doesn't even make it into the named ranks of diplomacy. Sounds like he was a back-office guy in Geneva

Quote:

... In an interview with Sky News last month, Bondarev said that he believes Putin's "political survival" depends on the outcome of the Ukraine war.

"You have to understand that, if he loses the war, it will be the end for him," Bondarev said.



You could say the same of NATO. In fact, Stoltenberg HAS said the same of NATO.

So here we have two behemoth nuclear powers in an existential fight...or at least, what some claim is an existential fight

Which one is gonna reach for nukes first? Bc then, it becomes existential for ALL of us.




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Putin will be fine.



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