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Tuesday, March 1, 2022 4:24 PM

THG


Biden and our allies are doing this in record speed.

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Tuesday, March 1, 2022 4:40 PM

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The world has had enough.

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MP uses parliamentary privilege to name Russian oligarchs






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Tuesday, March 1, 2022 4:57 PM

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Tory MP Bob Seely used parliamentary privilege to name lawyers helping Russian oligarchs in the UK.






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Tuesday, March 1, 2022 5:01 PM

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Expert explains Russian oligarchs' dirty money






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Tuesday, March 1, 2022 5:47 PM

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Multinationals flee Russia, punishing Moscow

Biden to champion US diplomacy in State of the Union as West stands up to Putin

GOP senators push back hard on Trump's praise of Putin
SENATE

Large multinational companies are fleeing Russia, joining a large swath of the international community in moving to isolate the nation in response to its brutal invasion of Ukraine.

Oil and gas giants BP and Shell announced they are leaving Russia after spending decades making investments worth billions of dollars in the country, while several U.S. companies are halting all shipments to Russia.

The exodus is expected to continue as more businesses weigh the reputational and financial risks of doing business with Russian President Vladimir Putin. Experts say that if energy firms are willing to forfeit huge sums by pulling out of Russia, industries with much less to lose will soon follow suit.

“I think corporate executives, in addition to considering political risk, are genuinely outraged by what Russia has done,” said Bill Reinsch, the Scholl chair in international business at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, adding that he is surprised by just how quickly companies have made the call to leave Russia.

These decisions are driven in part by enormous public pressure to disown the Russian government and also by the sweeping sanctions imposed by the U.S. and its allies that severely complicate companies’ ability to do business with Russian entities.

Shell on Monday said that it will abandon stakes in Russian state-owned energy projects that are worth roughly $3 billion. The Dutch company noted that the move will hurt the value of its assets and “lead to impairments.”

"We are shocked by the loss of life in Ukraine, which we deplore, resulting from a senseless act of military aggression which threatens European security," Shell CEO Ben van Beurden said in a statement.

That announcement came after BP, a longtime defender of Putin, said it would desert its 20 percent stake in Russian state-owned energy firm Rosneft. The move could cost BP as much as $25 billion if the oil giant is forced to write off the investment, as selling it could prove difficult under strict sanctions.


“Russia’s attack on Ukraine is an act of aggression which is having tragic consequences across the region,” BP Chairman Helge Lund said in a statement. “BP has operated in Russia for over 30 years, working with brilliant Russian colleagues. However, this military action represents a fundamental change.”

As Russia escalates its attacks on Ukraine, it’s becoming increasingly isolated from the rest of the world. American shipping companies FedEx and UPS said they would temporarily suspend all shipments to both countries, while Germany’s DHL said it would pause some services to Russia and Ukraine, citing security concerns.

Ocean carrier Maersk said Monday that it might suspend shipments to and from Russia, a move that would further cut the nation off from international trade. The Danish shipping giant said that it was monitoring the security situation in Ukraine and “preparing to comply with the ever-evolving sanctions and restrictions imposed against Russia.”

Companies that haven’t fled are likely evaluating how to navigate complex sanctions and exploring whether continuing business with Russia is worth the regulatory challenges.

In response to the Kremlin’s invasion of Ukraine, the U.S. and its allies froze roughly $630 billion in Russian central bank assets being held abroad, blocked fundraising for Russian state-owned entities and cut some Russian banks out of the SWIFT international payments system. The U.S. blocked Russian state-owned banks from accessing the U.S. dollar and imposed export controls that prevent Russia from obtaining computer chips and other technologies.

In just a matter of days, the sanctions have brought the Russian economy to the brink of collapse. The Russian ruble was worth less than 1 cent as of Monday afternoon, giving businesses yet another reason to pull out of the country.

European companies, particularly banks and energy firms, are far more exposed to Russia than U.S. businesses, which generally sought to limit their Russian investments after the U.S. imposed sanctions on Russia in 2014 for annexing the Crimea Peninsula.

Russia accounts for around 7 percent of oil imported to the U.S. but is only the 20th largest importer for all goods and the 40th largest export market for American goods, according to the U.S. Trade Representative office.

A small number of U.S. companies would face challenges if they’re cut off from Russia. Boeing has long relied on Russian titanium to build its planes but has insisted it can get materials from other countries. Both PepsiCo and McDonald’s get around 4 percent of their sales from Russia and Ukraine.

https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/business-a-lobbying/596200-mul
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Tuesday, March 1, 2022 7:25 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Biden and our allies are doing this in record speed.



When we get the next GWB in office after all the rights you've gladly given away to Leftist leaders, it's going to be your bank account that gets frozen when they give you a failing social credit score because of your post history.



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Tuesday, March 1, 2022 8:33 PM

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Putin's Ukraine invasion 'dramatically worse for Russia’s strategic position in Europe'






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Tuesday, March 1, 2022 11:53 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Holy shit Ted.

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Thursday, March 3, 2022 8:00 AM

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Why the enormous scale of financial pain being inflicted on Russia worries some in the West

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/why-the-enormous-scale-of-fina
ncial-pain-being-inflicted-on-russia-worries-some-in-the-west/ar-AAUxvE4?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531




These sanctions are going to last long after they are lifted. Russia will never be the same. Most who will suffer have nothing to do with Putins' decisions yet without sanctions of this magnitude war is the only option left. It may come to that yet. Putin cannot be allowed to march through Europe. There are no winners here. Only those who will suffer because a mad man is running Russia.

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Thursday, March 3, 2022 5:17 PM

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Worth watching.

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How should Britain Respond to Russia and Ukraine Crisis? | Panel Discussion | Oxford Union





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Thursday, March 3, 2022 6:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Why the enormous scale of financial pain being inflicted on Russia worries some in the West

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/why-the-enormous-scale-of-fina
ncial-pain-being-inflicted-on-russia-worries-some-in-the-west/ar-AAUxvE4?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531




These sanctions are going to last long after they are lifted. Russia will never be the same. Most who will suffer have nothing to do with Putins' decisions yet without sanctions of this magnitude war is the only option left. It may come to that yet. Putin cannot be allowed to march through Europe. There are no winners here. Only those who will suffer because a mad man is running Russia.

T





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Expert: Oligarchs Targeted In Part Because They Could Hide Putin’s Assets





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Thursday, March 3, 2022 6:33 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Who saw this coming? Germans when they realize they can march trough Poland again to fight Russians but this time they are good guys.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, March 3, 2022 7:58 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Germany OWES Ukraine big time! Germans killed millions of Ukrainians and Belarusians in 1941-1943. Germany has a lot to answer for even after 80 years. Helping Ukraine now is a good start.

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Thursday, March 3, 2022 10:33 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


They've been pumping German men full of soy and self loathing for 75 years now.

I hope the poor dears don't break their effeminate wrists.

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Friday, March 4, 2022 4:46 AM

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Putin can no longer compete with China on any level so he will be treated by China like he treats other lesser countries. Man has Russia fallen into despair and dysfunction. And man is it going to suck for Putin being told instead of doing the telling. China is telling Putin to come to us my pretty and he is, he is crawling to them.

Too funny…

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Friday, March 4, 2022 11:01 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Meanwhile, your Democrat leaders behave as if we already are China.

Keep laughing, stooge.

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Friday, March 4, 2022 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by second:

Who saw this coming? Germans when they realize they can march trough Poland again to fight Russians but this time they are good guys.






I see you going back and forth with Jack throughout these threads. The ignorant fool doesn’t realize he is an anarchist. He doesn’t believe in anything that would help a society to develop and thrive. It is left to others to do so despite him.

He believes, or thinks he believes in the organization of society on the basis of voluntary cooperation. A society without political institutions or hierarchical government. He is clueless to what keeps our society running to the extent it does. It is the institutions he criticizes that allow for his very existence.

There are many places on the planet where he could live out his beliefs. Places where governments cannot easily reach him but he is a coward so he’d never go. What that means is he will never live according to his delusional anti-social convictions. He will continue living in a box void of the skills needed to thrive himself in a society that works for a better good.



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Friday, March 4, 2022 12:58 PM

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Key U.S. provider of Internet to Russia is cutting service there, citing ‘unprovoked invasion of Ukraine,’ sources say

A leading American Internet service provider, Cogent Communications, is preparing to sever relations with Russian customers on Friday, according to people familiar with the company’s decision, a move that would give Ukrainian officials another victory in their campaign to isolate Russia online.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/key-u-s-provider-of-internet
-to-russia-plans-to-cut-service-there-citing-unprovoked-invasion-of-ukraine-sources-say/ar-AAUCeIA?ocid=msedgntp




I'm going to say it again. China is watching what happens when the world comes after you. I'm betting they want no part of it. This may be what saves Taiwan and prevents them from helping Russia.

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Friday, March 4, 2022 1:34 PM

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Bipartisan lawmakers call for the banning of oil imported from Russia.






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Friday, March 4, 2022 2:07 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Cool.

Look for $6.00 per gallon by summer time.

Go Joe*!

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Friday, March 4, 2022 3:08 PM

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Friday, March 4, 2022 6:13 PM

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Is this you laughing about gas prices then?

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Saturday, March 5, 2022 11:20 AM

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Italy seizes oligarchs' villas and yachts in initial swoop

ROME (Reuters) -Italian police have seized villas and yachts worth at least 140 million euros ($153 million) from four high-profile Russians who were placed on an EU sanctions list following Moscow's attack on Ukraine, sources said on Saturday.

A police source said a villa owned by billionaire businessman Alisher Usmanov on the Mediterranean island of Sardinia, and a villa on Lake Como owned by state TV host Vladimir Soloviev, had both been seized.

In addition, sources confirmed that yachts belonging to Russia's richest man, Alexey Mordashov, and Gennady Timchenko, who has close tied with Russian President Vladimir Putin, were impounded overnight in northern Italian ports. [L5N2V75YZ]

Russian oligarchs are believed to have bought numerous villas in choice Italian locations over the past 20 years and sources said more assets were expected to be seized in coming days as Western states implement massive sanctions to try to force Russia to withdraw from Ukraine.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/italy-seizes-oligarchs-villas-and
-yachts-in-initial-swoop/ar-AAUDSz2?ocid=msedgntp




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Saturday, March 5, 2022 1:43 PM

JONGSSTRAW


The war footage is horrifying. It's extreme violence porn 24 hours a day. It's mind-numbing, unimaginable, and unbearable.

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Saturday, March 5, 2022 4:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
The war footage is horrifying. It's extreme violence porn 24 hours a day. It's mind-numbing, unimaginable, and unbearable.



If you keep watching it, they'll keep creating more for you.



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Saturday, March 5, 2022 5:18 PM

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Saturday, March 5, 2022 5:24 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Opposition leader Boris Nemtsov was shot dead yards from the Kremlin after writing an op-ed about the Russian incursion into Ukraine, published in September 2014 in Russian and Ukrainian, in which he said, among other things,

This is not our war, this is not your war, this is not the war of 20-year-old paratroopers sent out there. This is Vladimir Putin’s war… Through his bloody actions, though he is fomenting a fratricidal war, one can see his main goal – preservation of personal power and money at any cost….

Despite censorship, little by little the society started to understand that those in power are greedy and amoral people whose main goal is personal enrichment.

Ukraine became an example of an anti-criminal revolution, which overthrew a thieving president. Oh, so you dared to get out onto the street and throw off a president? Ukraine needs to be punished for it to make sure that no Russian would get these thoughts.

Moreover, Ukraine chose the European way, which implies the rule of law, democracy and change of power. Ukraine’s success on this way is a direct threat to Putin’s power because he chose the opposite course – a lifetime in power, filled with arbitrariness and corruption.

https://www.kyivpost.com/article/opinion/op-ed/why-does-putin-wage-war
-on-ukraine-362884.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, March 5, 2022 5:38 PM

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Joining Apple and others, Microsoft stops sales in Russia amid invasion: 'We stand with Ukraine'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/joining-apple-and-others-microsof
t-stops-sales-in-russia-amid-invasion-we-stand-with-ukraine/ar-AAUEyuk?ocid=msedgntp




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Only a matter of time before U.S. cloud companies shut off services in Russia

Now experts say U.S. tech giants could take it a step further and cut off access to Russian companies using their cloud computing services.

“We believe it’s a matter of when and not if this happens as Amazon, Microsoft, Google, and Oracle head down this path,” Dan Ives, analyst with Wedbush, told GeekWire. “With the atrocities seen, tech firms have a clear moral choice as they pull the plug on Russia.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/analyst-only-a-matter-of-tim
e-before-u-s-cloud-companies-shut-off-services-in-russia/ar-AAUECU1?ocid=msedgntp




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Saturday, March 5, 2022 5:44 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Don't worry about it Ted. They'll be coming to shut you down one day too.

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Saturday, March 5, 2022 6:03 PM

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Expel Russia from the WTO

To have maximum impact, the rapidly emerging separate and individual actions by NATO countries to add trade sanctions to the accumulation of other economic sanctions punishing the government of Russia for its invasion of Ukraine must be broadened. They must include multilateral action to kick Russian President Vladimir Putin and his kleptocratic government out of the World Trade Organization (WTO).

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/expel-russia-from-the-wto/ar-AAUE
ZdO?ocid=msedgntp




Watching all this unfold one can't help wonder. How many decades will it take Russia to recover? The world is going to put Ukraine back on its feet rather quickly. But Russia, I believe business will not want to risk reinvesting in Russia.

Think about it. Why would people want to invest in a third world country? A country where no one has two nickels to rub together. We already know they don't so I'd say Russia is really really fucked.

T



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Saturday, March 5, 2022 6:44 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I'm glad that the Ukraine will be fine and the Biden* family will always have a place to give jobs to their cracked out relatives.

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Saturday, March 5, 2022 6:47 PM

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Key U.S. provider of Internet to Russia is cutting service there, citing ‘unprovoked invasion of Ukraine,’ sources say

A leading American Internet service provider, Cogent Communications, is preparing to sever relations with Russian customers on Friday, according to people familiar with the company’s decision, a move that would give Ukrainian officials another victory in their campaign to isolate Russia online.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/key-u-s-provider-of-internet
-to-russia-plans-to-cut-service-there-citing-unprovoked-invasion-of-ukraine-sources-say/ar-AAUCeIA?ocid=msedgntp




I'm going to say it again. China is watching what happens when the world comes after you. I'm betting they want no part of it. This may be what saves Taiwan and prevents them from helping Russia.

T





Russia's second-largest internet provider cuts off Russian websites

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-second-largest-internet-
provider-cuts-off-russian-websites/ar-AAUFfwE?ocid=msedgntp




All this keeps happening at lightning speed. I've realized I can't keep up with all the business cutting their Russian ties. I can say I'm heartened by it all.

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Saturday, March 5, 2022 7:11 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


There's a whole lot of normal people like you and me that live in Russia who are having their entire way of life upended.

And you're cheering it all on, you fucking goon.

You are a disgusting human being.

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Sunday, March 6, 2022 12:19 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
The war footage is horrifying. It's extreme violence porn 24 hours a day. It's mind-numbing, unimaginable, and unbearable.



If you keep watching it, they'll keep creating more for you.



Really, just for me? But how will "they" even know I'm watching? We're not a Nielsen family. Wow.

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Sunday, March 6, 2022 9:11 AM

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South Korea to hit Belarus with export controls

South Korea said Sunday it will implement export controls against close Moscow ally Belarus for "effectively supporting the Russian invasion of Ukraine".

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/south-korea-to-hit-belarus-with-e
xport-controls/ar-AAUGalt?ocid=msedgntp




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Sunday, March 6, 2022 9:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Expel Russia from the WTO

To have maximum impact, the rapidly emerging separate and individual actions by NATO countries to add trade sanctions to the accumulation of other economic sanctions punishing the government of Russia for its invasion of Ukraine must be broadened. They must include multilateral action to kick Russian President Vladimir Putin and his kleptocratic government out of the World Trade Organization (WTO).

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/expel-russia-from-the-wto/ar-AAUE
ZdO?ocid=msedgntp




Watching all this unfold one can't help wonder. How many decades will it take Russia to recover? The world is going to put Ukraine back on its feet rather quickly. But Russia, I believe business will not want to risk reinvesting in Russia.

Think about it. Why would people want to invest in a third world country? A country where no one has two nickels to rub together. We already know they don't so I'd say Russia is really really fucked.

T





Russian 'brain drain' of academic, finance, and tech workers 'might be the most important problem' for its economy, experts say

Economists say more educated, middle-class Russians are likely to leave over Western sanctions.
They've been leaving for years, and their exodus will likely hurt the country's economy.
One economist says Russia may resemble Iran, whose economy has been crippled by sanctions.
It's not a question of whether people want to leave Russia, Oleg Itskhoki, an economics professor at the University of California, Los Angeles, told Insider. It's a matter of when they will — and whether they can.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/russian-brain-drain-of-academi
c-finance-and-tech-workers-might-be-the-most-important-problem-for-its-economy-experts-say/ar-AAUGoiw?ocid=msedgntp




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Sunday, March 6, 2022 9:33 AM

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Angry dock workers in the UK are refusing to unload Russian oil due to Ukraine invasion

Tough sanctions mean that Russian ships can't dock at British ports, but a loophole means goods can still be transported via foreign ships.
Dock workers are taking a stand against Russia's invasion of Ukraine, with ports in the country refusing to unload Russian oil and gas.
There is currently no blockade on oil and gas from Russia.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/angry-dock-workers-in-the-uk-a
re-refusing-to-unload-russian-oil-due-to-ukraine-invasion/ar-AAUGmKO?ocid=msedgntp




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Sunday, March 6, 2022 10:13 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
The war footage is horrifying. It's extreme violence porn 24 hours a day. It's mind-numbing, unimaginable, and unbearable.



If you keep watching it, they'll keep creating more for you.



Really, just for me? But how will "they" even know I'm watching? We're not a Nielsen family. Wow.



They know everything you watch. Once people had coaxial cable in their homes, they always did.

You didn't think that it was Magic when they were somehow able to use that same cable they laid out to homes in the early 80's to allow for broadband internet with download AS WELL AS upload speeds that have continued to increase into the 2020's and will continue to increase, did you?

If I'm able to upload at 1mbps right now on the cheapest tier internet speed using nothing more than coaxial cable that was put into this house in the early 80's, how difficult do you think it would have been for them to pull the tiny amount of data from your cable box as to what was being watched in your house all month?

Neilson ratings haven't actually meant anything for nearly 4 decades. They just served two purposes.

1. It's a nice sounding name that everybody in America has heard of.
2. It camouflaged the fact that our TV viewing habits were already being spied on back when people seemed to care about their privacy.


This is a story that nobody ever talks about. But I'm sure some day they'll tell us about it, and at this point nobody would even care.


And if people are watching on their internet or phones, forget about it. Google and Microsoft know every fucking keystroke I make on my computer.

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Sunday, March 6, 2022 10:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There's a whole lot of normal people like you and me that live in Russia who are having their entire way of life upended.

And you're cheering it all on, you fucking goon.

You are a disgusting human being.



Visa, Mastercard suspend all operations in Russia, 'effective immediately'
The company says it felt 'compelled' to act

This isn't hurting Putin. This is hurting the people of Russia who were already living tougher lives than we have here before they were hit with 40+% inflation.

Fuck Visa and Mastercard.

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Visa, Mastercard suspend all operations in Russia, 'effective immediately'
The company says it felt 'compelled' to act

This isn't hurting Putin. This is hurting the people of Russia who were already living tougher lives than we have here before they were hit with 40+% inflation.

Fuck Visa and Mastercard.

Now you suddenly care about poor people? You never cared before, except for people exactly like yourself, by which I mean you cared only for you. I will let you in on a little secret that Americans seem to not understand when heaping praise on the brave troops: killing Russian soldiers is not hurting Putin and firebombing German citizens did not hurt Hitler and nuking Nagasaki did not hurt the Japanese Emperor. Just in case you missed the point, 6ix, a war is not possible that aims all the violence at only the enemy leader. The troops aren't as precise as James Bond, 007, when on attack. And when the attackers fight from their keyboards, things are much less precise compared to when aiming a sniper rifle at someone's head.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, March 6, 2022 2:49 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Visa, Mastercard suspend all operations in Russia, 'effective immediately'
The company says it felt 'compelled' to act

This isn't hurting Putin. This is hurting the people of Russia who were already living tougher lives than we have here before they were hit with 40+% inflation.

Fuck Visa and Mastercard.

Now you suddenly care about poor people? You never cared before



Extremely long post history here that debunks that lie.

That being said, fuck the rest of your message. Didn't read it. Don't care.

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Sunday, March 6, 2022 3:13 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Extremely long post history here that debunks that lie.

That being said, fuck the rest of your message. Didn't read it. Don't care.

Your history says you are crazy. But on occasion you can pretend sanity. I'll show you how two famous men pretended to be sane:

History doesn’t repeat itself. It just tries to remember an old song it heard once. It may be that Putin’s 24 February 2022 will turn out to be like Hitler’s 22 June 1941 – the day he invaded Russia, doomed himself and Germany to destruction and made inevitable a divided Europe whose Cold War and barbed wire would last for half a century. But Putin isn’t Hitler. He will die a disappointed old nuisance in exile somewhere, rather than by Heldentod ("hero’s death") suicide in his bunker. Both men qualify as psychopathic dictators, swaddled from reality in fantasies of geopolitical revenge. But Putin’s grip on the Russian imagination is weaker than Hitler’s on the Germans. And his use of police terror against his own people, though horrifying, is distinctly less effective.

All the same, historian Margaret MacMillan sees one desperately important parallel. Both men have meant what they said. And in both cases they were not taken seriously until it was too late. Hitler raved on in public about getting rid of the Jews and conquering Lebensraum in eastern Europe. But the “other Hitler”, in private, could sometimes talk quite charmingly and constructively about possible agreements. Obviously, foreign visitors concluded, the public stuff was just for show while the “serious” Hitler was revealing his real mind. Diametrically wrong! The crazy speeches gave his true intentions; the sober reflections over coffee were all lies. With Putin, the west wrote off his increasingly wild talk about breaking Nato’s encirclement and restoring Russia’s dominion over post-Soviet space. He couldn’t be serious. Under the bluster, wasn’t there still that shrewd, cautious Putin with whom one could do business? But Ukraine proves the opposite. The imperial dream is what he means. The meetings with western leaders across that long table, hinting at terms for a bargain, were all fake.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/06/history-repeats-
itslelf-like-half-forgotten-song-once-we-remember-too-late


6ix, you told me a thousand times that you're crazy, and just because you can be polite and reasonable once in a while, underneath the good manners the real you is stark raving mad. Remember writing Trump will be fine? Anybody who wants that for Trump is as untrustworthy and dishonorable as he is. Democrats are cancer? You are not right in the head, 6ix. Nobody dies of Covid? How did you get this way, 6ix?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, March 6, 2022 5:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Extremely long post history here that debunks that lie.

That being said, fuck the rest of your message. Didn't read it. Don't care.

Your history says you are crazy. But on occasion you can pretend sanity.



Keep it up.

I already got your sockpuppet banned.

I can just post the links to archived posts of yours promoting murder and bragging about how you'd murder people you don't like and get away with it in the text chat on the front page until Haken looks at them and take care of you too, Arthur.



The only people I feel sorry for are whoever now has to deal with your Reaverfan persona since you can't use FFF.NET as your toilet for that demon anymore. Because there ain't no way you put a lid on that after the worse half of you was banished from here.

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Sunday, March 6, 2022 8:55 PM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. SECOND: I am so very sorry I libelled you by labelling you a Russian Troll. I apologize for this. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64646&p=2


Punishing Russia with



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Sunday, March 6, 2022 9:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Biden and our allies are doing this in record speed.



Biden and your allies are violating Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention. Hillary agrees with you Ted, that we should violate the 33rd Article of the Fourth Geneva Convention.



P.S. Visa and Mastercard are violating Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention. OnlyFans attempted to violate Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention, but they were shamed into not doing so.

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Former Astronaut Scott Kelly Tells Russian Space Chief Dmitry Rogozin to Find McDonald's Job

Former NASA astronaut Scott Kelly has publicly clashed with Dmitry Rogozin, director of Russia's Roscosmos space agency, on Twitter, with Kelly implying that Russia could soon have no space industry at all without international cooperation.

The hostile exchange was sparked by a March 2 tweet by Rogozin which included footage of Roscosmos staff apparently stripping a Russian rocket of international flag decals.

"The launchers at Baikonur decided that without the flags of some countries, our rocket would look more beautiful," Rogozin wrote.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/former-astronaut-scott-kelly-tell
s-russian-space-chief-dmitry-rogozin-to-find-mcdonald-s-job/ar-AAUJM23?ocid=msedgntp






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Monday, March 7, 2022 2:50 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. SECOND: I am so very sorry I libelled you by labelling you a Russian Troll. I apologize for this. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64646&p=2


Perhaps their exchange was prompted by this...

Quote:

Russia is stopping rocket engine sales to the US and their space chief said, ‘Let them fly on something else, their broomsticks’

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/17846831/russia-stops-selling-rocket-eng
ines-to-america
/

The RD-180 rocket engine is used to power Atlas V launches.

Quote:

Atlas V is an expendable launch system and the fifth major version in the Atlas launch vehicle family. It was originally designed by Lockheed Martin, now being operated by United Launch Alliance, a joint venture between Lockheed Martin and Boeing. Atlas V is also a major NASA launch vehicle. In August 2021, ULA announced that Atlas V would be retired, and all 29 remaining launches had been sold. As of 2 March 2022, 24 launches remain. ... Each Atlas V launch vehicle consists of two main stages. The first stage is powered by a Russian RD-180 engine manufactured by Energomash and burning kerosene and liquid oxygen. The Centaur upper stage is powered by one or two American RL10 engines manufactured by Aerojet Rocketdyne and burning liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_V


In addition, Russia will no longer launch foreign payloads from Russian launch facilities:

Quote:

Early Thursday morning (March 3), London-based company OneWeb announced that it's suspending launches of its satellites from the Russia-run Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan.

The decision came after Russia's federal space agency, Roscosmos, announced it would not launch 36 OneWeb internet satellites as planned on Friday (March 4) unless OneWeb guaranteed that the craft would not be used for military purposes and the United Kingdom government agreed to divest itself from OneWeb, which it helped buy out of bankruptcy in 2020.


https://www.space.com/russia-stops-rocket-engine-sales-space-cooperati
on-frays


Looks like NASA and commercial launches will depend on SpaceX engines.




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Monday, March 7, 2022 2:57 PM

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Quote:

Price of natural gas per 1,000 cubic meters in Europe reaches record-setting $730


https://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/Gas-Prices-In-Europe-Skyrocket
-Again-As-Supply-Risks-Grow.html


Quote:

Sanction Fears Send Palladium Prices Soaring

https://oilprice.com/Metals/Commodities/Sanction-Fears-Send-Palladium-
Prices-Soaring.html


Quote:

Analysts Warn Of $150 Oil If The West Bans Russian Crude

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Analysts-Warn-Of-150-Oil-If
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Monday, March 7, 2022 3:05 PM

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And finally...

It's too much of a PITA to provide links for everything, but bc Russia and Ukraine are major exporters of wheat, traders expect the price of wheat to rise considerably. Analysts are concerned there will be another "Arab Spring" due to rising wheat prices in the MENA.

And since corn depends heavily on fertilizer, and fertilizer is made from natural gas, I expect the price of fetilizer and subsequently the price of corn to rise.

Food prices, like fuel prices, are expected to rise.

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Monday, March 7, 2022 5:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Perhaps their exchange was prompted by this...

Quote:

Russia is stopping rocket engine sales to the US and their space chief said, ‘Let them fly on something else, their broomsticks’

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/17846831/russia-stops-selling-rocket-eng
ines-to-america
/

The RD-180 rocket engine is used to power Atlas V launches.

Quote:

Atlas V is an expendable launch system and the fifth major version in the Atlas launch vehicle family. It was originally designed by Lockheed Martin, now being operated by United Launch Alliance, a joint venture between Lockheed Martin and Boeing. Atlas V is also a major NASA launch vehicle. In August 2021, ULA announced that Atlas V would be retired, and all 29 remaining launches had been sold. As of 2 March 2022, 24 launches remain. ... Each Atlas V launch vehicle consists of two main stages. The first stage is powered by a Russian RD-180 engine manufactured by Energomash and burning kerosene and liquid oxygen. The Centaur upper stage is powered by one or two American RL10 engines manufactured by Aerojet Rocketdyne and burning liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_V


In addition, Russia will no longer launch foreign payloads from Russian launch facilities:

Quote:

Early Thursday morning (March 3), London-based company OneWeb announced that it's suspending launches of its satellites from the Russia-run Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan.

The decision came after Russia's federal space agency, Roscosmos, announced it would not launch 36 OneWeb internet satellites as planned on Friday (March 4) unless OneWeb guaranteed that the craft would not be used for military purposes and the United Kingdom government agreed to divest itself from OneWeb, which it helped buy out of bankruptcy in 2020.


https://www.space.com/russia-stops-rocket-engine-sales-space-cooperati
on-frays


Looks like NASA and commercial launches will depend on SpaceX engines.






You really are detached from reality aren't you comrade?

T



Elon Musk taunts Russia after they stop selling rocket engines to US

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/elon-musk-taunts-russia-stop-101815719
.html


Elon Musk points to recent SpaceX launch to mock Russia's suggestion the US might have to fly into space on 'broomsticks' after rocket sales stop

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/elon-musk-points-to-recent-s
pacex-launch-to-mock-russias-suggestion-the-us-might-have-to-fly-into-space-on-broomsticks-after-rocket-sales-stop/ar-AAUBzHY?ocid=uxbndlbing


After Russia's threat, Elon Musk says SpaceX can protect the ISS from deorbiting

https://interestingengineering.com/russia-elon-musk-spacex-protect-iss
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