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Friday, June 1, 2018 11:06 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Reposted for top of page reference:

Updating with today's Jobs Report data:

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-1

Jan 2002 is listed twice. First with original report data from February 2002. Second with revised data from new Census data, published in February 2003.

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
BLS currently defines the Want A Job category as not being part of the Labor Force.

So I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real.

I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.


Mo/Yr Unemp Pcnt WAJb Pcnt SubTtl Prcnt InvPT Pcnt Total Percnt CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U-6%
Jan98 07069 05.2% 5026 3.7% 12095 08.9% 4090 3.0% 16185 11.9% 204238 135951 66.6 09.3
Jan99 06604 04.8% 4800 3.5% 11404 08.3% 3645 2.6% 15049 10.9% 206719 137943 66.7 08.5
Jan00 06316 04.5% 4354 3.1% 10670 07.6% 3355 2.4% 14025 10.0% 208782 139621 66.9 07.8
Jan01 06647 04.7% 4474 3.2% 11121 07.9% 3559 2.5% 14680 10.4% 210889 141049 66.9 08.1
Jan02 08935 06.3% 4872 3.5% 13807 09.8% 4249 3.0% 18056 12.8% 213089 141074 66.2 10.5

Jan02 09051 06.3% 4938 3.4% 13989 09.8% 4453 3.1% 18442 12.9% 216506 143228 66.2 10.5
Jan03 09395 06.5% 4779 3.3% 14174 09.8% 5003 3.4% 19177 13.2% 219897 145301 66.1 11.0
Jan04 09144 06.3% 4913 3.4% 14057 09.6% 5152 3.5% 19209 13.2% 222161 146068 65.7 10.9
Jan05 08444 05.7% 5136 3.5% 13580 09.2% 4793 3.3% 18373 12.5% 224837 147125 65.4 10.2
Jan06 07608 05.1% 5095 3.4% 12703 08.5% 4513 3.0% 17216 11.5% 227553 149090 65.5 09.2
Jan07 07649 05.0% 4633 3.0% 12282 08.1% 4620 3.0% 16902 11.1% 230650 151924 65.9 09.1
Jan08 08221 05.4% 4977 3.2% 13198 08.6% 5235 3.5% 18433 12.1% 232616 152828 65.7 09.9
Jan09 13009 08.5% 5866 3.8% 18875 12.3% 8675 5.7% 27550 18.0% 234739 153445 65.4 15.4
Jan10 16147 10.6% 6108 4.0% 22255 14.6% 9161 5.9% 31416 20.5% 236832 152957 64.6 18.0
Jan11 14937 09.8% 6643 4.3% 21580 14.1% 9027 6.0% 30607 20.1% 238704 152536 63.9 17.3
Jan12 13541 08.8% 6495 4.3% 20036 13.1% 8747 5.7% 28783 18.8% 242269 153485 63.4 16.2
Jan13 13181 08.5% 6781 4.4% 19962 12.9% 8506 5.5% 28468 18.4% 244663 154794 63.3 15.4
Jan14 10855 07.0% 6508 4.2% 17363 11.2% 7617 5.0% 24980 16.2% 246915 154381 62.5 13.5
Jan15 09498 06.1% 6467 4.1% 15965 10.2% 7125 4.6% 23090 14.8% 249723 156050 62.5 12.0
Jan16 08309 05.3% 6166 3.9% 14475 09.2% 6234 4.0% 20709 13.2% 252397 157347 62.3 10.5
Jan17 08149 05.1% 5934 3.8% 14083 08.9% 6127 3.8% 20210 12.7% 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Jan18 07189 04.5% 5364 3.3% 12553 07.8% 5380 3.4% 17933 11.2% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9

Feb18 07091 04.4% 5152 3.2% 12243 07.6% 5241 3.2% 17484 10.8% 256934 161494 62.9 08.6
Mar18 06671 04.1% 4793 3.0% 11464 07.1% 4975 3.1% 16439 10.2% 257097 161548 62.8 08.1
Aprl18 05932 03.7% 5010 3.1% 10942 06.8% 4631 2.9% 15573 09.7% 257272 161280 62.7 07.4
May18 05657 03.6% 5696 3.5% 11353 07.0% 4677 2.9% 16030 09.9% 257454 161765 62.8 07.3


Jul 12 13400 08.6% 6837 4.3% 20237 12.9% 8218 5.3% 28455 18.2% 243354 156526 64.3 15.2
Aug12 12696 08.2% 7631 4.9% 20327 13.1% 7723 5.0% 28050 18.1% 243566 155255 63.7 14.6
Sep12 11742 07.6% 6427 4.1% 18169 11.7% 8003 5.2% 26172 16.9% 243772 155075 63.6 14.2
Oct12 11741 07.5% 6142 4.0% 17883 11.5% 7768 5.0% 25651 16.5% 243983 155779 63.8 13.9
Nov12 11404 07.4% 6495 4.2% 17899 11.6% 7898 5.0% 25797 16.6% 244174 154953 63.5 13.9


General color-coding guidelines:
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table.
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession.
This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count.


Quote:

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Want A Job category, which Obamanomics managed to increase to over 7 Million for the only time in the BLS tables. This Jan figure (Want A Job) didn't return to within 0.1% of 2008 level until 2018, after Trump's first year.
The figure of Unemployed plus Want A Job is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

The Want A Job count maxxed out in Aug 2012, just as Obama was proclaiming that Unemployment Rates had dropped, which he needed to get below 8.0% by October, in order to win re-election.

Well, it looks like the current U6 right now is lower than every January of the past 24 years, since the creation of U-6, according to BLS figures.

From 2009 to 2017, the Civilian noninstitutional Population grew by 19.343 Million. With a nominal post-9/11 Labor Participation Rate of 66%, the Labor Force would have grown by 12.766 Million. But Obama's Deep State reported that the Labor Force only grew by 5.231 Million. Labor Force is defined as all Employed + all Unemployed. So Obama would have you believe that during his 8 years, 7.5 Million extra Employ-eligible population were NOT unemployed (nor employed).



And splitting the table into 2 smaller versions:

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-1AB
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
BLS currently defines the Want A Job category as not being part of the Labor Force.

So I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real.

I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.


Mo/Yr Unemp Pcnt WAJb Pcnt SubTtl Prcnt InvPT Pcnt Total Percnt
Jan08 08221 05.4% 4977 3.2% 13198 08.6% 5235 3.5% 18433 12.1%
Jan09 13009 08.5% 5866 3.8% 18875 12.3% 8675 5.7% 27550 18.0%
Jan10 16147 10.6% 6108 4.0% 22255 14.6% 9161 5.9% 31416 20.5%
Jan11 14937 09.8% 6643 4.3% 21580 14.1% 9027 6.0% 30607 20.1%
Jan12 13541 08.8% 6495 4.3% 20036 13.1% 8747 5.7% 28783 18.8%
Jan13 13181 08.5% 6781 4.4% 19962 12.9% 8506 5.5% 28468 18.4%
Jan14 10855 07.0% 6508 4.2% 17363 11.2% 7617 5.0% 24980 16.2%
Jan15 09498 06.1% 6467 4.1% 15965 10.2% 7125 4.6% 23090 14.8%
Jan16 08309 05.3% 6166 3.9% 14475 09.2% 6234 4.0% 20709 13.2%
Jan17 08149 05.1% 5934 3.8% 14083 08.9% 6127 3.8% 20210 12.7%
Jan18 07189 04.5% 5364 3.3% 12553 07.8% 5380 3.4% 17933 11.2%

Feb18 07091 04.4% 5152 3.2% 12243 07.6% 5241 3.2% 17484 10.8%
Mar18 06671 04.1% 4793 3.0% 11464 07.1% 4975 3.1% 16439 10.2%
Apr18 05932 03.7% 5010 3.1% 10942 06.8% 4631 2.9% 15573 09.7%
May18 05657 03.6% 5696 3.5% 11353 07.0% 4677 2.9% 16030 09.9%


Jul 12 13400 08.6% 6837 4.3% 20237 12.9% 8218 5.3% 28455 18.2%
Aug12 12696 08.2% 7631 4.9% 20327 13.1% 7723 5.0% 28050 18.1%
Sep12 11742 07.6% 6427 4.1% 18169 11.7% 8003 5.2% 26172 16.9%
Oct12 11741 07.5% 6142 4.0% 17883 11.5% 7768 5.0% 25651 16.5%
Nov12 11404 07.4% 6495 4.2% 17899 11.6% 7898 5.0% 25797 16.6%




Mo/Yr Unemp Pcnt WAJb Pcnt Total Percnt CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U-6%
Jan08 08221 05.4% 4977 3.2% 18433 12.1% 232616 152828 65.7 09.9
Jan09 13009 08.5% 5866 3.8% 27550 18.0% 234739 153445 65.4 15.4
Jan10 16147 10.6% 6108 4.0% 31416 20.5% 236832 152957 64.6 18.0
Jan11 14937 09.8% 6643 4.3% 30607 20.1% 238704 152536 63.9 17.3
Jan12 13541 08.8% 6495 4.3% 28783 18.8% 242269 153485 63.4 16.2
Jan13 13181 08.5% 6781 4.4% 28468 18.4% 244663 154794 63.3 15.4
Jan14 10855 07.0% 6508 4.2% 24980 16.2% 246915 154381 62.5 13.5
Jan15 09498 06.1% 6467 4.1% 23090 14.8% 249723 156050 62.5 12.0
Jan16 08309 05.3% 6166 3.9% 20709 13.2% 252397 157347 62.3 10.5
Jan17 08149 05.1% 5934 3.8% 20210 12.7% 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Jan18 07189 04.5% 5364 3.3% 17933 11.2% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9

Feb18 07091 04.4% 5152 3.2% 17484 10.8% 256934 161494 62.9 08.6
Mar18 06671 04.1% 4793 3.0% 16439 10.2% 257097 161548 62.8 08.1
Apr18 05932 03.7% 5010 3.1% 15573 09.7% 257272 161280 62.7 07.4
May18 05657 03.6% 5696 3.5% 11353 07.0% 257454 161765 62.8 07.3



Jul 12 13400 08.6% 6837 4.3% 28455 18.2% 243354 156526 64.3 15.2
Aug12 12696 08.2% 7631 4.9% 28050 18.1% 243566 155255 63.7 14.6
Sep12 11742 07.6% 6427 4.1% 26172 16.9% 243772 155075 63.6 14.2
Oct12 11741 07.5% 6142 4.0% 25651 16.5% 243983 155779 63.8 13.9
Nov12 11404 07.4% 6495 4.2% 25797 16.6% 244174 154953 63.5 13.9
Quote:

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Want A Job category, which Obamanomics managed to increase to over 7 Million for the only time in the BLS tables. This Jan figure (Want A Job) didn't return to within 0.1% of 2008 level until 2018, after Trump's first year.
The figure of Unemployed plus Want A Job is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

The Want A Job count maxxed out in Aug 2012, just as Obama was proclaiming that Unemployment Rates had dropped, which he needed to get below 8.0% by October, in order to win re-election.




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Friday, June 1, 2018 11:07 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Updating with today's Jobs Report to this Table of Data, which seems to best show the components of U6:

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-2

Note: this year the Marginally Attached data is in Table A-16 of the report.
Quote:

I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real.

The BLS uses both Seasonally Adjusted figures and Unadjusted figures, and interchanges them without clearly identifying so. For example, the current Rate of 4.1% (for 4 months straight) is SeasAdj, and the real Rate is 4.5% for Jan 2018. I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.

Some numbers may have a 0 placed as first digit, to maintain column form in this format.

The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed. The 2nd column is the Rate.
The 3rd column is what is called Marginally Attached to the Labor Force, which is included in the Want A Job Now category but NOT included in the Labor Force category and therefore excluded from the reported Unemployment category. The 5th column is the sum of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached - which more accurately represents the Actual Unemployed. The 6th column is the Rate for column 5 figure.
The 7th column is the Involuntary Part-Time workers, who are Not Employed Full Time due to poor Economy, and want, are able to work FT. The 8th column is the Rate for column 7. The 9th column is the sum of the 5th column plus 7th column. 10th column is the Rate for column 9 figure. The Rates in columns 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 have the denominator of Labor Force.
The 11th column is the Civilian Population. 12th column is Labor Force, 13th column is Participation Rate. 14th column is the published U-6 figure.


Figures in thousands.

MoYr Unem Pct MrgAt Pct SbTtl Pcnt InvPT Pct Total Prcnt CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6%
Ja93 09911 07.9 2120 1.6 11612 09.0 6181 4.9 16575 12.8 192644 126034 65.4
Ja94 09492 07.3 2120 1.6 11612 09.0 4963 3.8 16575 12.8 195953 129393 66.0
Ja95 08101 06.2 1783 1.4 09884 07.6 4620 3.5 14504 11.1 197753 130698 66.1
Ja96 08270 06.3 1737 1.3 10007 07.6 4103 3.1 14110 10.7 199634 131396 65.8 10.8
Ja97 07933 05.9 1615 1.2 09548 07.1 4338 3.2 13886 10.3 202285 134317 66.4 10.4
Ja98 07069 05.2 1479 1.1 08548 06.3 4090 3.0 12638 09.3 204238 135951 66.6 09.3
Ja99 06604 04.8 1358 1.0 07962 05.8 3645 2.6 11607 08.4 206719 137943 66.7 08.5
Ja00 06316 04.5 1197 0.9 07513 05.4 3355 2.4 10868 07.8 208782 139621 66.9 07.8
Ja01 06647 04.7 1290 0.9 07937 05.6 3559 2.5 11496 08.2 210889 141049 66.9 08.1
Ja02 08935 06.3 1509 1.1 10444 07.4 4249 3.0 14693 10.4 213089 141074 66.2 10.5

Ja02 09051 06.3 1532 1.1 10583 07.4 4453 3.1 15036 10.5 216506 143228 66.2 10.5
Ja03 09395 06.5 1598 1.1 10993 07.6 5003 3.4 15996 11.0 219897 145301 66.1 11.0
Ja04 09144 06.3 1670 1.1 10814 07.4 5152 3.5 15966 10.9 222161 146068 65.7 10.9
Ja05 08444 05.7 1804 1.2 10248 07.0 4793 3.3 15041 10.2 224837 147125 65.4 10.2
Ja06 07608 05.1 1644 1.1 09252 06.2 4513 3.0 13765 09.2 227553 149090 65.5 09.2
Ja07 07649 05.0 1577 1.0 09226 06.1 4620 3.0 13846 09.1 230650 151924 65.9 09.1
Ja08 08221 05.4 1729 1.1 09950 06.5 5235 3.4 15185 09.9 232616 152828 65.7 09.9
Ja09 13009 08.5 2130 1.4 15139 09.9 8675 5.6 23814 15.5 234739 153445 65.4 15.4
Ja10 16147 10.6 2539 1.6 18686 12.2 9161 6.0 27847 18.2 236832 152957 64.6 18.0
Ja11 14937 09.8 2800 1.8 17737 11.6 9027 5.9 26764 17.5 238704 152536 63.9 17.3
Ja12 13541 08.8 2809 1.9 16350 10.7 8747 5.7 25097 16.4 242269 153485 63.4 16.2
Ja13 13181 08.5 2443 1.6 15624 10.1 8506 5.5 24130 15.6 244663 154794 63.3 15.4
Ja14 10855 07.0 2592 1.7 13447 08.7 7617 4.9 21064 13.6 246915 154381 62.5 13.5
Ja15 09498 06.1 2234 1.4 11732 07.5 7125 4.6 18857 12.1 249723 156050 62.5 12.0
Ja16 08309 05.3 2089 1.3 10398 06.6 6234 4.0 16632 10.6 252397 157347 62.3 10.5
Ja17 08149 05.1 1752 1.1 09901 06.2 6127 3.9 16028 10.1 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Ja18 07189 04.5 1653 1.0 08842 05.5 5380 3.4 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9

Fb18 07091 04.4 1602 1.0 08693 05.4 5241 3.2 13934 08.6 256934 161494 62.9 08.6
Mr18 06671 04.1 1454 0.9 08125 05.0 4975 3.1 13100 08.1 257097 161548 62.8 08.1
Ap18 05932 03.7 1362 0.8 07294 04.5 4631 2.9 11925 07.4 257272 161280 62.7 07.4
My18 05657 03.6 1455 0.9 07112 04.4 4677 2.9 11789 07.3 257454 161765 62.8 07.3


J l 12 13400 08.6 2529 1.6 15929 10.2 8218 5.2 24147 15.4 243354 156526 64.3
Au12 12696 08.2 2561 1.6 15257 09.8 7723 5.0 22980 14.8 243566 155255 63.7
Se12 11742 07.6 2517 1.6 14259 09.2 8003 5.2 22262 14.4 243772 155075 63.6
Oc12 11741 07.5 2433 1.6 14174 09.1 7768 5.0 21942 14.1 243983 155779 63.8
Nv12 11404 07.4 2505 1.6 13909 09.0 7898 5.1 21807 14.1 244174 154953 63.5


General color-coding guidelines:
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table.
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession.
This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count.

Quote:

Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935.
The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression.

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017.

The figure of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure. It does not return to Jan 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. For April 2018 this figure is lower than any January figure since it was created in 1994.
With Obamanomics pushing more into the Involuntary Part-Time group, this also got bloated to disguise the horrible Unemployment problems, and this Rate did not return to 2008 level until 2018.

The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.
By 2016 the Marginally Attached plus Involuntary Part-Time counts were more than the Fake Unemployment count.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

Some have mentioned concern regard a tight Labor Market, too many vacant jobs without enough bodies to fill them.
But we should remember to consider the Labor Participation Rate. At the turn of the century it was around 67%, and in the later Bush43 period it was 66%.
Just because Obamanomics was able to drive it down to the 62% range does not mean that is the new norm. That 5% loss of Participation Rate amounts to about 13 Million potential employees.
Sure, they may not need to live in their mom's basement anymore if they become employed, but life can just be rough.


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Friday, June 1, 2018 11:07 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


This Table of Data, which includes Not Fully Employed Rate.

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-3

I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow.

The BLS uses both Seasonally Adjusted figures and Unadjusted figures, and interchanges them without clearly identifying so. I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.

Some numbers may have a 0 placed as first digit, to maintain column form in this format.

The 1st column of numbers is the Unemployed.
The 2nd column is what is called Marginally Attached to the Labor Force, which is included in the Want A Job Now category but NOT included in the Labor Force category and therefore excluded from the reported Unemployment category.
The 3rd column is the Involuntary Part-Time workers, who are Not Employed Full Time due to poor Economy, and want, are able to work FT. The 4th column of numbers is the sum of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd columns. 5th column is the Rate for column 4 figure, divided by Labor Force.

The 6th column of numbers is the Subtotal of columns 1 and 3, Unemployed plus Involuntary Part-Time.
The 7th column is Labor Force minus column 6. This is also Employed minus column 3 Involuntary Part-Time. This is not a figure identified by BLS, so I will call it Actually Fully Employed. This is Employed Full-time plus Voluntary Part-Time.

Not listed, but Civilian noninstitutional Population minus Actually Fully Employed is also a figure avoided by BLS, and I will call it Not Fully Employed, which is Unemployed plus Involuntary Part-Time plus Marginally Attached plus Not In Labor Force. The 8th column is Not Fully Employed Rate, which is divided by Civilian noninstitutional Population.

The 9th column is the Civilian Population. 10th column is Labor Force, 11th column is Participation Rate. 12th column is the published U-6 figure.

Figures in thousands.

Mo/Yr Unem MrgAt InvPT Total Prcnt SubTtl AcEmpl NtEm CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6%
Jan94 09492 2120 4963 16575 12.8% 14455 114938 41.3% 195953 129393 66.0
Jan95 08101 1783 4620 14504 11.1% 12721 117923 40.4% 197753 130698 66.1
Jan96 08270 1737 4103 14110 10.7% 12373 119023 40.4% 199634 131396 65.8 10.8
Jan97 07933 1615 4338 13886 10.3% 12271 122046 39.7% 202285 134317 66.4 10.4
Jan98 07069 1479 4090 12638 09.3% 11159 124798 38.9% 204238 135951 66.6 09.3
Jan99 06604 1358 3645 11607 08.4% 10249 127694 38.2% 206719 137943 66.7 08.5
Jan00 06316 1197 3355 10868 07.8% 09671 129950 37.8% 208782 139621 66.9 07.8
Jan01 06647 1290 3559 11496 08.2% 10206 130843 38.0% 210889 141049 66.9 08.1
Jan02 08935 1509 4249 14693 10.4% 13184 127890 40.0% 213089 141074 66.2 10.5

Jan02 09051 1532 4453 15036 10.5% 13504 129724 40.1% 216506 143228 66.2 10.5
Jan03 09395 1598 5003 15996 11.0% 14398 130903 40.5% 219897 145301 66.1 11.0
Jan04 09144 1670 5152 15966 10.9% 14296 131772 40.7% 222161 146068 65.7 10.9
Jan05 08444 1804 4793 15041 10.2% 13237 133888 40.5% 224837 147125 65.4 10.2
Jan06 07608 1644 4513 13765 09.2% 12122 136978 39.8% 227553 149090 65.5 09.2
Jan07 07649 1577 4620 13846 09.1% 12269 139655 39.5% 230650 151924 65.9 09.1
Jan08 08221 1729 5235 15185 09.9% 13456 139372 40.1% 232616 152828 65.7 09.9
Jan09 13009 2130 8675 23814 15.5% 21684 131761 43.9% 234739 153445 65.4 15.4
Jan10 16147 2539 9161 27847 18.2% 25308 127649 46.1% 236832 152957 64.6 18.0
Jan11 14937 2800 9027 26764 17.5% 23964 128572 46.1% 238704 152536 63.9 17.3
Jan12 13541 2809 8747 25097 16.4% 22288 131197 45.8% 242269 153485 63.4 16.2
Jan13 13181 2443 8506 24130 15.6% 21687 133107 45.6% 244663 154794 63.3 15.4
Jan14 10855 2592 7617 21064 13.6% 18472 135909 45.0% 246915 154381 62.5 13.5
Jan15 09498 2234 7125 18857 12.1% 16623 139427 44.2% 249723 156050 62.5 12.0
Jan16 08309 2089 6234 16632 10.6% 14543 142804 43.4% 252397 157347 62.3 10.5
Jan17 08149 1752 6127 16028 10.1% 14276 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Jan18 07189 1653 5380 14222 08.9% 12569 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9


Jan17 08149 1752 6127 16028 10.1% 14276 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Feb17 07887 1723 5700 14310 09.0% 13587 145895 42.6% 254246 159482 62.7 09.5
Mar17 07289 1595 5498 14381 09.0% 12787 147125 42.2% 254414 159912 62.9 08.9
Apr17 06555 1534 4990 13079 08.2% 11545 148272 41.8% 254588 159817 62.8 08.1
My 17 06572 1475 4994 13041 08.2% 11566 148413 41.7% 254767 159979 62.8 08.1
Jun17 07250 1582 5555 14387 08.9% 12805 148532 41.7% 254957 161337 63.3 08.9
Jul 17 07441 1629 5430 14500 09.0% 12871 149040 41.6% 255151 161911 63.5 08.9
Aug17 07287 1548 5130 13965 08.7% 12417 148446 41.9% 255357 160863 63.0 08.6
Sep17 06556 1569 4740 12865 08.0% 11296 149753 41.4% 255562 161049 63.0 08.0
Oct17 06242 1535 4496 12273 07.6% 10738 149727 41.5% 255766 160465 62.7 07.6
Nov17 06286 1481 4554 12321 07.7% 10840 149626 41.5% 255949 160466 62.7 07.7
Dec17 06278 1623 4992 12893 08.1% 11270 148610 42.0% 256109 159880 62.4 08.0

Jan18 07189 1653 5380 14222 08.9% 12569 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9
Feb18 07091 1602 5241 13934 08.6% 12332 149162 41.9% 256934 161494 62.9 08.6
Mar18 06671 1454 4975 13100 08.1% 11646 149902 41.7% 257097 161548 62.8 08.1
Apr18 05932 1362 4631 11925 07.4% 10563 150717 41.4% 257272 161280 62.7 07.4
My 18 05657 1455 4677 11789 07.3% 10334 151431 41.2% 257454 161765 62.8 07.3


Jul 12 13400 2529 8218 24147 15.4% 21618 134908 44.1% 243354 156526 64.3
Aug12 12696 2561 7723 22980 14.8% 20419 134836 44.6% 243566 155255 63.7
Sep12 11742 2517 8003 22262 14.4% 19745 135330 44.5% 243772 155075 63.6
Oct12 11741 2433 7768 21942 14.1% 19509 136270 44.1% 243983 155779 63.8
Nov12 11404 2505 7898 21807 14.1% 19302 135651 44.4% 244174 154953 63.5


General color-coding guidelines:
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table.
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession.
This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count.

Quote:

Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935.
The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression.

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017.
With Obamanomics pushing more into the Involuntary Part-Time group, this also got bloated to disguise the horrible Unemployment problems, and this Rate did not return to 2008 level until 2018.

The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.


The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

Some have mentioned concern regard a tight Labor Market, too many vacant jobs without enough bodies to fill them.
But we should remember to consider the Labor Participation Rate. At the turn of the century it was around 67%, and in the later Bush43 period it was 66%.
Just because Obamanomics was able to drive it down to the 62% range does not mean that is the new norm. That 5% loss of Participation Rate amounts to about 13 Million potential employees.
Sure, they may not need to live in their mom's basement anymore if they become employed, but life can just be rough.


In the previous Tables of data, we can see that as far as common Indicators are concerned, all figures, totals, and Subtotals are at or near all-time lows (since the creation of U-6 in 1994) under Trump. But the categories are still manipulated, and potentially misrepresented.
So to help understand how much of the population is actually not allowed to be Employed Full-time when they want to, I have included in the above Table the 8th column of numbers, the Not Fully Employed Rate, which is a percentage of the Civilian noninstitutional Population. Because of the much larger denominator this figure will not have such drastic swings as other figures reported. This can help demonstrate how many are still able to fill a "tight Labor Market" which some are worried about. It can also provide an unvarnished picture of how many are not working, and compare to other periods since U-6 was created. These 2 figures help show how the Labor Force Participation Rate and U-6 realistically work together.

Even with this new figure, it is the lowest since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession, which began October 2007 at the start of FY2008.

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Friday, June 1, 2018 11:09 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


This Table of Data, where I included the Margin of Gain for Labor Force, and Margin of Gain for Actually Fully Employed:

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-4

I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow.

The BLS uses both Seasonally Adjusted figures and Unadjusted figures, and interchanges them without clearly identifying so. I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.

Some numbers may have a 0 placed as first digit, to maintain column form in this format.

The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed.
The 2nd column is what is called Marginally Attached to the Labor Force, which is included in the Want A Job Now category but NOT included in the Labor Force category and therefore excluded from the reported Unemployment category.
The 3rd column is the Involuntary Part-Time workers, who are Not Employed Full Time due to poor Economy, and want, are able to work FT.
The 4th column is the sum of the first 3 columns. 5th column is the Rate for column 4 figure, with Labor Force as the denominator.
The 6th column of numbers is the Subtotal of columns 1 and 3, Unemployed plus Involuntary Part-Time.
The 7th column is Labor Force minus column 6. This is also Employed minus column 3 Involuntary Part-Time. This is not a figure identified by BLS, so I will call it Actually Fully Employed. This is Employed Full-time plus Voluntary Part-Time.
Not listed, but Civilian noninstitutional Population minus Actually Fully Employed is also a figure avoided by BLS, and I will call it Not Fully Employed, which is Unemployed plus Involuntary Part-Time plus Marginally Attached plus Not In Labor Force. The 8th column is Not Fully Employed Rate, which is divided by Civilian noninstitutional Population.
The 9th column is the Civilian Population. 10th column is Labor Force, 11th column is Participation Rate.
The 12th column is Marginal Labor Force Rate. This percent is the gain of the Labor Force divided by the gain of the Civilian noninstitutional Population.
The 13th column is the Marginal Actual Fully Employed Rate. This percent is the gain in the Actual Fully Employed divided by the gain of the Civilian noninstitutional Population.

Figures in thousands.

MoYr Unem MrgAt InvPT Total Prct SubTtl AcEmpl NtEm CivPop LbrForc Prtc% MgLF MgAE
Ja94 09492 2120 4963 16575 12.8 14455 114938 41.3% 195953 129393 66.0 +101.5
Ja95 08101 1783 4620 14504 11.1 12721 117923 40.4% 197753 130698 66.1 +072.5 +165.8
Ja96 08270 1737 4103 14110 10.7 12373 119023 40.4% 199634 131396 65.8 +037.1 +058.5
Ja97 07933 1615 4338 13886 10.3 12271 122046 39.7% 202285 134317 66.4 +110.2 +114.1
Ja98 07069 1479 4090 12638 09.3 11159 124798 38.9% 204238 135951 66.6 +083.7 +140.9
Ja99 06604 1358 3645 11607 08.4 10249 127694 38.2% 206719 137943 66.7 +080.3 +116.7
Ja00 06316 1197 3355 10868 07.8 09671 129950 37.8% 208782 139621 66.9 +081.3 +109.4
Ja01 06647 1290 3559 11496 08.2 10206 130843 38.0% 210889 141049 66.9 +067.8 +042.4
Ja02 08935 1509 4249 14693 10.4 13184 127890 40.0% 213089 141074 66.2 +001.1 --134.2

Ja02 09051 1532 4453 15036 10.5 13504 129724 40.1% 216506 143228 66.2 +038.8 --019.9
Ja03 09395 1598 5003 15996 11.0 14398 130903 40.5% 219897 145301 66.1 +061.1 +034.8
Ja04 09144 1670 5152 15966 10.9 14296 131772 40.7% 222161 146068 65.7 +033.9 +038.4
Ja05 08444 1804 4793 15041 10.2 13237 133888 40.5% 224837 147125 65.4 +039.5 +079.1
Ja06 07608 1644 4513 13765 09.2 12122 136978 39.8% 227553 149090 65.5 +072.3 +113.8
Ja07 07649 1577 4620 13846 09.1 12269 139655 39.5% 230650 151924 65.9 +091.5 +086.4
Ja08 08221 1729 5235 15185 09.9 13456 139372 40.1% 232616 152828 65.7 +046.0 --014.4
Ja09 13009 2130 8675 23814 15.5 21684 131761 43.9% 234739 153445 65.4 +029.1 --358.5
Ja10 16147 2539 9161 27847 18.2 25308 127649 46.1% 236832 152957 64.6 --023.3 --196.5
Ja11 14937 2800 9027 26764 17.5 23964 128572 46.1% 238704 152536 63.9 --022.5 +049.3
Ja12 13541 2809 8747 25097 16.4 22288 131197 45.8% 242269 153485 63.4 +026.6 +073.6
Ja13 13181 2443 8506 24130 15.6 21687 133107 45.6% 244663 154794 63.3 +054.7 +079.8
Ja14 10855 2592 7617 21064 13.6 18472 135909 45.0% 246915 154381 62.5 --018.3 +124.4
Ja15 09498 2234 7125 18857 12.1 16623 139427 44.2% 249723 156050 62.5 +059.4 +125.3
Ja16 08309 2089 6234 16632 10.6 14543 142804 43.4% 252397 157347 62.3 +055.8 +145.6
Ja17 08149 1752 6127 16028 10.1 14276 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5 +078.9 +094.7
Ja18 07189 1653 5380 14222 08.9 12569 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3 +050.4 +113.7

Fb18 07091 1602 5241 13934 08.6 12332 149162 41.9% 256934 161494 62.9 +946.1 1100.0
Mr18 06671 1454 4975 13100 08.1 11646 149902 41.7% 257097 161548 62.8 +033.1 +454.0
Ap18 05932 1362 4631 11925 07.4 10563 150717 41.4% 257272 161280 62.7 --153.1 +456.7
My18 05657 1455 4677 11789 07.3 10334 151160 41.3% 257454 161765 62.8 +266.5 +243.4


Jl 12 13400 2529 8218 24147 15.4 21618 134908 44.1% 243354 156526 64.3
Ag12 12696 2561 7723 22980 14.8 20419 134836 44.6% 243566 155255 63.7 --598.6 --034.0
Se12 11742 2517 8003 22262 14.4 19745 135330 44.5% 243772 155075 63.6 --087.4 +239.8
Oc12 11741 2433 7768 21942 14.1 19509 136270 44.1% 243983 155779 63.8 +333.6 +445.5
No12 11404 2505 7898 21807 14.1 19302 135651 44.4% 244174 154953 63.5 --432.5 --324.1


General color-coding guidelines:
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table.
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession.
This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count.
This color highlights Actually Employed figures which have not recovered from a prior high count.
This color highlights growth of Civilian noninstitutional Population over 3 Million, 18 years after relevant births.


Quote:

Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935.
The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression.

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017.
With Obamanomics pushing more into the Involuntary Part-Time group, this also got bloated to disguise the horrible Unemployment problems, and this Rate did not return to 2008 level until 2018.

The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

Some have mentioned concern regard a tight Labor Market, too many vacant jobs without enough bodies to fill them.
But we should remember to consider the Labor Participation Rate. At the turn of the century it was around 67%, and in the later Bush43 period it was 66%.
Just because Obamanomics was able to drive it down to the 62% range does not mean that is the new norm. That 5% loss of Participation Rate amounts to about 13 Million potential employees.
Sure, they may not need to live in their mom's basement anymore if they become employed, but life can just be rough.


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Saturday, June 2, 2018 7:33 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Damn... all of those IN locations are way deeper in the state than I am. The closest would be South Bend, but that's about 80 miles from me.

I'm still going to put my resume on file there and see if I can't build up a rapport with somebody. Never know what the future might hold, and I'm not in a desperate situation right now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

That was just one area that I found a link for. You didn't tell me where you were. It's the same company nationwide. Contact them first and let them know where you can go.
I heard it's growing, so get in before everybody gets in front of you.



I'm closer to Chicago than anything else, really. Seriously right over the boarder. That's why I've said before it's ridiculous that my family in Illinois have to pay 5 to 10 times as much in property taxes than I do because I didn't mind living in Indiana. I'm like a 20 minute drive from my brother and his property taxes are 5 times as much as mine are even though our homes are essentially the same size and build style, and I've got 3 times the land. If I had to pay his property taxes I would have only started making money at my job after paying those taxes sometime last month.


The link you gave me had quite a few states and locations. They had 3 locations in Indiana, but the closest is South Bend. Indianapolis was another one and I've never heard of the 3rd, but it's really far too.

I plan on doing more than sending my resume. I'd like to get in contact with somebody there and let them know how exciting I find their business to be, and to let them know that I have plenty of similar experience and all of those certifications in Mechatronics as well.

I'll even let them know that though I'm not actively seeking employment and that I like where I work now, I would "defect" if there were job opening near me in the future. Depending on how steady the work is, I would eventually be willing to travel up to 50 miles, but that would be after I've been there a while and could afford better transportation. I think the limit I'm comfortable with at the moment is only around 25 miles.







Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, June 6, 2018 12:45 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Apparently, for this first time in history, the number of Job Vacancies is greater than the number of Job Seekers.

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Wednesday, June 6, 2018 1:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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lol. That's funny.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, June 7, 2018 9:17 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Updating with today's report data:

Jobless Claims.

Apparently the 209,000 reported on 26 April 2018 was the lowest since 1969. And the 210,000 on 1 March was too.

Other weeks:

230,000 1 February
221,000 8 February
229,000 15 February
222,000 22 February
210,000 1 March - 4wk avg 221
230,000 8 March
226,000 15 March
227,000 22 March
215,000 29 March - 4wk avg 225
242,000 5 April
233,000 12 April
233,000 19 April
209,000 26 April - Apr avg 229
211,000 3 May
211,000 10 May
223,000 17 May
234,000 24 May - May avg 220
221,000 31 May (for week ending 26 May) - May avg 220
222,000 7 June (for week ending 2 June)

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Saturday, June 9, 2018 3:42 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I've been noticing something in the data that I had not been looking at before.

It might be little surprise that Bachelor Grads have a higher employment rate that the general population.
But it looks like no matter the level of college degree or participation, there are 2 specific groups identified which have both higher Labor Force Participation Rates and higher Employment Rates than any of the college attendees.
These 2 groups are:
Gulf War I era Veterans.
Gulf War II era Veterans.

A lower rate is attached to Veterans of the combined eras of Vietnam, Korea, WWII. A Vet of most recent era of Vietnam would be about minimum 61 year old vintage, and average well over 65. Korea vintage would be 83 or older. WWII would be 90 or older. Not sure of the purpose of that combined category.

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Saturday, June 9, 2018 4:30 PM

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Tuesday, June 12, 2018 11:22 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Updating with today's Jobs Report to this Table of Data, which seems to best show the components of U6:

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-2

Note: this year the Marginally Attached data is in Table A-16 of the report.
Quote:

I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real.

The BLS uses both Seasonally Adjusted figures and Unadjusted figures, and interchanges them without clearly identifying so. For example, the current Rate of 4.1% (for 4 months straight) is SeasAdj, and the real Rate is 4.5% for Jan 2018. I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.

Some numbers may have a 0 placed as first digit, to maintain column form in this format.

The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed. The 2nd column is the Rate.
The 3rd column is what is called Marginally Attached to the Labor Force, which is included in the Want A Job Now category but NOT included in the Labor Force category and therefore excluded from the reported Unemployment category. The 5th column is the sum of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached - which more accurately represents the Actual Unemployed. The 6th column is the Rate for column 5 figure.
The 7th column is the Involuntary Part-Time workers, who are Not Employed Full Time due to poor Economy, and want, are able to work FT. The 8th column is the Rate for column 7. The 9th column is the sum of the 5th column plus 7th column. 10th column is the Rate for column 9 figure. The Rates in columns 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 have the denominator of Labor Force.
The 11th column is the Civilian Population. 12th column is Labor Force, 13th column is Participation Rate. 14th column is the published U-6 figure.



Figures in thousands.

MoYr Unem Pct MrgAt Pct SbTtl Pcnt InvPT Pct Total Prcnt CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6%
Ja93 09911 07.9 2120 1.6 11612 09.0 6181 4.9 16575 12.8 192644 126034 65.4
Ja94 09492 07.3 2120 1.6 11612 09.0 4963 3.8 16575 12.8 195953 129393 66.0
Ja95 08101 06.2 1783 1.4 09884 07.6 4620 3.5 14504 11.1 197753 130698 66.1
Ja96 08270 06.3 1737 1.3 10007 07.6 4103 3.1 14110 10.7 199634 131396 65.8 10.8
Ja97 07933 05.9 1615 1.2 09548 07.1 4338 3.2 13886 10.3 202285 134317 66.4 10.4
Ja98 07069 05.2 1479 1.1 08548 06.3 4090 3.0 12638 09.3 204238 135951 66.6 09.3
Ja99 06604 04.8 1358 1.0 07962 05.8 3645 2.6 11607 08.4 206719 137943 66.7 08.5
Ja00 06316 04.5 1197 0.9 07513 05.4 3355 2.4 10868 07.8 208782 139621 66.9 07.8
Ja01 06647 04.7 1290 0.9 07937 05.6 3559 2.5 11496 08.2 210889 141049 66.9 08.1
Ja02 08935 06.3 1509 1.1 10444 07.4 4249 3.0 14693 10.4 213089 141074 66.2 10.5

Ja02 09051 06.3 1532 1.1 10583 07.4 4453 3.1 15036 10.5 216506 143228 66.2 10.5
Ja03 09395 06.5 1598 1.1 10993 07.6 5003 3.4 15996 11.0 219897 145301 66.1 11.0
Ja04 09144 06.3 1670 1.1 10814 07.4 5152 3.5 15966 10.9 222161 146068 65.7 10.9
Ja05 08444 05.7 1804 1.2 10248 07.0 4793 3.3 15041 10.2 224837 147125 65.4 10.2
Ja06 07608 05.1 1644 1.1 09252 06.2 4513 3.0 13765 09.2 227553 149090 65.5 09.2
Ja07 07649 05.0 1577 1.0 09226 06.1 4620 3.0 13846 09.1 230650 151924 65.9 09.1
Ja08 08221 05.4 1729 1.1 09950 06.5 5235 3.4 15185 09.9 232616 152828 65.7 09.9
Ja09 13009 08.5 2130 1.4 15139 09.9 8675 5.6 23814 15.5 234739 153445 65.4 15.4
Ja10 16147 10.6 2539 1.6 18686 12.2 9161 6.0 27847 18.2 236832 152957 64.6 18.0
Ja11 14937 09.8 2800 1.8 17737 11.6 9027 5.9 26764 17.5 238704 152536 63.9 17.3
Ja12 13541 08.8 2809 1.9 16350 10.7 8747 5.7 25097 16.4 242269 153485 63.4 16.2
Ja13 13181 08.5 2443 1.6 15624 10.1 8506 5.5 24130 15.6 244663 154794 63.3 15.4
Ja14 10855 07.0 2592 1.7 13447 08.7 7617 4.9 21064 13.6 246915 154381 62.5 13.5
Ja15 09498 06.1 2234 1.4 11732 07.5 7125 4.6 18857 12.1 249723 156050 62.5 12.0
Ja16 08309 05.3 2089 1.3 10398 06.6 6234 4.0 16632 10.6 252397 157347 62.3 10.5
Ja17 08149 05.1 1752 1.1 09901 06.2 6127 3.9 16028 10.1 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Ja18 07189 04.5 1653 1.0 08842 05.5 5380 3.4 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9

Fb18 07091 04.4 1602 1.0 08693 05.4 5241 3.2 13934 08.6 256934 161494 62.9 08.6
Mr18 06671 04.1 1454 0.9 08125 05.0 4975 3.1 13100 08.1 257097 161548 62.8 08.1
Ap18 05932 03.7 1362 0.8 07294 04.5 4631 2.9 11925 07.4 257272 161280 62.7 07.4
My18 05657 03.6 1455 0.9 07112 04.4 4677 2.9 11789 07.3 257454 161765 62.8 07.3


J l 12 13400 08.6 2529 1.6 15929 10.2 8218 5.2 24147 15.4 243354 156526 64.3
Au12 12696 08.2 2561 1.6 15257 09.8 7723 5.0 22980 14.8 243566 155255 63.7
Se12 11742 07.6 2517 1.6 14259 09.2 8003 5.2 22262 14.4 243772 155075 63.6
Oc12 11741 07.5 2433 1.6 14174 09.1 7768 5.0 21942 14.1 243983 155779 63.8
Nv12 11404 07.4 2505 1.6 13909 09.0 7898 5.1 21807 14.1 244174 154953 63.5


General color-coding guidelines:
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table.
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession.
This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count.

Quote:

Quote:

Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935.
The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression.

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017.

The figure of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure. It does not return to Jan 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. For April 2018 this figure is lower than any January figure since it was created in 1994.
With Obamanomics pushing more into the Involuntary Part-Time group, this also got bloated to disguise the horrible Unemployment problems, and this Rate did not return to 2008 level until 2018.

The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.
By 2016 the Marginally Attached plus Involuntary Part-Time counts were more than the Fake Unemployment count.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

Some have mentioned concern regard a tight Labor Market, too many vacant jobs without enough bodies to fill them.
But we should remember to consider the Labor Participation Rate. At the turn of the century it was around 67%, and in the later Bush43 period it was 66%.
Just because Obamanomics was able to drive it down to the 62% range does not mean that is the new norm. That 5% loss of Participation Rate amounts to about 13 Million potential employees.
Sure, they may not need to live in their mom's basement anymore if they become employed, but life can just be rough.



I just saw some moron in another thread touting Obama's outstanding Unemployment figures.

While Bush43 had 5.0% U-3 Unemployment Rate before Rock-The-Vote Democraps created their Great Recession, Obama was able to get it all the way down to 5.1% to hand off to Trump.
And while Bush43 had 9.1% U-6 Unemployment Rate before Rock-The-Vote Democraps created their Great Recession, Obama was able to get it all the way down to 10.1% to hand off to Trump.

Bush43 was adding 235,000 per month avg to Labor Force (2,834,000 for the year - after 2,965,000 the prior year - and never had less than 1 Million increase in a year), while Obama managed to hemorrhage Labor Force losses for 3 of his 8 years (and never added more than 1.67 Million in any year). In fact, Obama managed to keep Labor Force increase down to 5.2 Million for his entire 8 year Reign - less than any 3 years of Bush43.

And now Trump is destroying all of Obama's hard work to bloat Unemployed, making U-3 Rate 3.6% and U-6 Rate 7.3%. Trump just doesn't appreciate how hard Obama toiled to destroy America, like when he peaked in Jan 2010 with 10.6% U-3 and 18.0% U-6.

In Trump's first full year, from Feb 2017 to Feb 2018, he added 2.012 Million Labor Force.

As usual, Libtards give morons a really bad name.

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Thursday, June 14, 2018 8:55 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Updating with today's report data:

Jobless Claims.

Apparently the 209,000 reported on 26 April 2018 was the lowest since 1969. And the 210,000 on 1 March was too.

Other weeks:

230,000 1 February
221,000 8 February
229,000 15 February
222,000 22 February
210,000 1 March - 4wk avg 221
230,000 8 March
226,000 15 March
227,000 22 March
215,000 29 March - 4wk avg 225
242,000 5 April
233,000 12 April
233,000 19 April
209,000 26 April - Apr avg 229
211,000 3 May
211,000 10 May
223,000 17 May
234,000 24 May - May avg 220
221,000 31 May (for week ending 26 May) - May avg 220
222,000 7 June (for week ending 2 June)
218,000 14 June

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Thursday, June 21, 2018 11:09 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Updating with today's report data:

Jobless Claims.

Apparently the 209,000 reported on 26 April 2018 was the lowest since 1969. And the 210,000 on 1 March was too.

Other weeks:

230,000 1 February
221,000 8 February
229,000 15 February
222,000 22 February
210,000 1 March - 4wk avg 221
230,000 8 March
226,000 15 March
227,000 22 March
215,000 29 March - 4wk avg 225
242,000 5 April
233,000 12 April
233,000 19 April
209,000 26 April - Apr avg 229
211,000 3 May
211,000 10 May
223,000 17 May
234,000 24 May - May avg 220
221,000 31 May (for week ending 26 May) - May avg 220
222,000 7 June (for week ending 2 June)
218,000 14 June
218,000 21 June - June avg 219

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Thursday, June 28, 2018 11:25 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Updating with today's report data:

Jobless Claims.

Apparently the 209,000 reported on 26 April 2018 was the lowest since 1969. And the 210,000 on 1 March was too.

Other weeks:

230,000 1 February
221,000 8 February
229,000 15 February
222,000 22 February
210,000 1 March - 4wk avg 221
230,000 8 March
226,000 15 March
227,000 22 March
215,000 29 March - 4wk avg 225
242,000 5 April
233,000 12 April
233,000 19 April
209,000 26 April - Apr avg 229
211,000 3 May
211,000 10 May
223,000 17 May
234,000 24 May - May avg 220
221,000 31 May (for week ending 26 May) - May avg 220
222,000 7 June (for week ending 2 June)
218,000 14 June
218,000 21 June
227,000 28 June - June avg 221

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Thursday, June 28, 2018 11:30 AM

REAVERFAN


Meaningless without context.

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Thursday, June 28, 2018 11:41 AM

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The context is that the lower half of the country now makes less money next to inflation than at nearly any time in recorded history.

But hey... McDonalds is hiring. Yay!

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, June 29, 2018 5:00 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Next Unemployment report is 6 July.

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Thursday, July 5, 2018 1:09 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Updating with today's report data:

Jobless Claims.

Apparently the 209,000 reported on 26 April 2018 was the lowest since 1969. And the 210,000 on 1 March was too.

Other weeks:

230,000 1 February
221,000 8 February
229,000 15 February
222,000 22 February
210,000 1 March - 4wk avg 221
230,000 8 March
226,000 15 March
227,000 22 March
215,000 29 March - 4wk avg 225
242,000 5 April
233,000 12 April
233,000 19 April
209,000 26 April - Apr avg 229
211,000 3 May
211,000 10 May
223,000 17 May
234,000 24 May - May avg 220
221,000 31 May (for week ending 26 May) - May avg 220
222,000 7 June (for week ending 2 June)
218,000 14 June
218,000 21 June
227,000 28 June - June avg 221
231,000 5 July

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Friday, July 6, 2018 8:52 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Reposted for top of page reference:

Updating with today's Jobs Report data:

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-1

Jan 2002 is listed twice. First with original report data from February 2002. Second with revised data from new Census data, published in February 2003.

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
BLS currently defines the Want A Job category as not being part of the Labor Force.

So I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real.

I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.


Mo/Yr Unemp Pcnt WAJb Pcnt SubTtl Prcnt InvPT Pcnt Total Percnt CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U-6%
Jan98 07069 05.2% 5026 3.7% 12095 08.9% 4090 3.0% 16185 11.9% 204238 135951 66.6 09.3
Jan99 06604 04.8% 4800 3.5% 11404 08.3% 3645 2.6% 15049 10.9% 206719 137943 66.7 08.5
Jan00 06316 04.5% 4354 3.1% 10670 07.6% 3355 2.4% 14025 10.0% 208782 139621 66.9 07.8
Jan01 06647 04.7% 4474 3.2% 11121 07.9% 3559 2.5% 14680 10.4% 210889 141049 66.9 08.1
Jan02 08935 06.3% 4872 3.5% 13807 09.8% 4249 3.0% 18056 12.8% 213089 141074 66.2 10.5

Jan02 09051 06.3% 4938 3.4% 13989 09.8% 4453 3.1% 18442 12.9% 216506 143228 66.2 10.5
Jan03 09395 06.5% 4779 3.3% 14174 09.8% 5003 3.4% 19177 13.2% 219897 145301 66.1 11.0
Jan04 09144 06.3% 4913 3.4% 14057 09.6% 5152 3.5% 19209 13.2% 222161 146068 65.7 10.9
Jan05 08444 05.7% 5136 3.5% 13580 09.2% 4793 3.3% 18373 12.5% 224837 147125 65.4 10.2
Jan06 07608 05.1% 5095 3.4% 12703 08.5% 4513 3.0% 17216 11.5% 227553 149090 65.5 09.2
Jan07 07649 05.0% 4633 3.0% 12282 08.1% 4620 3.0% 16902 11.1% 230650 151924 65.9 09.1
Jan08 08221 05.4% 4977 3.2% 13198 08.6% 5235 3.5% 18433 12.1% 232616 152828 65.7 09.9
Jan09 13009 08.5% 5866 3.8% 18875 12.3% 8675 5.7% 27550 18.0% 234739 153445 65.4 15.4
Jan10 16147 10.6% 6108 4.0% 22255 14.6% 9161 5.9% 31416 20.5% 236832 152957 64.6 18.0
Jan11 14937 09.8% 6643 4.3% 21580 14.1% 9027 6.0% 30607 20.1% 238704 152536 63.9 17.3
Jan12 13541 08.8% 6495 4.3% 20036 13.1% 8747 5.7% 28783 18.8% 242269 153485 63.4 16.2
Jan13 13181 08.5% 6781 4.4% 19962 12.9% 8506 5.5% 28468 18.4% 244663 154794 63.3 15.4
Jan14 10855 07.0% 6508 4.2% 17363 11.2% 7617 5.0% 24980 16.2% 246915 154381 62.5 13.5
Jan15 09498 06.1% 6467 4.1% 15965 10.2% 7125 4.6% 23090 14.8% 249723 156050 62.5 12.0
Jan16 08309 05.3% 6166 3.9% 14475 09.2% 6234 4.0% 20709 13.2% 252397 157347 62.3 10.5
Jan17 08149 05.1% 5934 3.8% 14083 08.9% 6127 3.8% 20210 12.7% 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Jan18 07189 04.5% 5364 3.3% 12553 07.8% 5380 3.4% 17933 11.2% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9

Feb18 07091 04.4% 5152 3.2% 12243 07.6% 5241 3.2% 17484 10.8% 256934 161494 62.9 08.6
Mar18 06671 04.1% 4793 3.0% 11464 07.1% 4975 3.1% 16439 10.2% 257097 161548 62.8 08.1
Aprl18 05932 03.7% 5010 3.1% 10942 06.8% 4631 2.9% 15573 09.7% 257272 161280 62.7 07.4
May18 05657 03.6% 5696 3.5% 11353 07.0% 4677 2.9% 16030 09.9% 257454 161765 62.8 07.3
Jun18 06812 04.2% 5654 3.5% 12466 07.6% 4974 3.0% 17440 10.7% 257642 163277 63.4 08.1


Jul 12 13400 08.6% 6837 4.3% 20237 12.9% 8218 5.3% 28455 18.2% 243354 156526 64.3 15.2
Aug12 12696 08.2% 7631 4.9% 20327 13.1% 7723 5.0% 28050 18.1% 243566 155255 63.7 14.6
Sep12 11742 07.6% 6427 4.1% 18169 11.7% 8003 5.2% 26172 16.9% 243772 155075 63.6 14.2
Oct12 11741 07.5% 6142 4.0% 17883 11.5% 7768 5.0% 25651 16.5% 243983 155779 63.8 13.9
Nov12 11404 07.4% 6495 4.2% 17899 11.6% 7898 5.0% 25797 16.6% 244174 154953 63.5 13.9


General color-coding guidelines:
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table.
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession.
This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count.


Quote:

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Want A Job category, which Obamanomics managed to increase to over 7 Million for the only time in the BLS tables. This Jan figure (Want A Job) didn't return to within 0.1% of 2008 level until 2018, after Trump's first year.
The figure of Unemployed plus Want A Job is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

The Want A Job count maxxed out in Aug 2012, just as Obama was proclaiming that Unemployment Rates had dropped, which he needed to get below 8.0% by October, in order to win re-election.

Well, it looks like the current U6 right now is lower than every January of the past 24 years, since the creation of U-6, according to BLS figures.

From 2009 to 2017, the Civilian noninstitutional Population grew by 19.343 Million. With a nominal post-9/11 Labor Participation Rate of 66%, the Labor Force would have grown by 12.766 Million. But Obama's Deep State reported that the Labor Force only grew by 5.231 Million. Labor Force is defined as all Employed + all Unemployed. So Obama would have you believe that during his 8 years, 7.5 Million extra Employ-eligible population were NOT unemployed (nor employed).



And splitting the table into 2 smaller versions:

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-1AB
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
BLS currently defines the Want A Job category as not being part of the Labor Force.

So I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real.

I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.


Mo/Yr Unemp Pcnt WAJb Pcnt SubTtl Prcnt InvPT Pcnt Total Percnt
Jan08 08221 05.4% 4977 3.2% 13198 08.6% 5235 3.5% 18433 12.1%
Jan09 13009 08.5% 5866 3.8% 18875 12.3% 8675 5.7% 27550 18.0%
Jan10 16147 10.6% 6108 4.0% 22255 14.6% 9161 5.9% 31416 20.5%
Jan11 14937 09.8% 6643 4.3% 21580 14.1% 9027 6.0% 30607 20.1%
Jan12 13541 08.8% 6495 4.3% 20036 13.1% 8747 5.7% 28783 18.8%
Jan13 13181 08.5% 6781 4.4% 19962 12.9% 8506 5.5% 28468 18.4%
Jan14 10855 07.0% 6508 4.2% 17363 11.2% 7617 5.0% 24980 16.2%
Jan15 09498 06.1% 6467 4.1% 15965 10.2% 7125 4.6% 23090 14.8%
Jan16 08309 05.3% 6166 3.9% 14475 09.2% 6234 4.0% 20709 13.2%
Jan17 08149 05.1% 5934 3.8% 14083 08.9% 6127 3.8% 20210 12.7%
Jan18 07189 04.5% 5364 3.3% 12553 07.8% 5380 3.4% 17933 11.2%

Feb18 07091 04.4% 5152 3.2% 12243 07.6% 5241 3.2% 17484 10.8%
Mar18 06671 04.1% 4793 3.0% 11464 07.1% 4975 3.1% 16439 10.2%
Apr18 05932 03.7% 5010 3.1% 10942 06.8% 4631 2.9% 15573 09.7%
May18 05657 03.6% 5696 3.5% 11353 07.0% 4677 2.9% 16030 09.9%


Jul 12 13400 08.6% 6837 4.3% 20237 12.9% 8218 5.3% 28455 18.2%
Aug12 12696 08.2% 7631 4.9% 20327 13.1% 7723 5.0% 28050 18.1%
Sep12 11742 07.6% 6427 4.1% 18169 11.7% 8003 5.2% 26172 16.9%
Oct12 11741 07.5% 6142 4.0% 17883 11.5% 7768 5.0% 25651 16.5%
Nov12 11404 07.4% 6495 4.2% 17899 11.6% 7898 5.0% 25797 16.6%




Mo/Yr Unemp Pcnt WAJb Pcnt Total Percnt CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U-6%
Jan08 08221 05.4% 4977 3.2% 18433 12.1% 232616 152828 65.7 09.9
Jan09 13009 08.5% 5866 3.8% 27550 18.0% 234739 153445 65.4 15.4
Jan10 16147 10.6% 6108 4.0% 31416 20.5% 236832 152957 64.6 18.0
Jan11 14937 09.8% 6643 4.3% 30607 20.1% 238704 152536 63.9 17.3
Jan12 13541 08.8% 6495 4.3% 28783 18.8% 242269 153485 63.4 16.2
Jan13 13181 08.5% 6781 4.4% 28468 18.4% 244663 154794 63.3 15.4
Jan14 10855 07.0% 6508 4.2% 24980 16.2% 246915 154381 62.5 13.5
Jan15 09498 06.1% 6467 4.1% 23090 14.8% 249723 156050 62.5 12.0
Jan16 08309 05.3% 6166 3.9% 20709 13.2% 252397 157347 62.3 10.5
Jan17 08149 05.1% 5934 3.8% 20210 12.7% 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Jan18 07189 04.5% 5364 3.3% 17933 11.2% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9

Feb18 07091 04.4% 5152 3.2% 17484 10.8% 256934 161494 62.9 08.6
Mar18 06671 04.1% 4793 3.0% 16439 10.2% 257097 161548 62.8 08.1
Apr18 05932 03.7% 5010 3.1% 15573 09.7% 257272 161280 62.7 07.4
May18 05657 03.6% 5696 3.5% 11353 07.0% 257454 161765 62.8 07.3



Jul 12 13400 08.6% 6837 4.3% 28455 18.2% 243354 156526 64.3 15.2
Aug12 12696 08.2% 7631 4.9% 28050 18.1% 243566 155255 63.7 14.6
Sep12 11742 07.6% 6427 4.1% 26172 16.9% 243772 155075 63.6 14.2
Oct12 11741 07.5% 6142 4.0% 25651 16.5% 243983 155779 63.8 13.9
Nov12 11404 07.4% 6495 4.2% 25797 16.6% 244174 154953 63.5 13.9
Quote:

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Want A Job category, which Obamanomics managed to increase to over 7 Million for the only time in the BLS tables. This Jan figure (Want A Job) didn't return to within 0.1% of 2008 level until 2018, after Trump's first year.
The figure of Unemployed plus Want A Job is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

The Want A Job count maxxed out in Aug 2012, just as Obama was proclaiming that Unemployment Rates had dropped, which he needed to get below 8.0% by October, in order to win re-election.



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Friday, July 6, 2018 8:54 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Updating with today's Jobs Report to this Table of Data, which seems to best show the components of U6:

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-2

Note: this year the Marginally Attached data is in Table A-16 of the report.
Quote:

I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real.

The BLS uses both Seasonally Adjusted figures and Unadjusted figures, and interchanges them without clearly identifying so. For example, the current Rate of 4.1% (for 4 months straight) is SeasAdj, and the real Rate is 4.5% for Jan 2018. I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.

Some numbers may have a 0 placed as first digit, to maintain column form in this format.

The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed. The 2nd column is the Rate.
The 3rd column is what is called Marginally Attached to the Labor Force, which is included in the Want A Job Now category but NOT included in the Labor Force category and therefore excluded from the reported Unemployment category. The 5th column is the sum of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached - which more accurately represents the Actual Unemployed. The 6th column is the Rate for column 5 figure.
The 7th column is the Involuntary Part-Time workers, who are Not Employed Full Time due to poor Economy, and want, are able to work FT. The 8th column is the Rate for column 7. The 9th column is the sum of the 5th column plus 7th column. 10th column is the Rate for column 9 figure. The Rates in columns 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 have the denominator of Labor Force.
The 11th column is the Civilian Population. 12th column is Labor Force, 13th column is Participation Rate. 14th column is the published U-6 figure.


Figures in thousands.

MoYr Unem Pct MrgAt Pct SbTtl Pcnt InvPT Pct Total Prcnt CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6%
Ja93 09911 07.9 2120 1.6 11612 09.0 6181 4.9 16575 12.8 192644 126034 65.4
Ja94 09492 07.3 2120 1.6 11612 09.0 4963 3.8 16575 12.8 195953 129393 66.0
Ja95 08101 06.2 1783 1.4 09884 07.6 4620 3.5 14504 11.1 197753 130698 66.1
Ja96 08270 06.3 1737 1.3 10007 07.6 4103 3.1 14110 10.7 199634 131396 65.8 10.8
Ja97 07933 05.9 1615 1.2 09548 07.1 4338 3.2 13886 10.3 202285 134317 66.4 10.4
Ja98 07069 05.2 1479 1.1 08548 06.3 4090 3.0 12638 09.3 204238 135951 66.6 09.3
Ja99 06604 04.8 1358 1.0 07962 05.8 3645 2.6 11607 08.4 206719 137943 66.7 08.5
Ja00 06316 04.5 1197 0.9 07513 05.4 3355 2.4 10868 07.8 208782 139621 66.9 07.8
Ja01 06647 04.7 1290 0.9 07937 05.6 3559 2.5 11496 08.2 210889 141049 66.9 08.1
Ja02 08935 06.3 1509 1.1 10444 07.4 4249 3.0 14693 10.4 213089 141074 66.2 10.5

Ja02 09051 06.3 1532 1.1 10583 07.4 4453 3.1 15036 10.5 216506 143228 66.2 10.5
Ja03 09395 06.5 1598 1.1 10993 07.6 5003 3.4 15996 11.0 219897 145301 66.1 11.0
Ja04 09144 06.3 1670 1.1 10814 07.4 5152 3.5 15966 10.9 222161 146068 65.7 10.9
Ja05 08444 05.7 1804 1.2 10248 07.0 4793 3.3 15041 10.2 224837 147125 65.4 10.2
Ja06 07608 05.1 1644 1.1 09252 06.2 4513 3.0 13765 09.2 227553 149090 65.5 09.2
Ja07 07649 05.0 1577 1.0 09226 06.1 4620 3.0 13846 09.1 230650 151924 65.9 09.1
Ja08 08221 05.4 1729 1.1 09950 06.5 5235 3.4 15185 09.9 232616 152828 65.7 09.9
Ja09 13009 08.5 2130 1.4 15139 09.9 8675 5.6 23814 15.5 234739 153445 65.4 15.4
Ja10 16147 10.6 2539 1.6 18686 12.2 9161 6.0 27847 18.2 236832 152957 64.6 18.0
Ja11 14937 09.8 2800 1.8 17737 11.6 9027 5.9 26764 17.5 238704 152536 63.9 17.3
Ja12 13541 08.8 2809 1.9 16350 10.7 8747 5.7 25097 16.4 242269 153485 63.4 16.2
Ja13 13181 08.5 2443 1.6 15624 10.1 8506 5.5 24130 15.6 244663 154794 63.3 15.4
Ja14 10855 07.0 2592 1.7 13447 08.7 7617 4.9 21064 13.6 246915 154381 62.5 13.5
Ja15 09498 06.1 2234 1.4 11732 07.5 7125 4.6 18857 12.1 249723 156050 62.5 12.0
Ja16 08309 05.3 2089 1.3 10398 06.6 6234 4.0 16632 10.6 252397 157347 62.3 10.5
Ja17 08149 05.1 1752 1.1 09901 06.2 6127 3.9 16028 10.1 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Ja18 07189 04.5 1653 1.0 08842 05.5 5380 3.4 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9

Fb18 07091 04.4 1602 1.0 08693 05.4 5241 3.2 13934 08.6 256934 161494 62.9 08.6
Mr18 06671 04.1 1454 0.9 08125 05.0 4975 3.1 13100 08.1 257097 161548 62.8 08.1
Ap18 05932 03.7 1362 0.8 07294 04.5 4631 2.9 11925 07.4 257272 161280 62.7 07.4
My18 05657 03.6 1455 0.9 07112 04.4 4677 2.9 11789 07.3 257454 161765 62.8 07.3
Jn18 06812 04.2 1437 0.9 08249 05.1 4974 3.0 13223 08.1 257642 163277 63.4 08.1


J l 12 13400 08.6 2529 1.6 15929 10.2 8218 5.2 24147 15.4 243354 156526 64.3
Au12 12696 08.2 2561 1.6 15257 09.8 7723 5.0 22980 14.8 243566 155255 63.7
Se12 11742 07.6 2517 1.6 14259 09.2 8003 5.2 22262 14.4 243772 155075 63.6
Oc12 11741 07.5 2433 1.6 14174 09.1 7768 5.0 21942 14.1 243983 155779 63.8
Nv12 11404 07.4 2505 1.6 13909 09.0 7898 5.1 21807 14.1 244174 154953 63.5


General color-coding guidelines:
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table.
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession.
This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count.

Quote:

Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935.
The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression.

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017.

The figure of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure. It does not return to Jan 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. For April 2018 this figure is lower than any January figure since it was created in 1994.
With Obamanomics pushing more into the Involuntary Part-Time group, this also got bloated to disguise the horrible Unemployment problems, and this Rate did not return to 2008 level until 2018.

The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.
By 2016 the Marginally Attached plus Involuntary Part-Time counts were more than the Fake Unemployment count.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

Some have mentioned concern regard a tight Labor Market, too many vacant jobs without enough bodies to fill them.
But we should remember to consider the Labor Participation Rate. At the turn of the century it was around 67%, and in the later Bush43 period it was 66%.
Just because Obamanomics was able to drive it down to the 62% range does not mean that is the new norm. That 5% loss of Participation Rate amounts to about 13 Million potential employees.
Sure, they may not need to live in their mom's basement anymore if they become employed, but life can just be rough.


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Friday, July 6, 2018 8:56 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



This Table of Data, which includes Not Fully Employed Rate.

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-3

I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow.

The BLS uses both Seasonally Adjusted figures and Unadjusted figures, and interchanges them without clearly identifying so. I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.

Some numbers may have a 0 placed as first digit, to maintain column form in this format.

The 1st column of numbers is the Unemployed.
The 2nd column is what is called Marginally Attached to the Labor Force, which is included in the Want A Job Now category but NOT included in the Labor Force category and therefore excluded from the reported Unemployment category.
The 3rd column is the Involuntary Part-Time workers, who are Not Employed Full Time due to poor Economy, and want, are able to work FT. The 4th column of numbers is the sum of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd columns. 5th column is the Rate for column 4 figure, divided by Labor Force.

The 6th column of numbers is the Subtotal of columns 1 and 3, Unemployed plus Involuntary Part-Time.
The 7th column is Labor Force minus column 6. This is also Employed minus column 3 Involuntary Part-Time. This is not a figure identified by BLS, so I will call it Actually Fully Employed. This is Employed Full-time plus Voluntary Part-Time.

Not listed, but Civilian noninstitutional Population minus Actually Fully Employed is also a figure avoided by BLS, and I will call it Not Fully Employed, which is Unemployed plus Involuntary Part-Time plus Marginally Attached plus Not In Labor Force. The 8th column is Not Fully Employed Rate, which is divided by Civilian noninstitutional Population.

The 9th column is the Civilian Population. 10th column is Labor Force, 11th column is Participation Rate. 12th column is the published U-6 figure.

Figures in thousands.

Mo/Yr Unem MrgAt InvPT Total Prcnt SubTtl AcEmpl NtEm CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6%
Jan94 09492 2120 4963 16575 12.8% 14455 114938 41.3% 195953 129393 66.0
Jan95 08101 1783 4620 14504 11.1% 12721 117923 40.4% 197753 130698 66.1
Jan96 08270 1737 4103 14110 10.7% 12373 119023 40.4% 199634 131396 65.8 10.8
Jan97 07933 1615 4338 13886 10.3% 12271 122046 39.7% 202285 134317 66.4 10.4
Jan98 07069 1479 4090 12638 09.3% 11159 124798 38.9% 204238 135951 66.6 09.3
Jan99 06604 1358 3645 11607 08.4% 10249 127694 38.2% 206719 137943 66.7 08.5
Jan00 06316 1197 3355 10868 07.8% 09671 129950 37.8% 208782 139621 66.9 07.8
Jan01 06647 1290 3559 11496 08.2% 10206 130843 38.0% 210889 141049 66.9 08.1
Jan02 08935 1509 4249 14693 10.4% 13184 127890 40.0% 213089 141074 66.2 10.5

Jan02 09051 1532 4453 15036 10.5% 13504 129724 40.1% 216506 143228 66.2 10.5
Jan03 09395 1598 5003 15996 11.0% 14398 130903 40.5% 219897 145301 66.1 11.0
Jan04 09144 1670 5152 15966 10.9% 14296 131772 40.7% 222161 146068 65.7 10.9
Jan05 08444 1804 4793 15041 10.2% 13237 133888 40.5% 224837 147125 65.4 10.2
Jan06 07608 1644 4513 13765 09.2% 12122 136978 39.8% 227553 149090 65.5 09.2
Jan07 07649 1577 4620 13846 09.1% 12269 139655 39.5% 230650 151924 65.9 09.1
Jan08 08221 1729 5235 15185 09.9% 13456 139372 40.1% 232616 152828 65.7 09.9
Jan09 13009 2130 8675 23814 15.5% 21684 131761 43.9% 234739 153445 65.4 15.4
Jan10 16147 2539 9161 27847 18.2% 25308 127649 46.1% 236832 152957 64.6 18.0
Jan11 14937 2800 9027 26764 17.5% 23964 128572 46.1% 238704 152536 63.9 17.3
Jan12 13541 2809 8747 25097 16.4% 22288 131197 45.8% 242269 153485 63.4 16.2
Jan13 13181 2443 8506 24130 15.6% 21687 133107 45.6% 244663 154794 63.3 15.4
Jan14 10855 2592 7617 21064 13.6% 18472 135909 45.0% 246915 154381 62.5 13.5
Jan15 09498 2234 7125 18857 12.1% 16623 139427 44.2% 249723 156050 62.5 12.0
Jan16 08309 2089 6234 16632 10.6% 14543 142804 43.4% 252397 157347 62.3 10.5
Jan17 08149 1752 6127 16028 10.1% 14276 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Jan18 07189 1653 5380 14222 08.9% 12569 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9


Jan17 08149 1752 6127 16028 10.1% 14276 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Feb17 07887 1723 5700 14310 09.0% 13587 145895 42.6% 254246 159482 62.7 09.5
Mar17 07289 1595 5498 14381 09.0% 12787 147125 42.2% 254414 159912 62.9 08.9
Apr17 06555 1534 4990 13079 08.2% 11545 148272 41.8% 254588 159817 62.8 08.1
My 17 06572 1475 4994 13041 08.2% 11566 148413 41.7% 254767 159979 62.8 08.1
Jun17 07250 1582 5555 14387 08.9% 12805 148532 41.7% 254957 161337 63.3 08.9
Jul 17 07441 1629 5430 14500 09.0% 12871 149040 41.6% 255151 161911 63.5 08.9
Aug17 07287 1548 5130 13965 08.7% 12417 148446 41.9% 255357 160863 63.0 08.6
Sep17 06556 1569 4740 12865 08.0% 11296 149753 41.4% 255562 161049 63.0 08.0
Oct17 06242 1535 4496 12273 07.6% 10738 149727 41.5% 255766 160465 62.7 07.6
Nov17 06286 1481 4554 12321 07.7% 10840 149626 41.5% 255949 160466 62.7 07.7
Dec17 06278 1623 4992 12893 08.1% 11270 148610 42.0% 256109 159880 62.4 08.0

Jan18 07189 1653 5380 14222 08.9% 12569 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9
Feb18 07091 1602 5241 13934 08.6% 12332 149162 41.9% 256934 161494 62.9 08.6
Mar18 06671 1454 4975 13100 08.1% 11646 149902 41.7% 257097 161548 62.8 08.1
Apr18 05932 1362 4631 11925 07.4% 10563 150717 41.4% 257272 161280 62.7 07.4
My 18 05657 1455 4677 11789 07.3% 10334 151431 41.2% 257454 161765 62.8 07.3
Jun18 06812 1437 4974 13223 08.1% 11786 151491 41.2% 257642 163277 63.4 08.1


Jul 12 13400 2529 8218 24147 15.4% 21618 134908 44.1% 243354 156526 64.3
Aug12 12696 2561 7723 22980 14.8% 20419 134836 44.6% 243566 155255 63.7
Sep12 11742 2517 8003 22262 14.4% 19745 135330 44.5% 243772 155075 63.6
Oct12 11741 2433 7768 21942 14.1% 19509 136270 44.1% 243983 155779 63.8
Nov12 11404 2505 7898 21807 14.1% 19302 135651 44.4% 244174 154953 63.5


General color-coding guidelines:
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table.
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession.
This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count.

Quote:

Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935.
The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression.

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017.
With Obamanomics pushing more into the Involuntary Part-Time group, this also got bloated to disguise the horrible Unemployment problems, and this Rate did not return to 2008 level until 2018.

The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.


The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

Some have mentioned concern regard a tight Labor Market, too many vacant jobs without enough bodies to fill them.
But we should remember to consider the Labor Participation Rate. At the turn of the century it was around 67%, and in the later Bush43 period it was 66%.
Just because Obamanomics was able to drive it down to the 62% range does not mean that is the new norm. That 5% loss of Participation Rate amounts to about 13 Million potential employees.
Sure, they may not need to live in their mom's basement anymore if they become employed, but life can just be rough.


In the previous Tables of data, we can see that as far as common Indicators are concerned, all figures, totals, and Subtotals are at or near all-time lows (since the creation of U-6 in 1994) under Trump. But the categories are still manipulated, and potentially misrepresented.
So to help understand how much of the population is actually not allowed to be Employed Full-time when they want to, I have included in the above Table the 8th column of numbers, the Not Fully Employed Rate, which is a percentage of the Civilian noninstitutional Population. Because of the much larger denominator this figure will not have such drastic swings as other figures reported. This can help demonstrate how many are still able to fill a "tight Labor Market" which some are worried about. It can also provide an unvarnished picture of how many are not working, and compare to other periods since U-6 was created. These 2 figures help show how the Labor Force Participation Rate and U-6 realistically work together.

Even with this new figure, it is the lowest since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession, which began October 2007 at the start of FY2008.

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Friday, July 6, 2018 8:58 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



This Table of Data, where I included the Margin of Gain for Labor Force, and Margin of Gain for Actually Fully Employed:

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-4

I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow.

The BLS uses both Seasonally Adjusted figures and Unadjusted figures, and interchanges them without clearly identifying so. I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.

Some numbers may have a 0 placed as first digit, to maintain column form in this format.

The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed.
The 2nd column is what is called Marginally Attached to the Labor Force, which is included in the Want A Job Now category but NOT included in the Labor Force category and therefore excluded from the reported Unemployment category.
The 3rd column is the Involuntary Part-Time workers, who are Not Employed Full Time due to poor Economy, and want, are able to work FT.
The 4th column is the sum of the first 3 columns. 5th column is the Rate for column 4 figure, with Labor Force as the denominator.
The 6th column of numbers is the Subtotal of columns 1 and 3, Unemployed plus Involuntary Part-Time.
The 7th column is Labor Force minus column 6. This is also Employed minus column 3 Involuntary Part-Time. This is not a figure identified by BLS, so I will call it Actually Fully Employed. This is Employed Full-time plus Voluntary Part-Time.
Not listed, but Civilian noninstitutional Population minus Actually Fully Employed is also a figure avoided by BLS, and I will call it Not Fully Employed, which is Unemployed plus Involuntary Part-Time plus Marginally Attached plus Not In Labor Force. The 8th column is Not Fully Employed Rate, which is divided by Civilian noninstitutional Population.
The 9th column is the Civilian Population. 10th column is Labor Force, 11th column is Participation Rate.
The 12th column is Marginal Labor Force Rate. This percent is the gain of the Labor Force divided by the gain of the Civilian noninstitutional Population.
The 13th column is the Marginal Actual Fully Employed Rate. This percent is the gain in the Actual Fully Employed divided by the gain of the Civilian noninstitutional Population.

Figures in thousands.

MoYr Unem MrgAt InvPT Total Prct SubTtl AcEmpl NtEm CivPop LbrForc Prtc% MgLF MgAE
Ja94 09492 2120 4963 16575 12.8 14455 114938 41.3% 195953 129393 66.0 +101.5
Ja95 08101 1783 4620 14504 11.1 12721 117923 40.4% 197753 130698 66.1 +072.5 +165.8
Ja96 08270 1737 4103 14110 10.7 12373 119023 40.4% 199634 131396 65.8 +037.1 +058.5
Ja97 07933 1615 4338 13886 10.3 12271 122046 39.7% 202285 134317 66.4 +110.2 +114.1
Ja98 07069 1479 4090 12638 09.3 11159 124798 38.9% 204238 135951 66.6 +083.7 +140.9
Ja99 06604 1358 3645 11607 08.4 10249 127694 38.2% 206719 137943 66.7 +080.3 +116.7
Ja00 06316 1197 3355 10868 07.8 09671 129950 37.8% 208782 139621 66.9 +081.3 +109.4
Ja01 06647 1290 3559 11496 08.2 10206 130843 38.0% 210889 141049 66.9 +067.8 +042.4
Ja02 08935 1509 4249 14693 10.4 13184 127890 40.0% 213089 141074 66.2 +001.1 --134.2

Ja02 09051 1532 4453 15036 10.5 13504 129724 40.1% 216506 143228 66.2 +038.8 --019.9
Ja03 09395 1598 5003 15996 11.0 14398 130903 40.5% 219897 145301 66.1 +061.1 +034.8
Ja04 09144 1670 5152 15966 10.9 14296 131772 40.7% 222161 146068 65.7 +033.9 +038.4
Ja05 08444 1804 4793 15041 10.2 13237 133888 40.5% 224837 147125 65.4 +039.5 +079.1
Ja06 07608 1644 4513 13765 09.2 12122 136978 39.8% 227553 149090 65.5 +072.3 +113.8
Ja07 07649 1577 4620 13846 09.1 12269 139655 39.5% 230650 151924 65.9 +091.5 +086.4
Ja08 08221 1729 5235 15185 09.9 13456 139372 40.1% 232616 152828 65.7 +046.0 --014.4
Ja09 13009 2130 8675 23814 15.5 21684 131761 43.9% 234739 153445 65.4 +029.1 --358.5
Ja10 16147 2539 9161 27847 18.2 25308 127649 46.1% 236832 152957 64.6 --023.3 --196.5
Ja11 14937 2800 9027 26764 17.5 23964 128572 46.1% 238704 152536 63.9 --022.5 +049.3
Ja12 13541 2809 8747 25097 16.4 22288 131197 45.8% 242269 153485 63.4 +026.6 +073.6
Ja13 13181 2443 8506 24130 15.6 21687 133107 45.6% 244663 154794 63.3 +054.7 +079.8
Ja14 10855 2592 7617 21064 13.6 18472 135909 45.0% 246915 154381 62.5 --018.3 +124.4
Ja15 09498 2234 7125 18857 12.1 16623 139427 44.2% 249723 156050 62.5 +059.4 +125.3
Ja16 08309 2089 6234 16632 10.6 14543 142804 43.4% 252397 157347 62.3 +055.8 +145.6
Ja17 08149 1752 6127 16028 10.1 14276 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5 +078.9 +094.7
Ja18 07189 1653 5380 14222 08.9 12569 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3 +050.4 +113.7

Fb18 07091 1602 5241 13934 08.6 12332 149162 41.9% 256934 161494 62.9 +946.1 1100.0
Mr18 06671 1454 4975 13100 08.1 11646 149902 41.7% 257097 161548 62.8 +033.1 +454.0
Ap18 05932 1362 4631 11925 07.4 10563 150717 41.4% 257272 161280 62.7 --153.1 +456.7
My18 05657 1455 4677 11789 07.3 10334 151431 41.2% 257454 161765 62.8 +266.5 +243.4
Jn18 06812 1437 4974 13223 08.1 11786 151491 41.2% 257642 163277 63.4 +804.3 +031.9


Jl 12 13400 2529 8218 24147 15.4 21618 134908 44.1% 243354 156526 64.3
Ag12 12696 2561 7723 22980 14.8 20419 134836 44.6% 243566 155255 63.7 --598.6 --034.0
Se12 11742 2517 8003 22262 14.4 19745 135330 44.5% 243772 155075 63.6 --087.4 +239.8
Oc12 11741 2433 7768 21942 14.1 19509 136270 44.1% 243983 155779 63.8 +333.6 +445.5
No12 11404 2505 7898 21807 14.1 19302 135651 44.4% 244174 154953 63.5 --432.5 --324.1


General color-coding guidelines:
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table.
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession.
This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count.
This color highlights Actually Employed figures which have not recovered from a prior high count.
This color highlights growth of Civilian noninstitutional Population over 3 Million, 18 years after relevant births.


Quote:

Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935.
The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression.

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017.
With Obamanomics pushing more into the Involuntary Part-Time group, this also got bloated to disguise the horrible Unemployment problems, and this Rate did not return to 2008 level until 2018.

The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

Some have mentioned concern regard a tight Labor Market, too many vacant jobs without enough bodies to fill them.
But we should remember to consider the Labor Participation Rate. At the turn of the century it was around 67%, and in the later Bush43 period it was 66%.
Just because Obamanomics was able to drive it down to the 62% range does not mean that is the new norm. That 5% loss of Participation Rate amounts to about 13 Million potential employees.
Sure, they may not need to live in their mom's basement anymore if they become employed, but life can just be rough.



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Sunday, July 8, 2018 2:14 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


On Friday after the report came out, I was unable to summarize some observations, before I fell asleep.

In the past month, the Population figure increased 188,000. The Labor Force count increased 1,512,000. The number of fully employed increased by 60,000. And with all of those suddenly jumping into the Labor Force, the U-6 category count increased 1,434,000.

Since January, the Population increased 862,000. The Labor Force increased 3,240,000. The fully employed increased 4,023,000. The U-6 count fell by 999,000.

Since a year ago June, the Population increased 2,685,000. The Labor Force increased 1,940,000. The fully employed increased by 2,959,000. The U-6 count fell by 1,164,000.


The Labor Force count is the highest it has ever been.
And the actual Not Fully Employed percentage remains the lowest it has been since 2008.
The Marginally Attached remains the 2nd lowest percentage since the category was created.

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Thursday, July 12, 2018 9:46 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Updating with today's report data:

Jobless Claims.

Apparently the 209,000 reported on 26 April 2018 was the lowest since 1969. And the 210,000 on 1 March was too.

Other weeks:

230,000 1 February
221,000 8 February
229,000 15 February
222,000 22 February
210,000 1 March - 4wk avg 221
230,000 8 March
226,000 15 March
227,000 22 March
215,000 29 March - 4wk avg 225
242,000 5 April
233,000 12 April
233,000 19 April
209,000 26 April - Apr avg 229
211,000 3 May
211,000 10 May
223,000 17 May
234,000 24 May - May avg 220
221,000 31 May (for week ending 26 May) - May avg 220
222,000 7 June (for week ending 2 June)
218,000 14 June
218,000 21 June
227,000 28 June - June avg 221
231,000 5 July
214,000 12 July - 2 week avg 222

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Thursday, July 19, 2018 9:13 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Updating with today's report data:

Jobless Claims.

Apparently the 209,000 reported on 26 April 2018 was the lowest since 1969. And the 210,000 on 1 March was too.

Other weeks:

230,000 1 February
221,000 8 February
229,000 15 February
222,000 22 February
210,000 1 March - 4wk avg 221
230,000 8 March
226,000 15 March
227,000 22 March
215,000 29 March - 4wk avg 225
242,000 5 April
233,000 12 April
233,000 19 April
209,000 26 April - Apr avg 229
211,000 3 May
211,000 10 May
223,000 17 May
234,000 24 May - May avg 220
221,000 31 May (for week ending 26 May) - May avg 220
222,000 7 June (for week ending 2 June)
218,000 14 June
218,000 21 June
227,000 28 June - June avg 221
231,000 5 July
214,000 12 July
207,000 19 July - 3 week avg 217

207,000 is the lowest number since 1969. And 217,000 is the lowest average this year, and for decades.

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Thursday, July 26, 2018 4:29 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Updating with today's report data:

Jobless Claims.

Apparently the 209,000 reported on 26 April 2018 was the lowest since 1969. And the 210,000 on 1 March was too.

Other weeks:

230,000 1 February
221,000 8 February
229,000 15 February
222,000 22 February
210,000 1 March - 4wk avg 221
230,000 8 March
226,000 15 March
227,000 22 March
215,000 29 March - 4wk avg 225
242,000 5 April
233,000 12 April
233,000 19 April
209,000 26 April - Apr avg 229
211,000 3 May
211,000 10 May
223,000 17 May
234,000 24 May - May avg 220
221,000 31 May (for week ending 26 May) - May avg 220
222,000 7 June (for week ending 2 June)
218,000 14 June
218,000 21 June
227,000 28 June - June avg 221
231,000 5 July
214,000 12 July
207,000 19 July
217,000 26 July - July avg 217

207,000 is the lowest number since 1969. And 217,000 is the lowest average this year, and for decades.

Today's headline was "It climbed higher"

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Thursday, July 26, 2018 7:20 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Until you listen to this podcast, this thread is being ignored.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, July 27, 2018 6:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Until you listen to this podcast, this thread is being ignored.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

Transcript?

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Friday, July 27, 2018 10:04 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


I couldn't find one for that ep yet. Any that have been made were fan made.

You can get the mp3 on the first page here: https://fluiddata.com/search?channel_id=9853

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, August 2, 2018 8:48 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Updating with today's report data:

Jobless Claims.

Apparently the 209,000 reported on 26 April 2018 was the lowest since 1969. And the 210,000 on 1 March was too.

Other weeks:

230,000 1 February
221,000 8 February
229,000 15 February
222,000 22 February
210,000 1 March - 4wk avg 221
230,000 8 March
226,000 15 March
227,000 22 March
215,000 29 March - 4wk avg 225
242,000 5 April
233,000 12 April
233,000 19 April
209,000 26 April - Apr avg 229
211,000 3 May
211,000 10 May
223,000 17 May
234,000 24 May - May avg 220
221,000 31 May (for week ending 26 May) - May avg 220
222,000 7 June (for week ending 2 June)
218,000 14 June
218,000 21 June
227,000 28 June - June avg 221
231,000 5 July
214,000 12 July
207,000 19 July
217,000 26 July - July avg 217
218,000 2 August

207,000 is the lowest number since 1969. And 217,000 is the lowest average this year, and for decades.

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Friday, August 3, 2018 10:01 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Updating with today's Jobs Report data:

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-1

Jan 2002 is listed twice. First with original report data from February 2002. Second with revised data from new Census data, published in February 2003.

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
BLS currently defines the Want A Job category as not being part of the Labor Force.

So I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real.

I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.


Mo/Yr Unemp Pcnt WAJb Pcnt SubTtl Prcnt InvPT Pcnt Total Percnt CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U-6%
Jan98 07069 05.2% 5026 3.7% 12095 08.9% 4090 3.0% 16185 11.9% 204238 135951 66.6 09.3
Jan99 06604 04.8% 4800 3.5% 11404 08.3% 3645 2.6% 15049 10.9% 206719 137943 66.7 08.5
Jan00 06316 04.5% 4354 3.1% 10670 07.6% 3355 2.4% 14025 10.0% 208782 139621 66.9 07.8
Jan01 06647 04.7% 4474 3.2% 11121 07.9% 3559 2.5% 14680 10.4% 210889 141049 66.9 08.1
Jan02 08935 06.3% 4872 3.5% 13807 09.8% 4249 3.0% 18056 12.8% 213089 141074 66.2 10.5

Jan02 09051 06.3% 4938 3.4% 13989 09.8% 4453 3.1% 18442 12.9% 216506 143228 66.2 10.5
Jan03 09395 06.5% 4779 3.3% 14174 09.8% 5003 3.4% 19177 13.2% 219897 145301 66.1 11.0
Jan04 09144 06.3% 4913 3.4% 14057 09.6% 5152 3.5% 19209 13.2% 222161 146068 65.7 10.9
Jan05 08444 05.7% 5136 3.5% 13580 09.2% 4793 3.3% 18373 12.5% 224837 147125 65.4 10.2
Jan06 07608 05.1% 5095 3.4% 12703 08.5% 4513 3.0% 17216 11.5% 227553 149090 65.5 09.2
Jan07 07649 05.0% 4633 3.0% 12282 08.1% 4620 3.0% 16902 11.1% 230650 151924 65.9 09.1
Jan08 08221 05.4% 4977 3.2% 13198 08.6% 5235 3.5% 18433 12.1% 232616 152828 65.7 09.9
Jan09 13009 08.5% 5866 3.8% 18875 12.3% 8675 5.7% 27550 18.0% 234739 153445 65.4 15.4
Jan10 16147 10.6% 6108 4.0% 22255 14.6% 9161 5.9% 31416 20.5% 236832 152957 64.6 18.0
Jan11 14937 09.8% 6643 4.3% 21580 14.1% 9027 6.0% 30607 20.1% 238704 152536 63.9 17.3
Jan12 13541 08.8% 6495 4.3% 20036 13.1% 8747 5.7% 28783 18.8% 242269 153485 63.4 16.2
Jan13 13181 08.5% 6781 4.4% 19962 12.9% 8506 5.5% 28468 18.4% 244663 154794 63.3 15.4
Jan14 10855 07.0% 6508 4.2% 17363 11.2% 7617 5.0% 24980 16.2% 246915 154381 62.5 13.5
Jan15 09498 06.1% 6467 4.1% 15965 10.2% 7125 4.6% 23090 14.8% 249723 156050 62.5 12.0
Jan16 08309 05.3% 6166 3.9% 14475 09.2% 6234 4.0% 20709 13.2% 252397 157347 62.3 10.5
Jan17 08149 05.1% 5934 3.8% 14083 08.9% 6127 3.8% 20210 12.7% 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Jan18 07189 04.5% 5364 3.3% 12553 07.8% 5380 3.4% 17933 11.2% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9

Feb18 07091 04.4% 5152 3.2% 12243 07.6% 5241 3.2% 17484 10.8% 256934 161494 62.9 08.6
Mar18 06671 04.1% 4793 3.0% 11464 07.1% 4975 3.1% 16439 10.2% 257097 161548 62.8 08.1
Aprl18 05932 03.7% 5010 3.1% 10942 06.8% 4631 2.9% 15573 09.7% 257272 161280 62.7 07.4
May18 05657 03.6% 5696 3.5% 11353 07.0% 4677 2.9% 16030 09.9% 257454 161765 62.8 07.3
Jun18 06812 04.2% 5654 3.5% 12466 07.6% 4974 3.0% 17440 10.7% 257642 163277 63.4 08.1
Jul 18 06730 04.1% 5483 3.3% 12213 07.5% 4701 2.9% 16914 10.3% 257843 163734 63.5 07.9


Jul 12 13400 08.6% 6837 4.3% 20237 12.9% 8218 5.3% 28455 18.2% 243354 156526 64.3 15.2
Aug12 12696 08.2% 7631 4.9% 20327 13.1% 7723 5.0% 28050 18.1% 243566 155255 63.7 14.6
Sep12 11742 07.6% 6427 4.1% 18169 11.7% 8003 5.2% 26172 16.9% 243772 155075 63.6 14.2
Oct12 11741 07.5% 6142 4.0% 17883 11.5% 7768 5.0% 25651 16.5% 243983 155779 63.8 13.9
Nov12 11404 07.4% 6495 4.2% 17899 11.6% 7898 5.0% 25797 16.6% 244174 154953 63.5 13.9


General color-coding guidelines:
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table.
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession.
This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count.


Quote:

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Want A Job category, which Obamanomics managed to increase to over 7 Million for the only time in the BLS tables. This Jan figure (Want A Job) didn't return to within 0.1% of 2008 level until 2018, after Trump's first year.
The figure of Unemployed plus Want A Job is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

The Want A Job count maxxed out in Aug 2012, just as Obama was proclaiming that Unemployment Rates had dropped, which he needed to get below 8.0% by October, in order to win re-election.

Well, it looks like the current U6 right now is lower than every January of the past 24 years, since the creation of U-6, according to BLS figures.

From 2009 to 2017, the Civilian noninstitutional Population grew by 19.343 Million. With a nominal post-9/11 Labor Participation Rate of 66%, the Labor Force would have grown by 12.766 Million. But Obama's Deep State reported that the Labor Force only grew by 5.231 Million. Labor Force is defined as all Employed + all Unemployed. So Obama would have you believe that during his 8 years, 7.5 Million extra Employ-eligible population were NOT unemployed (nor employed).



And splitting the table into 2 smaller versions:

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-1AB
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
BLS currently defines the Want A Job category as not being part of the Labor Force.

So I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real.

I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.


Mo/Yr Unemp Pcnt WAJb Pcnt SubTtl Prcnt InvPT Pcnt Total Percnt
Jan08 08221 05.4% 4977 3.2% 13198 08.6% 5235 3.5% 18433 12.1%
Jan09 13009 08.5% 5866 3.8% 18875 12.3% 8675 5.7% 27550 18.0%
Jan10 16147 10.6% 6108 4.0% 22255 14.6% 9161 5.9% 31416 20.5%
Jan11 14937 09.8% 6643 4.3% 21580 14.1% 9027 6.0% 30607 20.1%
Jan12 13541 08.8% 6495 4.3% 20036 13.1% 8747 5.7% 28783 18.8%
Jan13 13181 08.5% 6781 4.4% 19962 12.9% 8506 5.5% 28468 18.4%
Jan14 10855 07.0% 6508 4.2% 17363 11.2% 7617 5.0% 24980 16.2%
Jan15 09498 06.1% 6467 4.1% 15965 10.2% 7125 4.6% 23090 14.8%
Jan16 08309 05.3% 6166 3.9% 14475 09.2% 6234 4.0% 20709 13.2%
Jan17 08149 05.1% 5934 3.8% 14083 08.9% 6127 3.8% 20210 12.7%
Jan18 07189 04.5% 5364 3.3% 12553 07.8% 5380 3.4% 17933 11.2%

Feb18 07091 04.4% 5152 3.2% 12243 07.6% 5241 3.2% 17484 10.8%
Mar18 06671 04.1% 4793 3.0% 11464 07.1% 4975 3.1% 16439 10.2%
Apr18 05932 03.7% 5010 3.1% 10942 06.8% 4631 2.9% 15573 09.7%
May18 05657 03.6% 5696 3.5% 11353 07.0% 4677 2.9% 16030 09.9%


Jul 12 13400 08.6% 6837 4.3% 20237 12.9% 8218 5.3% 28455 18.2%
Aug12 12696 08.2% 7631 4.9% 20327 13.1% 7723 5.0% 28050 18.1%
Sep12 11742 07.6% 6427 4.1% 18169 11.7% 8003 5.2% 26172 16.9%
Oct12 11741 07.5% 6142 4.0% 17883 11.5% 7768 5.0% 25651 16.5%
Nov12 11404 07.4% 6495 4.2% 17899 11.6% 7898 5.0% 25797 16.6%




Mo/Yr Unemp Pcnt WAJb Pcnt Total Percnt CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U-6%
Jan08 08221 05.4% 4977 3.2% 18433 12.1% 232616 152828 65.7 09.9
Jan09 13009 08.5% 5866 3.8% 27550 18.0% 234739 153445 65.4 15.4
Jan10 16147 10.6% 6108 4.0% 31416 20.5% 236832 152957 64.6 18.0
Jan11 14937 09.8% 6643 4.3% 30607 20.1% 238704 152536 63.9 17.3
Jan12 13541 08.8% 6495 4.3% 28783 18.8% 242269 153485 63.4 16.2
Jan13 13181 08.5% 6781 4.4% 28468 18.4% 244663 154794 63.3 15.4
Jan14 10855 07.0% 6508 4.2% 24980 16.2% 246915 154381 62.5 13.5
Jan15 09498 06.1% 6467 4.1% 23090 14.8% 249723 156050 62.5 12.0
Jan16 08309 05.3% 6166 3.9% 20709 13.2% 252397 157347 62.3 10.5
Jan17 08149 05.1% 5934 3.8% 20210 12.7% 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Jan18 07189 04.5% 5364 3.3% 17933 11.2% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9

Feb18 07091 04.4% 5152 3.2% 17484 10.8% 256934 161494 62.9 08.6
Mar18 06671 04.1% 4793 3.0% 16439 10.2% 257097 161548 62.8 08.1
Apr18 05932 03.7% 5010 3.1% 15573 09.7% 257272 161280 62.7 07.4
May18 05657 03.6% 5696 3.5% 11353 07.0% 257454 161765 62.8 07.3



Jul 12 13400 08.6% 6837 4.3% 28455 18.2% 243354 156526 64.3 15.2
Aug12 12696 08.2% 7631 4.9% 28050 18.1% 243566 155255 63.7 14.6
Sep12 11742 07.6% 6427 4.1% 26172 16.9% 243772 155075 63.6 14.2
Oct12 11741 07.5% 6142 4.0% 25651 16.5% 243983 155779 63.8 13.9
Nov12 11404 07.4% 6495 4.2% 25797 16.6% 244174 154953 63.5 13.9
Quote:

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Want A Job category, which Obamanomics managed to increase to over 7 Million for the only time in the BLS tables. This Jan figure (Want A Job) didn't return to within 0.1% of 2008 level until 2018, after Trump's first year.
The figure of Unemployed plus Want A Job is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

The Want A Job count maxxed out in Aug 2012, just as Obama was proclaiming that Unemployment Rates had dropped, which he needed to get below 8.0% by October, in order to win re-election.



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Friday, August 3, 2018 10:05 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Updating with today's Jobs Report to this Table of Data, which seems to best show the components of U6:

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-2

Note: this year the Marginally Attached data is in Table A-16 of the report.
Quote:

I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real.

The BLS uses both Seasonally Adjusted figures and Unadjusted figures, and interchanges them without clearly identifying so. For example, the current Rate of 4.1% (for 4 months straight) is SeasAdj, and the real Rate is 4.5% for Jan 2018. I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.

Some numbers may have a 0 placed as first digit, to maintain column form in this format.

The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed. The 2nd column is the Rate.
The 3rd column is what is called Marginally Attached to the Labor Force, which is included in the Want A Job Now category but NOT included in the Labor Force category and therefore excluded from the reported Unemployment category. The 5th column is the sum of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached - which more accurately represents the Actual Unemployed. The 6th column is the Rate for column 5 figure.
The 7th column is the Involuntary Part-Time workers, who are Not Employed Full Time due to poor Economy, and want, are able to work FT. The 8th column is the Rate for column 7. The 9th column is the sum of the 5th column plus 7th column. 10th column is the Rate for column 9 figure. The Rates in columns 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 have the denominator of Labor Force.
The 11th column is the Civilian Population. 12th column is Labor Force, 13th column is Participation Rate. 14th column is the published U-6 figure.


Figures in thousands.

MoYr Unem Pct MrgAt Pct SbTtl Pcnt InvPT Pct Total Prcnt CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6%
Ja93 09911 07.9 2120 1.6 11612 09.0 6181 4.9 16575 12.8 192644 126034 65.4
Ja94 09492 07.3 2120 1.6 11612 09.0 4963 3.8 16575 12.8 195953 129393 66.0
Ja95 08101 06.2 1783 1.4 09884 07.6 4620 3.5 14504 11.1 197753 130698 66.1
Ja96 08270 06.3 1737 1.3 10007 07.6 4103 3.1 14110 10.7 199634 131396 65.8 10.8
Ja97 07933 05.9 1615 1.2 09548 07.1 4338 3.2 13886 10.3 202285 134317 66.4 10.4
Ja98 07069 05.2 1479 1.1 08548 06.3 4090 3.0 12638 09.3 204238 135951 66.6 09.3
Ja99 06604 04.8 1358 1.0 07962 05.8 3645 2.6 11607 08.4 206719 137943 66.7 08.5
Ja00 06316 04.5 1197 0.9 07513 05.4 3355 2.4 10868 07.8 208782 139621 66.9 07.8
Ja01 06647 04.7 1290 0.9 07937 05.6 3559 2.5 11496 08.2 210889 141049 66.9 08.1
Ja02 08935 06.3 1509 1.1 10444 07.4 4249 3.0 14693 10.4 213089 141074 66.2 10.5

Ja02 09051 06.3 1532 1.1 10583 07.4 4453 3.1 15036 10.5 216506 143228 66.2 10.5
Ja03 09395 06.5 1598 1.1 10993 07.6 5003 3.4 15996 11.0 219897 145301 66.1 11.0
Ja04 09144 06.3 1670 1.1 10814 07.4 5152 3.5 15966 10.9 222161 146068 65.7 10.9
Ja05 08444 05.7 1804 1.2 10248 07.0 4793 3.3 15041 10.2 224837 147125 65.4 10.2
Ja06 07608 05.1 1644 1.1 09252 06.2 4513 3.0 13765 09.2 227553 149090 65.5 09.2
Ja07 07649 05.0 1577 1.0 09226 06.1 4620 3.0 13846 09.1 230650 151924 65.9 09.1
Ja08 08221 05.4 1729 1.1 09950 06.5 5235 3.4 15185 09.9 232616 152828 65.7 09.9
Ja09 13009 08.5 2130 1.4 15139 09.9 8675 5.6 23814 15.5 234739 153445 65.4 15.4
Ja10 16147 10.6 2539 1.6 18686 12.2 9161 6.0 27847 18.2 236832 152957 64.6 18.0
Ja11 14937 09.8 2800 1.8 17737 11.6 9027 5.9 26764 17.5 238704 152536 63.9 17.3
Ja12 13541 08.8 2809 1.9 16350 10.7 8747 5.7 25097 16.4 242269 153485 63.4 16.2
Ja13 13181 08.5 2443 1.6 15624 10.1 8506 5.5 24130 15.6 244663 154794 63.3 15.4
Ja14 10855 07.0 2592 1.7 13447 08.7 7617 4.9 21064 13.6 246915 154381 62.5 13.5
Ja15 09498 06.1 2234 1.4 11732 07.5 7125 4.6 18857 12.1 249723 156050 62.5 12.0
Ja16 08309 05.3 2089 1.3 10398 06.6 6234 4.0 16632 10.6 252397 157347 62.3 10.5
Ja17 08149 05.1 1752 1.1 09901 06.2 6127 3.9 16028 10.1 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Ja18 07189 04.5 1653 1.0 08842 05.5 5380 3.4 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9

Fb18 07091 04.4 1602 1.0 08693 05.4 5241 3.2 13934 08.6 256934 161494 62.9 08.6
Mr18 06671 04.1 1454 0.9 08125 05.0 4975 3.1 13100 08.1 257097 161548 62.8 08.1
Ap18 05932 03.7 1362 0.8 07294 04.5 4631 2.9 11925 07.4 257272 161280 62.7 07.4
My18 05657 03.6 1455 0.9 07112 04.4 4677 2.9 11789 07.3 257454 161765 62.8 07.3
Jn18 06812 04.2 1437 0.9 08249 05.1 4974 3.0 13223 08.1 257642 163277 63.4 08.1
J l 18 06730 04.1 1498 0.9 08228 05.0 4701 2.9 12929 07.9 257843 163734 63.5 07.9


J l 12 13400 08.6 2529 1.6 15929 10.2 8218 5.2 24147 15.4 243354 156526 64.3
Au12 12696 08.2 2561 1.6 15257 09.8 7723 5.0 22980 14.8 243566 155255 63.7
Se12 11742 07.6 2517 1.6 14259 09.2 8003 5.2 22262 14.4 243772 155075 63.6
Oc12 11741 07.5 2433 1.6 14174 09.1 7768 5.0 21942 14.1 243983 155779 63.8
Nv12 11404 07.4 2505 1.6 13909 09.0 7898 5.1 21807 14.1 244174 154953 63.5


General color-coding guidelines:
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table.
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession.
This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count.

Quote:

Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935.
The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression.

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017.

The figure of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure. It does not return to Jan 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. For April 2018 this figure is lower than any January figure since it was created in 1994.
With Obamanomics pushing more into the Involuntary Part-Time group, this also got bloated to disguise the horrible Unemployment problems, and this Rate did not return to 2008 level until 2018.

The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.
By 2016 the Marginally Attached plus Involuntary Part-Time counts were more than the Fake Unemployment count.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

Some have mentioned concern regard a tight Labor Market, too many vacant jobs without enough bodies to fill them.
But we should remember to consider the Labor Participation Rate. At the turn of the century it was around 67%, and in the later Bush43 period it was 66%.
Just because Obamanomics was able to drive it down to the 62% range does not mean that is the new norm. That 5% loss of Participation Rate amounts to about 13 Million potential employees.
Sure, they may not need to live in their mom's basement anymore if they become employed, but life can just be rough.

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Friday, August 3, 2018 10:07 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



This Table of Data, which includes Not Fully Employed Rate.

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-3

I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow.

The BLS uses both Seasonally Adjusted figures and Unadjusted figures, and interchanges them without clearly identifying so. I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.

Some numbers may have a 0 placed as first digit, to maintain column form in this format.

The 1st column of numbers is the Unemployed.
The 2nd column is what is called Marginally Attached to the Labor Force, which is included in the Want A Job Now category but NOT included in the Labor Force category and therefore excluded from the reported Unemployment category.
The 3rd column is the Involuntary Part-Time workers, who are Not Employed Full Time due to poor Economy, and want, are able to work FT. The 4th column of numbers is the sum of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd columns. 5th column is the Rate for column 4 figure, divided by Labor Force.

The 6th column of numbers is the Subtotal of columns 1 and 3, Unemployed plus Involuntary Part-Time.
The 7th column is Labor Force minus column 6. This is also Employed minus column 3 Involuntary Part-Time. This is not a figure identified by BLS, so I will call it Actually Fully Employed. This is Employed Full-time plus Voluntary Part-Time.

Not listed, but Civilian noninstitutional Population minus Actually Fully Employed is also a figure avoided by BLS, and I will call it Not Fully Employed, which is Unemployed plus Involuntary Part-Time plus Marginally Attached plus Not In Labor Force. The 8th column is Not Fully Employed Rate, which is divided by Civilian noninstitutional Population.

The 9th column is the Civilian Population. 10th column is Labor Force, 11th column is Participation Rate. 12th column is the published U-6 figure.

Figures in thousands.

Mo/Yr Unem MrgAt InvPT Total Prcnt SubTtl AcEmpl NtEm CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6%
Jan94 09492 2120 4963 16575 12.8% 14455 114938 41.3% 195953 129393 66.0
Jan95 08101 1783 4620 14504 11.1% 12721 117923 40.4% 197753 130698 66.1
Jan96 08270 1737 4103 14110 10.7% 12373 119023 40.4% 199634 131396 65.8 10.8
Jan97 07933 1615 4338 13886 10.3% 12271 122046 39.7% 202285 134317 66.4 10.4
Jan98 07069 1479 4090 12638 09.3% 11159 124798 38.9% 204238 135951 66.6 09.3
Jan99 06604 1358 3645 11607 08.4% 10249 127694 38.2% 206719 137943 66.7 08.5
Jan00 06316 1197 3355 10868 07.8% 09671 129950 37.8% 208782 139621 66.9 07.8
Jan01 06647 1290 3559 11496 08.2% 10206 130843 38.0% 210889 141049 66.9 08.1
Jan02 08935 1509 4249 14693 10.4% 13184 127890 40.0% 213089 141074 66.2 10.5

Jan02 09051 1532 4453 15036 10.5% 13504 129724 40.1% 216506 143228 66.2 10.5
Jan03 09395 1598 5003 15996 11.0% 14398 130903 40.5% 219897 145301 66.1 11.0
Jan04 09144 1670 5152 15966 10.9% 14296 131772 40.7% 222161 146068 65.7 10.9
Jan05 08444 1804 4793 15041 10.2% 13237 133888 40.5% 224837 147125 65.4 10.2
Jan06 07608 1644 4513 13765 09.2% 12122 136978 39.8% 227553 149090 65.5 09.2
Jan07 07649 1577 4620 13846 09.1% 12269 139655 39.5% 230650 151924 65.9 09.1
Jan08 08221 1729 5235 15185 09.9% 13456 139372 40.1% 232616 152828 65.7 09.9
Jan09 13009 2130 8675 23814 15.5% 21684 131761 43.9% 234739 153445 65.4 15.4
Jan10 16147 2539 9161 27847 18.2% 25308 127649 46.1% 236832 152957 64.6 18.0
Jan11 14937 2800 9027 26764 17.5% 23964 128572 46.1% 238704 152536 63.9 17.3
Jan12 13541 2809 8747 25097 16.4% 22288 131197 45.8% 242269 153485 63.4 16.2
Jan13 13181 2443 8506 24130 15.6% 21687 133107 45.6% 244663 154794 63.3 15.4
Jan14 10855 2592 7617 21064 13.6% 18472 135909 45.0% 246915 154381 62.5 13.5
Jan15 09498 2234 7125 18857 12.1% 16623 139427 44.2% 249723 156050 62.5 12.0
Jan16 08309 2089 6234 16632 10.6% 14543 142804 43.4% 252397 157347 62.3 10.5
Jan17 08149 1752 6127 16028 10.1% 14276 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Jan18 07189 1653 5380 14222 08.9% 12569 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9


Jan17 08149 1752 6127 16028 10.1% 14276 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Feb17 07887 1723 5700 14310 09.0% 13587 145895 42.6% 254246 159482 62.7 09.5
Mar17 07289 1595 5498 14381 09.0% 12787 147125 42.2% 254414 159912 62.9 08.9
Apr17 06555 1534 4990 13079 08.2% 11545 148272 41.8% 254588 159817 62.8 08.1
My 17 06572 1475 4994 13041 08.2% 11566 148413 41.7% 254767 159979 62.8 08.1
Jun17 07250 1582 5555 14387 08.9% 12805 148532 41.7% 254957 161337 63.3 08.9
Jul 17 07441 1629 5430 14500 09.0% 12871 149040 41.6% 255151 161911 63.5 08.9
Aug17 07287 1548 5130 13965 08.7% 12417 148446 41.9% 255357 160863 63.0 08.6
Sep17 06556 1569 4740 12865 08.0% 11296 149753 41.4% 255562 161049 63.0 08.0
Oct17 06242 1535 4496 12273 07.6% 10738 149727 41.5% 255766 160465 62.7 07.6
Nov17 06286 1481 4554 12321 07.7% 10840 149626 41.5% 255949 160466 62.7 07.7
Dec17 06278 1623 4992 12893 08.1% 11270 148610 42.0% 256109 159880 62.4 08.0

Jan18 07189 1653 5380 14222 08.9% 12569 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9
Feb18 07091 1602 5241 13934 08.6% 12332 149162 41.9% 256934 161494 62.9 08.6
Mar18 06671 1454 4975 13100 08.1% 11646 149902 41.7% 257097 161548 62.8 08.1
Apr18 05932 1362 4631 11925 07.4% 10563 150717 41.4% 257272 161280 62.7 07.4
My 18 05657 1455 4677 11789 07.3% 10334 151431 41.2% 257454 161765 62.8 07.3
Jun18 06812 1437 4974 13223 08.1% 11786 151491 41.2% 257642 163277 63.4 08.1
Jul 18 06730 1498 4701 12929 07.9% 11431 152303 40.9% 257843 163734 63.5 07.9


Jul 12 13400 2529 8218 24147 15.4% 21618 134908 44.1% 243354 156526 64.3
Aug12 12696 2561 7723 22980 14.8% 20419 134836 44.6% 243566 155255 63.7
Sep12 11742 2517 8003 22262 14.4% 19745 135330 44.5% 243772 155075 63.6
Oct12 11741 2433 7768 21942 14.1% 19509 136270 44.1% 243983 155779 63.8
Nov12 11404 2505 7898 21807 14.1% 19302 135651 44.4% 244174 154953 63.5


General color-coding guidelines:
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table.
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession.
This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count.

Quote:

Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935.
The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression.

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017.
With Obamanomics pushing more into the Involuntary Part-Time group, this also got bloated to disguise the horrible Unemployment problems, and this Rate did not return to 2008 level until 2018.

The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.


The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

Some have mentioned concern regard a tight Labor Market, too many vacant jobs without enough bodies to fill them.
But we should remember to consider the Labor Participation Rate. At the turn of the century it was around 67%, and in the later Bush43 period it was 66%.
Just because Obamanomics was able to drive it down to the 62% range does not mean that is the new norm. That 5% loss of Participation Rate amounts to about 13 Million potential employees.
Sure, they may not need to live in their mom's basement anymore if they become employed, but life can just be rough.


In the previous Tables of data, we can see that as far as common Indicators are concerned, all figures, totals, and Subtotals are at or near all-time lows (since the creation of U-6 in 1994) under Trump. But the categories are still manipulated, and potentially misrepresented.
So to help understand how much of the population is actually not allowed to be Employed Full-time when they want to, I have included in the above Table the 8th column of numbers, the Not Fully Employed Rate, which is a percentage of the Civilian noninstitutional Population. Because of the much larger denominator this figure will not have such drastic swings as other figures reported. This can help demonstrate how many are still able to fill a "tight Labor Market" which some are worried about. It can also provide an unvarnished picture of how many are not working, and compare to other periods since U-6 was created. These 2 figures help show how the Labor Force Participation Rate and U-6 realistically work together.

Even with this new figure, it is the lowest since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession, which began October 2007 at the start of FY2008.

One comparison of note: in the past 2 months (since schools were in session), the Labor Force has increased by almost 2 million, but the sums of Unemployed and Involuntary Part-time have only increased 1.1 million. This means that about 900,000 of fresh schooling products have been absorbed by the demand from employers, in only 2 months.

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Friday, August 3, 2018 10:08 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



This Table of Data, where I included the Margin of Gain for Labor Force, and Margin of Gain for Actually Fully Employed:

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-4

I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow.

The BLS uses both Seasonally Adjusted figures and Unadjusted figures, and interchanges them without clearly identifying so. I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.

Some numbers may have a 0 placed as first digit, to maintain column form in this format.

The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed.
The 2nd column is what is called Marginally Attached to the Labor Force, which is included in the Want A Job Now category but NOT included in the Labor Force category and therefore excluded from the reported Unemployment category.
The 3rd column is the Involuntary Part-Time workers, who are Not Employed Full Time due to poor Economy, and want, are able to work FT.
The 4th column is the sum of the first 3 columns. 5th column is the Rate for column 4 figure, with Labor Force as the denominator.
The 6th column of numbers is the Subtotal of columns 1 and 3, Unemployed plus Involuntary Part-Time.
The 7th column is Labor Force minus column 6. This is also Employed minus column 3 Involuntary Part-Time. This is not a figure identified by BLS, so I will call it Actually Fully Employed. This is Employed Full-time plus Voluntary Part-Time.
Not listed, but Civilian noninstitutional Population minus Actually Fully Employed is also a figure avoided by BLS, and I will call it Not Fully Employed, which is Unemployed plus Involuntary Part-Time plus Marginally Attached plus Not In Labor Force. The 8th column is Not Fully Employed Rate, which is divided by Civilian noninstitutional Population.
The 9th column is the Civilian Population. 10th column is Labor Force, 11th column is Participation Rate.
The 12th column is Marginal Labor Force Rate. This percent is the gain of the Labor Force divided by the gain of the Civilian noninstitutional Population.
The 13th column is the Marginal Actual Fully Employed Rate. This percent is the gain in the Actual Fully Employed divided by the gain of the Civilian noninstitutional Population.

Figures in thousands.

MoYr Unem MrgAt InvPT Total Prct SubTtl AcEmpl NtEm CivPop LbrForc Prtc% MgLF MgAE
Ja94 09492 2120 4963 16575 12.8 14455 114938 41.3% 195953 129393 66.0 +101.5
Ja95 08101 1783 4620 14504 11.1 12721 117923 40.4% 197753 130698 66.1 +072.5 +165.8
Ja96 08270 1737 4103 14110 10.7 12373 119023 40.4% 199634 131396 65.8 +037.1 +058.5
Ja97 07933 1615 4338 13886 10.3 12271 122046 39.7% 202285 134317 66.4 +110.2 +114.1
Ja98 07069 1479 4090 12638 09.3 11159 124798 38.9% 204238 135951 66.6 +083.7 +140.9
Ja99 06604 1358 3645 11607 08.4 10249 127694 38.2% 206719 137943 66.7 +080.3 +116.7
Ja00 06316 1197 3355 10868 07.8 09671 129950 37.8% 208782 139621 66.9 +081.3 +109.4
Ja01 06647 1290 3559 11496 08.2 10206 130843 38.0% 210889 141049 66.9 +067.8 +042.4
Ja02 08935 1509 4249 14693 10.4 13184 127890 40.0% 213089 141074 66.2 +001.1 --134.2

Ja02 09051 1532 4453 15036 10.5 13504 129724 40.1% 216506 143228 66.2 +038.8 --019.9
Ja03 09395 1598 5003 15996 11.0 14398 130903 40.5% 219897 145301 66.1 +061.1 +034.8
Ja04 09144 1670 5152 15966 10.9 14296 131772 40.7% 222161 146068 65.7 +033.9 +038.4
Ja05 08444 1804 4793 15041 10.2 13237 133888 40.5% 224837 147125 65.4 +039.5 +079.1
Ja06 07608 1644 4513 13765 09.2 12122 136978 39.8% 227553 149090 65.5 +072.3 +113.8
Ja07 07649 1577 4620 13846 09.1 12269 139655 39.5% 230650 151924 65.9 +091.5 +086.4
Ja08 08221 1729 5235 15185 09.9 13456 139372 40.1% 232616 152828 65.7 +046.0 --014.4
Ja09 13009 2130 8675 23814 15.5 21684 131761 43.9% 234739 153445 65.4 +029.1 --358.5
Ja10 16147 2539 9161 27847 18.2 25308 127649 46.1% 236832 152957 64.6 --023.3 --196.5
Ja11 14937 2800 9027 26764 17.5 23964 128572 46.1% 238704 152536 63.9 --022.5 +049.3
Ja12 13541 2809 8747 25097 16.4 22288 131197 45.8% 242269 153485 63.4 +026.6 +073.6
Ja13 13181 2443 8506 24130 15.6 21687 133107 45.6% 244663 154794 63.3 +054.7 +079.8
Ja14 10855 2592 7617 21064 13.6 18472 135909 45.0% 246915 154381 62.5 --018.3 +124.4
Ja15 09498 2234 7125 18857 12.1 16623 139427 44.2% 249723 156050 62.5 +059.4 +125.3
Ja16 08309 2089 6234 16632 10.6 14543 142804 43.4% 252397 157347 62.3 +055.8 +145.6
Ja17 08149 1752 6127 16028 10.1 14276 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5 +078.9 +094.7
Ja18 07189 1653 5380 14222 08.9 12569 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3 +050.4 +113.7

Fb18 07091 1602 5241 13934 08.6 12332 149162 41.9% 256934 161494 62.9 +946.1 1100.0
Mr18 06671 1454 4975 13100 08.1 11646 149902 41.7% 257097 161548 62.8 +033.1 +454.0
Ap18 05932 1362 4631 11925 07.4 10563 150717 41.4% 257272 161280 62.7 --153.1 +456.7
My18 05657 1455 4677 11789 07.3 10334 151431 41.2% 257454 161765 62.8 +266.5 +243.4
Jn18 06812 1437 4974 13223 08.1 11786 151491 41.2% 257642 163277 63.4 +804.3 +031.9
Jl 18 06730 1498 4701 12929 07.9 11431 152303 40.9% 257843 163734 63.5 +404.0 +212.4


Jl 12 13400 2529 8218 24147 15.4 21618 134908 44.1% 243354 156526 64.3
Ag12 12696 2561 7723 22980 14.8 20419 134836 44.6% 243566 155255 63.7 --598.6 --034.0
Se12 11742 2517 8003 22262 14.4 19745 135330 44.5% 243772 155075 63.6 --087.4 +239.8
Oc12 11741 2433 7768 21942 14.1 19509 136270 44.1% 243983 155779 63.8 +333.6 +445.5
No12 11404 2505 7898 21807 14.1 19302 135651 44.4% 244174 154953 63.5 --432.5 --324.1


General color-coding guidelines:
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table.
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession.
This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count.
This color highlights Actually Employed figures which have not recovered from a prior high count.
This color highlights growth of Civilian noninstitutional Population over 3 Million, 18 years after relevant births.


Quote:

Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935.
The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression.

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017.
With Obamanomics pushing more into the Involuntary Part-Time group, this also got bloated to disguise the horrible Unemployment problems, and this Rate did not return to 2008 level until 2018.

The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

Some have mentioned concern regard a tight Labor Market, too many vacant jobs without enough bodies to fill them.
But we should remember to consider the Labor Participation Rate. At the turn of the century it was around 67%, and in the later Bush43 period it was 66%.
Just because Obamanomics was able to drive it down to the 62% range does not mean that is the new norm. That 5% loss of Participation Rate amounts to about 13 Million potential employees.
Sure, they may not need to live in their mom's basement anymore if they become employed, but life can just be rough.


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Saturday, August 4, 2018 9:18 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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The vacant jobs that need filling are skilled positions. Millennials aren't learning the skills from their Mom's basement, and they're certainly not learning them while acquiring their Bachleor's degrees with a major in Gender Studies.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, August 9, 2018 6:26 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Updating with today's report data:

Jobless Claims.

Apparently the 209,000 reported on 26 April 2018 was the lowest since 1969. And the 210,000 on 1 March was too.

Other weeks:

230,000 1 February
221,000 8 February
229,000 15 February
222,000 22 February
210,000 1 March - 4wk avg 221
230,000 8 March
226,000 15 March
227,000 22 March
215,000 29 March - 4wk avg 225
242,000 5 April
233,000 12 April
233,000 19 April
209,000 26 April - Apr avg 229
211,000 3 May
211,000 10 May
223,000 17 May
234,000 24 May - May avg 220
221,000 31 May (for week ending 26 May) - May avg 220
222,000 7 June (for week ending 2 June)
218,000 14 June
218,000 21 June
227,000 28 June - June avg 221
231,000 5 July
214,000 12 July
207,000 19 July
217,000 26 July - July avg 217
218,000 2 August
213,000 9 August - 2 week avg 216,000

207,000 is the lowest number since 1969. And 217,000 is the lowest average this year, and for decades.

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Thursday, August 9, 2018 7:02 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Again, keep in mind the only people that actually report that they are unemployed are the ones that are drawing paychecks. You're free to keep reporting it after the last paycheck is paid out, but nobody actually does.

Those numbers are lies.

And assuming that we've stopped extending the payouts and we're only paying out unemployment to 6 months instead of a year or more like we were for a while, that's automatically a 50% or more drop in people reporting their unemployment.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, August 10, 2018 5:24 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


www.shadowstats.com

I should see how that site views the Unemployment picture.

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Friday, August 10, 2018 5:34 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Again, keep in mind the only people that actually report that they are unemployed are the ones that are drawing paychecks. You're free to keep reporting it after the last paycheck is paid out, but nobody actually does.

Those numbers are lies.

And assuming that we've stopped extending the payouts and we're only paying out unemployment to 6 months instead of a year or more like we were for a while, that's automatically a 50% or more drop in people reporting their unemployment.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

This won't bolster your argument: Initial Jobless Claims are going to be the people looking for a check, handout. It is hard to conjure that those folk will withhold their access to funds just to spite the reporting of unemployment.
Further, folk who have been Jobless for a period, up to 6 months, before filing these Initial Claims, may have been underrepresented elsewhere, but Jobless Claims are sure to be the best measure of them.

The same report also details continuing Claims, and I think also those claims which ran out of funds, as opposed to those who gained a job. You are welcome to post that data if you choose - as long as you're not using Fake Data from second, that is.

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Tuesday, August 14, 2018 3:53 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



The shadowstats site is lean on actual data, requiring a subscription to access what it claims as database.
However, I will make attempt to add in some of the data it presents. This does make assumption that their methodology and counting methods are valid, which I cannot find clear information about.
There also may be comingling of Seasonally Adjusted figures from shadowstats without clarity, but this will be the only series of Tables I post which veer from Not Seasonally Adjusted figures.

The charts they present do show that Unemployment under Trump is better than any time under Obamanomics, so it may be a worthwhile endeavor to investigate.




I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-5


I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real.


The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed. The 2nd column is the Rate.
The 3rd column is the sum of the Unemployed plus Marginally Attached plus Involuntary Part-time. 4th column is the Rate for column 3 figure. The Rates in columns 2 and 4 have the denominator of Labor Force.
The 5th column is the Civilian Population. 6th column is Labor Force, 7th column is Participation Rate. 8th column is the published U-6 figure.
The 9th column is the Real Unemployment figure, as presented by shadowstats. The 10th column is the underreported, the difference between the U-6 figure from BLS and the Real figure from shadowstats.

Figures in thousands.

MoYr Unem Pcnt Total Prcnt CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6% Real Separation
Ja93 09911 07.9 16575 12.8 192644 126034 65.4
Ja94 09492 07.3 16575 12.8 195953 129393 66.0 12% 15.3% 2.3%
Ja95 08101 06.2 14504 11.1 197753 130698 66.1 10% 13.5% 3.5%
Ja96 08270 06.3 14110 10.7 199634 131396 65.8 10.8% 13.5% 2.7%
Ja97 07933 05.9 13886 10.3 202285 134317 66.4 10.4% 13% 2.6%
Ja98 07069 05.2 12638 09.3 204238 135951 66.6 09.3% 12% 2.7%
Ja99 06604 04.8 11607 08.4 206719 137943 66.7 08.5% 11.5% 3.0%
Ja00 06316 04.5 10868 07.8 208782 139621 66.9 07.8% 11% 3.2%
Ja01 06647 04.7 11496 08.2 210889 141049 66.9 08.1% 10.5% 2.4%
Ja02 08935 06.3 14693 10.4 213089 141074 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5%

Ja02 09051 06.3 15036 10.5 216506 143228 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5%
Ja03 09395 06.5 15996 11.0 219897 145301 66.1 11.0% 13% 2.0%
Ja04 09144 06.3 15966 10.9 222161 146068 65.7 10.9% 14% 3.1%
Ja05 08444 05.7 15041 10.2 224837 147125 65.4 10.2% 13% 2.8%
Ja06 07608 05.1 13765 09.2 227553 149090 65.5 09.2% 12% 2.8%
Ja07 07649 05.0 13846 09.1 230650 151924 65.9 09.1% 12% 2.9%
Ja08 08221 05.4 15185 09.9 232616 152828 65.7 09.9% 13% 3.1%
Ja09 13009 08.5 23814 15.5 234739 153445 65.4 15.4% 20% 4.6%
Ja10 16147 10.6 27847 18.2 236832 152957 64.6 18.0% 22% 4.0%
Ja11 14937 09.8 26764 17.5 238704 152536 63.9 17.3% 22.5% 5.2%
Ja12 13541 08.8 25097 16.4 242269 153485 63.4 16.2% 22.5% 6.3%
Ja13 13181 08.5 24130 15.6 244663 154794 63.3 15.4% 23% 7.6%
Ja14 10855 07.0 21064 13.6 246915 154381 62.5 13.5% 23.5% 10%
Ja15 09498 06.1 18857 12.1 249723 156050 62.5 12.0% 23.5% 11.5%
Ja16 08309 05.3 16632 10.6 252397 157347 62.3 10.5% 23% 12.5%
Ja17 08149 05.1 16028 10.1 254082 158676 62.5 10.1% 23% 12.9%
Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1%

Fb18 07091 04.4 13934 08.6 256934 161494 62.9 08.6% 21.9% 13.3%
Mr18 06671 04.1 13100 08.1 257097 161548 62.8 08.1% 21.8% 13.7%
Ap18 05932 03.7 11925 07.4 257272 161280 62.7 07.4% 21.5% 14.1%
My18 05657 03.6 11789 07.3 257454 161765 62.8 07.3% 21.4% 14.1%
Jn18 06812 04.2 13223 08.1 257642 163277 63.4 08.1% 21.5% 13.4%
J l 18 06730 04.1 12929 07.9 257843 163734 63.5 07.9% 21.3% 13.4%


J l 12 13400 08.6 24147 15.4 243354 156526 64.3
Au12 12696 08.2 22980 14.8 243566 155255 63.7
Se12 11742 07.6 22262 14.4 243772 155075 63.6
Oc12 11741 07.5 21942 14.1 243983 155779 63.8
Nv12 11404 07.4 21807 14.1 244174 154953 63.5


General color-coding guidelines:
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table.
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession.
This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count.

Quote:

Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935.
The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression.

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017.

A key factor that shadowstats points out is that the feeder category, the category which generates the discrepancy between BLS Fiction and reality, is the Marginally Attached. When Obamanomics doubled this figure, it was able to permanently exclude these Unemployed from the stats for the remainder of the Obamanomics Stagnation Extended Recession.
It was much more difficult for Obama to expell his victims from the BLS rolls around 2011 when Unemployment was so bad there were Extended Benefits, (so applicants were required to document work searches before getting Unemployment Insurance Payments) - and this part of the Work Force could not be deleted from the Labor Force until they stopped documenting their search for work.


The figure of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure since the Redefining of 1994 (which shadowstats states was to cover up the Losses of Employment from NAFTA). It does not return to Jan 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. For April 2018 this figure is lower than any January figure since it was created in 1994.


The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.

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Thursday, August 16, 2018 6:10 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Updating with today's report data:

Jobless Claims.

Apparently the 209,000 reported on 26 April 2018 was the lowest since 1969. And the 210,000 on 1 March was too.

Other weeks:

230,000 1 February
221,000 8 February
229,000 15 February
222,000 22 February
210,000 1 March - 4wk avg 221
230,000 8 March
226,000 15 March
227,000 22 March
215,000 29 March - 4wk avg 225
242,000 5 April
233,000 12 April
233,000 19 April
209,000 26 April - Apr avg 229
211,000 3 May
211,000 10 May
223,000 17 May
234,000 24 May - May avg 220
221,000 31 May (for week ending 26 May) - May avg 220
222,000 7 June (for week ending 2 June)
218,000 14 June
218,000 21 June
227,000 28 June - June avg 221
231,000 5 July
214,000 12 July
207,000 19 July
217,000 26 July - July avg 217
218,000 2 August
213,000 9 August
212,000 16 August - 3 week avg 214,000

207,000 is the lowest number since 1969. And 217,000 is the lowest average this year, and for decades.


We now have 6 weeks in a row under 220,000. The prior such trend was 3 weeks.

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Sunday, August 19, 2018 2:54 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I appreciate you keeping up with this topic. I read it but don't generally post.




THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

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Tuesday, August 21, 2018 12:27 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
I appreciate you keeping up with this topic. I read it but don't generally post.

THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

Thanks for being patient with the construction of some of the posts. Some of them take some time to cram all the data in.

Have you looked at the shadowstats site?
I'm not yet convinced of the methodology, I haven't been able to access that part of his site. I'm worried that his process doesn't seem to have an avenue for correction if the stats drift off. For instance, the recent release of school cycle output, if the Unemployment was not really low, then businesses should have been able to fill many of their positions. But many businesses still cannot fill their jobs, simple non-skill positions, and this suggests the Unemployment level really is low.

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Tuesday, August 21, 2018 1:06 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Sadly, I'm pretty busy with my job and don't have the time to delve into things I'm interested in. So the short answer is no - I haven't gone into the depths of shadowstats.




THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

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Thursday, August 23, 2018 6:47 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Updating with today's report data:

Jobless Claims.

Apparently the 209,000 reported on 26 April 2018 was the lowest since 1969. And the 210,000 on 1 March was too.

Other weeks:

230,000 1 February
221,000 8 February
229,000 15 February
222,000 22 February
210,000 1 March - 4wk avg 221
230,000 8 March
226,000 15 March
227,000 22 March
215,000 29 March - 4wk avg 225
242,000 5 April
233,000 12 April
233,000 19 April
209,000 26 April - Apr avg 229
211,000 3 May
211,000 10 May
223,000 17 May
234,000 24 May - May avg 220
221,000 31 May (for week ending 26 May) - May avg 220
222,000 7 June (for week ending 2 June)
218,000 14 June
218,000 21 June
227,000 28 June - June avg 221
231,000 5 July
214,000 12 July
207,000 19 July
217,000 26 July - July avg 217
218,000 2 August
213,000 9 August
212,000 16 August
210,000 23 August - 4 week avg 213,000

207,000 is the lowest number since 1969. And 217,000 is the lowest average this year, and for decades.


We now have 7 weeks in a row under 220,000. The prior such trend was 3 weeks.

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Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:14 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Updating with today's report data:

Jobless Claims.

Apparently the 209,000 reported on 26 April 2018 was the lowest since 1969. And the 210,000 on 1 March was too.

Other weeks:

230,000 1 February
221,000 8 February
229,000 15 February
222,000 22 February
210,000 1 March - 4wk avg 221
230,000 8 March
226,000 15 March
227,000 22 March
215,000 29 March - 4wk avg 225
242,000 5 April
233,000 12 April
233,000 19 April
209,000 26 April - Apr avg 229
211,000 3 May
211,000 10 May
223,000 17 May
234,000 24 May - May avg 220
221,000 31 May (for week ending 26 May) - May avg 220
222,000 7 June (for week ending 2 June)
218,000 14 June
218,000 21 June
227,000 28 June - June avg 221
231,000 5 July
214,000 12 July
207,000 19 July
217,000 26 July - July avg 217
218,000 2 August
213,000 9 August
212,000 16 August
210,000 23 August - 4 week avg 213,000
213,000 30 August - 5 week avg 213,000

207,000 is the lowest number since 1969. And 217,000 is the lowest average this year, and for decades.


We now have 8 weeks in a row under 220,000. The prior such trend was 3 weeks.

And we have 4 weeks in a row at or under 213,000.

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Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:24 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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I think you should take a few shitty 2nd jobs over the course of the next year or two just to see the type of jobs there are out there and gain a little perspective in your ways of thinking.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, September 3, 2018 10:58 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


With so many weeks of low Jobless Claim numbers, this has been resulting in improvements in the monthly Unemployment Rate, bucking historic trends.
This could portend really improved Unemployment Rate, and Labor Participant Rate for August, reporting on Friday.
Involuntary Part-time could drop to a level similar to January 2002.

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Wednesday, September 5, 2018 6:06 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The vacant jobs that need filling are skilled positions. Millennials aren't learning the skills from their Mom's basement, and they're certainly not learning them while acquiring their Bachleor's degrees with a major in Gender Studies.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Over this past weekend I caught some coverage of the Crossfit Games, held in Madison the 1st week of August. On the female side on the board, most of the last names ended in "dottir" - none of them won.

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Wednesday, September 5, 2018 8:47 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The vacant jobs that need filling are skilled positions. Millennials aren't learning the skills from their Mom's basement, and they're certainly not learning them while acquiring their Bachleor's degrees with a major in Gender Studies.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Over this past weekend I caught some coverage of the Crossfit Games, held in Madison the 1st week of August. On the female side on the board, most of the last names ended in "dottir" - none of them won.



They're from Iceland? I don't think I understand your reply and how it relates to the post you quoted.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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