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The GOP's Medicaid Expansion Gap: Poor Southern People Of Color

POSTED BY: NIKI2
UPDATED: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 17:58
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Tuesday, December 17, 2013 12:45 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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Americans who won't be covered by Medicaid under Obamacare because of Republican opposition are disproportionally black or Hispanic and Southern, according to a new report from the Kaiser Family Foundation. ( http://kff.org/health-reform/issue-brief/characteristics-of-poor-unins
ured-adults-who-fall-into-the-coverage-gap
/)

The non-partisan foundation broke down the demographics of the nearly 5 million people who fall in the coverage gap in 25 non-expanding states.

Nearly eight in 10 (79 percent) live in the South. Blacks (27 percent) and Hispanics (21 percent) combined totaled more than whites (47 percent) in the gap.

The gender breakdown is roughly even: 51 percent male and 49 percent female. Childless adults, who usually can't qualify for the current Medicaid program, make up 76 percent of the coverage gap.

Half are younger adults between the ages 19 and 34. Nearly half (49 percent) are reportedly in good or excellent health -- but 20 percent are in fair or poor health. (Interactive map with figures at http://s3.talkingpointsmemo.com.s3.amazonaws.com/map/map.html


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Tuesday, December 17, 2013 1:17 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yeah...

I'm right there with you, my poor southern brothers and sisters of color....

I don't have to pay the tax, but the "affordable" healthcare act misses me because I smoke, even though I'm in my early 30's.

I'm one of the 10% who is TRULY fucked with the ONLY PRE-EXISTING CONDITION THEY PENALIZE!!!!!

FUCK OBAMA...

FUCK ACA....

FUCK YOU...

Have fun in your own little socialist Utopia Niki.

I guess everyone of every color and sex is invited, so long as we don't smoke.


EDITED TO ADD: Oh, and don't come to me when they start taxing people for being too stupid or too old and they come after you. I'd love to babysit your kids when you're so frail, but I got my own neice/nephew to worry about.

I bet you're just as fat as I smoke.

Hypocrite......


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Tuesday, December 17, 2013 3:15 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Jack, am I missing something? Shouldn't you expect to pay more as a smoker?

Smokers typically need more $$$ of healthcare treatment than non-smokers. If insurers are not allowed to charge smokers for their more expensive treatment, then that burden falls on everyone, including non-smokers. I think you would call that socialism.

And do you think smoking should be treated as a pre-existing condition? Isn't it a choice you've made?

It just seems to me, that smoking is a lot more expensive than you thought. Consider quitting. Apparently Obamacare can help you with that.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Tuesday, December 17, 2013 4:09 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


As always, KPO, I don't read sux's posts, but apparently he wrote something about smoking being a pre-existing condition? It's not, and never was, and yes, we DO get charged higher premiums if we smoke, just as you wrote. I'm a smoker so my Medicare supplemental insurance premium is higher because of that, just as it should be. I assume sux is just drunk, as usual.

Pre-existing conditions are MEDICAL CONDITIONS for which one has been treated in the past, and under the ACA, one can no longer be excluded from health insurance because of them. Smoking isn't a medical condition, it's a habit.


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Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:06 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


These are not the droids your looking for...

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Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:07 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Why should I expect to pay more as a smoker?

As much as I hate myself and do bad things, I'm 5'7", 180lbs and i can still bench over 225 lbs, I'm still moderately attractive since I'm still single and will NEVER be undesirable until a thorough year of marriage, and I would sooner shoot myself in the face than get fat......

My educated brother and my uber-educated sis-in-law make more than 130k a year combined and they weigh a combined 550lbs pre-baby, hopefully this week.

I love them both, but even my brother would agree with me here. We talk about this shit all the time. Former Soldier that HATES the STATUS QUO.

I have an athletic build, even after years of abuse. If you never caught me smoking, you'd think I was Hugh Grant or whatever British D-bag you soccer moms love now.






Wow... I'm admittedly f'd up. Why am I trying to convince you with words what my body could do without talking at all...

Stupid, stupid brain....

I got so much further in life when i didn't think at all for myself.....

You all are just so lucky :)



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Originally posted by kpo:
Jack, am I missing something? Shouldn't you expect to pay more as a smoker?

Smokers typically need more $$$ of healthcare treatment than non-smokers. If insurers are not allowed to charge smokers for their more expensive treatment, then that burden falls on everyone, including non-smokers. I think you would call that socialism.

And do you think smoking should be treated as a pre-existing condition? Isn't it a choice you've made?

It just seems to me, that smoking is a lot more expensive than you thought. Consider quitting. Apparently Obamacare can help you with that.

It's not personal. It's just war.




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Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:14 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Why should I expect to pay more as a smoker?

As much as I hate myself and do bad things, I'm 5'7", 180lbs and i can still bench over 225 lbs, I'm still moderately attractive since I'm still single and will NEVER be undesirable until a thorough year of marriage, and I would sooner shoot myself in the face than get fat......



Because muscles and (supposed) good looks don't fight cancer, genius.




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:16 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Oh, and by the way, I will MUCH MORE LIKELY die before than I'm 62 years old from some sort of smoke related illness, thereby diverting my expenses from your tax-pool....

I've already been told by my Government that at my age I shouldn't expect any benefits from this tax I'm currently paying....

I'm doing you a favor....

I hate doctors. I won't get any exams. When it's my time to die, and I have no illusions that it will take all that long, it will be corporate/government sponsored. Our bro gets this paid for house. Now's the hard part for everyone else. Keep him stable enough not to explode and shit all over everything now that I'm gone.

If you love nobody, it really hurts when people love you. My brother and a girl at work seem to fawn over me...

Something will have to be done about them when I'm gone. They are both amazing people and shouldn't be left alone....




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Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:58 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Anyway, regarding the original topic of the thread...

Republican policies screwing minorities in disproportionate numbers? Nah, I can't believe that...

It's not personal. It's just war.

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