They're still around? by Bytemite

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They're still around?

POSTED BY: BYTEMITE
UPDATED: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 22:44
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Tuesday, November 8, 2011 7:07 PM

I saw a guy on the bus with a jacket with a patch that said "Pinkerton Government Security" on it.

I felt a surprising amount of mistrust for this random stranger, and had to make myself not look too hostile or stare.

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Tuesday, November 8, 2011 7:30 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

Your encounter recalls a favorite show.

--Anthony

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"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner

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Tuesday, November 8, 2011 8:05 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Oh yes, they're currently part of SecuritasAB, just as them fuckin Wacken-nuts are now part of Group4.
Only the names change, the game never does.

And you can bet your ass the fuckin Pinks are gorging themselves merrily at the trough of DepHomeSec and TSA slush funds and contracts with happy little visions of getting to don the jackboots once again - there's a long, LONG history between them and the IWW, as well as other unionists.

Mind you, this DESPITE it being firmly and plainly ILLEGAL for the Government to hire the Pinks for any reason whatsoever, which has been true since 1893 as a result of their conduct during the founding of the US Dept of Justice - not that it seems to matter since the powers that be never feel bound by the rules they're so willing to inflict on us.

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The Anti-Pinkerton Act of 1893 (5 USC 3108) prohibited the US Government from using employees of the Pinkerton Detective Agency or similar companies as strikebreakers. In 1977, the US Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals interpreted this statute to prohibit the U.S. Government's employment of companies that offer "mercenary, quasi-military forces as strikebreakers and armed guards" for hire. United States ex rel. Weinberger v. Equifax, 557 F.2d 456, 462 (5th Cir. 1977), cert. denied, 434 U.S. 1035 (1978). A DoD interim rule effective 16 June 2006 revises DoD Instruction 3020.41 to authorize contractor personnel other than private security contractor personnel to use deadly force against enemy armed forces only in self-defense.

Yeah verily, that includes Blackwater and the rest, as I have pointed out more than once, but no one else seems to much care.

Anyhows, better you than me - I might followed him a bit, in case he was about to have a nasty accident, yanno ?

They're scum - trust your instincts, cause in this case they were absolutely correct, Byte.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Tuesday, November 8, 2011 8:15 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht

I always thought Pinkerton was just detectives, like the ones in the mystery novels, Holmes and Dixon Hill and Poirot and all the rest, didn't know they had mercinaries too, because Holmes, Poirot et al would make some odd/interesting mercinaries.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, November 9, 2011 12:52 AM

FREMDFIRMA

*sings a solo variation on "Loathing" from the musical Wicked!*

I guess you couldn't call me an unbiased source, yeah, and I blame the Rum for the singing...

-F

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Wednesday, November 9, 2011 5:10 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

Holmes, Poirot, etc were independent detectives. The Pinkertons are/were a detective agency. Vast in scope, far in reach. They most likely started by performing investigations exclusively. They most likely employed ex-police officers and such in the beginning.

But whereas Poirot might take no interest in investigating a Union to find out who their leaders were, the Pinkertons would take such a case. And once they found those leaders... well, what's a few extra dollars to break some legs or sink someone in a river?

And if you need a bit of security from rebellious workers? Well, our ex-policemen leg-breakers are perfect for the job. And if you need that security to get a bit pro-active, and actually attack the workers? Well, our men are used to active enforcement of the... well, let's call it 'law.'

Pretty soon you've got a paid army of thugs, available to the highest bidder.

They stop looking like Sherlock Holmes pretty early in this sequence.

--Anthony

_______________________________________________

"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner

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Wednesday, November 9, 2011 8:50 AM

FREMDFIRMA

I can simplify it even further...

Imagine Rorschach with a fuckin badge.

-F

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Wednesday, November 9, 2011 7:32 PM

BYTEMITE

I saw the guy again. This time, I listened in to his phone call, and didn't help him when it looked like he might miss the mass-transit train.

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Wednesday, November 9, 2011 8:00 PM

FREMDFIRMA

I am a bad, bad man...lol
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheCorrupter

-F

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Wednesday, November 9, 2011 8:45 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht

Frem, I think Byte would have done that anyways, and do you mean that guy who made up the inkblot test? Those are hy-larious. Once Rachie and I took one of those tests online to determine what our subconscious mind was oriented around, apparently when putting our brains together the underlying theme was love. Fine with me because I loved, and still love, her very much, first person I ever loved that I wasn't related to. She was like my sister growing up. So I suppose it was accurate enough for the purpose.

But I don't think inkblots tell anyone anything really, they're just fun to be silly about.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, November 9, 2011 10:44 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Actually no - I meant the right-wing psycho from Watchmen, and I was (mostly) kidding, my ex likens me to the devil on her left shoulder sometimes...

I had some real fun screwing with the mind of a school psychologist with them inkblots once though, he was assigned to try to find an excuse to railroad me out of a certain middle school so I started messing with him and every one he showed me I saw "A Cat" in it - he of course, disbelieving, photocopied them and handed me the copies and asked me to draw upon them exactly how that looked like a cat to me, which I did, on each and every one cause I had even then a degree of cleverness and imagination that drove other people up the walls - one of my school age tricks was making other-than-intended pictures out of connect the dots pages.

Said shrink threw in the towel after that, but it was all moot once I chucked one of the school bullies flunkys down the steps anyway.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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