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Ron Paul wins GOP debate in landslide, media mafia mute on their own polls

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Friday, September 9, 2011 7:52 PM

PIRATENEWS

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Note the distorted bargraph by NBC

It’s embarrassing for the establishment. They keep holding these “debates” and Ron Paul keeps winning. The corporate media keeps posting polls and Ron Paul keeps winning. And yet we are told he can’t possibly win the nomination.
Following the dog and pony show at the Ronnie Reagan library last night, the “NBC News Political Unit” posted a poll on their website asking who won.



Following the dog and pony show at the Ronnie Reagan library last night, the “NBC News Political Unit” posted a poll on their website asking who won.



Ron Paul is the winner with 48 percent of nearly 100,000 votes (as of 7 AM CST). Mitt the Democrat who wants you to think he is a Republican came in a distant second at a mere 18 percent. Michele Bachmann, the Tea Party decoy came in with a pathetic 2.4 percent of the votes. Rick Santorum barely registered at 1.1%.

Ron Paul wins 82.8% in MSNBC poll
http://ed.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/06/13/6851987-poll-who-won-tonights
-gop-debate


Polls are irrelevant to “pundits” who love the state, though. For instance, over at the “conservative” website Newsmax, Ron Paul is considered the loser “because he’s just so out of it” and because he dissed Ronnie at his very own shrine-library. Paul dared speak the truth – Ronnie talked the talk, but when the rubber met the pavement he turned out to be just another tax-and-spender, or rather borrow-and-spender.

Ron Paul Missing From Fox News GOP Poll (only 3 candidates listed)
http://www.dailypaul.com/177828/fox-news-gop-poll-without-ron-paul-onl
y-3-candidates-listed


The Washington Post didn’t even mention Ron Paul when it talked about winners and losers. Rick Santorum, John Huntsman and the veteran globalist insider Newt Gingrich warranted more coverage, even though they obviously are not considered serious candidates by the American people, or those who are not yet completely disenchanted with politics and still pay attention.

USA Today and the rest of the corporate media ignored Paul as much as possible. They spent a lot of time discussing “job creation” and the exchange between the statist from Texas and the one from Massachusetts, both who actually think (or their wranglers do) that government can create jobs.

Perry attacked Social Security – in order to maintain his fake Tea Party stance – and Romney attacked Perry for daring to criticize the retirement fund at gunpoint program. Both “front-runners” spent most of the night worshipping the state.

Although the NBC poll showed Perry coming in a dismal third, the Los Angeles Times declared him the “the presumptive GOP front-runner” and said Paul and the other candidates “often seemed like extras, visible but silent much of the time.”
Ron Paul was “silent” because he was not asked questions by NBC news anchor Brian Williams and Politico editor John Harris. Ron Paul won the debate, “even though you gave him almost zero time to speak, and gave him questions designed to make him look like an idiot when you did,” a comment on the NBC poll page notes.

Mother Jones – the fount for “progressives” – declared the debate a toss-up between “Governor Goodhair” and the establishment Tea Party diva Michele Bachmann. They didn’t mention Paul, either, even though anti-war Democrats would do well to back Paul, the only candidate who does not support attacking small countries and militarily occupying them.

The “debate” was held in order to give the impression that the two front-runners are slugging it out and the others are merely stage props.

Millions of Americans are coming around to Ron Paul and his message. It is up to the establishment media to ignore him and get people thinking about Rick Perry and Mitt Romney who will if elected continue the charade of endless wars and a bankster dominated economy.

http://www.dailypaul.com/177737/and-the-award-for-most-deceptive-graph
-goes-to-nbc


NEW VIDEO - Jerry Doyle Slams Perry and Defends Ron Paul - Amazing Radio Segment
http://www.dailypaul.com/177683/jerry-doyle-slams-perry-and-defends-ro
n-paul-amazing-radio-segment



Israeli IRS agent Bachmann gone, transvestite cheerleader Perry is next

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Friday, September 9, 2011 10:02 PM

FREMDFIRMA



This photo made me snicker, cause for the life of me it looks like Ron is pondering the idea of a left hook by his body posture, and his eyes are sayin "Get your fuckin hand off me, palooka."

-F

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Saturday, September 10, 2011 9:29 AM

PIRATENEWS

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Campaigning outside Pittsburgh today, GOP frontrunner Rick Perry attended a picnic at St Francis of Assisi Catholic Church in Oil City where he enjoyed a foot long corndog while touring the fabulous reproduction of Michelangelo’s Sistine Chapel.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

This photo made me snicker, cause for the life of me it looks like Ron is pondering the idea of a left hook by his body posture, and his eyes are sayin "Get your fuckin hand off me, palooka."



Photo looks like Perry is making a pass at Paul.



Quote:

“He's just a sweet transvesti­te from Texasssaas­s.

In my fantasy remake of the Rocky Horror Picture Show, to be titled the Republican Horror Picture show Rick Perry has always been my favorite pick for the lead role. For those of you who have not seen my cast list here it is:

Rick Perry as Frank n Furter
Tim Pawlenty as Brad
Michele Bachmann as Janet
Thad McCotter as Riff Raff
Sarah Palin as Columbia
Christine O'Donnell as Magenta
Mitt Romney as the Narrator/C­riminologi­st
Newt Gingrinch as Eddie
Buddy Roemer as Professor Scott
Rick Santorum as Rocky

Nothing amuses me more than thinking of Rick Perry in high heels, bustier, lipstick and eyelashes belting out "I'm just a sweet transvesti­te from Texasass." ;>)”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/marsjo/rick-perry-ben-bernanke_n_
929311_103379209.html



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Meir Shlomo, Consul General to the Southwest, told the Algemeiner that Perry has been in Israel three times and has developed productive economic relationships with many Israeli companies. He noted that the governor had strongly condemned the second flotilla, and that his stance on Israel was greatly appreciated. Further, Perry’s encouragement of employment initiatives has increased his support among the Jewish business community.

As Agriculture Commissioner in 1991, he created the Texas-Israel Exchange, which promoted information and research sharing. In a 2009 interview with The Jerusalem Post, while leading an economic development delegation to Israel, Perry said the alliance between Texas and Israel was “a natural one,” comparing the spirit of Masada and the Alamo. He told the Jerusalem Post that “we’re talking about two groups of people who were willing to give up their lives for freedom and liberty.”

In the last several years, Governor Perry’s relationship with the Jewish community has become more visible. For the past two years, he has hosted an official Chanukah lighting service with Chabad. Says Rabbi Chaim Block, who has met with Perry several times. His pro business approach has appeal to Jews in all types of industries and in the medical community.

Perry became a Republican in 1989 after being a Democrat.

Rick Perry was all ready to build the Trans-Texas NAFTA super-highway which would have confiscated millions of acres from landowners through eminent domain. Although the project was shelved, you can bet it will be revived if he becomes president. It’s going to make the illegal immigration problem that much worse:
http://townhall.com/columnists/rachelalexander/2011/08/12/rick_perrys_
nafta_superhighway_problem


Speaking of illegal aliens, Rick Perry gave them in-state college tuition:
http://www.infowars.com/rick-perry-and-tuition-for-illegal-aliens/

In fact, Vicente Fox gave Rick Perry a public thanks for his support of sanctuary cities and in-state tuition for illegal aliens.
http://therepublicanmother.blogspot.com/2011/06/rick-perry-loves-illeg
al-immigration.html


Rick Perry did a run-around the Texas legislature, and by executive order mandated that all young girls receive the dangerous Gardasil vaccine, made by his buddies at Merck:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/06/04/rick_perrys_garda
sil_problem_110089.html


Rick Perry attended the globalist Bilderberg meeting in 2007, in violation of the Logan Act:
(it’s pretty obvious, especially considering the media blitz upon him entering the race, that he’s a big favorite of the Rothschild banking dynasty of England)

Rick Perry wrote to Nancy Pelosi urging her to pass TARP.
http://redstateeclectic.typepad.com/redstate_commentary/2011/08/rick-p
errys-letter-to-nancy-pelosi-urging-her-to-support-tarp.html


Rick Perry’s Crony Capitalism Problem – The Emerging Technology Fund was created at Mr. Perry’s behest in 2005. It used nearly $200 million of taxpayer money to fund 133 companies.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304760604576428262897285
614.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop


This is a beauty: Rick Perry was Al Gore’s campaign manager (that ought to thrill a few republicans – NOT):
http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2011/aug/15/ron-paul/ron-pa
ul-says-rick-perry-was-al-gores-campaign-cha
/

Furthermore, is Rick Perry REALLY as Christian as he says he is???…..

Porno profits – Rick Perry’s Hardcore History of Investment in Porn
http://djosiris.blogspot.com/2011/08/rick-perrys-hardcore-history-of.h
tml


Rick Perry likes transvestites. He attended a Drag Queen Show in Florida in 2009
http://domasjefferson.com/news/rick-perry-spent-78-at-la-te-da-drag-qu
een-show-in-florida-in-2009


Perry covered-up child rapes at The Texas Youth Commision
http://lonestarwatchdog.blogspot.com/2011/02/texas-youth-commionsion-p
edophile-ring.html


For more reasons to be leery of the guy, see “14 Reasons Why Rick Perry Would Be A Really, Really Bad President”.
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/14-reasons-why-rick-perry-wo
uld-be-a-really-really-bad-president


Rick Perry now comes out and says he opposes the Federal Reserve fiat funny-money system. Until very recently, there is no record of him ever taking a position on this issue or even discussing it. If you’re against private bankers having the ability to print money from nothing and bail out their buddies, then perhaps you should look at the the guy who has opposed the Fed for 30+ years – Ron Paul.

Rick Perry is no friend to the Constitution, and is yet another good-looking smooth-talking war-mongering neoconservative establishment shill who *claims* to be a Christian, but is NOT genuine….there are even rumors that he is, like many of the elite, at least bi-sexual…I mean “not that there’s anything wrong with that”, eh?”…well, why not at least be honest about it….stop pretending to be something your not, Rick. The problem is that if Perry is in the closet, he can be blackmailed and manipulated by the power elite. That’s exactly the type of candidate the elite always look for.

http://www.algemeiner.com/2011/08/30/rick-perry-gods-candidate/




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Saturday, September 10, 2011 12:22 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


See, PN, this is where you fall down, and where your arguments fall completely apart. All anyone needs to do is click on one of your links, like this one that you posted above:

http://ed.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/06/13/6851987-poll-who-won-tonights
-gop-debate


You use it to support your argument that the polls are fixed to keep Ron Paul out, but look at it. Ron Paul clearly decimated the field (according to left-wing Ed Schultz viewers, that is).

Only problem is, you're using a graphic and poll from JUNE in support of your claims about this week's debate. Note who's conspicuously absent (Rick Perry).

You're engaging in what you would call "PsyOps", or more generally, you're acting like what you call "Jews at work" - you're being deliberately misleading.

Now, given that you've already stated unequivocally that you won't believe ANYTHING you're told by the government until several government officials, past and present, have been murdered... I have to ask, why on Earth should we believe YOU? You're at least as misleading; shouldn't you be killed now?

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Sunday, September 11, 2011 11:55 AM

DREAMTROVE


Mike,

Sorry, John is correct here. Here's the information from MSNBC

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/07/7658608-who-do-you-thi
nk-won-the-republican-debate-at-the-reagan-library


The Reagan Library debate is the result show, MSNBC hosted, and of course, the only one Perry was at. John's charts are correct, as far as I can tell.

If he posted an outdated link, oh well, that happens, links move, etc. But he's right: the media's attitude is now "polls don't matter" because they don't want to admit to a landslidde victory for Paul.

If Ron Paul is the candidate, I will need to think more seriously about it.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Monday, September 12, 2011 1:58 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


The links didn't move. John posted a misleading link. Both links are still there; he chose NOT to post the actual link, because it doesn't show what he claims it shows - it actually shows Ron Paul winning by a huge margin.

According to him, posting the wrong link to an outdated poll with wildly different results can ONLY be a direct act intended to mislead (lie). After all, he'll not allow anyone else to make any such mistake, right? Shouldn't he be held to the same accountability standards as he holds others?



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Monday, September 12, 2011 4:18 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


"Shouldn't he be held to the same accountability standards as he holds others?"

Hello,

Yes.

--Anthony


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Mahatma Gandhi

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Monday, September 12, 2011 5:44 AM

BYTEMITE


Big picture, forest for trees, etc.

Sometimes even information that is bad or displayed in a misleading way can have some importance or value.

Regardless of what PN posts - which is too bad that he isn't more careful, because otherwise we couldn't disregard him - he makes a point here. The point is that Ron Paul's results are essentially being completely left out on a number of news stations including Fox News, Washington Post, and USA Today. If msnbc is reporting that he DID win, it's not meant as a compliment to Ron Paul, but rather something that doesn't particularly matter to viewers who traditionally vote left.

Just read the comments on the link you did post, Kwicko: "I don't really care" "Just a bunch of blame-passing anti-Obama lunatics" and so on.

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Monday, September 12, 2011 6:01 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

There is no doubt that Ron Paul’s victories have been minimized by the media. However, Mr. News merely undermines Paul further and becomes a force for the opposition when he communicates in this fashion- mixing propaganda and half-truths in with his facts. It represents a standard of reporting that is no better than the media he mocks.

--Anthony


_______________________________________________

“If you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not free at all”

Jacob Hornberger

“Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err. It passes my comprehension how human beings, be they ever so experienced and able, can delight in depriving other human beings of that precious right.”

Mahatma Gandhi

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Monday, September 12, 2011 6:23 AM

BYTEMITE


Yeah, okay. Just wanted to make sure we were all on the same page with regular news reporting before we discuss pirate news reporting.

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Monday, September 12, 2011 7:46 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


No worries, Byte - I'm with ya! I think it's both laughable and lamentable the extremes the media have gone to to ignore Dr. Paul. But I also find it laughable and lamentable that PN is perfectly willing to go to such extremes himself in his hyperbolic OVERstating of the facts.

I actually try not to be terribly dismissive of "Dr. No"; as I said before, when I challenged Wulfie - and I'll open that up to any conservative who wants to take that Pepsi Challenge - if Ron Paul wins the Republican nomination, I'll vote for him - but they have to agree that if he DOESN'T get the nomination from the GOP, they'll vote for Obama. So far, not one single conservative/libertarian has been willing to take the challenge. Shows that they have little confidence in their own candidate, I'm afraid. And I'll freely admit I've got damned little confidence in Obama, so I lose nothing by not voting for him; besides, I think Ron Paul is probably the best the GOP can do right now, and I actually like some of his stances.

And here's the crazy part: I'm not the only lefty who feels this way. Look at the MSNBC results - those are mostly lefty-loony voters responding to that post, since MSNBC definitely skews to that demographic.

At least MSNBC was willing to report that Ron Paul DID win the debate, in their viewers' eyes. The other networks just seem to leave him out of the results completely, often as not.


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Monday, September 12, 2011 7:54 AM

BYTEMITE


Yeah. He's probably more "no" about everything than the neo-con fakes, but at least that includes some important no's, like "no more pointless war" and "no scary walls meant to keep Americans trapped here."

Though it includes some troublesome stuff, like his stances on health care and emergency response, but I'd almost rather have an honest guy slash everything and then try to apply some freed up money to helping the resulting social issues, than I would people who will just flush us further down the pipe hole.

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Monday, September 12, 2011 8:05 AM

BYTEMITE


I mean, one of those gibbering morons up there, either Perry or Romney, actually said, "hey! let's use PREDATOR DRONES to patrol the southern border!"

I couldn't even face palm that was so dumb. It pretty much tops the list of stupidest and easily abused ideas I've ever heard.

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Monday, September 12, 2011 8:20 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
I mean, one of those gibbering morons up there, either Perry or Romney, actually said, "hey! let's use PREDATOR DRONES to patrol the southern border!"

I couldn't even face palm that was so dumb. It pretty much tops the list of stupidest and easily abused ideas I've ever heard.



That was Perry. You know what's even dumber and scarier than that? The fact that we HAVE BEEN USING THEM FOR A FEW YEARS NOW! He didn't even know that, and he's supposed to be the "go to" guy on border security, having the longest border with Mexico...

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Monday, September 12, 2011 8:53 AM

BYTEMITE


Whelp, we're completely screwed now. Our country had a good run. And on the bright side, I think there's enough people around now that there might be at least some pockets of TCE-free water and highly irradiated survivors after the complete collapse of global infrastructure and resulting plagues from the world war after the fall. So hey.

Who wants to join my 2012 Apocalypse Party? I think DT might be willing to contribute some manner of boat. We'll elect ourselves kings and queens of the sea until the world explodes in a fireball.

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Monday, September 12, 2011 11:46 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


What kills me is, everybody in the media acted like it was the craziest thing they'd ever heard said aloud when they reported on Ron Paul's quip about the idea that the fence you build to keep others out also becomes your own prison, keeping YOU *IN*. It was like they'd never even heard such a nutty concept, and couldn't fathom how anyone could think such a thing about America.

So now we have drones cruising the border - two at the moment, with funding for a third in the pipes, I believe - and I do believe I heard Perry asking for ARMED Predator drones on the borders. Because, you know, those things NEVER make mistakes and kill the wrong people... [/snark]

And nobody even gives a shit. Posse Comatatus doesn't apply, it seems, if there aren't really boots on the ground. :(

I hear if you buy land in Costa Rica, citizenship automatically comes with it.

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Monday, September 12, 2011 11:51 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

To my knowledge, a Predator drone has never made a mistake, nor has it ever killed anyone it wasn't supposed to. As far as I know, Predator drones have accurately carried out every action ever requested of them.

--Anthony


_______________________________________________

“If you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not free at all”

Jacob Hornberger

“Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err. It passes my comprehension how human beings, be they ever so experienced and able, can delight in depriving other human beings of that precious right.”

Mahatma Gandhi

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Monday, September 12, 2011 12:47 PM

BYTEMITE


Ah. I assumed when Rick Perry said predator drones, he meant armed, and that when you said we already have ones, they were also armed. I'd never heard of an unarmed predator drone. That's why they're, um, predators.

If some place doesn't have income tax, I'd be there. I'm not sure how much longer I can maintain a normal lifestyle, all the skills that come easily to everyone else just don't for me, and makes me useless for workplace stuff. I just need to go away somewhere and grow my own food, I think that may be all I can manage.

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Monday, September 12, 2011 12:59 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


A Byte a chara,

You can come help me run my establishment and you'll be in charge of helping my folk grow a fully sustaining garden. Or you can have a farm nearby and in adition to what we grow at our household we can buy or trade for the rest with you, since you'll grow brilliant things, and we can maybe buy eggs and milk from your farm as well. I would like that.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, September 12, 2011 1:06 PM

BYTEMITE


I did bring my orange tree back from death about five times after I accidentally gave the wrong watering instructions to a house-sitter.

The first time was either over or underwatering depending on how the instructions were interpreted, and the rest of the time was because SOMETHING kept eating the new shoots growing on the trunk. *shake fist*

Though I can't say I'd be that good at gardening right now. I'd have to practice a little. ^_^'

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Monday, September 12, 2011 2:33 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


I remember your orange tree, I hope the little guy can improve. It would be really cool if it would produce you some oranges.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, September 12, 2011 3:32 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Ah. I assumed when Rick Perry said predator drones, he meant armed, and that when you said we already have ones, they were also armed. I'd never heard of an unarmed predator drone. That's why they're, um, predators.




"Predator" is the name given the drone by the manufacturer. They have armed and unarmed versions - or they simply fly them without weapons sometimes (allegedly).

Currently there are two that concentrate on the Texas-Mexico border and a third that works the Arizona-Mexico border, but can overlap far west Texas when needed, they say.




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Monday, September 12, 2011 4:06 PM

BYTEMITE


Well, I learn something every day. Or several.

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Monday, September 12, 2011 4:11 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Who wants to join my 2012 Apocalypse Party? I think DT might be willing to contribute some manner of boat. We'll elect ourselves kings and queens of the sea until the world explodes in a fireball.


Actually I'd hire you as environmental enforcer, give you a big stick and carte blanche to apply it to anyone polluting communal or shared territory.


-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Monday, September 12, 2011 4:23 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


What do I get to do Frem?

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, September 12, 2011 4:50 PM

BYTEMITE


If I were any good at environmental protection, I wouldn't be thinking of going farmer.

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Monday, September 12, 2011 8:20 PM

FREMDFIRMA


How hard can it be ?
You catch someone polluting, you HIT THEM WITH THE STICK!
Repeat as necessary.
Trust me, that's *far* more effective than what we do now, not to mention I think it'd be rather theraputic in your case...

Riona, well, you can sing, or so I've heard - and isn't that a far more useful, beneficial thing than folk mostly realize ?

Me, I fix things, it's what I do - which means in any post catastophe situation, I'll not run short of things to do, that for sure.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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