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G'Mo Terrorist Secrets Released by wikileaks

POSTED BY: MAGONSDAUGHTER
UPDATED: Monday, April 25, 2011 18:02
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Monday, April 25, 2011 2:54 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8471907/WikiLeaks-
Guantanamo-Bay-terrorist-secrets-revealed.html


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Guantanamo Bay has been used to incarcerate dozens of terrorists who have admitted plotting terrifying attacks against the West – while imprisoning more than 150 totally innocent people, top-secret files disclose.
Some 174 prisoners are currently being held at Guantánamo

Al-Qaeda terrorists have threatened to unleash a “nuclear hellstorm” on the West if Osama Bin Laden is caught or assassinated, according to documents to be released by the WikiLeaks website, which contain details the interrogations of more than 700 Guantanamo detainees.

However, the shocking human cost of obtaining this intelligence is also exposed with dozens of innocent people sent to Guantanamo – and hundreds of low-level foot-soldiers being held for years and probably tortured before being assessed as of little significance.

The Daily Telegraph, along with other newspapers including The Washington Post, today exposes America’s own analysis of almost ten years of controversial interrogations on the world’s most dangerous terrorists. This newspaper has been shown thousands of pages of top-secret files obtained by the WikiLeaks website.

The disclosures are set to spark intense debate around the world about the establishment of Guantanamo Bay in the months after 9/11 – which has enabled the US to collect vital intelligence from senior Al Qaeda commanders but sparked fury in the middle east and Europe over the treatment of detainees.

The files detail the background to the capture of each of the 780 people who have passed through the Guantanamo facility in Cuba, their medical condition and the information they have provided during interrogations.

Only about 220 of the people detained are assessed by the Americans to be dangerous international terrorists. A further 380 people are lower-level foot-soldiers, either members of the Taliban or extremists who travelled to Afghanistan whose presence at the military facility is questionable.

At least a further 150 people are innocent Afghans or Pakistanis, including farmers, chefs and drivers who were rounded up or even sold to US forces and transferred across the world. In the top-secret documents, senior US commanders conclude that in dozens of cases there is “no reason recorded for transfer”.


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Monday, April 25, 2011 1:42 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


so clearly not provoking intense debate here....

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Monday, April 25, 2011 2:30 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

Our policies towards terrorism have been a travesty since their inception.

There's little to say or do but to shake one's head. Hopefully these leaks will force the government to do something about its continued violation of basic human rights.

--Anthony




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Monday, April 25, 2011 4:56 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Indeed - you know it's pretty harsh when one ponders asking the Cubans to act in defense of human rights against the country claiming to be the champion thereof.

If they did, I would not support military action against them, but idiot kneejerk patriotism, misguided that it is, would surely call for it.

Of course, there's also that they benefit by being able to point to the place as an example of how hypocritical and horrible WE are.

And yea, verily, I am seriously pissed at Obama for this one, sure.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Monday, April 25, 2011 5:38 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I applaud Wikileaks. I hope far more comes out that's relevant and timely.

FWIW I find it a completely WTF condition where our government can be so 'pro-democracy' and such 'human rights champions' for the middle east, while shoveling us here at home into the corporate-government maw.

But then, on the whole, I guess people get the government they deserve.

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Monday, April 25, 2011 6:02 PM

DREAMTROVE


The lack of reaction is coming from: "It's not like we didn't all already know." I mean, it would be sort of like "US deliberately targets civilian facilities in the middle east." Sorry, yes, there was outrage, but it's aged the better part of a decade by now, and we grow callous.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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