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Friday, October 13, 2023 1:02 PM

THG


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At least there's this ...
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Scalise Faces Uphill Battle For Speaker Amid Divided Republican Caucus


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/scalise-faces-uphill-battle-speake
r-amid-divided-republican-caucus



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Friday, October 13, 2023 1:08 PM

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At least there's this ...
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Scalise Faces Uphill Battle For Speaker Amid Divided Republican Caucus


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/scalise-faces-uphill-battle-speake
r-amid-divided-republican-caucus



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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM







Zerohedge? I don't follow Russian propaganda.

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Your head is so full of propaganda that there isn't room for anything else, Theodore.

Meanwhile, what was the point of this post. Scalise already dropped out of his bid for speakership, dummy.

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Friday, October 13, 2023 2:43 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Lawfare against Trump: Judge-shopping

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Federal Court Asked To Address 14th Amendment Effort To Bar Trump
Friday, Oct 13, 2023 - 11:00 AM

Authored by Jonathan Turley,

Legal academics are divided on the new popular theory that former President Donald Trump can be removed from ballots under Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment.

While I respect many of the academics who view this as a credible interpretation, I have long opposed it as textually and historically flawed. In addition to some exaggerated claims of precedent, I view the theory as one of the most dangerous in my lifetime. One thing, however, we agree upon: it is time for the federal courts to rule on this theory to bring clarity to the election. That may now occur in West Virginia where Attorney General Patrick Morrisey wants a federal court to throw out a lawsuit attempting to remove Donald Trump from the ballot in the state.

What is most striking about the filing is the accusation of judge-shopping by advocates like John Anthony Castro in seeking to remove Donald Trump from the ballot in the state.

I have previously addressed the constitutional basis for this claim. It is, in my view, wildly out of sync with the purpose of the amendment, which followed an actual rebellion, the Civil War.

The 14th Amendment bars those who took the oath and then “engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same.” It then adds that that disqualification can extend to those who have “given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.”

The “disqualification clause” was written after the 39th Congress convened in December 1865 when many members were shocked to see Alexander Stephens, the Confederate vice president, waiting to take a seat with an array of other former Confederate senators and military officers.

Justice Edwin Reade of the North Carolina Supreme Court later explained, “[t]he idea [was] that one who had taken an oath to support the Constitution and violated it, ought to be excluded from taking it again.”

According to these experts, Jan. 6 was an “insurrection” and Trump gave “aid and comfort” to those who engaged in it by spreading election fraud claims and not immediately denouncing the violence.

Polls have shown that most of the public view Jan. 6 for what it was: a protest that became a riot. One year after the riot, CBS News mostly downplayed and ignored the result of its own poll showing that 76 percent viewed it for what it was, as a “protest gone too far.” The view that it was an actual “insurrection” was far less settled, with almost half rejecting the claim, a division breaking along partisan lines.

Nevertheless, Democrats have claimed that the 14th Amendment prevents Trump from running because he supported an “insurrection or rebellion.”

They have argued that this long dormant clause can be used to block not just Trump but 120 Republicans in Congress from running for office.

The lawsuit could offer a long needed judicial review and an avenue to the Supreme Court for a final ruling. Yet, what was most notable was this paragraph in the filing on the motives and means used by Castro:

“Plaintiff John Anthony Castro filed this lawsuit as part of a multi-state litigation effort that he dubs “Operation Deadlock.” John Anthony Castro (@realJohnACastro), X (Sept. 20, 2023, 2:17 PM), https://bit.ly/48GyE9y. Castro’s supposed operation involves filing suit after suit— roughly two dozen so far
—seeking to disqualify President Donald Trump from running for election again. Castro will then “sidelin[e] and neutraliz[e] the influence of conservative judges” by “nonsuit[ing] those cases” that are not assigned to “Obama-appointed or Clinton appointed judges.” Katherine Fung, Donald Trump’s Lawyers Get Stretched Even Thinner, NEWSWEEK (Sept. 19, 2023, 11:22 AM), https://bit.ly/3S2a25B; see, e.g., Notice of Dismissal, Castro v. Henderson, No. 2:23-cv-00617 (D. Utah Sept. 27, 2023), ECF No. 14 (Castro dismissing his suit after it was reassigned to a judge appointed by President Trump); but see, e.g., In re Fieger, No. 97-1359, 1999 WL 717991 (6th Cir. Sept. 10, 1999) (affirming sanctions against attorney who had “dismissed [his] cases so that he could select the judge”). Castro evidently hopes these efforts will “completely bankrupt [President Trump] by next summer.” John Anthony Castro (@realJohnACastro), X (Sept. 27, 2023, 8:40 PM), https://bit.ly/45gxpLq.”;

Castro is running for the Republican presidential nomination. Recently, the Supreme Court refused to hear one of Castro’s cases.

Castro has been open about forum and judge shopping to get liberal, Democratic judges to rule against Trump. Castro tweeted:

“The fight is far from being over. We’re going to get the liberal 9th Circuit to kick Trump off the ballot in Montana, Idaho, Nevada, and Arizona. Coupled with the 1st Circuit kicking him off the Maine ballot, there’s ZERO path to 270. The Supreme Court can deny to hear the case but appellate courts cannot. I’m still pursuing decisions in the liberal appellate courts and there’s a full blown trial scheduled for October 20 in New Hampshire and a bench trial in Arizona on October 31.”

I tend to favor broad standing rules, but Castro’s open effort to secure review from liberal, Democratic judges should offend not only these jurists but most Americans. Castro received a J.D. from the University of New Mexico and LLM from Georgetown University.

Courts have universally denounced judge shopping. Most, like the federal court in northern Illinois, denounce the practice: “No one should be able to manipulate the assignment system in order to determine in advance which judge will get a case where the assignment is by lot.”

Obviously “forum shopping” does occur. Lawyers will seek to file in the most favorable jurisdiction, including prosecutors. Yet, I have never seen a lawyer openly discussing the manipulation of filings in search of liberal judges to achieve a particular result. The filing is accusing Castro of actually withdrawing lawsuits when he receives a judge who is not reliably liberal.

Castro must realize that he is insulting these liberal judges and making this already novel challenge even more difficult. However, it is an example of using cases to appeal to the court of public opinion. Castro knows that such raw political moves will thrill many in this age of rage.

For advocates of the 14th Amendment theory, Castro could not be a worse figure to move this claim into the courts. He adds a noxious means to a novel theory to bar Trump from ballots. Of course, this is all being done by advocates who claim that they are defending democracy but denying the ability of others to vote for one of the leading candidates for the presidency.



All is NOT fair in love, war, and politics. We have rules for a reason: to protect democracy from being driven into a ditch, as Dems are doing.

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Friday, October 13, 2023 6:36 PM

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Friday, October 13, 2023 7:14 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Republicans have to ask for help from Democrats to elect a Speaker of the House. As long as Democrats cast all their votes for their own leader — which is traditional — Republican candidates need 217 votes to win the Speaker of the House. But if Ds vote present, a Republican can win with only a majority of Republican votes. Alternatively, a "Gang of 217" Ds and Rs could get together and agree on a compromise candidate.

Until something like this happens the House is paralyzed. Without a speaker, they can't vote on anything — not budgets, not so much as a post office renaming.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, October 13, 2023 7:51 PM

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Until something like this happens the House is paralyzed. Without a speaker, they can't vote on anything — not budgets, not so much as a post office renaming.



Perfect.

We should have this all the time. Forever.

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Saturday, October 14, 2023 10:16 PM

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AP: Most say Biden has acted either illegally or unethically in his son’s business dealings

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Ethical concerns are casting a shadow over President Joe Biden as he seeks reelection amid investigations into his son Hunter and an impeachment inquiry, with a poll showing that 35% of U.S. adults believe the president himself has done something illegal.

An additional 33% say they think the Democratic president behaved unethically, but not illegally. And 30% say Joe Biden did nothing wrong, according to the poll. The results of the survey by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research reflect both a vast political divide and skepticism about the morality of government leaders.



https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-hunter-ethics-illegal-poll-survey
-fc56e4d79c8c98758e344cc13f7966ef


https://apnorc.org/projects/most-say-biden-has-acted-either-illegally-
or-unethically-in-his-sons-business-dealings
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CBS NEWS: New poll suggests President Biden may have Pennsylvania problem for 2024

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President Joe Biden made another visit to Philadelphia on Friday, a place that he comes to frequently and a state that's vital to his reelection in 2024. But with just under 13 months until the presidential race, new polling shows the president may have a Pennsylvania problem.

The president's trip to Philly on Friday was at least his 15th since he's taken office, but the latest polling shows that Pennsylvanians are looking for more from the commander-in-chief.

"It looks better and better for Donald Trump here," Jim Schultz, former White House counsel for former President Donald Trump, "but there's a lot of game to be played between now and then."

A Quinnipiac poll released last week shows Biden narrowly trailing Trump in a hypothetical matchup in the commonwealth. The same poll found Biden's favorability rating among Pennsylvanians sits at just 39%.




Trump is up in both Michigan and Pennsylvania:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/michiganandpen
nsylvania.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/biden-trump-pennsylvania-202
4-presidential-election-poll
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Wednesday, October 18, 2023 3:03 PM

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Fran Lebowitz on Trump: "No one in New York thinks he's a New Yorker"

Q: I read an interview you did with W in 2016 where you said, I don't believe Donald Trump will become president because I don't believe there are that many morons in the United States.

There are, turns out.

Q: Turns out there are.

There's three events in my lifetime that I remember every second of the event from the time it occurred. One is the assassination of John F. Kennedy. One is September 11. And the third is the night Donald Trump was elected. Because first of all, yes, I spent the year prior to the election going around the country telling thousands of people, “Zero. He has zero chance.” I said that because I believed it. It never occurred to me. It was a joke. I was really shocked.

For at least three or four months after that election, every time I walked out of my apartment, people screamed at me. "You were wrong. You were wrong." I know, I'm sorry. Believe me, I'm sorry. I was sorry I was wrong. I was sorry what that meant that I was wrong. Truthfully, if you've only been wrong one time in your life, that was not the time to be wrong. So, no, I did not believe that there were that many people who would [vote for him].

A friend of mine right before the election said he could win. I said, "That is just absurd." She said, "You don't understand this country because you don't watch reality television." I said, "That's ridiculous." I'd heard of [Trump's] television show, but I never saw it. That's true. But I never saw any reality television. I knew that a lot of people like reality television, but I didn't know they thought it was reality. It's called reality television, not reality. Right?

As you know, New York City voted for Hillary Clinton nine to one. Even the Upper East Side voted for Hillary Clinton, even though they always vote Republican on the Upper East Side in presidential elections because no taxes on capital, but they didn't vote for Donald Trump.

Of all the horrible things about Donald Trump, one of the things that most bothers me, and perhaps you, is that people outside New York think he's a New Yorker. No one in New York thinks he's a New Yorker. It's the most insulting thing to me. I always say, “No one in New York thinks he's a New Yorker.” And no one in New York even thought he was a real estate developer. The truth is that in New York, the real real estate developers looked down on him. Can you imagine a level of moral squalor so profound that real estate agents look down on you? And they were right. It was a shocking thing. Really shocking.

Are you going to ask me if he's going to win this time?

Q: I am afraid to ask you now, Fran.

I don't think so. I really don't think so. The problem, of course, is the electoral college. If it wasn't for the electoral college, there'd never be a Republican president. Twice in my life — which is long, but it's not a thousand years — twice in my life, the presidency was won by someone who lost a popular vote, both times Republicans, George W. Bush and Donald Trump.

In other democracies, the popular vote is called “the vote.” The electoral college, both times this happened, people that I know who are non-American say, "What does this mean?" When I explain it, they go, "Oh, so it doesn't work." I go, "No, it works perfectly. It does exactly what it was meant to do." It overweights the rural vote, the Southern vote and that far Western vote. Every state has two senators. Fewer than 600,000 people live in Wyoming; they have two senators. That many people live in my building. My building should have a senator.

It is absolutely not representative. These people represent acreage because when you look at these maps, Wyoming is gigantic. You can't believe it, but there's no one there. It's just empty. That's the way they can win, but otherwise they can't. They couldn't win.

https://www.salon.com/2023/10/17/fran-lebowitz-on-trump-no-one-in-new-
york-thinks-hes-a-new-yorker
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Wednesday, October 18, 2023 6:45 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK




Cope more, bitch.

Trump will be your next President.

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Thursday, October 19, 2023 5:34 AM

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Cope more, bitch.

Trump will be your next President.

Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son. Tell that to your 450-pound brother and Fatso Trump, 6ix. Or your drunk past self.

Study uncovers a nuanced link between obesity rates and support for Donald Trump in 2016

by Eric W. Dolan | October 16, 2023 in Political Psychology

https://www.psypost.org/2023/10/study-uncovers-nuanced-link-between-ob
esity-rates-and-support-for-donald-trump-in-2016-214039


In a study published in the American Journal of Health Behavior, researchers found a nuanced connection between obesity and voting behavior in the 2016 presidential election. Counties with increasing obesity rates initially showed rising support for Donald Trump until a threshold, after which support began to decline. This suggests a complex, non-linear relationship between local obesity prevalence and political voting patterns.

Obesity has become a major public health issue in the United States. The prevalence of obesity has been increasing significantly, and it is associated with various chronic diseases and substantial healthcare costs.

The condition has become a political issue with two predominant standpoints: the “personal-responsibility” perspective and the “environmental” perspective. These perspectives have different policy implications and are associated with different political parties.

While health disparities have been studied as a political outcome, the reverse relationship, i.e., how health behaviors or conditions influence political behavior, has not been extensively explored. Researchers Ruopeng An and Mengmeng Ji aimed to fill this gap in the literature.

To investigate the link between voting behavior during the 2016 presidential election and obesity rates, the researchers retrieved county-level 2016 presidential election data from the New York Times database. This data included the percentage of votes for the Republican Party presidential candidate (Donald Trump), the percentage of votes for the Democratic Party presidential candidate (Hillary Clinton), and the total number of votes in each county.

To ensure the accuracy of their election data, the researchers compared it with data from two other major election datasets maintained by The Guardian and Ballotpedia.org. They found that the state-specific percentage of votes for the Republican and Democratic candidates agreed across all three databases.

Data on county-level prevalence of adult obesity in 2013 were obtained from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)’s County Data Indicators (CDIs). This data was based on the Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System (BRFSS), an annual survey that collects information on health-related behaviors, chronic conditions, and preventive services.

To account for potential influences, they controlled a wide range of county-level sociodemographic factors, such as age groups, racial and ethnic composition, education, income, poverty rates, unemployment, metropolitan status, and total population.

The researchers used a spatial modeling approach called a spatial autoregressive regression (SAR) to examine the relationship between obesity rates and voting patterns. This approach allowed them to account for the spatial clustering of data, which is often seen in political behaviors. They analyzed information from 3,111 U.S. counties, excluding Alaska due to data limitations.

Contrary to previous studies that had suggested a linear relationship between obesity rates and votes for the Republican Party candidate, this research uncovered a non-linear, or more complex, connection.

The study found that as the obesity rate in a county increased from around 12% to approximately 34%, there was a steady rise in votes for the Republican Party presidential candidate. However, this trend plateaued when obesity rates reached about 36.1%.

Beyond this point, as obesity rates continued to rise, the vote margin for the Republican Party candidate started to decline. In simpler terms, there was a turning point – an obesity rate threshold – where further increases in obesity did not lead to more support for the Republican Party.

While this study provides valuable insights, it’s essential to recognize its limitations. The use of county-level data means that the findings don’t offer a direct link between individual obesity and voting behavior. Additionally, the data used for obesity rates was from 2013, which might not perfectly align with the 2016 election year.

The researchers cautioned against drawing causal interpretations from their findings, emphasizing the need for future research to explore the mechanisms underlying the relationship between obesity rates and voting behaviors.

“This study assessed the impact of county-level obesity prevalence on the 2016 presidential election,” the researchers concluded. “A quadratic association between county obesity rate and the vote margin for the Republican Party presidential candidate was identified. The vote margin initially increased with county obesity rate, but after reaching its peak, it started to decline as obesity rate further increased. Findings of this study indicate that disparities in obesity not only may serve as a political outcome, but also as an influence on political behavior. This study is observational and subject to measurement error, confounding, and ecological fallacy.”

“Future research is warranted to replicate the nonlinear association between county obesity rate and the vote margin for the Republican Party presidential candidate identified in this study, elucidate the mechanisms through which the obesity epidemic links to voting behaviors, and track the long-term trend for the relationship between obesity rate and the presidential election.”

The study, “Obesity Prevalence and Voting Behaviors in the 2016 US Presidential Election” https://doi.org/10.5993/AJHB.42.5.2 was published September 2018.

The beautiful feature of America is the freedom to become as fat as you want to be, as drunk as you want, and as lazy or unsuccessful as you please.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Thursday, October 19, 2023 7:07 AM

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Left attacks itself

the islamic vs Jew fights on the streets on NYC and Florida

Socialists are unhappy with Cortez, bartender AOC

AOC backs US funding of Israeli missile defense
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/10/19/zblj-o19.html

Also some Venezuela stuff

AOC slams sanctions against Venezuela and deportation flights
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/06/alexandria-ocasio-cort
ez-us-sanctions-venezuela-deportations

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said US measures to pressure Maduro’s government contribute to exodus of people from that country

AOC decries ‘bigotry and callousness’ of pro-Palestinian rally in New York
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/10/aoc-palestinian-rally-
new-york

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Thursday, October 19, 2023 12:09 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Cope more, bitch.

Trump will be your next President.

Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son. Tell that to your 450-pound brother and Fatso Trump, 6ix. Or your drunk past self.



Awwwwwwww. Somebody's fee fees got hurt?



I'm here for the Democrats eating each other just like I told you they would.

The question isn't whether Trump will be our next President or not anymore. That's already settled.

The real question is will there even be a Democrat party anymore by November of 2024.



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Thursday, October 19, 2023 3:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


How the 2024 Race Is Shaping Up for Trump and Biden in 7 Key States

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/how-the-2024-race-is-shaping-u
p-for-trump-and-biden-in-7-key-states/ar-AA1iv4pR


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Trump is leading Biden in head-to-head races in five of the seven swing states: Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Biden leads in Nevada, and it’s a tie in Michigan.

Making matters worse for Biden: They’re all states he won in 2020, except for North Carolina. All of Trump’s leads are within the margin of error for those states, but his cumulative advantage across the seven swing states is a significant 4-point lead — outside the poll’s 1-point margin of error.



Making matters EVEN WORSE for Biden* is what the article isn't telling you. Joe Biden* was polled as winning by much larger than he actually did in all of those states except for North Carolina in 2020.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/trump-vs-biden-top-battleg
round-states
/

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/trump-vs-bi
den-top-battleground-states-2020-vs-2016
/



You're fucked, dummies.



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Friday, October 20, 2023 3:00 PM

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Texas Republicans backing away from MAGA group that's 'infested' with Hitler fans

Ameeting between white supremacist Nick Fuentes and a prominent Republican donor has blown up into civil war among Texas conservative groups.

The Holocaust-denying Fuentes took an hours-long meeting earlier this month with GOP donor Jonathan Strickland, then-president of the ultraconservative Defend Texas Liberty PAC, and the fallout from that confab exposed growing concerns about extremism within GOP ranks, reported The Daily Beast.

“Among the concerns were a [Young Republicans of Texas] leader who ‘openly affiliates with antisemites’ online, as well as another prominent member who ‘is a public supporter of Adolf Hitler,’” reported Amanda Moore, who went undercover in the MAGA movement for a year.

The Texas Young Republican Federation (TYRF) voted in August to disassociate from the Republican Party of Texas (RPT) over alleged troll actions by RPT chair Matt Rinaldi, and some smaller groups broke away from TYRF and formed the ultra-MAGA Young Republicans of Texas (YRT).

Related video: Conservative PAC leader’s meeting with white supremacist Nick Fuentes leads to condemnations, escalates GOP Texas’s State Republican Executive Committee (SREC) voted last month to partner with the newly former YRT in spite of concerns about neo-Nazis within their ranks, and Texas attorney general Ken Paxton even praised the hard-right group as “the newest generation of Young Republicans" – but the Fuentes meeting with Strickland had raised concerns about GOP leaders in the state.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/texas-republicans-backing-away
-from-maga-group-that-s-infested-with-hitler-fans/ar-AA1izgan?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=c4ac7b25a2124f67a631b815e1e9006f&ei=258




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Friday, October 20, 2023 3:10 PM

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Texas Republicans backing away from MAGA group that's 'infested' with Hitler fans



The media is just trying to fill your mind with nonsense as the Hitler fans on your side including Nanci Pelosi defend Hamas, you dumb fuckin' tool.



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Monday, October 23, 2023 12:06 PM

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The media is just trying to fill your mind with nonsense as the Hitler fans on your side including Nanci Pelosi defend Hamas, you dumb fuckin' tool.

You’re Not Imagining It: Support for Political Violence Is Growing

Donald Trump’s vitriol is having an impact.

“For 30 years, I’ve studied political violence in many different countries around the world—Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan. Now, in the last few years, the United States,” Robert Pape said. He’s a professor of political science and the director of the University of Chicago project on security and threats. I asked him if, even after all these years, he ever finds himself shocked by something a politician might say.

“Almost in every speech from Donald Trump, there are things that will give me pause,” Pape said.

The former president has been fluent in outrageous language well before he ever entered politics. As a first-time candidate in 2016, and then president, Trump was constantly testing the limits of acceptable speech. Trump’s language by itself can be disturbing. But it’s not only the talk that’s raising alarms. We’re seeing an actual spike in acts of political violence taking place in the U.S.

A Reuters investigation from August found that attacks began to go up in 2016, after Trump first got into politics. Some of these incidents never received national media attention — like the Trump supporter in Ohio who killed his neighbor last year because he was a Democrat. Others were unavoidable. The mass shooter in Buffalo who targeted Black shoppers, leaving 10 dead in 2022. The home invasion and violent attack at Nancy Pelosi’s house in San Francisco.

What’s alarming is that, in recent weeks, Trump has cranked up the language to a new, even more incendiary level.

More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/10/donald-trump-violent-rheto
ric-violence-fear-2024.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Monday, October 23, 2023 12:23 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

The media is just trying to fill your mind with nonsense as the Hitler fans on your side including Nanci Pelosi defend Hamas, you dumb fuckin' tool.

You’re Not Imagining It: Support for Political Violence Is Growing

Donald Trump’s vitriol is having an impact.



Uh huh...




Fuck off, tool.

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Monday, October 23, 2023 12:32 PM

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Fuck off, tool.

Every Trumptard uses your trick of blaming Democrats for what the Trumptard did. A Trumptard gets fired? The Trumptard claims it was not because the Trumptard was lazy, dishonest, and undisciplined but because the Boss didn't like him. The Trumptard gets divorced? The Trumptard claims it is not because he cheated on his wife and ignores or beats his children but because his wife doesn't like him, the exemplary husband and father. To be a Trumptard is to be self-deluding.

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Monday, October 23, 2023 12:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


The above is just another very stupid response from a very stupid person.

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Monday, October 23, 2023 2:32 PM

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The above is just another very stupid response from a very stupid person.

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6ix, I was looking at a comic for people who sleep away life, such as yourself: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/sleep

6ix, you are living the story of Narada and Krishna.

For centuries, saints have been criticized for calling this world unreal or Maya. Advaita Vedanta always maintained that when they called the world unreal, it did not mean the world did not exist. It simply meant that your experience of the world was a hallucination because an untrained mind could never look past the predictions created by the brain to see the world as it exists.
https://medium.com/sd-wisdom-at-work/narada-and-the-power-of-maya-9b9f
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6ix, Trump will not be President, but that shouldn't make any difference because his failure to be elected, or his success, won't really make any difference to the life of a Trumptard. Your Trumpy life will not improve until you fix yourself. Trump can't help you and he can't hold you back.

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Monday, October 23, 2023 3:28 PM

THG


Trump, soon...




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Monday, October 23, 2023 3:31 PM

THG


Prediction, Biden wins


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Monday, October 23, 2023 6:31 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Go ahead and make a bet on that, dummy. Maybe you'll win some money.



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Tuesday, October 24, 2023 6:50 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Go ahead and make a bet on that, dummy. Maybe you'll win some money.

I swear that Trumptards do not have different values than Democrats. What Trumptards do have are different hallucinations about reality. Democrats make the same class of mistakes about reality by living in a dream where they can persuade/reward/teach Trumptards to achieve better lives by telling them to stop smoking, eat less, read a library book, etc. That cannot succeed because Trumptards think that Democrats are the only real obstacle to a better life for Trumptards.

I am in the third group which knows as a fact that Trumptards are the only real obstacle to a Trumptard living better. No amount of teaching, rewarding, or persuading will change a Trumptard. If Trumptards would individually fix what is wrong with themselves, they would achieve the American Dream. Since Trumptards aren't introspective about their defective habits, the American Dream will be denied to them, since they have absolute certainty that nothing needs fixing inside their heads. It is always somebody else, usually a Democrat, who needs fixing, never themselves . . .

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Tuesday, October 24, 2023 9:35 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Go ahead and make a bet on that, dummy. Maybe you'll win some money.

I swear that Trumptards do not have different values than Democrats. What Trumptards do have are different hallucinations about reality. Democrats make the same class of mistakes about reality by living in a dream where they can persuade/reward/teach Trumptards to achieve better lives by telling them to stop smoking, eat less, read a library book, etc. That cannot succeed because Trumptards think that Democrats are the only real obstacle to a better life for Trumptards.

I am in the third group which knows as a fact that Trumptards are the only real obstacle to a Trumptard living better. No amount of teaching, rewarding, or persuading will change a Trumptard. If Trumptards would individually fix what is wrong with themselves, they would achieve the American Dream. Since Trumptards aren't introspective about their defective habits, the American Dream will be denied to them, since they have absolute certainty that nothing needs fixing inside their heads. It is always somebody else, usually a Democrat, who needs fixing, never themselves . . .

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Your "teaching" is the brainwashing you got, idiot. There isn't a single thing I could learn from a piece of shit like you.

The fact that you think half the country doesn't have any vices because they vote Democrat is the only thing anybody needs to know about you to know that you're a brainwashed cultist.

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Tuesday, October 24, 2023 1:52 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Your "teaching" is the brainwashing you got, idiot. There isn't a single thing I could learn from a piece of shit like you.

The fact that you think half the country doesn't have any vices because they vote Democrat is the only thing anybody needs to know about you to know that you're a brainwashed cultist.

Does it ever cross your mind that a Trumptard's life is difficult because of their unfortunate personality traits? The more bad traits, the worse will be an American's life, whether D, R, or Independent.

As far as I know, Trumptards can't have that idea in their head for more than a minute before they drive it out with shouts about nothing being their fault, nothing at all. It is all the fault of Democrats and RINOs. So many Americans refuse to acknowledge how much damage they do to themselves. They won't fix anything about themselves. No bad trait needs immediate correction for most Americans and that attitude causes their daily silliness and their long-term failures.

Inside the Feud Between Donald Trump and the Reagan Library

“The legacy of Reagan, fair or unfair, right or wrong, was ‘shining city on a hill’ — upbeat and positive and have a beer with Tip O’Neill,” the adviser to a board member stated. The same person added, “And Trump is Voldemort. He was the opposite. He wanted to burn everything to the ground, attack people.”

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/09/22/ronald-reagan-librar
y-donald-trump-feud-00116983


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Tuesday, October 24, 2023 3:58 PM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SECOND, you post as if you'll live forever. It'll be shock when you realize you're drawing your last few breaths, but by then it'll be too late, for you.


And now, in REAL NEWS

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Tom Emmer Becomes Next House Speaker Nominee


But many day he lacks the 217 votes to become Speaker. Both the Repub and Dem parties are fractured. In fact, even the deep state is fractured. But in the stew that is DC/ Pentagon/ Langley/ thinktankistan/ MIC etc etc, most everyone is ideologically driven, hardly a realist among them.

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Tuesday, October 24, 2023 7:07 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Your "teaching" is the brainwashing you got, idiot. There isn't a single thing I could learn from a piece of shit like you.

The fact that you think half the country doesn't have any vices because they vote Democrat is the only thing anybody needs to know about you to know that you're a brainwashed cultist.

Does it ever cross your mind that a Trumptard's life is difficult



My life is infinitely easier than yours will ever be.

How was work today, honey? Did you remember to take the trash out for your Mom?

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Tuesday, October 24, 2023 8:16 PM

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Jack lives on government handouts. That being the case, he can't possibly own a house.

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Tuesday, October 24, 2023 9:59 PM

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Jack lives on government handouts. That being the case, he can't possibly own a house.



Even if it were true that I was on government handouts, you're wrong, just like you always are.

Equity in your home and your car are not considered assets when government money is calculated. In fact, when government benefits are calculated, they take into consideration both your monthly mortgage payments, your property tax bill and your utility bills to raise your benefits.

This is why you see people walking into grocery stores from their brand new Cadillacs and slapping down that EBT card for a shopping cart full of free food.

Whenever I do work part time, I qualify for EIC come tax time. It's just not much at all because I'm all alone in this house without kids. Otherwise, if I were like some of the single moms I worked with that had 3 and 4 kids, I'd be getting $9,000 to $12,000 per year in EIC instead of $200 to $300.

I live in Indiana. You can't even get food stamps here if you're a single person without kids and you're between 18 and 54 years old.

I just don't spend any money on bullshit and I don't have any big bills because everything I have is owned free and clear. I've spent less than $125 in interest payments my entire life and made 50 times that back on credit cards with tax-free sign-up bonuses and cash back rewards. You've probably made 10 times as much as I have in my life and you have fuck all to show for it.

I get why you can't grasp this though. You're a stupid cash-cow consumer pig, destined to slave away to pay off loans for the rest of your life.

Have fun at work tomorrow bitch.

I'll be napping.



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Wednesday, October 25, 2023 6:42 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, you post as if you'll live forever. It'll be shock when you realize you're drawing your last few breaths, but by then it'll be too late, for you.

You won't understand not being afraid to die, would you? Trumptards are fearful but that is not a good strategy . . . unless you see yourself as a fat rodent in a barn full of thin and hungry cats:

Why Do People Think Crime Is Worse Than It Actually Is?

In 2022, according to F.B.I. numbers, there were 370 violent crimes reported for every 100,000 Americans. Even allowing for some underreporting, this likely means there was less than one violent crime for every 200 people. So the great majority of Americans haven’t been victims lately, or probably ever. https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate
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What this implies is that public views about crime needn’t have much to do with personal experience. They may instead be shaped by impressions people pick up from media, both news and social, and from politicians.

In other words, perceptions about crime are like perceptions about the economy — perhaps more so: They don’t necessarily bear much relationship to reality.

Now, sometimes popular impressions are more or less right. Back in the 1970s and 1980s, when Hollywood was producing vigilante thrillers like “Death Wish” and dystopian sagas like “Escape From New York,” violent crime really was surging.

However, violent crime began falling rapidly in the early 1990s, for reasons that remain unclear. Whatever the source of the good news, there were two remarkable things about this decline. First, it was truly epic; as someone who has lived in New York since 2015 but visited it many times over previous decades, I can attest that the city feels infinitely safer than it did in the bad old days. Second, most Americans didn’t notice.

Donald Trump devoted his 2017 inaugural address to the theme of “American carnage” — a supposed wave of violence sweeping our cities. At the time, actual urban violence was near a generational low point. But his rhetoric nonetheless resonated with many Americans. After all, throughout the epic decline in crime, voters kept telling pollsters that crime was rising nationally (although they were more sanguine about crime in their own areas, about which they may have had more personal knowledge):

And like views about the economy, perceptions about crime have a strong partisan element, with Republicans generally more likely to say that crime is rising, especially when a Democrat is president.

In 2020 and 2021, it briefly looked as if Trump’s dark vision might retroactively be coming true. There was in fact a surge in crime beginning in 2020, especially in murders.

Unlike the somewhat mysterious decline in crime in previous decades, this crime wave wasn’t too hard to explain. The Covid-19 pandemic led to a lot of isolation and disruption, plus a lot of psychological stress, making it plausible that some Americans became disconnected from the social bonds that usually keep most of us law-abiding.

The big question was whether the post-Covid surge in crime would, like the post-Covid surge in inflation, prove transitory. Would crime keep rising, or would it subside back to relatively low levels?

Well, the answer appears to be in, and it’s encouraging. Murders dropped significantly in 2022, and so far seem to be falling even faster this year. Take the example of New York City, which had 319 murders in 2019 — down from 2,262 in 1990! — but saw that total rise to 488 in 2021. If trends this year continue, the number of murders in 2023 will probably be under 400, much of the way back to the low crime rates of the 2010s. https://jasher.substack.com/p/murder-fell-6-percent-in-2022-and

I should acknowledge that while violent crime is clearly on the downswing, some forms of property crime are still running high. Many pharmacies in New York and other cities, concerned about theft, now keep their products locked behind glass, which isn’t scary but is annoying. Still, America is clearly getting safer again, and is much safer than it was two decades ago.

But if history is any guide, most voters won’t believe it. Politicians will run campaigns promising to defend Americans against a terrifying crime wave, even as crime is receding nationwide.

Wait, there’s more. In addition to having false beliefs about trends in crime over time, many Americans have false beliefs about the geography of crime. In particular, Republicans often treat it as an established fact that blue states, and especially cities run by Democrats, have higher crime rates than red states and cities, with New York singled out for special opprobrium. Back in April, the Republican-controlled House Judiciary Committee held a “field hearing” on “victims of violent crime in Manhattan.”

But the reality is that red states have consistently higher homicide rates than blue states. Most big cities are run by Democrats, but those run by Republicans don’t have significantly lower crime. And New York City happens to have remarkably low crime, with a murder rate around half that of Republican-run cities like Miami and Fort Worth. (My guess is that part of the reason for low crime in New York is the city’s large immigrant population — because contrary to another myth, immigrants are relatively law-abiding.) https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/31/briefing/crime.html

Again, however, it’s doubtful whether data, or even the lived experiences of those of us who reside in places many Americans believe to be hellscapes, will change many minds.

So what’s the moral of this story? The good news is that while many feared that America was about to experience a sustained resurgence of crime, at this point we seem to be heading back to the prepandemic normal of fairly low crime. The bad news is that the politics of fear can work, even if there isn’t much basis for those fears.


https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/24/opinion/crime-public-opinion.html

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Wednesday, October 25, 2023 7:01 AM

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Have fun at work tomorrow bitch.

I'll be napping.

Dream about Trumptards running America:

“A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution.” — Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-rebuked-for-call-to-termin
ate-constitution-over-2020-election-results


Former Republican strategist raises alarms about GOP in 'The Conspiracy to End America'



Stuart Stevens has spent the majority of his decades-long career getting Republicans elected to political office. But his latest book is a warning to the country about the current state of the GOP and its threat to America’s democracy. Amna Nawas spoke with Stevens about the book titled, "The Conspiracy to End America: Five Ways My Old Party Is Driving Our Democracy to Autocracy."
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Had you asked me that morning if Republicans would accept defeat if Joe Biden won by over 8 million votes and north of 300 electoral college votes, my answer would have been simple: What else could they do? They wouldn’t like it, but when you walk off the field of the Super Bowl, the score is the score. Endless hours would be spent by the despondent losing fans analyzing what could have been done differently, but none of it would matter. The final scoreboard was never wrong.

I should have known better. Any faint hope I had that the Republican Party might seize on a Trump defeat as an impetus to self-correct was quickly destroyed. I watched Republican senators and congressmen I’d help elect, men and women I knew to be sane and decent, refuse to acknowledge what grade-school children knew to be true: Donald Trump had lost the 2020 race. When I spoke to a few, I heard variations of “We’re just humoring him. What harm can it do?”

Soon their answer would come as they ran for their lives from domestic terrorists their leader had called to action and their complicity had emboldened.


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Wednesday, October 25, 2023 7:05 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, you post as if you'll live forever. It'll be shock when you realize you're drawing your last few breaths, but by then it'll be too late, for you.

You won't understand not being afraid to die, would you? Trumptards are fearful but that is not a good strategy . . . unless you see yourself as a fat rodent in a barn full of thin and hungry cats:



Then Second completely moves his own goalposts again.






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Wednesday, October 25, 2023 11:38 AM

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Trump Scrambles to Return More Than $200 Million in Donor Money as His 'Truth' Network Fails Amid Legal Battles

The litigations stacking up on Donald Trump’s doorstep are starting to have a significant impact on his businesses. Some of his donors and investors are rethinking their commitment and withdrawing initially invested funds.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/trump-scrambles-to-return-mo
re-than-200-million-in-donor-money-as-his-truth-network-fails-amid-legal-battles/ss-AA1iOVnV?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=73d03114dda7428d9742f08d794403ad&ei=63




Oh no trolls, oh no. Too funny...

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Wednesday, October 25, 2023 11:44 AM

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Yep...

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Petition to remove Trump from Minnesota ballot heads to court






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Wednesday, October 25, 2023 12:03 PM

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The Whig Party of the 19th century collapsed in spectacular fashion due to its internal divisions over slavery. Like the Whigs, Republicans today seem divided among those who wish to govern and those who wish merely to make noise. If the Republicans of today remain deadlocked, they will suffer a similar fate. A failure to reach a majority consensus signals the doom of an American political party.

https://www.rawstory.com/house-republican-chaos-2666052999/

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Wednesday, October 25, 2023 12:12 PM

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More Texas counties are trying to prevent people from using roads to get an abortion

Mark Lee Dickson, a Texas pastor who has led the efforts, praised the vote.

"Guys, I long for the day (when), coast to coast, abortion is considered a great moral, social and political wrong and is outlawed in every single state," Dickson told commissioners.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/nation-world/government-politics/texas-a
bortion-travel-ban/article_f27056ab-d7c5-50bb-b66d-4fc75179b349.html


It is another story about Trumptards being enormous assholes.

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Wednesday, October 25, 2023 1:12 PM

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Petition to remove Trump from Minnesota ballot heads to court



Please do it. Don't back off. Make it happen.

Joe Biden* loses 1,000 times out of 1,000 if they strip Trump off the ballot of a single state.

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Wednesday, October 25, 2023 7:40 PM

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Meanwhile, in clown world...

Joe Biden* strips himself off the New Hampshire primary ballot.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-new-hampshire-primary-ballot/

You stupid fuck. You were warned about that months ago. You had plenty of time to avoid this.

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Wednesday, October 25, 2023 7:53 PM

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Wednesday, October 25, 2023 7:58 PM

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Meanwhile, in clown world...

Joe Biden* strips himself off the New Hampshire primary ballot.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-new-hampshire-primary-ballot/

You stupid fuck. You were warned about that months ago. You had plenty of time to avoid this.




Here's the deal, Theodore.

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But the Biden team doesn't seem worried.

Biden campaign manager Julie Chavez Rodriguez wrote in her letter to New Hampshire Democrats, "The president looks forward to having his name on New Hampshire's general election ballot as the nominee of the Democratic Party after officially securing the nomination at the 2024 Democratic National Convention where he will tirelessly campaign to earn every single vote in the Granite State next November.

New Hampshire state Democratic Party Chairman Raymond Buckley tweeted in response to the president's decision, "The reality is that Joe Biden will win the NH FITN Primary in January, win renomination in Chicago and will be re-elected next November."



The Biden* team has nothing to worry about. That's why they didn't give a fuck about this.

Do you even understand how Primaries work, Ted?

For both parties, they work very much like the Electoral College in the General Election does. We the People go out and vote in the primaries, then the parties tell us that our opinion is duly noted and the delegates vote for the nomination.

Those delegates are supposed to vote for the will of the people, but if Democratic Party Chairman Raymond Buckley's tweet above is correct and "Joe Biden* wins the NH First in the Nation Primary in Janurary", they're now put in the position of putting on full display that they don't have to vote along with the will of The People at the ballot because they will go ahead and give the nomination to Joe Biden* even though he wasn't on the NH ballot.

In any event, because Joe Biden* was just itching to make South Carolina the FITN Primary over New Hampshire against all better judgement, he just shot himself in the foot. Now the Legacy Media can't make a big deal when Republicans do the exact same thing for Trump in Minnesota or any other Democrat ran shithole state that tries to take him off the Primary Ballot.


Now, you have nothing at all to gain by stripping Trump from a primary ballot and everything to lose. All that stripping Trump off a primary ballot in a state Trump was never going to win in the first place is going to do is make people in other states go out in force for Trump.


So please. Do it. Stop talking about it and do it.

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Wednesday, October 25, 2023 8:11 PM

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The new Speaker of the House is Rep. Mike Johnson. He says:

Women have abortions after a baby is born
Trump won the 2020 election
Jan. 6th was a "legitimate protest"
Covid was a hoax and vaccines are dangerous
Social Security is a "Ponzi scheme"
Cut Medicare
Climate change is a hoax

https://twitter.com/DarrigoMelanie/status/1717146576597000274

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Wednesday, October 25, 2023 10:59 PM

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The new Speaker of the House is Rep. Mike Johnson. He says:

Women have abortions after a baby is born
Trump won the 2020 election
Jan. 6th was a "legitimate protest"
Covid was a hoax and vaccines are dangerous
Social Security is a "Ponzi scheme"
Cut Medicare
Climate change is a hoax

https://twitter.com/DarrigoMelanie/status/1717146576597000274

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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He's one of your guys. Uniparty trash.

They couldn't give any more money to Ukraine or Israel without a speaker, so I imagine they were threatened by Uniparty RINOs that enough of them were going to defect and vote for Hakeem Jeffries if they didn't all go along with Johnson on this vote because at the end of the day the only thing important to the bought and paid for Uniparty shills on both sides is funding war.

I'm sure there's a deal in place that they're just going to kick him right back out in a few months after the wars are funded and a new budget agreement is reached. This Johnson guy will be a non-issue long before election day.


You can put that in the predictions thread, Jaynez.

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Thursday, October 26, 2023 7:58 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

He's one of your guys. Uniparty trash.

Clarence Thomas never paid for his luxury motor home

In 1999 Supreme Court justice Clarence Thomas bought a luxury motor home for $267,000. It was financed by a loan from his friend Anthony Welters, a health insurance millionaire.

In interviews, Welters said the loan had been "satisfied" in 2008 but declined to say just what that meant. So the Senate Finance Committee subpoenaed him to get the details. It turns out that Thomas was required only to make interest payments on the loan. The New York Times tells the rest of the story:

The principal amount borrowed would come due in a balloon payment on the loan’s maturity date, in December 2004....But in 2004, when the principal came due, Justice Thomas did not make good on his debt, according to records obtained by the committee and cited in their report. Instead, Mr. Welters granted him a 10-year extension, with the same interest-only terms....Then, in late 2008, Mr. Welters simply forgave the balance of the loan, according to the committee’s report.

As usual this has tax implications but isn't necessarily an ethics violation because the Supreme Court has virtually no ethics rules. A Supreme Court justice can essentially accept a gift of half a million dollars¹ and not bother disclosing it.

¹This is adjusted for inflation, naturally.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/25/us/politics/clarence-thomas-rv-loan
-senate-inquiry.html


6ix, every Trumptard I know is a fucking scumbag. Some hide that fact better than others, but if I look, there it is because decent people would not vote for Trump, who also has a long and detailed record of being a scumbag, a record that other scumbags ignore/discount because their personal life is worse or no better than Trump's. Why are Trumptards' lives full of sound and fury? Then I remember that scumbaggery causes their personal dramas.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Thursday, October 26, 2023 9:49 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


He might not be as backward as an islamic but

New House Speaker Mike Johnson is a Bible-Science guy who once funded a Noah's Ark theme park


Atheists at the Creation Museum


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Thursday, October 26, 2023 12:10 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
He might not be as backward as an islamic but

New House Speaker Mike Johnson is a Bible-Science guy who once funded a Noah's Ark theme park



Yeah. I barely know anything about him, but the little I've heard I don't like at all. Sounds like somebody GWB would have approved of.

Like I said before, I don't expect him to be in that seat for very long. But TPTB threatened the GOP members that weren't going to vote for any Uniparty warmongerer that enough of the GOP members were going to vote for Hakeem Jeffries next vote if they didn't play ball and get somebody in there who would approve more funding to Ukraine and Israel immediately and raise that debt ceiling before the government shut down.

Expect Mike Johnson to be booted from that seat by sometime in January at the latest.

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Thursday, October 26, 2023 12:12 PM

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6ix, every Trumptard I know is a fucking scumbag. Some hide that fact better than others, but if I look, there it is because decent people would not vote for Trump, who also has a long and detailed record of being a scumbag, a record that other scumbags ignore/discount because their personal life is worse or no better than Trump's. Why are Trumptards' lives full of sound and fury? Then I remember that scumbaggery causes their personal dramas.



Fuck off, gutter trash.

Nobody cares about the opinions about the biggest asshole in the RWED.

Here's your detailed record:

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=65116

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Friday, October 27, 2023 7:11 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Fuck off, gutter trash.

Nobody cares about the opinions about the biggest asshole in the RWED.

Here's your detailed record:

The new Speaker of the House has a detailed record, too. You probably should look into it. He will attempt to end the programs you depend upon. See your comment from yesterday: "It was a ton of work for my Dad to get that taken care of, and after my dad passes on it's going to be my responsibility to make sure he's taken care of since none of my other brothers are going to do it and the Government is going to spend the rest of his life trying to kick him off of the assistance." - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65794&mid=11829
81#1182981


Until his sudden elevation to speaker, Johnson was a relatively little-known figure. But he did serve for a time as chairman of the Republican Study Committee, a group that devises policy proposals. And now that Johnson has become the face of his party, people really should look at the budget proposal the committee released for 2020 under his chairmanship. https://mikejohnson.house.gov/sites/mikejohnson.house.gov/files/final%
20rsc%20fy%202020%20for%20print.pdf


If you read that proposal carefully, getting past the often mealy-mouthed language, you realize that it calls for the evisceration of the U.S. social safety net — not just programs for the poor, but also policies that form the bedrock of financial stability for the American middle class.

Start with Social Security, where the budget calls for raising the retirement age — already set to rise to 67 — to 69 or 70, with possible further increases as life expectancy rises.

On the surface, this might sound plausible. Until Covid produced a huge drop, average U.S. life expectancy at age 65 was steadily rising over time. But there is a huge and growing gap between the number of years affluent Americans can expect to live and life expectancy for lower-income groups, including not just the poor but also much of the working class. So raising the retirement age would fall hard on less fortunate Americans — precisely the people who depend most on Social Security.

Then there’s Medicare, for which the budget proposes increasing the eligibility age “so it is aligned with the normal retirement age for Social Security and then indexing this age to life expectancy.” Translation: Raise the Medicare age from 65 to 70, then keep raising it.

Wait, there’s more. Most nonelderly Americans receive health insurance through their employers. But this system depends greatly on policies that the study committee proposed eliminating. You see, benefits don’t count as taxable income — but in order to maintain this tax advantage, companies (roughly speaking) must cover all their employees, as opposed to offering benefits only to highly compensated individuals.

The committee budget would eliminate this incentive for broad coverage by limiting the tax deduction for employer benefits and offering the same deduction for insurance purchased by individuals. As a result, some employers would probably just give their top earners cash, which they could use to buy expensive individual plans, while dropping coverage for the rest of their workers.

Oh, and it goes almost without saying that the budget would impose savage cuts — $3 trillion over a decade — on Medicaid, children’s health coverage and subsidies that help lower-income Americans afford insurance under the Affordable Care Act.

How many Americans would lose health insurance under these proposals? Back in 2017 the Congressional Budget Office estimated that Donald Trump’s attempt to repeal Obamacare would cause 23 million Americans to lose coverage. The Republican Study Committee’s proposals are far more draconian and far-reaching, so the losses would presumably be much bigger.

So Mike Johnson is on record advocating policies on retirement, health care and other areas I don’t have space to get into, like food stamps, that would basically end American society as we know it. We would become a vastly crueler and less secure nation, with far more sheer misery.

I think it’s safe to say that these proposals would be hugely unpopular — if voters knew about them. But will they?

Actually, I’d like to see some focus groups asking what Americans think of Johnson’s policy positions. Here’s my guess, based on previous experience: Many voters will simply refuse to believe that prominent Republicans, let alone the speaker of the House, are really advocating such terrible things.

But they are and he is.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/26/opinion/mike-johnson-republican-par
ty.html


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Friday, October 27, 2023 7:18 AM

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The new Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, wants to make America a Christian theocracy

The Speaker of the House represents a movement that is actively seeking to institutionalize the religious beliefs of evangelical Christians into law.

In interviews he has spoken of the fact that “We don’t live in a democracy” we live in a “Biblical republic.” He asserts this was because the founders sought to follow a “biblical admonition”. In the same set of remarks he described democracy derisively as “two wolves and a lamb deciding what is for dinner.”

Thomas Jefferson said he viewed with “solemn reverence that act of the whole of the American people” which established “a wall of separation between church and state.” George Washington approved a treaty that explicitly stated, “The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.” The very First Amendment in America’s Bill of Rights states “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.” The principal author of the Constitution, James Madison, in his treatise, “Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments,” described 15 reasons why the U.S. government must avoid backing any religion.

Men like Johnson and other members of that movement, a group that includes members of the U.S. Supreme Court and important leaders in the GOP like former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, represent one of the threats those who founded this country most feared. They had learned the lessons of centuries of suffering and horror that were imposed upon the world by theocrats who claimed to be the representatives of the Almighty on earth.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/heres-why-mike-johnson-is-more-dangerous
-than-donald-trump


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Friday, October 27, 2023 10:40 AM

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The new Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, wants to make America a Christian theocracy





He also wants to do away with government programs and policies that allow Jack to eat. So he isn't happy.

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