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Thursday, September 9, 2021 1:16 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/massive-foia-release-proves-fauci-funded-wuhan-research-construct-sars-related chimeric virus is one which is made by combining bits of one virus with another. This was explained in great detail by Chris Martenson, who highlighted the insertion very early in the pandemic. DREAMTROVE: Thanks for joining me in crazytown. Yes, this is exactly what I think happened. In Chapel Hill it was called "gain of function" research. It was suspended in 2013, and then resurrected in 2018, though appears to have gone on in the interval anyway. After 2018 it fled to China, with all associated names being involved. SIGNY: I don't live in Crazytown, DREAMTROVE. I live in the real world. DREAMTROVE: Me too, but you called me crazy
Quote:for suggesting the theory of the thing you just posted the evidence to because now that theory is fact. That's what it is like everything is crazy until it's proven
Quote:I strongly suspect though that it's covid, and that all the vaxed are carriers of a bioweapon and the vax is just bioweapon version 2
Thursday, September 9, 2021 10:23 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/massive-foia-release-proves-fauci-funded-wuhan-research-construct-sars-related chimeric virus is one which is made by combining bits of one virus with another. This was explained in great detail by Chris Martenson, who highlighted the insertion very early in the pandemic. DREAMTROVE: Thanks for joining me in crazytown. Yes, this is exactly what I think happened. In Chapel Hill it was called "gain of function" research. It was suspended in 2013, and then resurrected in 2018, though appears to have gone on in the interval anyway. After 2018 it fled to China, with all associated names being involved. SIGNY: I don't live in Crazytown, DREAMTROVE. I live in the real world. DREAMTROVE: Me too, but you called me crazy Nope, that was SIX.
Thursday, September 9, 2021 10:24 AM
Thursday, September 9, 2021 11:22 AM
Thursday, September 9, 2021 8:50 PM
DREAMTROVE
Quote:[]Originally posted by SIGNYM: You weren't here for it, but I've been posting for OVER A YEAR NOW that the virus looked like it had been deliberately altered, and Dr Martenson pointed out the exact insertion over a year ago that made this virus so different from its nearest bat relatives and so efficient at fusing with human cells.
Quote:It just seemed too much of a coincidence that the outbreak started in the same city where the research was being done. So I've had a strong suspicion for a long time that this was not a "natural" crossover; the idea was IMHO hogwash. And when the WHO "investiated" the Wuhan lab(s) and didn't ask for any research documentation, that viertually nailed the case for me. Now, instead of being 99% sure, I'm 100% sure.
Quote:"Gain of function" research can be done for offensive (weapons) purposes, for defensive purposes, or just for plain research. But I never thought that the virus was released on purpose. Why would China shoot itself in the foot? Shit happens. BTW, yes, you DID post that the vaccine was a bioweapon, more than once
Quote:I could dig out a few more quotes if I wanted to take the time. Believe it or not, I take everything you post seriously enough to look into it. But I don't automatically believe everything you post.
Thursday, September 9, 2021 8:52 PM
Thursday, September 9, 2021 9:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: IMHO DREAMTROVE is entirely sincere. He's been PIRATENEWS-ish in the past. But I take what he posts seriously, just like I took PN's, bc sometimes you need someone whose thinking is so far out of the box that they can see what we have literally been trained NOT to see. This is not the fill in the blank that you're looking for We're ALL under that spell. Some of us more than others. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Thursday, September 9, 2021 9:26 PM
JO753
rezident owtsidr
Friday, September 10, 2021 12:47 AM
Friday, September 10, 2021 12:57 AM
Friday, September 10, 2021 1:20 AM
Friday, September 10, 2021 2:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JO753: In the https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067525/ Omega Man, the survivorz hav palid blueish skin, wite hair & pupilz and they are nuts. They eventually die from the jerm warfare "cilli" that usually killed in minits and wiped out nearly everybody, probably ending our current sivilization. Here in this timeline, its 2 seperate pathojenz that are working together to wipe us out. They are both virusez. The 1st virus infects the mind uv the victimz. Like a computer virus it haz no fizikl atributes. It iz made uv malojik* and false information.
Quote: The second iz an airborn virus that findz fertile ground in groups uv peepl infected with the 1st virus. Seperately, they can do plenty uv damaje to sosiety. Together, they can end sivilization.
Quote:* I'm coining a new word 'malojik' for lojik thats enjineered spesificly to harm peepl'z brain function az oppozed to ordinary unintentional natural bad lojik.
Friday, September 10, 2021 10:02 AM
THG
Friday, September 10, 2021 10:18 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Biden demands US companies introduce vaccine mandates https://www.ft.com/content/d9eb2e1f-965f-462c-bfcd-ca4339cb5ca9?segmentId=b385c2ad-87ed-d8ff-aaec-0f8435cd42d9 Fuckin' fascist.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Four years of incorrectly using the word fascist, and dipshit dumbass Democrats don't even recognize an actual fascist at work. I weep for humanity.
Friday, September 10, 2021 10:52 AM
Friday, September 10, 2021 11:03 AM
Quote:“This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated,” he said, “and it’s caused by the fact that despite America having an unprecedented and successful vaccination program, despite the fact that for almost five months free vaccines have been available in 80,000 different locations, we still have nearly 80 million Americans who have failed to get the shot.”
Quote:He scolded the unvaccinated: “Our patience is wearing thin and your refusal has cost all of us.” He dared Republican governors to try and stop him: “If these governors won’t help us beat the pandemic, I’ll use my power as president to get them out of the way.”
Quote:While president-elect, Biden was asked about mandatory vaccinations just weeks after the first successful vaccine trials were announced. “No, I don’t think it should be mandatory. I wouldn’t demand it be mandatory,” he said in December, adding, “But I would do everything in my power — just like I don’t think masks have to be made mandatory nationwide — I will do everything in my power as president of the United States to encourage people to do the right thing.”
Friday, September 10, 2021 11:21 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Meanwhile... Fauchi: Lied.
Friday, September 10, 2021 3:32 PM
Friday, September 10, 2021 4:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: This particular airborne virus is not dangerous enuf to end society.
Quote: It's the unrealistic responses (like prolonged lockdowns and yet *more* disinformation from the M$M AND the reactive alt media) that's doing us in.
Friday, September 10, 2021 4:45 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Friday, September 10, 2021 5:23 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: So here we are 21 TRILLION dollars later, gone with only bad results from all that spending, and oh, let's not forget death and destruction and ongoing costs as a result. We did that to ourselves. We weakened ourselves. And that's only one example of the damage we've done to ourselves as a country.
Friday, September 10, 2021 5:37 PM
Friday, September 10, 2021 5:47 PM
Friday, September 10, 2021 6:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: I've read that before. Since no one can interview bin Laden, and he left no writings behind, and no statements about his secret heart, all thoughts on his intentions are speculation.
Friday, September 10, 2021 6:09 PM
Friday, September 10, 2021 6:37 PM
Quote: prod the United States into bankruptcy.
Quote:The 9/11 attack was intended to “break the fear of this false god and destroy the myth of American invincibility.”
Friday, September 10, 2021 7:02 PM
Quote:SIGNYM: This particular airborne virus is not dangerous enuf to end society. JO753: Too many variablez to say. It coud still mutate to be far dedlier. (The orijinal SARS had a 9% fatality rate!)
Quote: JO753:But it may not need to get dedlier. Az per my theory, the 2 virusez will conspire to bring us down by degrading the connective tissuez uv society. Its happening now with all the trumptard antivax antimask antiany-defensiv-measure ijits helping C19 proliferate. The hospitalz are being overworked. shutdownz are hobbling the economy. returants and liesure companyz are going under. The goverments cant print fake money forever. All C19 haz to do iz keep up this pase and eventually the accumulating damaj will be too much uv a burden and the entire shebang will collapse.
Quote:SIGNY: It's the unrealistic responses (like prolonged lockdowns and yet *more* disinformation from the M$M AND the reactive alt media) that's doing us in. JO753: See?! Even relativly reazonable peepl can float that notion with a strate fase. It only helps the virus! The defensiv action hurts, so you stop, but then the attacker gets to hit harder. Cach-22.
Quote: JO753: If you must hav a 100 pound shield to defend yourself, the attakr only needz to wait till your armz get tired.
Friday, September 10, 2021 7:18 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: You claimed that bin Laden's intent for September 11, 2001 was to Quote: prod the United States into bankruptcy. And then you posted a link that debunked your claim. Quote:The 9/11 attack was intended to “break the fear of this false god and destroy the myth of American invincibility.” Thanks for proving yourself wrong and doing my job for me.
Friday, September 10, 2021 8:15 PM
Friday, September 10, 2021 8:16 PM
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Friday, September 10, 2021 10:11 PM
Friday, September 10, 2021 11:03 PM
Saturday, September 11, 2021 3:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Every country has Covid skeptics, anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers. The United States is hardly the only place where some people are afraid of vaccines, angry at pandemic restrictions, open to wild conspiracy theories, and distrustful of experts. But there's one key reason why the world's wealthiest nation, home to many of the planet's top public health experts, is the red-hot bubbling epicenter of a pandemic that just won't quit.
Quote: The US is one of a few major countries where the people pushing against common-sense measures hold positions of power, where they can shape policy, influence large swaths of the population, and weaponize the pandemic for their own political benefit. (In Brazil, another place where this has happened, President Jair Bolsonaro faces investigations for his pandemic shenanigans and their catastrophic consequences).
Quote: Some in the Republican Party have turned the coronavirus crisis into the vehicle they hope will propel them to new political heights. It's a cynical game. If Biden fails to contain the pandemic, their hope is that they can use that failure to gain control of Congress in the 2022 midterm elections and pave the way for a Republican president in 2024. After Biden revealed his six-step plan against the still raging pandemic,
Quote: which includes vaccines mandates, Fox News slammed him as an "authoritarian," and Republican officials vowed to fight his new mandates in court. It was another battle in their campaign to defeat Biden by undercutting America's public health efforts.
Quote: Evidence of this strategy was visible at the Conservative Political Action Conference in July, when the crowds cheered after a speaker said the US government failed to "sucker" people into getting vaccinated. (Biden wanted to get 70% of the population vaccinated with at least one shot by July 4, a goal the US reached a month later). Imagine that -- they were effectively cheering for the virus.
Quote: Meanwhile, individual politicians are focused on advancing their own careers. It seems people like Florida's Gov. Ron DeSantis, Texas' Gov. Greg Abbott, and others, are trying to outdo each other with measures that defy common sense. One could be forgiven for thinking they want the virus to win.
Quote: Their goal is to try to emerge as the heirs to former President Donald Trump, who pushed against the guidance of public health experts, motivated at least in part, no doubt, by fears of what pandemic restrictions might do to the economy, and hence to his reelection prospects. Trump also urged his followers to take on Democratic governors who were desperately trying to keep hospitals and morgues from overflowing with Covid victims. "LIBERATE MICHIGAN!" and "LIBERATE MINNESOTA!" he tweeted in all caps, among many other inflammatory and harmful exhortations. It seems his would-be heirs took note of the way Trump's bravado appealed to his followers, so now they are taking up the mantle to look tough ...
Saturday, September 11, 2021 6:38 AM
Saturday, September 11, 2021 8:09 AM
Saturday, September 11, 2021 8:33 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Deaths 669,197 + 1, sad and unnecessary. ‘It Took Her So Fast’: 4-Year-Old Texas Preschooler Dies of COVID Within Hours of First Symptoms A Texas preschooler died of COVID-19 this week within hours of a fever first coming on, her family says. Kali Cook, 4, died in her sleep early Tuesday morning, about five hours after she was found to have a fever, her mother Karra Harwood told the Houston Chronicle. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/it-took-her-so-fast-4-year-old-texas-preschooler-dies-of-covid-within-hours-of-first-symptoms/ar-AAOjvUp?ocid=msedgntp
Saturday, September 11, 2021 1:14 PM
Saturday, September 11, 2021 1:25 PM
Quote: SECOND: We sit in the coffee shop and we see someone wearing a mask and we think: Democrat," Brian Keathley said last fall, weeks before he got the virus.
Saturday, September 11, 2021 2:07 PM
Saturday, September 11, 2021 2:25 PM
Quote: For boys 12-15 without medical comorbidities receiving their second mRNA vaccination dose, the rate of CAE is 3.7 to 6.1 times higher than their 120-day COVID-19 hospitalization risk as of August 21, 2021 (7-day hospitalizations 1.5/100k population) and 2.6-4.3-fold higher at times of high weekly hospitalization risk (7-day hospitalizations 2.1/100k), such as during January 2021. For boys 16-17 without medical comorbidities, the rate of CAE is currently 2.1 to 3.5 times higher than their 120-day COVID-19 hospitalization risk, and 1.5 to 2.5 times higher at times of high weekly COVID-19 hospitalization.
Saturday, September 11, 2021 2:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JO753: Virus #1 fertilizing the ground for #2 in action: http:// youtu.be/Aius0vavTEs (i du ho GoPs helping C19) ---------------------------- DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early The real pandemic solution: http://uvpk.net/
Saturday, September 11, 2021 2:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Fuck your vaccine and your fake news, JO.
Quote:Hopefully your dick doesn't fall off.
Saturday, September 11, 2021 2:49 PM
Quote: MSNBC silent as Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid amplify false story on ivermectin overdoses MSNBC is staying silent as two of the network's biggest stars amplified a false story without issuing any sort of mea culpa. Last week, several members of the liberal media nationalized a local report out of Oklahoma that completely spun remarks a doctor made to depict that overdoses of ivermectin have overwhelmed the hospital system so much so that "gunshot victims" aren't able to be treated. Such claims were debunked by the hospital system itself. Rachel Maddow shared the KFOR report to her 10 million Twitter followers using the headline, "Patients overdosing on ivermectin backing up rural Oklahoma hospitals, ambulances" as well as a quote from the article, "'The scariest one I’ve heard of and seen is people coming in with vision loss,' he said." The MSNBC star faced enough backlash from critics for her name to trend on Twitter, but regardless of the uproar, Maddow's tweet remained intact seven days later.
Saturday, September 11, 2021 3:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JO753: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Fuck your vaccine and your fake news, JO. I'v corolated your symtomz with the entire catalog uv dizeezez and it linez up perfectly with only 1. running around spewing infected bile from your mouth. (OK, your typing finger, but but you get the point) Quote:Hopefully your dick doesn't fall off. It did! But then a much bigger wun sprouted in its plase! ---------------------------- DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early The real pandemic solution: http://uvpk.net/
Saturday, September 11, 2021 3:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Here's a thought, JO: Stop watching Rachel Madcow. Don't quote her or link to any of her videos. That will take you a long way to eliminating the disinfo and bad programming infecting your brain.
Saturday, September 11, 2021 3:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Also, note that I said THIS virus. THIS virus is not a society-killer, unless we shoot ourselves in the foot trying to kill it.
Quote: You can't rely on lockdowns forever.
Quote:But we don't NEED a 100-lb shield.
Quote:The infection fatality rate for THIS virus (even the delta version) is somewhere around 0.07% for people younger than 45. https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/11/18/covid-infection-fatality-rates-sex-and-age-15163 So, fighting THIS virus means protecting a vulnerable subgroup, not the entire peopulaiton
Saturday, September 11, 2021 3:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: The US is one of a few major countries where the people pushing against common-sense measures hold positions of power, where they can shape policy, influence large swaths of the population, and weaponize the pandemic for their own political benefit.
Saturday, September 11, 2021 5:11 PM
Quote: SIGNYM: Also, note that I said THIS virus. THIS virus is not a society-killer, unless we shoot ourselves in the foot trying to kill it. JO753: Thats the virus tokking! 'No, dont worry about me. You got money to make. Just a little Bactine and you'll be fine.'
Quote: SIGNY: You can't rely on lockdowns forever. JO753: Thats part uv my point.
Quote:SIGNY: But we don't NEED a 100-lb shield. JO753: Lets say New Zealand'z respons = a 100 pound shield. It worked. If every nation used it, the pandemic woud hav fizzld out in a month. If insted sum uv them put their green vizor accountant in charj and, after crunching the numberz, he desided that a 42.37 pound shield woud be sufficient, MAYBE he'd be rite and thoze countryz coud boast about saving a few billion dollarz. Or he coud hav miscalculated and the entire world woud still be dealing with the pandemic spending trillionz uv dollarz. The bottom line iz that overkill works.
Quote:SIGNY: The infection fatality rate for THIS virus (even the delta version) is somewhere around 0.07% for people younger than 45. https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/11/18/covid-infection-fatality-rates-sex-and-age-15163 So, fighting THIS virus means protecting a vulnerable subgroup, not the entire population JO753: ACHS iz dedicated to a dont overreact stratejy. Its their foundational filosofy! They apply it indiscriminately to everything and alwayz in favor uv $. Therez also plenty uv evidens that they are industry shillz. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Council_on_Science_and_Health And the chart iz outdated. Its frum before the Delta variant became dominant. Your .07% fatality rate iz misleading. Unless you are advocating a global culling program, its better to go by the big picture. 4,616,874/223,851,538 = 2% https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/coronavirus?ocid=bingcoronaviruslinks And its virtually sertain that many nationz, most notably India and Brazil, are grossly under reporting their numbers, both intentionally and kuz they dont hav the ability to acquire accurate info.
Saturday, September 11, 2021 5:23 PM
Quote: I have always said that US policies, internal and external, are not really the result of careful planning as they are the result of various interests/entities using their influence and power to “pull” US policies in the way they want. And since there are A LOT of various interests/entities, especially in important cases, what we see is not a “policy outcome” but only a “sum vector”, an “outcome” which is the sum of all the different pulling and the relative strength of the folks doing that pulling. I believe that this process has only been magnified but by an order of magnitude. What we see today in the US ruling elites is a huge “cover your ass”, “run for your life”, “protect yourself and your future” and even “grab it while you still can” and NOT, repeat, NOT “real” policies. Those who believe in a grand conspiracy fail to realize that what happened in Kabul is not the exception, it is the rule! Kabul was a giant spotlight which finally showed the true face of the US military to the entire planet: not the Tom Clancy kind of patriotic delusional hallucinations or Hollywood, but the “real reality” filmed “on the ground” on cheap but ubiquitous cellphones, by both Afghani and even US/NATO servicemen’s!
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