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Some Covid-19 thoughts
Monday, June 7, 2021 11:20 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Huge fall in vaccinations threatens Biden's vow to jab 70% of adults by July 4th: Target for first shot was missed by TWO MILLION last week - with slowdown driven by South and Midwest
Quote:Biden’s vaccine push fails to gain traction with African Americans
Tuesday, June 8, 2021 12:05 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Fuck lying Fauci and fuck his book of lies. https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/faucis-upcoming-book-scrubbed-amazon-barnes-and-noble-amid-backlash -------------------------------------------------- Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.
Tuesday, June 8, 2021 7:37 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Tuesday, June 8, 2021 10:33 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Trumptards learn they are not essential. Work continues smoothly without the stupid, crazy Trumptards around. Fat and whiny Trump is angry about the unfairness of it all.
Tuesday, June 8, 2021 10:57 AM
Tuesday, June 8, 2021 12:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Oh... and they're going to win that lawsuit. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/20792874-methodist-lawsuit-1 P.S. Houston Methodist is not a nursing home or an assisted living facility. Houston Methodist is in violation of Texas state law.
Tuesday, June 8, 2021 2:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Oh... and they're going to win that lawsuit. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/20792874-methodist-lawsuit-1 P.S. Houston Methodist is not a nursing home or an assisted living facility. Houston Methodist is in violation of Texas state law. The Governor of Texas is full of shit. I don't run a nursing home but I can fire any goddamn employee I want and the Governor can't undo it or force me to pay damages.
Thursday, June 10, 2021 3:04 AM
JO753
rezident owtsidr
Thursday, June 10, 2021 8:19 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Oh... and they're going to win that lawsuit. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/20792874-methodist-lawsuit-1 P.S. Houston Methodist is not a nursing home or an assisted living facility. Houston Methodist is in violation of Texas state law. The Governor of Texas is full of shit. I don't run a nursing home but I can fire any goddamn employee I want and the Governor can't undo it or force me to pay damages. Nope. Not when you've put on the form the reason for the firing was because the employee wouldn't get the Covid shot and state law now says that they can't do that. It's too late for them to pretend that's not why they got fired either. And other places won't be able to do it either and try to hide it when the fired people all come together and realize that they were all fired because of not getting the shot. You lose, Trumptard. (Another example of 6ix's belief that up is down. A Trumptard voted for Trump, but 6ix inverts that definition because he is a nutjob) -------------------------------------------------- Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.
Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:10 AM
Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:13 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JO753: A frend uv mine haz desided to not get vaksinated. The sors uv her info iz Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, a long time antivax activist. I never had 100% confidens in medical siens. It's still at a 'try it & see wut happenz' level. Its likely that our bodyz are too complex to be understood by our natural brainz. It may take AI to reach a level that can be correctly refered to az competent. But my level uv confidens keeps dropping with every pinhed (Ron & Rand Paul), dimwit (Ben Carson) and wakko like Tenpenny that desidez to flaunt their idiosy in the media, usually by chiming in on sum current political/helth issue. And they are uniformly rite wing.
Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:22 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I'm against this vaccination.
Quote:Not interested in your circular logic. The fact is, even if I were ever to change my mind on the Covid deaths, they were insignificant. Meaningless. Almost non-existant. But those numbers aren't real. They just stole the other causes of death for people who were going to die anyways. RIP Flu.
Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I'm against this vaccination.Elsewhere you wrote a reason for not being jabbed by the Covid-19 vaccine, but your reasoning might be wrong if your facts are wrong. You do make some statements of "facts" that aren't factual: Quote:Not interested in your circular logic. The fact is, even if I were ever to change my mind on the Covid deaths, they were insignificant. Meaningless. Almost non-existant. But those numbers aren't real. They just stole the other causes of death for people who were going to die anyways. RIP Flu. http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64392&mid=1135033#1135033 The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Friday, June 11, 2021 8:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: That kind of destroys your narrative that only right wingers refuse to get the covid vaccine.
Friday, June 11, 2021 10:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JO753: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: That kind of destroys your narrative that only right wingers refuse to get the covid vaccine. Thats not my narrativ. After rereading my post, I see it iznt clear. My point iz if theze idiots can get a medical degree, I dont hav any trust in the Dr. title. I'm not tokking about individual idiots not getting vaksinated.
Quote:I'm sure there are Dem idiot doctor/politicianz & media commentatorz, but the majority are GoPs.
Quote:I think most uv the non-politician doctorz hoo are poking their noze in to push antivax and other disinfo are just synical biz ownerz cashing in on the vast herd uv Gullibullz flocking to Trump. Dr. Tenpenny iz selling antivax seminarz for 650$ per person for example.
Quote:Dr Joseph Mercola haz a thriving biz pushing all sorts uv alternativ medisin and bad advise.
Saturday, June 12, 2021 3:26 AM
Saturday, June 12, 2021 8:08 AM
Saturday, June 12, 2021 8:18 AM
Sunday, June 13, 2021 12:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Texas (Pending Legislation): House Bill 1687 would prohibit employment discrimination based on an employee’s COVID-19 vaccination status.
Sunday, June 13, 2021 9:19 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JO753: 6! I forgot to mention they gave me a 10% off coupon after I got the shot.
Sunday, June 13, 2021 2:05 PM
Sunday, June 13, 2021 3:00 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote: JO Its all thanks to Trump. https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7e7p3/far-right-anti-mask-movement-coming-for-republican-governors?utm_source=email&utm_medium=editorial&utm_content=news&utm_campaign=210610 Republican governorz being attacked for pandemic respons. This coud be a self solving situation. If the next pandemic virus haz a much hier fatality rate, GoP voterz and politicianz woud get hit harder than Demz, thus loozing future electionz. Uv course, it coud go bad and lead to the extinction uv the human rase, but I'm trying to stay upbeat and optimistic. 6! I forgot to mention they gave me a 10% off coupon after I got the shot.
Sunday, June 13, 2021 4:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Oh... and they're going to win that lawsuit. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/20792874-methodist-lawsuit-1 https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/557221-texas-governor-to-sign-bill-banning-vaccine-passports https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/healthcare-information-technology/texas-governor-bans-state-some-businesses-from-requiring-vaccine-passports.html P.S. Huston Methodist is not a nursing home or an assisted living facility. Huston Methodist is in violation of Texas state law. -------------------------------------------------- Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.
Sunday, June 13, 2021 5:38 PM
THG
Sunday, June 13, 2021 6:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Oh... and they're going to win that lawsuit. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/20792874-methodist-lawsuit-1 https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/557221-texas-governor-to-sign-bill-banning-vaccine-passports https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/healthcare-information-technology/texas-governor-bans-state-some-businesses-from-requiring-vaccine-passports.html P.S. Huston Methodist is not a nursing home or an assisted living facility. Huston Methodist is in violation of Texas state law. -------------------------------------------------- Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.Case Dismissed. A federal judge has tossed a lawsuit against Houston Methodist over its policy to terminate workers who refuse to get the COVID vaccine, calling it “reprehensible” that plaintiffs compared the requirement to those made under Nazi Germany. www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Judge-tosses-Houston-Methodist-vaccine-mandate-16244629.php The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Deaths 604,852
Sunday, June 13, 2021 7:06 PM
Sunday, June 13, 2021 7:09 PM
Sunday, June 13, 2021 9:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: In other words... New York among the highest death rates. Texas and Florida not that. Discuss. -------------------------------------------------- Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.
Sunday, June 13, 2021 10:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: In other words... New York among the highest death rates. Texas and Florida not that. Discuss. -------------------------------------------------- Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality. Hawaii - which instituted lockdowns early - is the lowest. Shouldn't pick and choose your data ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
Monday, June 14, 2021 1:34 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: You got got man.
Monday, June 14, 2021 1:41 AM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So, to get back to real issues here All viruses are different. Some are airborne. Some are bloodborne. Some are water- and/or food-borne. Some persist on surfaces for long periods of time and can be spread by people touching a surface and then rubbing their eyes. Others are extremely fragile, subject to dryness, sunlight, alcohol etc. Some are wildly effective at infecting people at low levels of innoculum. Others require a massive exposure to infect the next person. Measles is SO infectious that health authorities try to locate anyone who just walked thru a common area: like an airport terminal or a line at Disneyland, for two hours afterwards Covid-19 is clearly airborne. it turns out it's somewhere between the flu/regular cold and measles. I can understand a month long lockdown while gathering information, amassing resources, and deciding what to do. But something failed in the information-gathering and policy-making stages. It was way too politicized, with Fauci hiding his links to the American-funded gain if function research being conducted at the Wuhan lab, reversing himself on masking (first he said masks don't help) in order to preserve N95s for emergency services, the CDC bobbling their test rollout when labs all over the nation were ready to test by alternate procedures, and the instant dismissal of HCQ, vitaD, and ivermectin as prophylaxis/ early treatment because 1) Trump mentioned it and 2) it didn't put money in the pockets of big pharma. Also, the CDC was NOT acting as a central repository of information on infections and small trials of various treatments. Mistakes were made at all levels but I fault the Federal level the most- not Trump- for acting in a hidebound bureaucratic/corrupt manner of keeping secrets, protecting asses, soloing information, not allowing early flexibility in testing/treatment/information-dissemination, protecting the interests of pandemic bondholders and big pharma, and weaponizing the event against Trump/Republicans/ honest voting and in favor of centralized control and Democrats. Even now, with over a year's worth of data under our belts, do we know how some states achieved such a low death rate? Or what happened in the states with huge death rates? Any "lessons learned" for the future? Or will you still be mired in the Punch n Judy show that is the Dem-Republican tribalism? ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
Monday, June 14, 2021 2:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So we have a natural experiment to see how these two approaches fared... Not a drastic difference, as far as I can tell. What did those low-death states do, or what factors were at play, that caused them to be so low? So, is anyone willing to set aside all of the pointless partisan wrangling, look at what really happened, and learn some lessons?
Monday, June 14, 2021 2:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So, to get back to real issues here... I don't know if I've ever heard you mention the miracle that was Trump's Warp Speed.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So, to get back to real issues here...
Quote: Blithering incompetence does not account for consistently finding and taking specific actions to do exactly what is needed to maximize the damage.
Monday, June 14, 2021 3:28 AM
Quote:6IXSTRINGJACK: In other words... New York among the highest death rates. Texas and Florida not that. Discuss. SIGNY: Hawaii - which instituted lockdowns early - is the lowest. Shouldn't pick and choose your data SIX: You seem to forget that the deaths are fake no matter what state they're from. I should have put "deaths" in quotes for you. It's all about narrative. Hawaii would have LOVED to tow the Democrat line and give a ton of deaths, but they have a low population for starters, so people would have noticed a bunch of fake deaths. (There are more than twice as many people in Chicago than the entire state of Hawaii). Plus if they lied and made up a bunch of deaths than nobody would visit and their entire economy would die.
Monday, June 14, 2021 3:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JO753: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So, to get back to real issues here... I don't know if I've ever heard you mention the miracle that was Trump's Warp Speed. I'm gessing that at sum point he wuz made aware uv the huje grift opportunity, plus persuaded that he needed to do sumthing inarguably pozitiv to keep everybody from realizing he wuz activly helping to spred the virus. Quote: Blithering incompetence does not account for consistently finding and taking specific actions to do exactly what is needed to maximize the damage. ---------------------------- DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early The real pandemic solution: http://uvpk.net/
Monday, June 14, 2021 8:27 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:6IXSTRINGJACK: In other words... New York among the highest death rates. Texas and Florida not that. Discuss. SIGNY: Hawaii - which instituted lockdowns early - is the lowest. Shouldn't pick and choose your data SIX: You seem to forget that the deaths are fake no matter what state they're from. I should have put "deaths" in quotes for you. It's all about narrative. Hawaii would have LOVED to tow the Democrat line and give a ton of deaths, but they have a low population for starters, so people would have noticed a bunch of fake deaths. (There are more than twice as many people in Chicago than the entire state of Hawaii). Plus if they lied and made up a bunch of deaths than nobody would visit and their entire economy would die. But then you have another reliably blue state - VERMONT- ALSO one of the lowest. Utah, a red state, also low. Red states with low populations ... Mississipi, Arizona ... that would LOVE to see low numbers ... are in the highest tier. Jeez, SIX, you're not even trying! Stop picking your data to fit the narrative, for god's sake. That's SECONDRATE'S specialty.
Monday, June 14, 2021 8:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JO753: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: You got got man. No. I didnt even no they had the insentiv deal going. I wuz getting sum food at Jewel and asked about their vaks. They sed no appointment needed, so I got it. Then after the 15 minit wait to see if I'd break out in a rash, the farmasist gave me the coupon.
Monday, June 14, 2021 2:34 PM
Quote: Do not “pursue an investigation into the origin of COVID-19 because it would ‘open a can of worms’ if it continued”. This was the instruction given by the US State Department to its investigators over a year ago, as reported by Vanity Fair in a long piece on Lab Leak. State Department investigators were warned against “digging in sensitive places” and repeatedly advised not to open a “Pandora’s box”. What were they afraid of? They were afraid that someone might reveal that the deadly virus was cooked up by Chinese cooks under American guidance. The hands were Chinese, but the voice was that of Uncle Sam (Gen 27:22). In plain words, if the Chinese altered (Gain-of-Function’ed) the natural coronavirus, they did so on the orders of their American partners and according to their instructions. It is even more probable that the Chinese contribution was secondary, for they do not possess the know-how necessary to alter a virus. Whether it was an accidental leak of a bioweapon or the intentional deployment of bioterror (as Ron Unz expounded), in either case the US is the leading actor in the story. President Trump threatened to sue Beijing for ten trillion dollars for the Wuhan lab leak. Good idea! But this princely sum should be charged to Washington (or rather New York with its Wall Street) as well as to Beijing. Actually, we didn’t have to wait until the end of May 2021 for this revelation. The basic facts were covered in the viral videos Plandemic and Plandemic II, released almost a year ago and promptly banned. Here you can watch a condensed (7 minutes), yet very convincing version of these two long videos, published last August. The creators conclude their story with ‘a plague on both your houses’ statement: “The US could say China did it, China could say the US did it. And both were right.” The video (narrated by Dr David E. Martin and released by London real, the company owned by Brian Rose, a Jewish businessman from San Diego, CA, who is closely connected to the City of London) shows that work on Coronavirus began in 1999; the CDC filed a patent application on SARS-CoV in 2004; it was granted in 2007. They kept tampering with the virus for a few years, trying to make it more infectious and more deadly. After gain-of-function research was forbidden by the US government in 2014, it was promptly offshored to Wuhan lab. The research was quietly continued with US grants coming (partly) from the notorious Dr Fauci via the equally notorious Peter Daszak and his EcoHealth Alliance, the beneficiary of $39 million grant from the Pentagon. The Pentagon is a great humanitarian organization known for its love of mankind, right? If they forwarded so much money to Wuhan, they surely had our good in mind. Probably it was out of sheer modesty that they hid the grants, via a web of multiple transactions, passing money from one NGO to another until reaching its final destination in Wuhan. In 2017, the work on weaponising the virus was resumed in the US, while President Trump stopped the grants to Wuhan. The united media and social networks unleashed their ferocious fact-checkers against the video and its conclusion that the Chinese did it on US orders. And for a long time the story disappeared. But now that the Lab Leak story has been unbanned (thanks to Nicholas Wade’s impactful story) we can check the fact-checkers and find them sorely missing actual arguments. Their main reasoning, beside labelling different opinions “debunked” or “discredited”, was based on an article in Lancet that was commissioned and produced under the guidance of the very same Peter Daszak who admitted (in 2016) that he commissioned and funded Chinese scientists to create a ‘Killer Coronavirus’. Thus the debunkers were debunked and the discrediters were discredited. The conclusion that the virus was made by Chinese under US instructions was also reached over a year ago, in April 2020, by Tsarfat, a French-Jewish blogger, who claimed that Ralph S. Baric was the man who weaponised the virus in 2015, “and described without any inhibition how he took what appears to be a natural strain of a bat virus and altered its properties by adding HIV strains (the Spike Protein in question). The original virus that Baric manipulated in his team’s 2015 work was provided by a team of Chinese scientists which claimed its discovery in a 2013 Nature article.” What about suing Dr Baric and Gilead Sciences for some of the billions? Or Facebook for blocking this important information? Or, indeed, Dr Fauci, who covered up for Baric and for Daszak? (Fauci has been declared the sexiest man alive, no more and no less like Henry Kissinger in his time, and probably by the same sort of people. Recently another Fauci, Jacob Fauci, made his appearance in East Jerusalem, where he argued that he intends to steal a Palestinian house because “if I don’t steal it, someone else is going to steal it.” Jacob (or Yaakov) Fauci is a fervent Jewish nationalist settler. Is he a close relative of Tony the Sexiest? I wonder!) The Russians agree with Ron Unz. They think the virus was crafted by US scientists. While Putin avoided answering this question directly, Sergei Glazyev, an adviser to Putin and a minister of the Eurasian Commission, provided the whole script. In his view, …The virus was synthesized in a well-known US laboratory by order of a scientific foundation closely associated with certain structures of the American financial oligarchy, then moved by ethnic Chinese to a Wuhan laboratory and released into the environment there. The purpose of this operation was to destabilize the socio-political situation in the PRC in order to create the prerequisites for a revolutionary situation. It fully fits into the logic of the global hybrid war, unleashed by the American financial oligarchy in order to maintain world domination in the confrontation with the rapidly growing China. The Wuhan institute, says Glazyev, worked closely with a more advanced American laboratory. The Chinese scientists who worked in Wuhan had previously trained and conducted research in the United States. The United States is the only country in the world that has the necessary competencies to create such a virus. The United States is the only major country that has not signed the international convention on bioweapons. The Chinese specialists who worked at the time in the Wuhan laboratory came from the United States, where they conducted experiments on the synthesis of coronavirus using quasi-secret American funds. Glazyev, a leading economist by trade, explained why the people behind creating a novel Coronavirus didn’t mind that it might spread all over the world. They needed to deflate the global financial bubble that had been inflated by the US Federal Reserve, the ECB, the Banks of England and Japan through a decade of quantitative easing. Throughout the decade the volume of the dollar money supply increased fivefold, and the euro increased fourfold. Financial collapse was inevitable. Thanks to the global pandemic, the bubble deflated peacefully and manageably, without any unpleasant excesses. A million or two million dead is reasonable collateral damage in the eyes of the American super-rich. If the 2020 pandemic did not exist, it would have to be invented. And it was invented: back in 2010, the Rockefeller Foundation published the Lock Step report, a scenario for the deployment of a pandemic; all measures of social isolation and violation of the citizens’ civil rights were predicted and actually implemented last year, says Glazyev. I looked up the “fact checkers”. Like Wikipedia, it can be a useful source as long as you are aware that it is a hostile source. It’s like reading a well-sourced Nazi apology for their own atrocities. Not a stupid essay claiming there never were any atrocities, but a clever report full of half-truths. The fact checkers say this report (technically speaking, The Rockefeller Foundation, Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development included a section called Lock Step) has been removed from the Rockefeller Foundation site, but they did find it somehow. And indeed they declared it was …a scenario of authoritarian control in the wake of a hypothetical novel influenza pandemic similar to COVID-19. Lock Step envisions “a world of tighter top-down government control and more authoritarian leadership, with limited innovation and growing citizen pushback,” according to the report. Another excerpt on the “mandatory wearing of face masks” and “body-temperature checks at the entries to communal spaces like train stations and supermarkets” parallels ongoing practices to mitigate the spread of COVID-19. The Lock Step scenario describes a continuation of authoritarian policies after the pandemic “fades”… Despite the eerie similarity to reality ten years later, the Fact Checkers pronounced it fake news, because “The report makes no reference to COVID-19, a vaccine against the disease or plans to introduce a police state during a pandemic.” Well, they are hard to please! Russian Vaccine Russia is living like there is no virus. Last week, there was the International Economic Forum in St Petersburg, SPIEF, probably the biggest international gathering since the beginning of the pandemic anywhere in the world. The US delegation was the biggest of all. They made deals by the hundreds of billions. St Petersburg, definitely the most beautiful and most European of Russian cities, was overflowing with Forum participants and sundry tourists. It is a wonderful time of White Nights, when sun is hardly going down in this city on the Northern 60th parallel like Alaska and the Yukon. Lilac is blossoming now, and the city is full of its sweet and delightful scent. The city was established by Tsar Peter the Great on former Swedish territory in the delta of the Neva River, and it consists of many islands and islets connected by bridges. The Russian Tsars embellished their capital with wonderful palaces and cathedrals, making it into the Venice of the North. The local people are calm, predominantly dark-blonde and blue-eyed; there aren’t many southerners, as there is in Moscow, for the city is not as prosperous as the Russian capital and offers fewer opportunities to those seeking decent wages. However, it is a very pleasant city, with tourist boats sailing its canals and rivers while the sun shines on the golden domes of its churches. It is also a city of great museums, and it is the base for the Baltic Fleet. It is but a short ride away from the Finnish border; though that border is still shut down by the pandemic. There is no outdoor mask mandate, but masks are recommended on public transport, and many people choose to use them. In a few days, St Petersburg will host seven postponed UEFA EURO 2020 matches, and a lot of people are expected, though probably less than they had two years ago- before the pandemic. Russians go through the motions of the global pandemic response: current tests are required for Forum visitors, temperatures are checked; but the fear is gone, and that is a good thing. The Russians decided to allow vaccine tourism: visiting foreigners will be able to get vaccinated with the Russian vaccine for a small sum (for locals it is free). The Russian Sputnik V vaccine is NOT mRNA experimental therapy, and that is a strong selling point. mRNA vaccines have been around for many years, but never have they been used on humans, for they kill ferrets right away. Sputnik V is a traditional vaccine; it is cheap and does not need to be stored at minus 70 Celsius. Its efficacy is over 90 per cent, so it is good stuff, just like the other Russian Covid vaccines. I am not a vaccination fan, but I think Russian vaccines are the safest, if you already decided you want one. But its fate outside Russia depends on the local bureaucracy. In the EU, the licensing authorities took huge bribes from Pfizer (according to Putin at the St Petersburg Economic Forum) and that is the only reason why Sputnik V is not recognized in Europe. Western companies are eager to preserve their market share and want to keep all poachers out. Americans are as generous with bribes as European politicians and experts are keen on graft, no matter if the people of Europe would love to get access to Russian vaccines. “We have only one disagreement with the United States: their desire to hold back our development,” said Putin. Indeed, the refusal of the EU and WHO to recognize the Russian vaccine can be seen, beyond bribes, as more of the standard US policy of hindering development in other countries. (Israel has a similar policy of de-development applied to Gaza). Wherever they come to conquer, they work to keep all other countries (Russia included) limited to supplying raw materials, while the expensive final products are made under US licence, bringing the maximum profit to US corporations. After the fall of the USSR, US advisers to then-president Boris Yeltsin led Russia onto a quick road to de-industrialisation. They envisaged its future as a Gas Pump State. But Russians rejected the idea. They are active, well-educated folks; they like science and technical innovations; they are good workers, probably less diligent than Germans or Swedes, but head and shoulders above Eastern Europe. Putin sees the vaccine as a way to promote modernisation and a new industrialisation of his country. Still, he does not want to force Russians to ‘get a jab’, as they say in England. There are Russian adepts of mandated vaccination, among them Dmitry Medvedev, the former President and Prime Minister, and Sergei Sobyanin, the powerful Moscow City Mayor. Offering vaccines to tourists seems a good way to bypass the EU officials’ reluctance to recognise it. The President of Belarus, Alexander Lukashenko, also offers the Russian vaccine to the citizens of its neighbouring countries. He placed vaxx points at border crossings so that Lithuanians, Poles, Latvians and Ukrainians will be able to come and get vaccinated inexpensively. For Lukashenko, it is a way to endear Belarus to its NATO-leaning neighbours. Perhaps it will work. The old fox is a smart politician, full of tricks, and he may be able to break the blockade NATO is continuously trying to impose on this small nation. However, Russia needs its vaccine to be recognised in Europe; otherwise all cross-border tourism will remain in abeyance for the second year in a row. Switzerland refused to let Russian journalists vaccinated by Sputnik V cover the Putin–Biden summit. This is part and parcel of the many indignities the West unleashed upon disobedient Russia, like banning its national flag and anthem from sport events. Unwillingly, Russians recognise they are at war, a hybrid war, but still a war. In this war, Russia supports the American people against the American authorities. They loudly wonder whether summits make any sense at all. We shall know the answer in a week, but expectations in Russia are very low.
Monday, June 14, 2021 7:11 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Tuesday, June 15, 2021 12:54 AM
Tuesday, June 15, 2021 1:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: In a series of definitive pieces that earned him the 2021 Pulitzer Prize for explanatory reporting, The Atlantic’s Ed Yong anticipated the course of the coronavirus pandemic, clarified its dangers, and illuminated the American government’s disastrous failure to curb it.
Tuesday, June 15, 2021 5:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E32bpsdVoAYafdU If I was going to graph this, I'd do it as a linear regression and calculate the r^2 value. As it is, the most convincing data to me is the upper right-hand quadrant, convincing by its emptiness. The lower left-hand quadrant is also somewhat noticeable by its relatively emptiness, but it's not as dramatic. In all, those 2 quadrants that run counter to expectation (the expectation is: more vaccinations -> fewer cases) account for 17 out of 50 states plus DC. As for 'red states' v 'blue states', if you believe this map, 13 out of 50 are split control. IMAGE REMOVED FOR FORMATTING PURPOSES Combining datasets: blue state red state mixed governance +V = increased vaccinations -V = decreased vaccinations +C = increased cases -C = decreased cases How many states adopted blue state or red state vaccination policies? Do blue state vaccination policies give expected blue state results? Do red state vaccination policies give expected red state results? Blue states are RI +V-C CT +V-C NJ +V-C DE +V-C NY +V-C IL +V-C CA +V-C NM +V-C HI +V-C CO +V+V+C WA +V+C OR +V+C ME +V+C NV -V+C Red states are SC +V-C TN -V-C MS -V-C GA -V-C OH -V-C IA -V-C SD -V-C NE -V-C OK -V-C AK -V-C IN -V+C WV -V+C KY -V+C AL -V+C MO -V+C AR -V+C ND -V+C FL -V+C TX -V+C ID -V+C WY -V+C UT -V+C AZ -V+C Mixed states are MN +V-C PA +V-C VA +V-C NH +V-C MD +V-C MA +V-C VT +V-C WI 0V-C NC -V-C MI -V-C MT -V+C KS -V+C LA -V+C
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